<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Lemon Cakes Investing]]></title><description><![CDATA[I’m nobody and I have nothing to sell. 
Obviously not investment advice. I have no formal finance education.]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hwtq!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png</url><title>Lemon Cakes Investing</title><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Sat, 09 May 2026 08:35:33 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Lemon Cakes Investing]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[lemoncakesinvesting@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[lemoncakesinvesting@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[RV]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[RV]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[lemoncakesinvesting@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[lemoncakesinvesting@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[RV]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Seeking a friend for the end of the world (of software as a viable business, apparently)]]></title><description><![CDATA[Quick thoughts on some potentially durable survivors of the recent "SaaSpocalypse" selloff]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/seeking-a-friend-for-the-end-of-the</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/seeking-a-friend-for-the-end-of-the</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2026 14:17:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EBFq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1dc547d1-7e59-420f-9eca-28507c4d4a46_938x583.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>*This is a compilation and continuation of a series of substack notes I made starting on March 5. I&#8217;ve added some names and details since then to the point where it made more sense to just compile everything into a post. You can use the small nav menu which (at the time of this writing) should be visible at the center-left of this post (when viewed on the Substack site) to skip around directly to the various names covered.</em></p><p>Software has taken a beating YTD on so-called &#8220;SaaSpocalypse&#8221; fears of AI eventually being able to act as a <em>cost-competitive,</em> infinite, and on-demand bespoke app store for whatever need an enterprise may decide to spec for. Now, however, software has started showing strength (or at least a stop to the bleeding) relative to everything else during the volatility of continued US/Iran (and associated shipping &amp; energy) concerns (as well as low correlation). I won&#8217;t try to &#8220;post-dict&#8221; exactly as to why, but it <em>is</em> happening (for now) &#8212;sans the occasional panic in the market each time a new LLM model is released or discussed by the big model labs. On that note, I thought it would be interesting to pick through the rubble of SaaSpocalypse survivors for those names that might be least affected by the concerns of that dip-inducing narrative and (ideally, maybe) even be beneficiaries.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!svkZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13ebeaa0-b1c2-477d-8af0-6010652c47b6_734x402.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!svkZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13ebeaa0-b1c2-477d-8af0-6010652c47b6_734x402.png 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From a simple price action POV, it would appear that software is finding a bottom / general support level; <a href="https://www.google.com/finance/beta/quote/XSW:NYSEARCA?sa=X&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=2ahUKEwia6aOfmo2UAxUTJ0QIHfukIAgQ3ecFKAN6BAgfEAQ&amp;keymoments=false&amp;comparison=SPY%3ANYSEARCA&amp;type=line&amp;window=1Y">https://www.google.com/finance/beta/quote/XSW:NYSEARCA?sa=X&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=2ahUKEwia6aOfmo2UAxUTJ0QIHfukIAgQ3ecFKAN6BAgfEAQ&amp;keymoments=false&amp;comparison=SPY%3ANYSEARCA&amp;type=line&amp;window=1Y</a></figcaption></figure></div><p><em>BTW, when I say &#8220;AI&#8221;, what I mean (and I think what most others mean as well) is LLMs and the current wave of software tools/features that all use LLMs as the reasoning/interpretation engine behind their ability to act and plan/communicate with users, systems, or to themselves or each other for the purpose of completing generalized tasks. (Keep in mind that AI in the sense that was most commonly referred to right before the explosive popularity of ChatGPT and LLMs was really more accurately described as highly-specialized or task-specific implementations of &#8220;machine learning&#8221; techniques (think of statistics-based spam filters or recommendation/ranking systems for email or music streaming services as examples of this latter category)).</em></p><h1>Commentary</h1><p>The tech industry is going through a set of sudden step-function changes all at once. One is upwards in customer expectations &amp; understanding of what is possible and a step-change downward in the speed and cost of code/data production/analysis/aggregation for <em>all</em> incumbents, outside challengers, and <em>de novo</em> developers. By leveraging AI agents, the total number of user seats that customers may need to pay for under traditional seat-based licensing is also declining, though the total amount of &#8220;activity&#8221; may be increasing due to using these agents. Meanwhile, AI is introducing whole new categories of black-box liabilities on all sides (eg. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s43681-026-01042-1">auditability/compliance challenges</a> in environments that require determinism, causal reasoning, explainability, and accountability; LLM hallucinations; and <a href="https://underdefense.com/blog/prompt-injection-real-world-example-from-our-team/">new ways hackers can exploit</a> these systems). What we want to do here, IMO, is determine what is becoming more scarce (or abundant) &#8212;in meaningful magnitude, direction, and de/acceleration&#8212; and determine who actually profits (or is diminished) by it.</p><p>Something I think is interesting is this 2022 graphic (below) of value capture along the aviation industry&#8217;s supply chain. We see that the vast majority of invested capital in the aviation industry &#8212;which comes from investors and lenders who, excluding the government, you would assume are trying to make a profit&#8212; is deployed into subsectors with average returns below their cost of capital. This apparent crowding into negative-value-creation subsectors included the most visible subsectors that come to mind when people typically think of the aviation industry and has persisted into (at least) 2024. I wonder what parallels to this might emerge in hindsight as the AI industry matures.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nvCF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fded84c4d-5c42-4887-920a-054006ec4bbf_614x387.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nvCF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fded84c4d-5c42-4887-920a-054006ec4bbf_614x387.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nvCF!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fded84c4d-5c42-4887-920a-054006ec4bbf_614x387.png 848w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/travel/our-insights/which-aviation-subsectors-are-flying-high-and-which-face-turbulence">https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/travel/our-insights/which-aviation-subsectors-are-flying-high-and-which-face-turbulence</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>I think it makes sense to assume that the story of which parties in the AI ecosystem that ultimately emerge as the ones to capture the most value by the time we get to the &#8220;mature&#8221; era in the adoption S-curve will have many surprises. That is, the &#8220;winning&#8221; subsectors will not be predictable &#8212;they may not yet even all exist&#8212; and I&#8217;m not counting out (certain elements) of the software industry so soon.</p><p>There are many ways the future can play out, so it may be easier and less prone to salience- or availability-bias to simply catalog those sectors that presently have the most constraints imposed on them (or, invertedly, constraints keeping competition out) and have (de)accelerating &#8220;attack surface&#8221; (de)growth. The way I see it, going after the space(s) with the lowest/shrinking attack surface (but perhaps hardest/growing constraints) is a good way to increase the chances of picking winners occupying or soon-to-be occupying true bottlenecks (or at least to help avoid picking the biggest long-term losers).</p><p>Starting with the <em>least</em> attractive (and this will not be a comprehensive list), I put traditional horizontal SaaS businesses. Yes, there are switching costs but the situation is one of customers switching from a general tool to another general tool (apples-to-apples) while LLMs cut dev costs for comps (and cut (re)integration cost for clients thinking of switching), open-source LLMs kill any AI <em>differentiation</em> via the <a href="https://whatllm.org/blog/open-source-vs-proprietary-llms-2025">closing quality gap</a> vs open-source, and the hyperscalers continue to bundle equivalent <em>generalized</em> functionality themselves (eg. Google Calendar + Gmail appointment scheduling integration for a Google Meet video call, perhaps with an attendee connecting from a Pixel phone running the Android OS, to discuss/collaborate on a budget saved to a Google Sheets doc) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>. A bit lower on the vulnerability list, I include the big standalone model labs. Often the most visible players in the ecosystem, they are continuously threatened by the aforementioned open-source quality catch-up and have little switching costs between them. (<em>FD: I have a meaningfully-sized Alphabet position that was accumulated from before the SaaSpocalypse and through the US/Iran volatility</em>).</p><p>Nearer to the very bottom of the competitive vulnerability ranking, I put &#8220;<a href="https://www.datacenters.com/news/powered-land-is-becoming-the-most-valuable-asset-in-data-center-investing">powered land</a>&#8221; owners benefiting from the scarcity of appropriately zoned locations and physical scarcity of available land for such purposes that are also proximate to necessary energy/data generation/transmission infrastructure, yet also far from anti-data center NIMBYism. While not quite as protected along the dimension of hard <em>constraints</em> as the data center infrastructure &amp; land owners, but in this same general safe area along the dimension of <em>competition exposure</em> &#8212;in contrast to the horizontal SaaS companies which I think score poorly on both constraints-hardness <em>and</em> competition&#8212; I also put niche vertical market software (VMS) in the tradition of Constellation Software and Roper Technologies (for reasons I&#8217;ll attempt to cover in this post).</p><p>.</p><p>This post is just a brain dump overview of a few of those beaten up software names that may have good chances to actually retain or strengthen their moats in the long-run as AI/LLM-use continues to develop. Given that it&#8217;s one of the most disfavored sectors of the market right now &#8212;and not for no reason, to be fair&#8212; I think it&#8217;s currently one of the more interesting areas to look at for individual <em>over</em>sold situations (keeping in mind that beaten-down does not <em>necessarily</em> mean <em>over</em>sold).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EBFq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1dc547d1-7e59-420f-9eca-28507c4d4a46_938x583.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EBFq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1dc547d1-7e59-420f-9eca-28507c4d4a46_938x583.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EBFq!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1dc547d1-7e59-420f-9eca-28507c4d4a46_938x583.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EBFq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1dc547d1-7e59-420f-9eca-28507c4d4a46_938x583.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EBFq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1dc547d1-7e59-420f-9eca-28507c4d4a46_938x583.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EBFq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1dc547d1-7e59-420f-9eca-28507c4d4a46_938x583.png" width="938" height="583" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">IMO</figcaption></figure></div><p><em>(FD: I own small amounts of most names here and may add or sell at any time. I don&#8217;t see any need to rush into any position in this space as I doubt there&#8217;s going to be any single major event that de-risks software all at once from the shadow of AI in peoples&#8217; minds any time soon.)</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><p><em>.</em></p><h1>ROP (Roper Technologies)</h1><p>Anyone unfamiliar with the Vertical Market Software can see the overview here (<a href="https://www.deepsailcapital.com/_files/ugd/50dba3_8f765d8366be4a28b9bc97092d44291c.pdf">https://www.deepsailcapital.com/_files/ugd/50dba3_8f765d8366be4a28b9bc97092d44291c.pdf</a>), here (<a href="https://www.colinkeeley.com/blog/vertical-software">https://www.colinkeeley.com/blog/vertical-software</a>), and for a good overview on Roper specifically, the older podcast here (<em>if you watch the video on YouTube, you can use their Gemini Ask feature right below the video player to interrogate the transcript to get an understanding of Roper as well</em>): </p><div id="youtube2-31Z7H9VfzFE" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;31Z7H9VfzFE&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/31Z7H9VfzFE?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Roper today owns high-margin software systems that cater to a <strong>wide range of niche, generally acyclical, industries</strong> in the US such as government contract billing/compliance mgmt, law firm billing/mgmt systems, healthcare IT, childcare &amp; education administration software, North America&#8217;s largest freight/carrier matching network, a church engagement platform, and hardware + software for water utility metering and billing. The cashflows from these decentralized business operations are then used to acquire additional VMS systems for ROP&#8217;s portfolio either as tuck-ins to integrate/enhance existing systems or to branch into new niches. (<em>I think of ROP as an experienced permanent capital VMS &#8220;fund&#8221; through which one can express the software-ain&#8217;t-dead-yet idea. Being part of the S&amp;P500, most brokers also support buying fractional ROP shares, which even further lends to the &#8220;fund&#8221;-like character w/ which one could treat the stock</em>).</p><p>ROP systems are <strong>highly integrated into customer workflows</strong> (in terms of both employee training and systems integration) and hold <strong>valuable historical customer data &#8212;data that can&#8217;t just be scrapped from the internet and fed to open LLMs&#8212;</strong> which makes the systems sticky (especially to the extent that ROP systems additionally function as cross-customer networks, as with the freight matching network of ROP-owned company DAT Freight &amp; Analytics). <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a></p><p>The fact that much of ROP&#8217;s existing segments and M&amp;A targets are <strong>in industries with risky/complex regulatory/compliance validation hurdles</strong> means even more so that <strong>individual businesses will </strong><em><strong>still</strong></em><strong> likely be less inclined to try to bother building their own systems even as AI reduces internal dev costs</strong> (this is a rather overlooked element IMO). This switching cost compounds when coupled with <strong>ROP&#8217;s strategy of being systems-of-record, mission-critical, and low share-of-wallet for customers. </strong>(On the system-of-record point, mgmt. has explicitly stated that <strong>very little of their pricing is thus user/seat-based and so is less vulnerable to agentic AI productivity-per-employee boosts by customers</strong>)<strong>. </strong>These systems also tend to need to be auditable and, most often, fully deterministic which is an inherent problem for LLMs whose outputs are probabilistic even at very low token-selection-variance &#8220;temperatures&#8221;.</p><p>One way we can validate this LLM-resistant stickiness is by observing that ROP&#8217;s weighted average gross retention ratio across their various business units (which measures the percentage of recurring revenue retained from their <em>existing customer base</em> between periods, <em>excluding</em> any gains from price increases, up-selling, or cross-selling to existing base) has <strong>remained steady around 95% gross retention in each year before and after the launch of ChatGPT in 2022 up to today</strong>. (Also keep in mind that the remaining 5% churn here does not <em>necessarily</em> imply that ROP is losing business to competitors as it can also be driven by customers going out of business or total usage of their ROP systems shrinking due to specific factors w/in their industry at any given time). Weighted average <em>net</em> retention (which includes cross/up-selling and expanded use by only <em>existing</em> customers) generally remains above 100%, meaning existing customers spend more YoY (though there are difference between the many products).</p><p><strong>AI may also help ROP accelerate the problem-to-product feedback loops between their own decentralized business units and customers</strong> to further entrench ROP systems into customer processes and increase operational switching costs. <strong>Unlike with the horizontal SaaS players, ROP&#8217;s niche products all require a high degree of domain-specific knowledge</strong> (eg. to engineer for continued regulatory compliance, loopholes, and edge-cases), which is partially why ROP&#8217;s structure is so decentralized. This <strong>compounding bespokness</strong> leads to greater entrenchment; <strong>IMO</strong> <strong>the feedback loop is enhanced by agentic coding to the benefit of </strong><em><strong>incumbents</strong></em><strong> like Roper</strong>. Furthermore, as ROP targets small niche subsectors, the <strong>incentive for new competition to enter the space remains limited (unlike, again, for the horizontal SaaS players) </strong><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>. We can monitor how well ROP can actually monetize direct AI features in their <em>existing</em> software through 2026 vs any potential AI-native/enabled startups.</p><p>It may even be the case that <strong>AI and the lower cost of code could end up helping resolve concerns around the dwindling, high-quality, needle-moving M&amp;A runway for VMS roll-up models such as ROP&#8217;s (to the extent that new entrant do (occasionally) break through).</strong> The company recently shifted from cheap cash-cow targets to growth-at-a-reasonable-price (GARP) M&amp;A as was seen in the higher-than-normal multiples they paid for Procare (day-care mgmt. software) and Subsplash (a church engagement platform) in 2024 and 2025, respectively <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>. IMO, these acquisitions were seen as manifestations/validation of a concern by the market that ROP was running out of good targets under the old strategy (irrespective of mgmt&#8217;s comments on the reasoning for the change) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> and was one of several contributing factors to ROP stock&#8217;s price weakness even before the SaaSpocalypse in late 2025. Agentic coding + growth of the AI industry (and any resulting yet-to-be-formalized-or-invented subsectors/offshoots thereof) ==&gt; <strong>more opportunities for VMS startups to </strong><em><strong>cost-effectively</strong></em><strong> address new niche markets ==&gt; more M&amp;A opportunities for ROP </strong>(while, again, I think ROP retains incumbency advantage in the spaces they <em>already</em> exist in). This benefits ROP in an asymmetrical way iff their <strong>scale, relationships, and reputation (as an acquiree &#8220;</strong><em><strong>home of choice</strong></em><strong>&#8221;) facilitates better M&amp;A deal flow</strong>. This does seem to be the case as mgmt mentioned in the 4Q2025 earnings call that 60% of their recent tuck-in acquisition pipeline was &#8220;<em>either proprietary or founder-driven</em>&#8221;, meaning based on direct private outreach rather then from, say, an open competitive auction.</p><p>Note that ROP is currently trading at its <strong>lowest EV/EBITDA multiple since 2015</strong> (when it initially completed its transition from industrial equipment to software/VMS and changed its name from Roper Industries to Roper Technologies) while <strong>YoY EBITDA growth has remained in the 9-12% range in each quarter since 2023, so you&#8217;re being paid to wait as price has stabilized in the $340-$350 range</strong>. Meanwhile, ROP initiated it&#8217;s first ever buyback program in late 2025 and has brought shares outstanding down 5%, back to around 2017 levels. ROP&#8217;s weighted average buyback cost basis so far is around $366.67/sh.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fSUk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faed3972c-7647-4451-9d8f-74a729e1579e_1086x870.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fSUk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faed3972c-7647-4451-9d8f-74a729e1579e_1086x870.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fSUk!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faed3972c-7647-4451-9d8f-74a729e1579e_1086x870.png 848w, 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The compressed multiple on the higher EBITDA base implies the market is discounting the perpetuity growth rate of those earnings back to what it assumed at the start of ROP&#8217;s transition when they had <em>no track record</em> (unlike now); I suppose this is to reflect the extreme uncertainty around software businesses in the era of AI. IMO, for the reasons covered above, I think ROP will ultimately be beneficiaries &#8212;and we don&#8217;t need to be a hero in terms of sizing here to have a position make a difference in the long-run nor do we need to rush to allocate a full position all at once.</p><p>Aside from the roll-up considerations, these general ideas carry into most of the other software names I cover here&#8230; </p><h1>CCLD (CareCloud)</h1><div class="comment" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.substack.com/&quot;,&quot;commentId&quot;:255598340,&quot;comment&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:255598340,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-05-08T16:22:25.189Z&quot;,&quot;edited_at&quot;:&quot;2026-05-08T19:44:11.874Z&quot;,&quot;body&quot;:&quot;$CCLD (CareCloud)\n\nCCLD fell by around 17-18% after releasing 1Q2026 earnings and having their earnings call today (nearing what I&#8217;d consider a meaningful support level of around $2.40). While not a huge position for me right now, I did just write a post mentioning the stock, so figured it made sense to comment on this.\n\nTLDR: IDK that there&#8217;s anything that was announced or revealed that was a huge deal. Meanwhile structural changes were made that I thought to be interesting / bullish. I could be missing something, but here&#8217;s how I see it&#8230;\n\nOperating income fell 50% due to the costs of integrating their transformative Medsphere (inpatient EHR) acquisition. This was from integration dev R&amp;D that could not be accounted as capex and amortized (for a less extreme effect on the income statement) as well in increased headcount G&amp;A costs from the acquisition. As I see it this is expected (or at least not surprising), temporary, and should come down sooner rather than later as CCLD carries out their explicitly-stated  strategy of rationalizing their M&amp;A targets using their existing offshore workforce and in-house devs (which was a strategy stated before the Medsphere acquisition, not, say, some rationalization they just made up after the fact). If mgmt can&#8217;t show these numbers coming down meaningfully by late 2026 like they are promising &#8212;or can&#8217;t show reasonable improvement next Q&#8212; then I&#8217;ll start being more concerned.\n\nThe company also took on debt of $50MM (rate of SOFR + 300bps). This was done to redeem 100% of their higher-yield (fixed 8.75%) Series B preferred shares, further simplifying CCLD&#8217;s capital structure (after redeeming 80% of the Series A). This new interest liability remains smaller so long as SOFR remains < 5.75% (= 8.75 - 3), it&#8217;s around 3.6% as I write this, so they exchanged one liability for another, but w/ a lower rate and thus have lowered their total WACC. Again, in line with my expectation that they eventually try to sell the company (beyond the $5/sh initial offer they got in 2024). On that note&#8230; \n\nCCLD&#8217;s Chairman, Haq, personally secured this loan with his own stock, so whether one thinks the rollup strategy or implementation thereof is being wisely done or not, mgmt certainly has (increased) skin in the game. In light of this personal risk, the company has granted Haq a warrant to purchase up to 4.3MM shares at a strike of $5/sh. If fully (cashed) exercised just at the strike (for a simple example), that would be a 9.2% dilution (4.3MM/(4.3MM+42.50MM)). If the stock reached the strike and the warrants were exercised and then the price of all the common stock fell in a proportional amount to the dilution, that would be an ending price of $4.54/sh (still 83% higher than current price of, now, $2.48). BTW, I doubt Haq is looking to just breakeven on the warrant for his risk.\n\nThe company also established a $60MM at-the-market (ATM) equity facility. Is it essentially giving the company the ability to issue up to $60MM worth of new shares at any time at whatever the prevailing market price is (or some approximation of it) at any given time for, as mgmt puts it, \&quot;flexible\&quot; purposes. (IRL the company gives a placement notice to their agent that sells the shares (above a specified floor price), agent collects 3%, hands the rest of the proceeds to CCLD). Comments on this: 1] It is indeed something to monitor (but the market is acting like mgmt has already blown up the share count), 2] I assume it is for emergency / opportunity cash as CCLD&#8217;s FCF remains tied up in digesting the Medsphere acquisition, and would note that 3] the Medsphere acquisition was totally funded via CCLD&#8217;s FCF (as the debt that was used was claimed to be a &#8220;flexible just-in-time tool&#8221; for the transaction by mgmt and the fact that they fully paid down that debt w/ FCF by the end of that same year &#8212;just a bit over 3 months after the loan was taken out&#8212; would appear to validate that claim); that is, mgmt did not go ham with debt or dilution for Medsphere, so I&#8217;m willing to believe for now that they don&#8217;t plan on changing that behavior (unless proven otherwise).&quot;,&quot;body_json&quot;:{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;doc&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;schemaVersion&quot;:&quot;v1&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null},&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;$CCLD (CareCloud)&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;CCLD fell by around 17-18% after releasing 1Q2026 earnings and having their earnings call today (nearing what I&#8217;d consider a meaningful support level of around $2.40). While not a huge position for me right now, I did just write a post mentioning the stock, so figured it made sense to comment on this.&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;TLDR&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;: IDK that there&#8217;s anything that was announced or revealed that was a huge deal. Meanwhile structural changes were made that I thought to be interesting / bullish. I could be missing something, but here&#8217;s how I see it&#8230;&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Operating income fell 50%&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; due to the costs of integrating their transformative Medsphere (inpatient EHR) acquisition. This was from &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;integration dev R&amp;D that could not be accounted as capex and amortized&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; (for a less extreme effect on the income statement) as well in &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;increased headcount G&amp;A costs&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; from the acquisition. &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;As I see it this is expected (or at least not surprising), temporary, and should come down sooner rather than later&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; as CCLD carries out their &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;italic&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;explicitly-stated&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;  strategy of rationalizing their M&amp;A targets using their existing offshore workforce and in-house devs (which was a strategy stated &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;italic&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;before&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; the Medsphere acquisition, not, say, some rationalization they just made up after the fact). If mgmt can&#8217;t show these numbers coming down meaningfully by late 2026 like they are promising &#8212;or can&#8217;t show reasonable improvement next Q&#8212; then I&#8217;ll start being more concerned.&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The company also took on debt of $50MM&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; (rate of SOFR + 300bps). This was done to &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;redeem 100% of their higher-yield (fixed 8.75%) Series B&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; preferred shares, further &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;simplifying CCLD&#8217;s capital structure&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; (after redeeming 80% of the Series A). This new interest liability remains smaller so long as SOFR remains < 5.75% (= 8.75 - 3), it&#8217;s around 3.6% as I write this, so they exchanged one liability for another, but w/ a lower rate and thus &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;have lowered their total WACC&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;. Again, &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;in line with my expectation that they eventually try to sell&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; the company (beyond the $5/sh initial offer they got in 2024). On that note&#8230; &quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;CCLD&#8217;s Chairman, Haq, personally secured this loan with his own stock&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;, so whether one thinks the rollup strategy or implementation thereof is being wisely done or not, mgmt certainly has (increased) skin in the game. In light of this personal risk, the company has &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;granted Haq a warrant to &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;italic&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;purchase&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot; up to 4.3MM shares at a strike of $5/sh&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;. If fully (cashed) exercised just at the strike (for a simple example), that would be a 9.2% dilution (4.3MM/(4.3MM+42.50MM)). If the stock reached the strike and the warrants were exercised and then the price of all the common stock fell in a proportional amount to the dilution, that would be &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;an ending price of $4.54/sh (still 83% higher&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; than current price of, now, $2.48). BTW, I doubt Haq is looking to just breakeven on the warrant for his risk.&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;The company also established a $60MM at-the-market (ATM) equity facility&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;. Is it essentially giving the company the ability to issue up to $60MM worth of new shares at any time at whatever the prevailing market price is (or some approximation of it) at any given time for, as mgmt puts it, \&quot;flexible\&quot; purposes. (IRL the company gives a placement notice to their agent that sells the shares (above a specified floor price), agent collects 3%, hands the rest of the proceeds to CCLD). Comments on this: 1] It &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;italic&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;is indeed&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; something to monitor (but the market is acting like mgmt has already blown up the share count), 2] I assume it is for emergency / opportunity cash as CCLD&#8217;s FCF remains tied up in digesting the Medsphere acquisition, and would note that 3] the Medsphere acquisition was totally funded via CCLD&#8217;s FCF (as the debt that was used was claimed to be a &#8220;flexible just-in-time tool&#8221; for the transaction by mgmt and the fact that they fully paid down that debt w/ FCF by the end of that same year &#8212;just a bit over 3 months after the loan was taken out&#8212; would appear to validate that claim); that is, &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;mgmt did not go ham with debt or dilution for Medsphere, so I&#8217;m willing to believe &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;italic&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;for now&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;bold&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot; that they don&#8217;t plan on changing that behavior (unless proven otherwise)&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;.&quot;}]}]},&quot;restacks&quot;:0,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;attachments&quot;:[],&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;user_id&quot;:58613880,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;user_bestseller_tier&quot;:null,&quot;userStatus&quot;:{&quot;bestsellerTier&quot;:null,&quot;subscriberTier&quot;:null,&quot;leaderboard&quot;:null,&quot;vip&quot;:false,&quot;badge&quot;:null,&quot;paidPublicationIds&quot;:[],&quot;subscriber&quot;:null}}}" data-component-name="CommentPlaceholder"></div><p>Niche private practice outpatient EHR (Health Record System, eg. that often-clunky-looking UI you see nurses and doctors writing their notes into when you get a checkup) and integrated RCM (revenue cycle mgmt) clearinghouse biz (ie. clinical billing/reimbursement mgmt services). Note that EHRs must be CEHRT certified under the US HHS to be used by clinics for reimbursement from Federal programs; this is a <strong>very strict and complex certification process for any new (eg. AI/vibe-coded) EHR startup and hospitals are highly unlikely to take chances swapping this existing system-of-record for another, much less for a new entrant</strong>. The EHR system is priced on a per doctor basis, while the RCM business charges a percentage of the revenues collected by the RCM system.</p><p>After simplifying their capital structure (converting 80% the series A preferred shares and lowering the dividend payments for the remaining that could not mandated to convert), paying down their debt, bringing previously-outsourced R&amp;D expenses in-house, settling several long-standing lawsuits, and shifting roles at the exec team, the company is now using their <strong>growing internal FCF (w/out any debt or dilution) for M&amp;A. The company is rolling upstream</strong> and rationalizing similar/smaller EHR/RCM companies that service other private practice and rural hospital systems that are <strong>too small for the bigger EHRs and hospital rollups (which acquire private practices and then move them onto their larger standardized EHRs) to bother directly targeting</strong>. Particularly, CCLD&#8217;s 2H2025 acquisition of Medsphere now brings CCLD&#8217;s EHR capabilities to full-journey <em>inpatient </em>healthcare (vs previously just being limited to outpatient focus); that is, CCLD can now support the full patient journey from outpatient clinics to emergency departments &amp; inpatient hospital beds. CCLD is maintaining the existing EHR systems for customers as they work to integrate them all together under the original CareCloud EHR + centralizing or downsizing acquired RMC operations and using their offshored workforce. <strong>CCLD appears to be cleaning itself up for, IMO, eventual sale at a higher multiple after receiving an <a href="https://prismmarketview.com/carecloud-rejects-unsolicited-takeover-shares-surge-90/">unsolicited bid</a> from a private equity firm in mid 2024</strong> that seems to have lit a fire under the butts of mgmt.</p><p>I&#8217;d note that, as opposed to all other names covered here, CCLD may be particularly affected by ongoing US/Iran conflict since most of their medical bill coding workforce is outsourced to Pakistan, which relies on the &#8212;currently still closed/blockaded&#8212; Strait of Hormuz and Persian Gulf for the vast majority of it oil and gas supplies. On top of that, medical coding (the RCM task of translating a doctor&#8217;s notes on diagnoses, procedures, and supplies from a patient encounter into nationally standardized codes for billing and analytics purposes) is particularly vulnerable to ever-improving LLMs; whether this means that clinics opt to, or find viable vendors to support, doing this job in-house at more attractive rates vs using CCLD&#8217;s RCM services, which I imagine will be equally AI-assisted, is yet to be seen.</p><p>CCLD received an unsolicited takeout offer in May 2024 which they rejected, claiming that the takeout offer did not include any immediate buyout of the Series A preferred shares (these shares did not have the same explicit change-of-control protections as the series B preferreds at the time and would have presumably become a liability for the acquirer to be handled at a later time); mgmt reject the offer based on this disparity in treatment. At the time, the takeout offer was $5/sh for the 16.1MM outstanding common shares and a $25 redemption price of the 1,468,792 series B preferred shares ==&gt; $117.22MM in cash for CCLD (w/ the series A preferreds still attached) ==&gt; ~14x the avg. 2023 &amp; 2024 FCF of $8.5MM (the prior year&#8217;s FCF was lower at $3.8MM, which would imply an even <em>higher</em> multiple, but let&#8217;s assume the buyer was accurately incorporating forward projections as well). While the company now is in better shape than it was in 2024, applying just that <em>same</em> multiple to CCLD&#8217;s higher 2025 FCF, we have a takeout price of ($20.5MM * 14x =) $287MM, which leaves <strong>$5.28 per common share</strong> after covering the $25/sh and (updated) $25.25/sh redemption prices for the remaining unconverted 984,530 series A and 1,511,372 series B preferreds. <em>(From this, one can also do the math to play around with a lower or higher range limit by using, say, just the 2023 FCF number for a higher multiple (~30x) or just the 2024 FCF for a lower multiple (~9x); taking the mid between the 2023-based low and the avg-based multiple for a 12x FCF applied to 2025&#8217;s FCF, we get $4.31/sh for the common).</em></p><p>One last small gripe I have on this idea vs the others here is that it&#8217;s a one-and-done situation; the company cleans up and does a sale. I&#8217;d more ideally like something where I can put money in and just have it compound there over a long time without having to guarantee (even in success mode) that I&#8217;ll have find somewhere else to put it down the road (a nice problem to have, but a problem nonetheless).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kG5Z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b9d18e7-50a5-402e-a1d4-83de20f73b12_1086x870.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kG5Z!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b9d18e7-50a5-402e-a1d4-83de20f73b12_1086x870.png 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"></figcaption></figure></div><h1>AGYS (Agilysys)</h1><p><strong>Resort and casino management VMS</strong> (targeting middle- to upper-end resort operators) that is currently trading at the same valuation as when their near decade-long transformation (starting in 2017 under the current CEO) from computer distributor to pureplay VMS first went EBITDA-positive around 2022 (slightly lower now, even) after SaaS subscription profits started to offset the modernization R&amp;D spend. It would seem their transformation from siloed on-prem software modules to profitable unified hospitality-focused cloud-based SaaS, on a relative time scale, arrived just in time for both a global jet-fuel crisis (via US/Iran/Hormuz conflict) and the LLM-driven SaaSpocalypse.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0O3C!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5921e75d-90de-459b-802a-949c821540d4_1590x522.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0O3C!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5921e75d-90de-459b-802a-949c821540d4_1590x522.png 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">AGYS valuations are high because (rightly or wrongly) they are factoring in the large growth numbers that AGYS has already been hitting since their 2022 inflection. Factoring in these values, AGYS trades at 0.75x EV/EBITDA/growth, 1.37x EV/FCFF/growth, and 1.76x PEG. </figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6GW4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b46aa64-afff-4cd8-b1a0-1efa5d50ac86_1534x499.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6GW4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7b46aa64-afff-4cd8-b1a0-1efa5d50ac86_1534x499.png 424w, 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Note that (like many of ROP&#8217;s system-of-record products) these <strong>modules are not priced based on number of user seats, but based on volume of inventory managed</strong> (eg. number of rooms at a property or number of POS terminals &amp; transactions). <em>(As far as I know, hospitality PMSs like AGYS&#8217;s rGuest et al are not legally required to have any kind of data portability in the same way that exists for, say, EHR systems under the 21st Century Cures Act, so that&#8217;s a nice data lock-in feature vs CCLD)</em>. </p><p>As a testament to the stickiness of AGYS products, their Q3<em>FY</em>2026 earnings call <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> noted that several major customers switched some of their operations to different franchise brand flags, yet refused to switch to those brands&#8217; mandated PMS systems in order to continue using their AGYS products (which are now being strengthened by integrating AI analytics into the existing data systems, eg. for better room/booking/upselling/upgrades mgmt).</p><p>As of <em>calendar</em> 1Q2026, AGYS has completed their pilot roll-out of AGYS installation/integration to replace legacy PMS systems for Marriott International properties across the US and Canada, a major project sales win for AGYS in 2022 that began development in 2023. (Is it crazy to think that luxury/premium hotels in the US and Canada should experience increased demand from travelers seeking safer alternatives to Persian Gulf luxury stays so long as Iran &#8212;now arguably more feather-ruffled than ever&#8212; keeps instability in that entire region elevated)? The project is now entering the full-scale implementation phase and is expected to 3x AGYS&#8217;s installed PMS base over the next several years (all of which is expected to require little/no incremental opex as most of the dev resources of the entire project are already in place from the piloting period) w/ significant financial contribution expected to start flowing to the bottom line by 2027. From this POV, one could maybe argue that AGYS is trading at (50/3=) 15x fwd (post-Marriott-implementation) EBITDA <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a>, not accounting for any properties&#8217; additional use of the more-recently developed or acquired amenities-booking modules like AgilysysReserve or Book4Time that were not even available during the pilot leg of the rollout.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v_Sg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58edbc8f-222f-4b30-a60c-1f611c554637_1086x870.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Again, US casinos and thus CMS systems are subject to strict <em>state-specific</em> regulations. Additionally, TBTC has exposure to casino operators on native american tribal jurisdictions (the company explicitly mentions the Indian Gaming Association Trade Show and the Oklahoma Indian Gaming Association Trade Show as key industry trade shows they prioritize annually to drive sales), which comes with additional and bespoke barriers to entry as well as risks.</p><p>Up until 2020, TBTC was focused on new system sales. Since that time, TBTC&#8217;s lumpy new-system sales appear to have come to a trickle (8 in 2025 vs 29 in 2019) and the company (quite unlike the growth focus at AGYS) now looks to be focusing on extracting more recurring value from it&#8217;s existing installed base of around 115 casino operators and 300 locations via higher-margin and lower-labor upgrade &amp; maintenance projects. This idea is further validated by the recent 2026 transition of roles at the company where founder Chad Hoehne (owning 25.5% of the company) moved from CEO to CTO and the company&#8217;s CFO/COO moved into the CEO role, which to me suggests a re-focusing of the company on internal efficiencies and shareholder returns over growth. (<em>Taking a page from Roper, we could consider TBTC, w/ their 10x EBITDA and EPS multiple, to be more like ROP&#8217;s prior cash-cow type of VMS, whereas AGYS is closer to their newer GARP focus</em>).</p><p>The stock is extremely illiquid, so don&#8217;t expect any reasonably-priced orders to fill anytime soon. Recent insider buying &#8212;for the first time in 5yrs&#8212; has been around the $3.80-$4/sh range (w/ an absolute floor for the stock being around the $3.70 level).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rb0a!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba57e9-c523-4231-8dce-e4878e29dd95_884x424.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rb0a!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba57e9-c523-4231-8dce-e4878e29dd95_884x424.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rb0a!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba57e9-c523-4231-8dce-e4878e29dd95_884x424.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rb0a!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba57e9-c523-4231-8dce-e4878e29dd95_884x424.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rb0a!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba57e9-c523-4231-8dce-e4878e29dd95_884x424.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rb0a!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba57e9-c523-4231-8dce-e4878e29dd95_884x424.png" width="884" height="424" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/17ba57e9-c523-4231-8dce-e4878e29dd95_884x424.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:424,&quot;width&quot;:884,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:93441,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/190057641?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba57e9-c523-4231-8dce-e4878e29dd95_884x424.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rb0a!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba57e9-c523-4231-8dce-e4878e29dd95_884x424.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rb0a!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba57e9-c523-4231-8dce-e4878e29dd95_884x424.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rb0a!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba57e9-c523-4231-8dce-e4878e29dd95_884x424.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rb0a!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F17ba57e9-c523-4231-8dce-e4878e29dd95_884x424.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>CLBT (Cellebrite)</h1><p>Israeli mobile device penetration &amp; data extraction services/library (Cellebrite Unlock and Inseyets) + integrated <strong>digital evidence mgmt, (Pathfinder) ML analytics, and custody/case mgmt VMS</strong> (Guardian Forensics cloud SaaS w/ data volume-based fees). </p><p>After multiple quarters of disappointing Federal revenue growth and CIFUS-stalled Corellium acquisition (pentesting R&amp;D platform), the <strong>company is now showing early inflection signs</strong> and is in the process of integrating Corellium into operations, launching the Guardian <em>Investigate</em> AI/ML module (similar to Palintir&#8217;s Gotham for storing, analyzing, and synthesizing <em>all</em> forms of digital evidence into court-admissible content), and approaching the tail end of FedRAMP High-level authorization to operate (ATO) certification which will open up greater Federal-level use/marketing TAM for CLBT&#8217;s Guardian suite <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a>. This certification was previously delayed &#8212;and the cause of some pre-SaaSpocalypse price volatility&#8212; in early 2025 due to DOGE shakeups in the Federal government that delayed the processing of the ATO as well delayed the required agency sponsorship (which eventually came from the DOJ) needed to start moving forward for <a href="https://www.fedramp.gov/marketplace/products/FR2421035110/">Cellebrite Government Cloud</a>. <strong>CLBT mgmt has already signaled that a large Federal deal is awaiting once the FedRAMP ATO is approved</strong>. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a></p><p>AI may get better and better at cracking mobile phones (though it also means the phone makers will get better at hardening them), but it won&#8217;t &#8212;by the fact of the probabilistic/stochastic way it is trained / generates outputs&#8212; be able to supply the <strong>court-admissible deterministic chain-of-custody audit and analytics data</strong> that CLBT systems specialize in providing nor can AI or synthetic data generation techniques replace the <strong>valuable corpus of </strong><em><strong>real</strong></em><strong> case evidence data</strong> that CLBT continues to collect (and charge recurring data storage fees on). CBLT is currently trialing AI-powered analytics to automatically comb through existing and incoming data to assist with, for example, finding new connections and leads related to existing cold cases.</p><p>Gross revenue retention for 2024 and 2025 (which, again, does not factor in any up-selling, price increases, or use expansion nor does it do well in capturing any customer-wide headwinds agnostic of CBLT&#8217;s competitiveness vs other substitutes) was around 92%, with net retention remaining above 100% through all years.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fp4U!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F694265b4-e69e-4be1-ac85-54fc15585583_1086x870.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>CASS (Cass Information Systems)</h1><p>Another interesting VMS-<em>like</em> business I&#8217;ve been following (that, unlike the rest of the software world, has been slowly grinding upwards and approaching a technical breakout) is Cass Info. Systems.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R5zG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95dd087f-9a25-4f60-80ce-f70e3adc947e_1086x604.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R5zG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95dd087f-9a25-4f60-80ce-f70e3adc947e_1086x604.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R5zG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95dd087f-9a25-4f60-80ce-f70e3adc947e_1086x604.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R5zG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95dd087f-9a25-4f60-80ce-f70e3adc947e_1086x604.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R5zG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95dd087f-9a25-4f60-80ce-f70e3adc947e_1086x604.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R5zG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95dd087f-9a25-4f60-80ce-f70e3adc947e_1086x604.png" width="1086" height="604" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/95dd087f-9a25-4f60-80ce-f70e3adc947e_1086x604.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:604,&quot;width&quot;:1086,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:103653,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/190057641?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95dd087f-9a25-4f60-80ce-f70e3adc947e_1086x604.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R5zG!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95dd087f-9a25-4f60-80ce-f70e3adc947e_1086x604.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R5zG!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95dd087f-9a25-4f60-80ce-f70e3adc947e_1086x604.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R5zG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95dd087f-9a25-4f60-80ce-f70e3adc947e_1086x604.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R5zG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95dd087f-9a25-4f60-80ce-f70e3adc947e_1086x604.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>CASS is a smallcap <strong>US-focused freight &amp; utilities (energy, waste mgmt, telecom) invoice auditor (fixed price per transaction) and payment processing systems (dollar-volume/value priced, read as: inflation- or tariff-hedged) attached to a 120yr-old niche bank (interest income or think of as interest-rate-hedged) that is also used to facilitate said invoice payments</strong>. Around 40% of the bank interest income is from the funds held for the invoice/infosys customers during the time between invoice processing and payment (supplementing the profits they earn from the audit-to-pay cycle), while the remaining 60% are from loans to private businesses in the company&#8217;s home city of St. Louis, major restaurant franchises, and faith-based ministry mortgages (the latter being a sector that CASS also has exposure to via their TouchPoint church mgmt software). (CASS has also seen <em>tailwinds from AI infrastructure buildout in the form of increased electricity usage and pricing</em> flowing through to its utility invoicing business).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2TiC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8d023c5-37d1-42ce-bb7b-f4cc1f5928b8_1201x434.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2TiC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8d023c5-37d1-42ce-bb7b-f4cc1f5928b8_1201x434.png 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Given the way CASS&#8217;s business operates, I think green line here (total NA freight expenses divided by number of shipments, weighted by Fed interest rate) is a fine proxy for the general <em>direction</em> of CASS&#8217;s fortunes; continued US industrial re-shoring trends would benefit the CFI line here. <a href="https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1VN64">https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1VN64</a> ; <a href="https://www.cassinfo.com/freight-audit-payment/cass-transportation-indexes/cass-freight-index">https://www.cassinfo.com/freight-audit-payment/cass-transportation-indexes/cass-freight-index</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>The company started in St. Louis, Missouri, in 1906 and began specializing in freight invoice auditing and payments as the city became a major trucking hub in the 1950s when the city was identified as a critical node in the Federal planning and construction of the interstate highway system &#8212;before which St.Louis was already a major railroad logistics hub.</p><p>Dividend investors may be interested to hear that Cass Bank <strong>began paying out a dividend during the middle of the Great Depression in 1934 and has since never failed to deliver a regular dividend</strong> &#8212;and actually raised their dividend through the years leading up to, during, and after the 2009 GFC (while their EPS remained generally unaffected as well through this period).</p><p>In handling the invoice auditing and payments for clients, CASS systems gathers data from a diverse &amp; heterogeneous set of sources from various bespoke vendor invoices and customer procurement &amp; sales systems (<em>read as: inconsistent hodgepodge of non-standardized nonsense which is not inherently conducive to LLM processing</em>). This is compiled to audit and assist with decision making against complex shipping contracts and parameters &#8212;that can differ greatly between customers&#8212; and spotting over-charges arising therefrom (<a href="https://www.freightwaves.com/news/freight-invoice-audits-and-why-they-matter">https://www.freightwaves.com/news/freight-invoice-audits-and-why-they-matter</a>). Combined with the banking subsidiary, CASS is able to act as a turnkey system for auditing invoices as well as paying/settling them, <strong>helping to entrench their products into client workflows as well as creating a regulatory barrier that AI-startups will have difficulty overcoming</strong>; there are strict regulations for non-traditional buyer companies attempting to acquire a bank and bank-holding companies are subject to compliance rules from Federal Reserve, FDIC, et al.</p><p>From the 10K: &#8220;<em>The specific payment and information processing services provided to each customer are developed individually to meet each customer&#8217;s requirements, which can vary greatly.</em>&#8221; That is, Cass systems are <strong>embedded in customer workflows and accounting systems in a highly bespoke manner that, again, makes it disruptive for customers to switch</strong> to another invoice auditor (requiring employee retraining and systems re-engineering, eg. to account for any differences in reporting style, format, or resolution from substitutes via what is returned from CASS). CASS pulls/pushes directly to/from customers&#8217; various ERP and RCM systems to get/return invoice/audit/settlement data. Same goes for the utility/facility segment: &#8220;<em>Many of Cass&#8217; services are customized for the ESPs [energy service providers], providing a full-featured solution without any development costs to the ESP.</em>&#8221; </p><p>CASS also acquired a small subscription-based (rather than fixed transaction-based) SaaS invoice auditing company &#8212;that they can also now supplement with their own data corpus and directly handle payments for&#8212; in late 2024 that specializes in <em>ocean and international</em> air fright auditing (vs their domestic US business). <strong>This small contributor could become a valuable segment in due time as/if deglobalization trends continue and supply chain auditing becomes ever more onerous</strong>.</p><p>Note that the bank funding from the non-bank side of the business is NOT held there because, say, there is some lag time between the moment where funds land at Cass Bank and when the goods arrive at the buyer destination like some kind of escrow arrangement. Rather, the lag time is mostly a contracted form of &#8220;payment&#8221; where clients allow CASS to make interest income on their funds before settling the transaction as the bank funds settle at Cass and the audit process takes place. As CASS&#8217;s audit process becomes more efficient with AI and more businesses take greater advantage of instant settlement methods like FedWire/FedNow or perhaps via tokenization, it would seem the actual necessary lag time should decrease and becomes more about clients simply &#8220;paying&#8221; with their own revenue cycle days. This should not be a problem (actual all-in &#8220;costs&#8221; in their various forms will work themselves out) so long as CASS can retain their value proposition in their auditing software (and customers still need to go thru <em>a</em> bank even if they want to use FedNow payments). <strong>That is, so long as they can leverage their data corpus of invoice transactions &amp; audits and AI integration to defend against disintermediation from less-niche invoice auditing competitors, clients have less incentive to disintermediate from CASS on the banking side by settling at their own FedNow-supporting banks</strong>. (CASS also has developed CassPay to act as an integrated platform for general B2B integrated payments).</p><p>From an portfolio exposure POV, I personally &#8212;though this is not totally apples-to-apples in terms of customer type&#8212; compare CASS against the fright-matching network of Landstar Systems (LSTR); both <em><strong>generally</strong></em><strong> being driven by US trucking transaction volumes</strong>. While avoiding making this any longer than it already is, I&#8217;d just say that LSTR&#8217;s business creates more <strong>variable layers of &#8212;largely out-of-their-control&#8212; expenses</strong> between their revenues and operating income lines vs CASS.</p><p>For personal sizing purposes, useful to note that the apparent price floor of $40-$45 has also shown validation via consistent insider buying at those levels.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aCyD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0f35f628-c650-42fc-bc8e-51cb5c0693b1_1045x396.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I include data infrastructure systems like Snowflake et al in this horizontal category as well and can see a future where Google uses agentic coding to (more quickly than has already been happening and w/ less dev-time and opportunity cost to themselves) come up with better and more integrated intermediary tools/interfaces for people/systems to interact with data that is ultimately just stored in GCP cloud storage, BigQuery, CloudSQL et al. If software companies are (still) going to <a href="https://a16z.com/why-software-is-eating-the-world/">eat the world</a>, IMO GOOG is well in the running to be the one that eats the software companies eating the world (w/ a call option on also powering a good deal of the AI companies via their TPU chips (only available on GCP)).</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Expect volatility and don&#8217;t expect to be able to bottom-tick any given name with a big allocation in a single day. Personally, from a portfolio composition POV, I group all of these names into a single value-at-risk bucket/subbucket of &#8220;Software/VMS&#8221; when thinking about total portfolio allocation ratios and have been incrementally, though unevenly, adding to all names with that in mind. </p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note this particular data moat is highly dependent on how exportable/portable customer data in ROP systems really is/remains, though this should at least be relatively less portable than general data from, say, enterprise ticketing systems et al given the bespoke nature of the businesses and processes that ROP products cater to.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Even for ROP&#8217;s recent GARP-focused M&amp;A, their industry TAM estimates remain in the $1bn-$3bn range. For context, this is on the lower-end marketcap size for individual companies included in the S&amp;P 600 smallcap index.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Historically, Roper acquired businesses at multiples of 7x to 8x EBITDA. These more recent acquisitions have were done at multiples in the high teens to low 20s.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In the Q3 2024 earnings call, mgmt characterized the change as a &#8220;modest improvement&#8221; designed to capture more value from their capital deployment by acquiring &#8220;maturing leaders&#8221; that are &#8220;a bit faster-growing&#8221;. So yes, more GARP-like, but whether this change was truly due to a recession in the pipeline of traditional ROP targets or the result of a deliberate and un-forced re-evaluation of their M&amp;A strategy is still uncertain.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This covers calendar Oct 1 &#8211; Dec 31 of 2025, which seems to be the norm for hospitality companies so that their full fiscal year can cover the entirety of the bookings-heavy winter months</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>3x <em>existing</em> rooms under the PMS segment (as opposed to legacy on-prem) ==&gt; 200% <em>additional</em> total room count (note that AGYS does not break down op-prem- vs PMS-managed rooms). PMS <em>revenues</em> likely grow way <em>more</em> than just a pro rata 2x compared to prior per-room revenues since PMS installation sales have tended to be with much greater module/add-on density than the legacy on-prem sales (2 add-ons avg per on-prem install vs 14 avg per PMS install). Even if we assume that the bulk of existing rooms are on-prem managed, all the additional 200% additional rooms are PMS-based, so I make assumption that the <em>additional</em> revenues will be not just 200%, but 300% of <em>existing</em> revenues. I also assume that the on-prem-managed rooms remain stable. Gross margin assumed to remain around the FY2025&#8217;s 78% and also assuming EBITDA margins actually expand from 20% to 25% starting in FY2027. In any case, so long as margins just remain static, <em>that 3x revenue increase falls down to the EBITDA line in pro-rata fashion</em> as mgmt has already mentioned that most opex for continued rollout for the Marriott project is already in place.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>A FedRAMP Authority to Operate (ATO) certification formally validates that a cloud service provider&#8217;s product meets federal security standards, allowing it to store, process, and manage government data. See <a href="https://www.nccgroup.com/what-is-a-fedramp-ato/">https://www.nccgroup.com/what-is-a-fedramp-ato/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;<em>Yes, look, I mean, when you say backlog, I&#8217;ve got to be careful because the backlog would suggest that we have a purchase order. What we do have is we&#8217;ve seen our largest bid go out. We have scoped an initial contract for a large federal agency in their storage requirements, which exceeds 9 petabytes. And that would equate to a very large deal that would be certainly the single biggest transaction we would have ever done.</em>&#8221; ~~~ CLBT 4Q2025 earnings call</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[$TPL (Texas Pacific Land Co.): End of an era and opportunity for change]]></title><description><![CDATA[Some thoughts on how Horizon Kinetics, the company's single largest shareholder, might move forward re. TPL now that they are effectively outsiders once again]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/tpl-texas-pacific-land-co-end-of</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/tpl-texas-pacific-land-co-end-of</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2026 05:10:20 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KoAa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95a194f1-1257-4ea1-bfea-efa3f492d04c_1280x720.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*<em>I initially wrote this as just a quick substack Note, but given how much I&#8217;ve discussed Horizon Kinetics and its related companies in previous posts and the major change &#8212;and market reaction&#8212; that has recently occurred at the particular company covered here, I figured this would be relevant enough to also send out as a Post for the wider set of Post/email-only subscribers that do not also subscribe to notifications for new Notes.</em></p><h1>What happened?</h1><p>On April 7, 2026, Horizon Kinetics &#8212;the largest, and one of the oldest, single owners of TPL&#8212; announced that their founder, Murray Stahl, had passed away (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000119312526147613/hkhc-20260407.htm">https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000119312526147613/hkhc-20260407.htm</a>).</p><blockquote><p><em>We at Horizon Kinetics Holding Corporation announce with deep sorrow that Murray Stahl&#8212;the company&#8217;s Chairman, Chief Executive Officer, and leading light&#8212;passed away suddenly on April 7, 2026.</em></p><p><em>Murray co-founded Horizon Kinetics in 1994. He was instrumental in transforming it into a publicly traded company with a market capitalization of approximately $600 million, an impeccable and debt-free balance sheet, and a portfolio built for the long horizon. Murray&#8217;s dedication, wisdom, and leadership will be felt for generations to come.</em></p><p><em>The entire Horizon Kinetics family extends heartfelt condolences to Murray&#8217;s wife, Teddi, and their children&#8212;and to everyone else who loved him.</em></p><p><em>As we begin the work of preserving and growing Murray&#8217;s legacy, Horizon Kinetics is implementing its succession plan, starting with the appointment of Steven Bregman and Peter Doyle as co-Chief Executive Officers. They will join fellow Horizon Kinetics co-founder Tom Ewing on our newly established Founders&#8217; Committee to oversee a seamless transition of responsibilities.</em></p><p><em>We feel it is our duty and obligation to finish what Murray started. And it is our honor to remain fully committed to delivering that vision for our clients and shareholders.</em></p></blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve read nearly everything he published at HK and have listened to or read nearly every earnings call (and occasional interview) he ever gave and cannot recall detecting anything other than class, humility, intelligence, and patience. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p><p>Very sad to see this happen seemingly so soon.</p><p>.</p><h1>What now?</h1><p>You can read some background on how instrumental Stahl and HK were in implementing more shareholder-aligned, and ultimately more value-accretive, changes at TPL &#8212;and the uphill fight against incumbent mgmt that HK had to get through in order effect those changes&#8212; in the informative post here:</p><div class="embedded-post-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:109127564,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://specialsituationinvesting.substack.com/p/tpls-governance-battle&quot;,&quot;publication_id&quot;:903552,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Special Situation Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CTdd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc51efdb6-fb37-421b-be35-8c9e30f851bc_750x750.png&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;TPL's governance battle (TPL)&quot;,&quot;truncated_body_text&quot;:&quot;Welcome to Special Situation Investing Episode 69.&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2023-03-18T11:00:47.482Z&quot;,&quot;like_count&quot;:13,&quot;comment_count&quot;:10,&quot;bylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:92973763,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Six Bravo&quot;,&quot;handle&quot;:&quot;specialsituationinvesting&quot;,&quot;previous_name&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F610339e0-5649-4906-8442-184bf4ad3f84_1359x1079.jpeg&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:&quot;Two average dudes working to make above average returns.&quot;,&quot;profile_set_up_at&quot;:&quot;2022-05-25T04:28:29.535Z&quot;,&quot;reader_installed_at&quot;:&quot;2024-03-10T05:10:10.257Z&quot;,&quot;publicationUsers&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:845789,&quot;user_id&quot;:92973763,&quot;publication_id&quot;:903552,&quot;role&quot;:&quot;admin&quot;,&quot;public&quot;:true,&quot;is_primary&quot;:true,&quot;publication&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:903552,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Special Situation Investing&quot;,&quot;subdomain&quot;:&quot;specialsituationinvesting&quot;,&quot;custom_domain&quot;:null,&quot;custom_domain_optional&quot;:false,&quot;hero_text&quot;:&quot;Actionable value investment write-ups and insights&quot;,&quot;logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c51efdb6-fb37-421b-be35-8c9e30f851bc_750x750.png&quot;,&quot;author_id&quot;:92973763,&quot;primary_user_id&quot;:92973763,&quot;theme_var_background_pop&quot;:&quot;#BAA049&quot;,&quot;created_at&quot;:&quot;2022-05-25T04:29:50.541Z&quot;,&quot;email_from_name&quot;:null,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;Six Bravo&quot;,&quot;founding_plan_name&quot;:null,&quot;community_enabled&quot;:true,&quot;invite_only&quot;:false,&quot;payments_state&quot;:&quot;disabled&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:null,&quot;explicit&quot;:false,&quot;homepage_type&quot;:null,&quot;is_personal_mode&quot;:false,&quot;logo_url_wide&quot;:null}}],&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null,&quot;status&quot;:{&quot;bestsellerTier&quot;:null,&quot;subscriberTier&quot;:null,&quot;leaderboard&quot;:null,&quot;vip&quot;:false,&quot;badge&quot;:null,&quot;paidPublicationIds&quot;:[],&quot;subscriber&quot;:null}}],&quot;utm_campaign&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;podcast&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="EmbeddedPostToDOM"><a class="embedded-post" native="true" href="https://specialsituationinvesting.substack.com/p/tpls-governance-battle?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_campaign=post_embed&amp;utm_medium=web"><div class="embedded-post-header"><img class="embedded-post-publication-logo" src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CTdd!,w_56,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc51efdb6-fb37-421b-be35-8c9e30f851bc_750x750.png" loading="lazy"><span class="embedded-post-publication-name">Special Situation Investing</span></div><div class="embedded-post-title-wrapper"><div class="embedded-post-title-icon"><svg width="19" height="19" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg">
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</svg></div><span class="embedded-post-cta">Listen now</span></div><div class="embedded-post-meta">3 years ago &#183; 13 likes &#183; 10 comments &#183; Six Bravo</div></a></div><p>With the unfortunate news of Murray Stahl&#8217;s passing, the market reacted by selling off TPL such that the stock dropped just a bit over 15% today (this, despite the very relevant US/Iran ceasefire and Strait of Hormuz reopening looking to be deteriorating just as quickly as it was announced). The situation for TPL is now, IMO, rather interesting.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KoAa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95a194f1-1257-4ea1-bfea-efa3f492d04c_1280x720.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KoAa!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95a194f1-1257-4ea1-bfea-efa3f492d04c_1280x720.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KoAa!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95a194f1-1257-4ea1-bfea-efa3f492d04c_1280x720.jpeg 848w, 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KoAa!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95a194f1-1257-4ea1-bfea-efa3f492d04c_1280x720.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KoAa!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95a194f1-1257-4ea1-bfea-efa3f492d04c_1280x720.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KoAa!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95a194f1-1257-4ea1-bfea-efa3f492d04c_1280x720.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KoAa!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F95a194f1-1257-4ea1-bfea-efa3f492d04c_1280x720.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>HK co-founders Peter Doyle (who managed the HK mutual funds along with Stahl) and Steve Bregman (who is CEO of HK&#8217;s crypto-lab sister company, FRMO Corp., and may be more familiar to HK investors as supervisor and presenter of HK&#8217;s quarterly research commentaries that cover HK&#8217;s views on their investments and the market in general) have been named as HK&#8217;s new co-CEOs. </p><p>Meanwhile, by my reading of the company&#8217;s most recent <a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/1811074/000110465925093848/tm2523293-1_def14a.htm">proxy statement</a>, HK is no longer restrained by the <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1811074/000110465923086408/0001104659-23-086408-index.html">2023 Cooperation Agreement</a> that ultimately resulted from the 2019 proxy battle stalemate between HK et al and TPL mgmt.</p><p><strong>HK no longer has any </strong><em><strong>contractual rights</strong></em><strong> to BoD representation (which they used to have under a 2020 stockholders&#8217; agreement </strong><em><strong>before</strong></em><strong> the 2023 agreement), but is now also no longer </strong><em><strong>obligated</strong></em><strong> to vote their shares in accordance the existing BoD&#8217;s recommendations nor are they restrained by previous standstill agreements </strong>(which only applied so long as &#8220;<em>one of Mr. Stahl or Mr. Oliver [who was also party w/ HK to the initial proxy fight against TPL mgmt, but did not stand for re-election in 2025]</em> <em>remains on the Board</em>&#8221;). That is, as outsiders once again, HK is free to leverage their large TPL share ownership and visibility thereof &#8212;HK now also being freed from the old agreement&#8217;s non-disparagement clause&#8212; to more aggressively advocate for changes/representation at TPL in ways they could not do under the older, nullified arrangements.</p><p>For example, all TPL directors need simple majority vote in order to remain on the BoD. The board then has 90 days to publicly decide whether to actually accept it, though I imagine a BoD decision to retain a member that failed a majority shareholder vote would be a public governance event that proxy advisors will scrutinize intensely.</p><p><strong>W/out HK forced to vote along BoD recommendations, the margins for all dirs. greatly reduces.</strong> Could HK (14.5% ownership) get Stahl&#8217;s estate (5%) + SoftVest (1.7%) + others to coordinate too? That collective bloc would be meaningful leverage over the remaining BoD &#8212;especially when considering existing dissenters per the last annual meeting vote.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u0Pu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85026106-5cff-4eb7-8104-fcef14155832_1256x595.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u0Pu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85026106-5cff-4eb7-8104-fcef14155832_1256x595.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u0Pu!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85026106-5cff-4eb7-8104-fcef14155832_1256x595.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u0Pu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85026106-5cff-4eb7-8104-fcef14155832_1256x595.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u0Pu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85026106-5cff-4eb7-8104-fcef14155832_1256x595.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u0Pu!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85026106-5cff-4eb7-8104-fcef14155832_1256x595.png" width="1046" height="495.51751592356686" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/85026106-5cff-4eb7-8104-fcef14155832_1256x595.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:595,&quot;width&quot;:1256,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1046,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u0Pu!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85026106-5cff-4eb7-8104-fcef14155832_1256x595.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u0Pu!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85026106-5cff-4eb7-8104-fcef14155832_1256x595.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u0Pu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85026106-5cff-4eb7-8104-fcef14155832_1256x595.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u0Pu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F85026106-5cff-4eb7-8104-fcef14155832_1256x595.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(Notice that without HK&#8217;s forced votes, the For votes re. TPL&#8217;s CEO, Donald Cook, drop from 87% to 62%)</em>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Du1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39c5f771-2707-49fc-971b-576ed384aa09_1323x373.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Du1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39c5f771-2707-49fc-971b-576ed384aa09_1323x373.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Du1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39c5f771-2707-49fc-971b-576ed384aa09_1323x373.png 848w, 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Du1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39c5f771-2707-49fc-971b-576ed384aa09_1323x373.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Du1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39c5f771-2707-49fc-971b-576ed384aa09_1323x373.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Du1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39c5f771-2707-49fc-971b-576ed384aa09_1323x373.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Du1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39c5f771-2707-49fc-971b-576ed384aa09_1323x373.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">TPL&#8217;s largest non-insider stock holders, <a href="https://whalewisdom.com/stock/tpl">https://whalewisdom.com/stock/tpl</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>(I&#8217;d certainly cast my own little bit of shares in with HK&#8217;s lot in any proxy contest).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rlnZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5a06f251-7a6f-4981-b289-b3f4750f3db5_1111x1200.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">How my broker&#8217;s proxy voting emails find me</figcaption></figure></div><p>Note that Blackrock and Vanguard (and I assume State Street, and any other large index-based holders of TPL) do not just mechanically vote their shares alongside BoD recommendations (<a href="https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2026/02/27/vanguard-capital-management-proxy-voting-policy-for-u-s-portfolio-companies/">https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2026/02/27/vanguard-capital-management-proxy-voting-policy-for-u-s-portfolio-companies/</a> ; <a href="https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/literature/publication/blackrock-investment-stewardship-benchmark-guidelines-us.pdf">https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/literature/publication/blackrock-investment-stewardship-benchmark-guidelines-us.pdf</a>) and would likely examine any proposals a larger holder like HK were to put forward on a case-by-case basis.</p><p>Blackrock: </p><blockquote><p><em>Contested elections and other special situations are assessed on a case-by-case basis. We evaluate a number of factors, which may include: the qualifications and past performance of the dissident and management candidates; the validity of the concerns identified by the dissident; the viability of both the dissident&#8217;s and management&#8217;s plans; the ownership stake and holding period of the dissident; the likelihood that the dissident&#8217;s strategy will produce the desired change; and whether the dissident represents the best option for enhancing long-term financial value. We will evaluate the actions that the company has taken to limit shareholders&#8217; ability to exercise the right to nominate dissident director candidates, including those actions taken absent the immediate threat of a contested situation. BIS may not support directors (up to and including the full board) where those actions are viewed as egregiously infringing on shareholder rights</em>.</p></blockquote><p>BlackRock also specifically mention situations where they determine that a BoD is taking action to &#8220;<em>unreasonably reduce shareholder rights</em>&#8221; or &#8220;<em>entrench directors</em>&#8221; as significant governance concerns &#8212;such as can easily be construed of the 2023 Cooperation Agreement TPL placed on Stahl/HK et al. I would think (though I don&#8217;t <em>know</em>) that the incumbent TPL mgmt&#8217;s history of using litigation (as in the initial proxy fight when TPL was still a trust) and restrictive cooperation agreements (like the 2023 agreement) would likely be a relevant piece of evidence in BlackRock&#8217;s &#8220;<em>case-by-case</em>&#8221; analysis in a new proxy contest &#8212;and the now-converted C-corp structure and declassified BoD somewhat de-risks voting along with a large dissenter for the big index-based holders here in way that did not exist during the initial 2019 proxy fight (and ensuing non-disparagement period) when TPL was still a trust with a BoT of lifetime tenures.</p><p>Vanguard:</p><blockquote><p><em>Contested director elections will be analyzed case by case. The analysis of proxy contests focuses on three key areas:</em></p><p><em>The case for change at the target company.</em></p><ul><li><p><em>How effectively has the current board overseen the company&#8217;s strategy and execution?</em></p></li><li><p><em>How does the dissident&#8217;s case strengthen the target company&#8217;s long-term shareholder returns?</em></p><p><em>[&#8230;]</em></p></li></ul><p><em>The quality of company governance.</em></p><p><em>       [&#8230;]</em></p><p><em>The quality of the company&#8217;s and dissident&#8217;s board nominees.</em></p><ul><li><p><em>Having made a compelling case for change, do the dissident&#8217;s nominees appear better aligned with long-term shareholder interests relative to the company&#8217;s nominees?</em></p></li></ul></blockquote><p></p><p>(Note that HK &#8212;via Stahl&#8212; was <em>the</em> main reformer at TPL).</p><p><strong>Meanwhile, mgmt just saw the stock drop 15% in a single day (and it&#8217;s obvious that this is due to the absence of Stahl from the BoD) </strong><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a><strong> , which &#8212;thanks to changes instituted by Stahl et al&#8212; is now much more tightly </strong><em><strong>and formulaically</strong></em><strong> linked to their actual compensation. </strong>(BTW, especially relevant while conflict continues between US and Iran, TPL comp also includes a commodity price collar for oil prices that effectively discounts the effects of volatile swings in oil from exec bonus pay, so they are not unduly assigned blame or credit for macro-driven commodity changes beyond their own control)<strong>. </strong>Any material change to this compensation structure would require public disclosure (either as a shareholder proxy voting matter or simple 8K) w/in days of any such decision and would then be a documented piece of evidence that HK can use in any proxy campaign narrative to appeal to, say, Vanguard&#8217;s own &#8220;<em>case for change at the target company</em>&#8221; standards re. &#8220;<em>the quality of company governance.</em>&#8221;</p><p>HK can also use the new amended 2025 proxy access rights to forward new directors:</p><blockquote><p>a group of up to 20 stockholders, who has continuously owned at least 3% of the Company&#8217;s outstanding common stock for at least three consecutive years, may nominate the greater of two or 25% of the number of directors in office as of the last day on which the notice of proxy access nomination</p></blockquote><p>Per Rule 14a-8, HK has until <strong>May 29, 2026</strong> to submit stockholder proposals (eg. like Prop 4 from the 2025 annual meeting) and has the J<strong>uly 9, 2026 and August 8, 2026 window</strong> to provide advance notice for director nominations. While proposals under Rule 14a-8 are non-binding, a BoD that does not not honor a majority vote for even non-binding proposals by shareholders could potentially face scrutiny from proxy advisors.</p><blockquote><p><em>If a prior year&#8217;s shareholder precatory proposal has received the support of a majority of votes cast but the board does not act on the proposal, ISS will consider recommending against directors, committee members or the entire board. If the board does not implement such a proposal, ISS will examine the outreach efforts of the board, any disclosure regarding the subject matter of the proposal, why the proposal was not implemented, the level of support for and opposition to the proposal in past meetings, action taken by the board in response to the vote (including its engagement with shareholders) and the continuation of the underlying issue as a voting item on the ballot</em>. ~~~ <a href="https://www.venable.com/insights/publications/2023/10/responding-to-annual-meeting-vote-results">https://www.venable.com/insights/publications/2023/10/responding-to-annual-meeting-vote-results</a> </p></blockquote><p>Of course, there is also the possibility that HK settles for a new HK seat similar to that which Stahl&#8217;s BoD membership was previously structured under. IMHO, this would be a huge waste of HK&#8217;s existing &amp; meaningful leverage and would be a mistake to take as the default path &#8212;which might indeed look attractive to HK in the interest of, say, expediency or smooth/drama-less continuity as they reel from the unexpected loss of Murray Stahl.</p><p>IMO, HK shouldn&#8217;t waste what leverage they have and they should go for max shareholder alignment; TPL&#8217;s CEO would still be on 100% cash comp under the trust structure were it not for Stahl et al. Hopefully HK was tempered by their courtroom loss in the prior <a href="https://law.justia.com/cases/delaware/court-of-chancery/2023/c-a-no-2022-1066.html">stock-split case</a> and can re-strategize now that the field has been somewhat reset. I can&#8217;t imagine that carrying out Stahl&#8217;s vision that HK stated remaining committed to delivering involves remaining unrepresented or handcuffed at TPL, despite being it&#8217;s largest shareholder.</p><p>The market &#8212;and how it ultimately <em>values / prices</em> TPL&#8212; will continue to be generally unpredictable, but so long as HK does not settle for the same or diminished representation / level of control as originally resulted from the 2019 proxy contest stalemate w/ TPL mgmt, then <em>the underlying business</em> that could emerge on the other side of any increased HK activism &#8212;<em>assuming</em> things play out in their favor (and I think chances of that are good)&#8212; will be one of higher quality than presently exists. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a></p><p>.</p><h1>Liquidity spiral?</h1><p>One thing to also consider (and IDK exactly how much this may end up being a major or simply a minor factor) is the possibility for redemptions and AUM outflows at HK to cause a liquidity spiral for TPL stock (a concern raised in the old Morningstar article <a href="https://www.morningstar.com/funds/fund-shop-bets-ranch-one-stock">here</a>) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> and reduction HK&#8217;s voting power leverage.</p><p>I have the estimated breakdown of HK&#8217;s various fund categories, based on HKHC&#8217;s 2025 annual report, like so&#8230;</p><p>Separately managed accounts (SMAs):  44% of AUM</p><p>Mutual funds: 22%</p><p>Private LPs: 18%</p><p>ETFs: 16%</p><p>Note that while the SMAs, LPs, and mutual funds likely have very high concentrations in TPL (say, 40-50%, if the <a href="https://kineticsfunds.com/funds/">various mutual funds</a> are any indication), the ETFs were explicitly designed with much lower TPL exposure specifically, in part, to help diversify HK away from the TPL concentration &#8212;at most, I&#8217;ve seen a 5% TPL allocation in these ETFs.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>When you get new assets under management, we obviously can&#8217;t buy and we wouldn&#8217;t buy TPL at that allocation. So new assets are diluted. And for example, the Japan ETFs, say what you will about it, positive or negative, doesn&#8217;t have any TPL in it. And similarly speaking, the Blockchain Development Fund has no TPL in it. So as we raise new assets, there are different investment products, they don't have any TPL. So we get diluted [re. HK&#8217;s overall TPL concentration] over time even without selling.</em>&#8221; ~~~ Murray Stahl, HKHC Q3 2025 earnings call</p></blockquote><p>Also, unlike mutual funds, the ETF units are not subject to daily redemptions and small transactions instead happen in an &#8220;echo chamber&#8221; (as Stahl called in the Q1 2025 call) between buyers &amp; sellers on the secondary market, lowering the risk of affecting HK&#8217;s actual AUM; money only enters or leaves these funds itself in large unit increments by institutional authorized participants.</p><p>For the SMAs and private funds, I&#8217;m also not <em>too</em> worried as I assume the SMA clients will be a good bit stickier; the lower limit for an SMA account with HK is <a href="https://adviserinfo.sec.gov/firm/summary/106096">in the millions</a> and it&#8217;s not as if they were not already aware of Stahl&#8217;s age &#8212;though I suppose individuals could also explicitly ask to downsize their TPL positions <em>specifically</em> now that the key man behind that concentration is gone <em>unexpectedly</em>. Note also that the LPs are structured such that dividends and capital gains do not need to be immediately redistributed (ie. the GP does not need to fire sale assets just because clients are panicking &#8212;rightly or wrongly&#8212; at any given moment, think Michael Burry exercising his right to freeze redemptions in The Big Short).</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>The Private Funds are intended for long-term investors and as such, HKAM reserves the right to impose restrictions, as it may deem necessary or appropriate, to discourage or prevent short-term trading activity in connection with its advisory services. Such restrictions could include, without limitation, a fee imposed on the redemption or transfer of assets made within a certain time period, a lock-up of investor money for a period of time, or suspension of a redemption for any reason, in the sole determination of the Firm.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://files.adviserinfo.sec.gov/IAPD/Content/Common/crd_iapd_Brochure.aspx?BRCHR_VRSN_ID=1036773">https://files.adviserinfo.sec.gov/IAPD/Content/Common/crd_iapd_Brochure.aspx?BRCHR_VRSN_ID=1036773</a></p></blockquote><div id="youtube2-19hJCsc-F8Y" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;19hJCsc-F8Y&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:&quot;74&quot;,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/19hJCsc-F8Y?start=74&amp;rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p><em>(I really don&#8217;t think the communications at HK&#8217;s private funds are anywhere near as dramatic considering how much TPL has gained since HK&#8217;s initial investment, or even just since their 2019 proxy contest, relative to the recent post-Stahl drop so far).</em></p><p>This leaves the mutual funds which must provide daily liquidity and are thus the most exposed to this liquidity spiral risk. If investors in these funds sell their shares, HK has to get the liquidity from somewhere to pay them out at the value of the fund&#8217;s closing NAV (though HK does not have the obligation to sell these holdings in proportion to the fund&#8217;s existing composition and could, say, sell smaller holdings instead and thus actually increase their relative TPL <em>concentration</em>).</p><p>Unlike with the various independent SMAs, in a mutual fund, all investors share a single pool of assets and a single aggregate NAV. If investors redeems shares in fear of falling NAV, the fund must raise cash, which means selling assets from <em>something</em> in the shared pool. If these redemptions happen at a volume and urgency that results in the liquidation volume by the MF being such that the market&#8217;s normal volumes at the time cannot easily/quietly absorb those sales, then the MF is potentially forced to sell at prices below current spot prices and total NAV/sh declines &#8212;if this happens at great enough volumes to also move the entire market for those stocks themselves, the downward momentum is worsened and it feeds back to the NAV and so on. The remaining investors now hold a portfolio that has been partially liquidated on their behalf (regardless of their consent). If the selling happens at unfavorable prices, or generates taxable distributions, the remaining investors also bear those costs.</p><p>Per the Kinetics Mutual Fund&#8217;s <a href="https://kineticsfunds.com/about/">website</a>, these funds had $2.13bn AUM at the end of 2025. If we assume a collective 50% TPL concentration across all these funds, that would be 5.25% of TPL&#8217;s $20.3bn marketcap at the time. This $1.06bn TPL position would be around 7 days of market volume when using the most recent avg. daily volume figure of 537,632 shares/day and the Dec 31 2025 price of $297.33/sh. Again, HK could also sell off their smaller and/or at-a-captial-loss holdings &#8212;read as: lower conviction holdings&#8212; in order to satisfy redemptions and avoid selling TPL. Basically, I think HK can handle redemptions well enough &#8212;though this is one element that I&#8217;m still mulling over.</p><p>.</p><p>At the end of the day, I have no idea what HK will do or what other alternative routes they might pursue (or how much more the stock can fall from here), these are just some of my quick thoughts on the situation.</p><p>.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Others may be interested in this 2021 interview with Stahl, which is the only one I&#8217;ve found where he discusses his early life (along with building HK and FRMO):</p><iframe class="spotify-wrap podcast" data-attrs="{&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6765630000ba8a5d2fa1633f09b3cc7bfac7ac&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Murray Stahl | CEO &amp; Chairman of Horizon Kinetics&quot;,&quot;subtitle&quot;:&quot;Ghosthaus Media&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Episode&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.spotify.com/episode/5aNq8wWAxD5LehUnutHSMV&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;noScroll&quot;:false}" src="https://open.spotify.com/embed/episode/5aNq8wWAxD5LehUnutHSMV" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen="true" allow="encrypted-media" loading="lazy" data-component-name="Spotify2ToDOM"></iframe><p>(alt)</p><div class="apple-podcast-container" data-component-name="ApplePodcastToDom"><iframe class="apple-podcast " data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murray-stahl-ceo-chairman-of-horizon-kinetics/id1498888633?i=1000526731382&quot;,&quot;isEpisode&quot;:true,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/podcast-episode_1000526731382.jpg&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Murray Stahl | CEO &amp; Chairman of Horizon Kinetics&quot;,&quot;podcastTitle&quot;:&quot;In The Area&quot;,&quot;podcastByline&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:6099000,&quot;numEpisodes&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;targetUrl&quot;:&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murray-stahl-ceo-chairman-of-horizon-kinetics/id1498888633?i=1000526731382&amp;uo=4&quot;,&quot;releaseDate&quot;:&quot;2021-06-24T13:30:00Z&quot;}" src="https://embed.podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murray-stahl-ceo-chairman-of-horizon-kinetics/id1498888633?i=1000526731382" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay *; encrypted-media *;" allowfullscreen="true"></iframe></div><p>.</p><p>Older HK writings of Stahl&#8217;s that are no longer available on their updated site can be found in the <em>year-2020 snapshot</em> in the sitemap archive here:</p><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/sitemap/https://horizonkinetics.com/">https://web.archive.org/web/sitemap/https://horizonkinetics.com/</a> </p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Stahl was always rather doubtful of modern AI&#8217;s ability to actually interpret and discern useful meaning from it&#8217;s vast corpus of data and I thought it was a bit interesting that, as the crash in TPL&#8217;s stock price was happening, Yahoo Finance&#8217;s &#8220;AI explainer&#8221; for large movers confidently claimed that the 15% drop was due to broader energy stock pessimism relating to the US/Iran ceasefire and something about earnings disappointment. It later updated itself with a PR mentioning Stahl&#8217;s passing long after the market closed &#8212;with no audit trail to belie it&#8217;s initial erroneous claims.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Relevant to note that TPL&#8217;s recent partnership with ex Google CEO/Chairman&#8217;s energy infrastructure startup, Bolt Data &amp; Energy, to pilot out development of data campuses on TPL land  (<a href="https://www.texaspacific.com/investors/news-events/press-releases/detail/176/bolt-and-tpl-announce-strategic-agreement-to-pursue-data">https://www.texaspacific.com/investors/news-events/press-releases/detail/176/bolt-and-tpl-announce-strategic-agreement-to-pursue-data</a>) was almost certainly sourced and facilitated by Stahl/HK &#8212;and not TPL&#8217;s incumbent management/BoD&#8212; as the direct link to BD&amp;E from TPL is that BD&amp;E co-founder Allan Tessler was in fact a party <em>on HK&#8217;s side</em> of the 2019 proxy fight of HK et al vs TPL mgmt (<a href="https://www.texaspacific.com/investors/sec-filings/all-sec-filings/content/0001140361-19-007345/0001140361-19-007345.pdf">https://www.texaspacific.com/investors/sec-filings/all-sec-filings/content/0001140361-19-007345/0001140361-19-007345.pdf</a>).</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Readers may also find these related articles interesting:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://mutualfundobserver.com/2023/08/the-unfortunate-manager-the-ill-timed-bus-and-you/">https://mutualfundobserver.com/2023/08/the-unfortunate-manager-the-ill-timed-bus-and-you/</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/when-fund-managers-leave-their-fund-should-investors-follow/">https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/when-fund-managers-leave-their-fund-should-investors-follow/</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.asppa-net.org/news/2017/11/do-fund-manager-changes-affect-fund-performance/">https://www.asppa-net.org/news/2017/11/do-fund-manager-changes-affect-fund-performance/</a></p></li></ul></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Portfolio Review 20251231]]></title><description><![CDATA[Simply standing still on a bullet train can feel like getting your face ripped off when you're hanging on the outside.]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/portfolio-review-20251231</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/portfolio-review-20251231</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2026 20:20:15 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2jgK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb084dee-2125-4a18-81b1-5bac53c59465_904x542.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Performance</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dCkZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1231e71c-ad7d-419d-83ae-77ea1823adbd_609x847.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dCkZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1231e71c-ad7d-419d-83ae-77ea1823adbd_609x847.png 424w, 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The portfolio thus required some review and re-working through the year to mitigate these dragging effects and keep above water.</p><p>After re-deploying cash holdings as sentiment sank and the indexes went range-bound through the latter half of the year, I think the sizing and underlying fundamentals of the portfolio looks OK and still have a lot of flexibility to make changes or average up/down as things progress. While much time is left for things to develop (up or down), the portfolio has already gained +3.5% YTD in 2026 (with a cumulative weighted CashflowFromOps-to-Debt coverage of 1.7x and cumulative weighted P/E of 22x) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> vs 1.8% for the S&amp;P 500 (with a P/E of 31x) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> and I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing how the rest of 2026 plays out.</p><p>(<em>Readers using the substack desktop web browser site can skip to my random market commentary and top positions review via the navigable table of contents that appears as a very small stack of horizontal bars on the left of this page</em>).</p><p>.</p><p>The positioning at the start of 2025 was partly been due to having been (and continue to be) in agreement with the general <a href="https://www.latticework.com/p/the-great-rotation-the-case-for-intelligent">3D-vs-2D, hard-assets-vs-software reversion trade</a> (skeptics might call it a &#8220;revenge trade&#8221;) for a good while now which, for better or worse, has subsequently tended to result in low exposure to the big tech names that were the main drivers of the AI-driven index performance in the first half of 2025 &#8212;if you bought that April tariff-scare dip, congratulations.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mSDW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0305b19f-ac5a-4c2b-b76c-19cf18a27546_449x298.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Imagine seeing an equities/commodities ratio graph in 2015 (or as recently as 2020, for that matter) and banking on mean reversion; you would have been in for an entire decade of pain as that ratio only grew. </em><a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/products/etf/infl/#resources">https://horizonkinetics.com/products/etf/infl/#resources</a></figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TWT1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c504240-4944-42b6-80c2-46a030061fe7_1097x606.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TWT1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c504240-4944-42b6-80c2-46a030061fe7_1097x606.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TWT1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c504240-4944-42b6-80c2-46a030061fe7_1097x606.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TWT1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c504240-4944-42b6-80c2-46a030061fe7_1097x606.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TWT1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c504240-4944-42b6-80c2-46a030061fe7_1097x606.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TWT1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c504240-4944-42b6-80c2-46a030061fe7_1097x606.png" width="1097" height="606" 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This is also not meant to imply that Stahl/HK themselves haven&#8217;t done a good job of navigating the market despite this variant opinion, as shown by the slight out-performance of their headline mutual fund &#8212;though you&#8217;re certainly less happy as a Paradigm fund holder at the end of this year than you were at the start).</em></p><p>With these things in mind, ending the year flat in this case was one of the better outcomes relative to what could have happened if no action were taken.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LwoK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51d3d166-8009-4e41-a179-96ea66a7a15c_400x292.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LwoK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51d3d166-8009-4e41-a179-96ea66a7a15c_400x292.gif" width="550" height="401.5" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/51d3d166-8009-4e41-a179-96ea66a7a15c_400x292.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:292,&quot;width&quot;:400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:550,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;a man in a suit and tie says i 'm fighting for my fu * king life&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="a man in a suit and tie says i 'm fighting for my fu * king life" 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I thus started a slow-rolling review that led to taking money out of the market while also pruning certain positions that had been faltering on their fundamentals for too long. Meanwhile, the market seemed not to give those concerns much thought as it rose off the April tariff-shock lows. Then around the third and fourth quarters of the year, despite nothing new about those same pre-existing AI concerns I just mentioned being markedly different from the beginning of the year, &#8220;AI bubble&#8221; articles came into greater narrative focuses in financial news &amp; the wider investing discourse and AI&#8217;s dominance within the indexes then caused them to steer those indexes range-bound. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RaRE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd18df4e9-f1a6-4374-9c9b-726b8a199017_1096x610.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Funnily, Google was the outlier breakaway during the AI bubble uncertainty news cycle and was also the only AI name I had actually been accumulating up to that point. Again, large laggard positions in the portfolio would have made things a lot worse were it not for some good positioning elsewhere to buoy things. <a href="https://www.zerohedge.com/the-market-ear/worlds-hottest-stocks-have-gone-nowhere">https://www.zerohedge.com/the-market-ear/worlds-hottest-stocks-have-gone-nowhere</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>When those concerns did become more mainstream, the market seemed to digest the info rather well and without much contagion, instead reacting with orderly sector rotations and ranging. This made me a bit more optimistic about taking that declining sentiment and rising volatility as an opportunity to start gradually sizing back into positions given that the thing I was worried about was now hitting the mainstream and I could see that the underlying market <em>reaction itself</em> was not as bad as I had expected.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lGgt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03591187-95fd-431f-b745-672286d74f97_1142x553.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lGgt!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F03591187-95fd-431f-b745-672286d74f97_1142x553.png 424w, 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That is, there was high uncertainty in both periods, but net positioning remained neutral during the latter event. <a href="https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/$SPX/put-call-ratios">https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/$SPX/put-call-ratios</a></figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RkrX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09fd9151-d2ef-4b83-bdb7-73bf7725387c_1108x497.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RkrX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09fd9151-d2ef-4b83-bdb7-73bf7725387c_1108x497.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RkrX!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09fd9151-d2ef-4b83-bdb7-73bf7725387c_1108x497.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RkrX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09fd9151-d2ef-4b83-bdb7-73bf7725387c_1108x497.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RkrX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09fd9151-d2ef-4b83-bdb7-73bf7725387c_1108x497.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RkrX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F09fd9151-d2ef-4b83-bdb7-73bf7725387c_1108x497.png" width="1108" height="497" 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type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!__DY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ed17838-5476-4ed7-a0db-951e335cfab6_1114x398.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!__DY!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ed17838-5476-4ed7-a0db-951e335cfab6_1114x398.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!__DY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ed17838-5476-4ed7-a0db-951e335cfab6_1114x398.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!__DY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ed17838-5476-4ed7-a0db-951e335cfab6_1114x398.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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This is not what panic looks like. <a href="https://www.cboe.com/tradable-products/vix/term-structure/">https://www.cboe.com/tradable-products/vix/term-structure/</a></figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r1uT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba30d98d-a09b-418b-af4f-7167e5567665_949x473.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r1uT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba30d98d-a09b-418b-af4f-7167e5567665_949x473.png 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The <em>concerns</em> I was worried about materializing did materialized into the mainstream narrative along the lines I thought it would, but the market&#8217;s ultimate <em>reaction</em> was orderly rather than chaotic. The facts changed, so I changed my mind and started averaging back in &#8212;doing so slowly, given that I was already wrong once (if only by half). In retrospect, there were less radical ways I could have hedged; lessons learned.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdEG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc55e4708-300e-49a1-a361-02bbe4a02acc_957x736.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdEG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc55e4708-300e-49a1-a361-02bbe4a02acc_957x736.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdEG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc55e4708-300e-49a1-a361-02bbe4a02acc_957x736.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdEG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc55e4708-300e-49a1-a361-02bbe4a02acc_957x736.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdEG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc55e4708-300e-49a1-a361-02bbe4a02acc_957x736.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdEG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc55e4708-300e-49a1-a361-02bbe4a02acc_957x736.png" width="957" height="736" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c55e4708-300e-49a1-a361-02bbe4a02acc_957x736.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:736,&quot;width&quot;:957,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:628982,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/157666239?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc55e4708-300e-49a1-a361-02bbe4a02acc_957x736.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdEG!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc55e4708-300e-49a1-a361-02bbe4a02acc_957x736.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdEG!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc55e4708-300e-49a1-a361-02bbe4a02acc_957x736.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdEG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc55e4708-300e-49a1-a361-02bbe4a02acc_957x736.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KdEG!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc55e4708-300e-49a1-a361-02bbe4a02acc_957x736.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">President Trump cataloging the wars he claims to have mediated the endings of, accounting for the brief restart and end of the Cambodia - Thailand conflict; <a href="https://youtu.be/9XVjd3R2T3g?si=zL0H3U5ym_RKG557&amp;t=903">The White House, YouTube</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Economic data (when it was available) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> was mostly positive (if you trust the numbers being reported by the government and their calculation methodologies) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a>. Again, the market actually showed resilience during the later months of AI volatility. Index drops caught bids at resistance levels in a slower (still-)upward grind as stress remained contained to the AI space and correlations remained low across sectors as they maintained their relative performance or made slight gains, while the tech sector&#8217;s contribution normalized off of it&#8217;s post-Liberation Day run.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nRGg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffeee9782-5457-4d15-8253-48f1707e4174_934x486.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nRGg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffeee9782-5457-4d15-8253-48f1707e4174_934x486.png 424w, 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some industries are already experiencing or have experienced their cycle</strong>. We&#8217;ve seen it in manufacturing. We&#8217;re now seeing in building products, maybe parts of chemicals, parts of leisure. And the public markets are also obviously seeing dispersion, very different performance if you look by sector. And so that part of the narrative is not included when we kind of look at what&#8217;s coming out in the media. But from our seats, it doesn&#8217;t feel like last time. You can&#8217;t paint it all with one brush. And that&#8217;s not to say there isn&#8217;t risk of excess and bad actors. <strong>But what we&#8217;re taking comfort in is like air is periodically being led out of the balloon</strong>. ~~~ </em>KKR CEO, Scott Nuttall</p></blockquote><p>Companies appear to be successfully using AI/automation to <em>claim</em> productivity improvements (though I&#8217;d assume this also affects employment and thus the wallets of the very consumers many of the companies are trying to extract dollars from), are re-configuring their supply chains, and implementing other cost-management initiatives in order to mitigate tariff impacts, localized pockets of inflation, and the effects of the continued &#8220;K-shaped&#8221; economy <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a>.</p><p>Looking across a basket of representative companies, my sense is that governments are spending more on defense and resource nationalism and people are spending less on discretionary products and more on necessities while splurging on <em>experiences</em> (eg. casual dining and cruises) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a>. That is, high-earners are continuing to spend as usual (though even they are becoming a meaningful demographic for traditional discount retailers like Walmart), low/middle-earners are downgrading their spending or waiting for deals or price certainty (as well as, some might say, &#8220;doom-spending&#8221;, on experiences), while companies themselves are (successfully, for now) managing an overall decline or stagnation.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>As it relates to what we&#8217;re experiencing with customers and members here in the U.S., their behavior has been generally consistent. We aren&#8217;t seeing dramatic shifts. The way things have played out so far, <strong>the impact of tariffs has been gradual enough that any behavioral adjustments by the customer have been somewhat muted</strong>. But as we replenish inventory at post tariff price levels, we&#8217;ve continued to see our costs increase each week, which we expect will continue into the third and fourth quarters. Not surprisingly, we see more adjustments in middle and lower-income households than we do with higher-income households in discretionary categories where item prices have gone up. <strong>We see a corresponding moderation in units at the item level as customers switch to other items or in some cases, categories</strong>.</em>&#8221; ~~~ Walmart CEO, Doug McMillon, FY2026Q2 earnings call</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>[D]emand remains strong, as demonstrated by the outperformance in our fourth quarter by our onboard revenue per diem significantly outperforming prior year levels and our customer deposits up 7% year- over-year, hitting an all-time high for year-end. <strong>Our book position and recent performance are all despite Michigan&#8217;s U.S. consumer sentiment readings dipping quite low for several months throughout 2025</strong>, and in fact, last month dropping pretty close to its lowest level in recorded history. It is a true testament to the strength of the product offering across our portfolio of world-class cruise lines and our guests prioritizing their spending with us. In reality, the <strong>disconnect between consumer sentiment and actual booking behavior</strong> continues to reinforce what we&#8217;ve said for a long time. Demand for our cruise lines is proving far more resilient than traditional macro indicators would suggest</em>.&#8221; ~~~ Carnival Cruise Lines CEO, Josh Weinstein, FY2025Q4 earnings call</p></blockquote><p>IDK how long the high-income consumer can carry aggregate demand, but we see that the sub-$60K/yr consumer is struggling ever more (eg. looking at national restaurant and retail companies like Darden, Target, and Walmart). The system is presently functioning because the top percentile of earners are spending enough to offset the bottom 50%. That&#8217;s is surely not sustainable in the long-term, but could continue for years if productivity gains from AI continue delivering on margins while the high-income cohort continues getting wealthier. There&#8217;s also the interaction of the political dimension if/as that situation persists, I&#8217;d <em>guess</em> that would entail lower/capped interest rates and possibly various forms of wealth redistribution and <em>ostensive</em> explicit attempts at stimulating mainstreet (especially given that 2026 will be election midterms in the US) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a>.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>We continue to benefit from higher income families choosing to shop with us more often. Middle income households have been steady, and while lower income families have been under additional pressure of late, were encouraged by how our teams are meeting them with greater value across necessities and doing what we can to help them stretch their dollars further.</em>&#8221; ~~~ Walmart CEO, Doug McMillon, FY2026Q3 earnings call</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1Eqx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7dde2d39-01df-49e0-82c3-aa748f25463e_1243x833.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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(Though it&#8217;s possible I&#8217;m taking a leap here in assuming it&#8217;s due to downshifting rather than <em>optimization</em> by these high-income demos making use of Walmart+ convenience).</figcaption></figure></div><p>Within my own portfolio, I was able to see enough of the writing on the walls for many large positions that would indeed turn out to be significant losers later in the year and exit or significantly reduce these problematic positions early on, relative to how bad the declines eventually got in those names in most cases, and avoided most of the April &#8220;Liberation Day&#8221; tariff shocks. However, I was ultimately left fighting an uphill battle of thoughtfully exiting from concentrated positions in (starting/soon-to-be) falling angles in the portfolio combined with what I saw as a lack of other interesting ideas to average into <em>with size</em>, outside of simply beta-riding on the AI/tech themes &#8212;that are presently very concentrated around a few particular &#8220;winning&#8221; sectors of the AI value chain&#8212; that have come to dominate the market indexes. </p><p>The portfolio has since been reconfigured and am looking forward to 2026, but it does feel like I voluntarily chose suffering for 2025.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0HuN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4821ba1c-a90b-4b5e-adc8-0ba97937feed_419x738.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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Their large share of the indexes risks a convergence of downside correlations across all equities if any significant shocks are introduced to those concentrated few headline businesses. 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://yardeni.com/charts/magnificent-7/">https://yardeni.com/charts/magnificent-7/</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>This skepticism is not an original opinion &#8212;though it is a non-consensus one if the market indexes are any indication&#8212; and you can find many articulations of this idea around the internet <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a>, I just happen to agree with it&#8230; to the detriment of my 2025 performance. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Lh5X!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2a18b24d-3636-4500-b0f9-e2da69b28dad_545x454.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Lh5X!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2a18b24d-3636-4500-b0f9-e2da69b28dad_545x454.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Lh5X!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2a18b24d-3636-4500-b0f9-e2da69b28dad_545x454.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Lh5X!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2a18b24d-3636-4500-b0f9-e2da69b28dad_545x454.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I&#8217;m also skeptical that the 3- to 5-years-out incremental increase in calories, joules, or Tomahawk missiles that will be produced by AI (or, more likely, produced through AI-assisted process optimization) is going justify the massive levels of capex and capital being poured into the space; perhaps I simply lack the vision here re. the magnitude of how transformative this is going to be. Furthermore, I think there is a not-insignificant left-tail risk probability for existing levels of active and planned AI infrastructure investment to become rendered outdated and unnecessary overnight in stepwise (rather than linear) movements with the release of evermore efficient LLMs and associated tech like (eg. the release of DeepSeek) that requires orders-of-magnitude less kW per token. This would instantly change the forward valuations of many infrastructure-specific AI companies that have been valued based on assumptions of continued massive AI capex spending. (This is maybe just another way of posing the general concern of uncertain asset-useful-lifetime and depreciation concerns for AI data centers as the new industry evolves). </p><p>Meanwhile, some tech CEOs seem to be justifying their AI capex as massively expensive, yet existential, <em>call options</em> on owning a piece of The AGI Singularity (<a href="https://fortune.com/2025/09/19/zuckerberg-ai-bubble-definitely-possibility-sam-altman-collapse/">https://fortune.com/2025/09/19/zuckerberg-ai-bubble-definitely-possibility-sam-altman-collapse/</a>) &#8212;and TBF they have the cashflows and ROEs to afford it (for now). </p><p><strong>To be clear, I&#8217;m not saying people shouldn&#8217;t invest in AI. I am saying that one should size their position carefully and that I don&#8217;t think that the general market indexes are sizing that AI exposure carefully</strong>. Furthermore, the market is presently focusing on particular pieces of the AI value chain and IDK that these segments (hardware, infrastructure builders, LLM trainers) are necessarily going to be the most durable bottlenecks (read as: value-capture centers) as the industry matures.</p><p>Suppose AI becomes just another moatless commodity feature like cloud computing or mobile integration and P/S valuation multiples collapse from 8x to just a bit above pre-ChatGPT levels (to factor in the remaining incremental value of AI) of, say, 5x (38% decline). Supposing that the rest of the market remained intact, that means 32% of the index (that composed of the Mag7) falls by 38% for net effect of -12% to the index (0.32 * -0.38 = -0.12) <em>that would have to be made back up by gains in other sectors going forward</em> and Mag7 lowers to 23% of the total index <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a>. If we suppose that AI/LLMs ultimately become a commoditized net <em>expense</em>, yet remain must-have loss-leader features for the the big LLM companies and P/S multiples fell back to, say, the 4x P/S trough levels of the pre-ChatGPT boom in 2023, then that same math leads to a 16% index decline. Meme-stocks and SPACs may have been localized bubbles in the recent past that popped in an orderly fashion, but the difference here is that those past groupings were not 32% of the general market and so, for one thing, were less affected by additional sympathy selling and mechanical unwinding that might happen in such a &#8220;bubble&#8221; scenario for AI.</p><p>How does one size a position where the upside in success mode is not just uncertain or unlikely, but just totally undefined? I&#8217;m betting it&#8217;s not with a position that&#8217;s 32% of one&#8217;s portfolio. I could also be totally wrong about how transformative (or more importantly how profitable) AI is going to be within the next, say, 5-7 years.</p><p>In any case, in the longterm, I don&#8217;t think one needs to be first if indeed the industry is truly going to be transformative. We can wait until the industry gets to the point on the (possibly longer and more drawn-out than expected) S-curve where there are both attractive setups <em>and</em> established/proven models for profitability before investing with size into any particular participant across the AI value chain <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a>. <em>(Note that it is not a given that the particular AI activities being pursued most heavily by the big tech names are going to be the ones that capture the greatest economic value spread (of ROIC - WACC) within the wider AI value chain hat ultimately establishes itself as the industry matures)</em>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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Here is the general breakdown of underlying drivers <em>of the equity portion of the portfolio</em> (as of Jan 1 2026) as I subjectively categorize them <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a>. The way this chart works is by taking the portfolio weighting of all positions (excluding cash) and a list of underlying external drivers I&#8217;ve associated with each position and splitting up the position weight <em>equally</em> among the categories in this list to come up with a per-driver portfolio weighing chart <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a>. (<em>Note: these positions are not set in stone and I may change them up rather dramatically at any time</em>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2jgK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb084dee-2125-4a18-81b1-5bac53c59465_904x542.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2jgK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb084dee-2125-4a18-81b1-5bac53c59465_904x542.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2jgK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb084dee-2125-4a18-81b1-5bac53c59465_904x542.png 848w, 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At the same time, they are highly motivated to win the AI race given the existential threat this represents for their search biz (as the future of online ads will likely be LLM response-embedded ads, bypassing much of the top-search-results &#8220;real estate&#8221; that Google traditionally auctioned to monetize their search services). *UPDATE 20260116: Eg&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C9sa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd9c60145-f200-47fa-8e02-04a358277367_542x740.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(On the flip side, if AI &#8212;here defined as LLMs&#8212; turns out to be a dead end before achieving the singularity (AGI) or something close to it, then Google&#8217;s trad. ad business will remain intact, whereas I&#8217;d expect many other comps will have that new realization translate to much harsher valuation re-ratings for their stock)</em>.</p><p>Google should also theoretically have more (and more diverse) data than Meta, Microsoft, et al for training their models in the form of a vast corpus of proprietary of data from search queries, YouTube, Maps, Android, Workspaces, plus decades of experience in data indexing.</p><p>One way to look at it is that tech companies are collectively buying long-dated moonshoot call options on AGI (or becoming critical infrastructure in a (near) post-scarcity world). They&#8217;re basically rolling these contracts forward quarter after quarter and paying big premiums on the calls (capex investments), but the exact contracts they&#8217;re buying are not all the same; some are buying contracts that are relatively close to being in the money and with lower premiums (ie. they have better balance sheets, existing profitable businesses to fund the calls, and <em>already</em> incrementally improving their <em>base biz</em> with the marginal gains on their calls). For these companies, the options are already paying off <em>something</em> in the present, even if the net basket of calls is still somewhere in the red.</p><p>Other AI companies are buying deeply OTM LEAPs at big <em>relative</em> premiums (ie. their core biz <em>needs</em> an explosive payoff to justify the spend or to defend against disruption from the big tech incumbents). If their strikes never hit (eg. LLM scaling plateaus without reaching AGI), those options expire worthless without having contributed any marginal value to any base (non-commoditized) business of theirs that will still exist beyond that. <em>These</em> companies have no moat yet and are racing to find one.</p><p>.</p><p>Meanwhile I look at Google Cloud as a kind of hedge against some degree of search monetization loss/cannibalization from AI via offsetting revenues likely to come from the explosion of code and hosting demand as AI lowers the barrier to creating and deploying new software. (BTW, as I see it, more vibe-coded software ==&gt; greater ratio of unoptimized or bloated software in addition to growing overall denominator ==&gt; more cloud deployments that individually require more cloud resources). Meanwhile, I also see their specialized proprietary TPU technology as a call option for competition to Nvidia&#8217;s GPUs for AI demand <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-19" href="#footnote-19" target="_self">19</a>. Deals like Anthropic&#8217;s billion-dollar commitment to using Google TPUs highlights growing external adoption beyond Google&#8217;s own models <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-20" href="#footnote-20" target="_self">20</a>.</p><p>Alphabet also owns a 14% stake in Anthropic and 7% stake in SpaceX <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-21" href="#footnote-21" target="_self">21</a>. At some point these companies are going to IPO and their estimated marketcaps are already on par with some of the existing Mag7 companies ($350bn for Anthropic, comparable in size to the 25-26th largest US companies General Electric &amp; AMD, and $1.5T for SpaceX, comparable to 7-8th largest Tesla &amp; Meta) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-22" href="#footnote-22" target="_self">22</a>. Note that the S&amp;P 500 inclusion criteria and weightings are primarily based on marketcap <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-23" href="#footnote-23" target="_self">23</a> and these aforementioned companies would thus need to be mechanically bought by the index in proportion to their relative sizes.</p><p>Risks include AI over-investment <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-24" href="#footnote-24" target="_self">24</a> as well as the risk that LLMs end up not to be a winner-takes-most environment like these tech giants may be used to (as LLMs don&#8217;t presently generate any network effects) and rather end up as must-have, table-stakes, cost-centers for the tech giants going forward.</p><p>(<em>Additionally, while hard to map the approximate correlation to EPS growth or support-floors, I also see Google as a not-widely-recognized, systemically-important defense contractor of the US DoD &#8212;not just via their data mining, mapping, intelligence tools, and AI integration within the military </em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-25" href="#footnote-25" target="_self">25</a><em>, but&#8212; in assisting the DoD&#8217;s 5th-generation warfare efforts to grow, influence, and control the global digital memesphere/noosphere simulacra that has increasingly become the way that IRL social conduct and culture is increasingly mediated (even for people who don&#8217;t directly interact with social media)&#8230; IMHO</em>).</p><h3>Financial exchanges (MIAX, ICE, CBOE): </h3><p>I wrote a bit about the interesting business moats of (incumbent) exchanges and my skepticism around the recently IPO&#8217;ed MIAX in an earlier post here: </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;c27c3943-742e-415d-b868-52618f6dea90&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;Intro Launching it&#8217;s first options exchange, MIAX Options (currently 16.4% fo total US options market share), in December 2012, Miami International Holdings (MIAX) has since expanded into exchanges for equities (1.1% market share), as well as futures &amp; derivatives (<1% US market share), clearinghouse services, along with some niche international exchange&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:&quot;Read full story&quot;,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;$MIAX (Miami International Holdings): Some quick thoughts ahead of the IPO&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2025-08-13T19:55:33.276Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jeWH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f9f757e-7170-4f23-94c6-5008feb4c317_900x1140.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/miax-miami-international-holdings&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:170395504,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:14,&quot;comment_count&quot;:2,&quot;publication_id&quot;:572622,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hwtq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>I was initially skeptical of MIAX and wrote about the exchange a few days before its IPO, but bought into price &amp; volume-profile strength incrementally from an initial tracking position around the $29-30 zone as the position started working. After that additional round of averaging up as price and volumes moved positively into the $35-40 zones and continued beyond, MIAX has become the largest exchange position of the basket, followed by ICE then CBOE. These latter two exchanges are pretty well covered, so IDK how much I should talk about them here, but I&#8217;d just note a few things&#8230;</p><p>The individual position sizing here is partially based on the rank order of the ratio of CEO stock ownership value vs <em>total</em> comp, with those values being around 73x, 17x, and 1x for MIAX, ICE, and CBOE <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-26" href="#footnote-26" target="_self">26</a>. Based on the primary revenue driving products at the various exchanges, I see them has providing general asset-light exposure to&#8230; </p><ul><li><p>retail investor sentiment (with 75% of revenues from options trading &amp; 15% equities) for MIAX, </p></li><li><p>global energy volatility (certainly relevant during what&#8217;s looking to be an era of deglobalization and resource nationalism), fixed-income demand, and call option on political action re. the major issue of housing affordability via volumes on their mortgage management and securitization systems <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-27" href="#footnote-27" target="_self">27</a> for ICE, </p></li><li><p>and market volatility and retail sentiment/degeneracy <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-28" href="#footnote-28" target="_self">28</a> (w/ 50% of revenues coming from SPX and VIX options trading and remaining 40% &amp; 10% coming mostly from North American &amp; European+Asia equities trading) for CBOE.</p></li></ul><p>Another way to think of exchanges is as a diversified basket of long straddles, not on the index prices, but on investor <em>changes in positioning</em>, whatever the direction, via whatever index-linked securities are offered on the exchange. Here the straddle&#8217;s &#8220;premium&#8221; cost is the on-going expenses to host and maintain the index and associated data feeds (this is highly scalable, BTW). Meanwhile, owning an index product is like owning a long call that you only pay for once (ignoring annual ETF expenses) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-29" href="#footnote-29" target="_self">29</a>. The exchanges don&#8217;t get paid on the <em>direction</em> of the index, they get paid on the volume of <em>flows</em> that (may) influence the direction. That is, their straddle&#8217;s X-axis is not <em>price</em>, but the overall <em>changes &amp; investor interest in positioning</em> within a given index that fuels demand for index securities (ie. TX fees), data feeds, and 3rd-party licensing.</p><p>In options terms: If delta is the <em>expected change</em> in price (reflected IRL by whatever the static state of <em>current</em> investor positioning in the index is), then exchanges are long gamma (the 1st derivative of delta). That is, they are long <em>the change</em> in expected change, reflected IRL &#8212;at least where TX fees are concerned&#8212; by the dollar-weighted change or re-shuffling activity in the (re)positioning of traders and investors in the index.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ffC4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2843278e-c456-4f1a-a7d7-2563315ffabc_449x298.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ffC4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2843278e-c456-4f1a-a7d7-2563315ffabc_449x298.png 424w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">changes my own, base image source: <a href="https://www.tradingblock.com/calculators/options-breakeven-calculator">https://www.tradingblock.com/calculators/options-breakeven-calculator</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Furthermore, one can view ownership of market exchanges as superior to owning any particular index themselves. This is because the exchanges gain from the fees people pay to participate in the broad basket/portfolio of products trading on their platforms (be they related to equity indexes, commodity indexes, catastrophe indexes for insurance-linked securities, or any other manner of thing that can be conceived of, tracked, and packaged as an index to derive securities from). Those fee volumes rise in proportion to the popularity of the indexes to the extent that they draw in activity to make the indexes go up or down in the first place. So the exchanges ride along with the overall <em>popularity</em> of all of the various products that trade on their systems, without as much care for the direction of the products at any given time. The casino only cares about hosting popular games (and collecting the &#8220;rake&#8221;), not about which tables are hot at any time; the popular SPY S&amp;P500 ETF being just one such table hosted there.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MXeY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F780353a9-a720-45ba-b870-aa282e73aa52_1108x611.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MXeY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F780353a9-a720-45ba-b870-aa282e73aa52_1108x611.png 424w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">20yr performance of US exchanges vs S&amp;P 500 (SPX), S&amp;P 500 equal weighted (RSP), and Wilshire 5000 (WFIVX)</figcaption></figure></div><p>As I mentioned in the linked MIAX post, liquidity begets liquidity and incumbent exchanges are hard to displace; any new index or associated ETF products that people might think of can come along to displace any other existing index, but those products are only going to trade on the exchange platforms of a few entrenched incumbents. So, unlike any individual index, the exchanges also benefit from the endless right-tail of new indexes and other financial securities that can come into existence and gain massive popularity (which may work as exact left-tail events for any particular <em>established</em> index one may hold).</p><h3>Gold (IDR, TFPM, FNV):</h3><p>I&#8217;ve written about FNV as well as the general way I look at the gold royalty companies in the older FNV post here: </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;dac2be44-eea0-4679-868e-4f167b0cc72e&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;Ticker: FNV&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:&quot;Read full story&quot;,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($FNV) Franco-Nevada Corporation: Gold royalty royalty in temporary turmoil&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2024-02-02T23:45:25.349Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb70ae4c0-84d2-4400-9fe7-9c548ddde300_2100x2348.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/fnv-franco-nevada-corporation-gold&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:140784655,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:7,&quot;comment_count&quot;:2,&quot;publication_id&quot;:572622,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hwtq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>One change in overall gold exposure was a shift of some of the gains from the FNV position to a position in US gold miner Idaho Strategic Resources (IDR) as a part of a broader theme of escalating resource nationalism. This was initially a very small position that I&#8217;d been averaging into in small amounts as the position continued working (which was most of 2025) and it has since become the largest gold exposure. </p><p>I liked IDR for the higher gold-beta exposure, exchanging some of the gains in the more diversified and capital-light FNV for IDR&#8217;s higher gold-beta and domestic de-risking (re. deglobalization and South American jurisdiction risks, FNV&#8217;s Cobre Panama closure issues being a good example; gold as a political-volatility hedge/beneficiary does no good if your gold is &#8220;stored&#8221; in the vary regions that are experiencing / victims of that same vol) as well as it&#8217;s call option on domestic REEs that are becoming greater priorities for the military and the target of resource nationalism spending <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-30" href="#footnote-30" target="_self">30</a>. Unlike other gold miners, I think management is very well-aligned with shareholders and much less likely to over-extend financially or in terms of equity dilution. IDR&#8217;s <em>tangible</em> book value per share has grown at a rough CAGR of 28% since 2015 to Q3CY2025 vs just 11% and 3% for the largest global gold miners, Barrick and Newmont respectively, that I could have chosen as alternative gold-beta proxies.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VThB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffda82575-d77a-423c-97cc-8ae49f2c27a6_1529x500.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VThB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffda82575-d77a-423c-97cc-8ae49f2c27a6_1529x500.png 424w, 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I downsized here simply because of it&#8217;s diversification into oil and gas royalties which I believe are mostly light sweet and thus overlaps with existing exposures from Permian oil &amp; land royalty company, Texas Pacific Land Corp. (TPL), via my &#8220;HK Complex&#8221; positioning.</p><h3>Horizon Kinetics &#8220;complex&#8221; (FRMO, HKHC, TPL): </h3><p>Very quick background references for FRMO and HKHC can be found <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/143175435/background-info">here</a>.</p><p>For both FRMO and HKHC, I started buying after these names started finding support near the P/BV=1x levels for each (or historical valuation averages in the case of TPL) in the latter half of the year after they had gone through significant declines. I&#8217;m not saying these stock must thus go up from here, but that at a 1x P/BV you are now riding alongside these businesses at much less risk of tracking error between the experience (up or down) of the business vs your experience as a shareholder.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SqDK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65c94e1b-85d7-48fd-a532-6a40a6734f14_1583x464.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SqDK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65c94e1b-85d7-48fd-a532-6a40a6734f14_1583x464.png 424w, 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into a vast data center and energy hub (oil, gas, renewables, and nuclear) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-33" href="#footnote-33" target="_self">33</a>. I see HKHC as a more shareholder-aligned proxy for TPL exposure vs the nearly-zero ownership-vs-compensation ratio of the management team of TPL itself (with legacy TPL mgmt beginning to buy any equity stakes in TPL at all <em>only after</em> a proxy fight initiated by HK in 2019 aiming to establish better governance at TPL which resulted in HK &amp; allies gaining representation on the BoD). 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</svg></div><span class="embedded-post-cta">Listen now</span></div><div class="embedded-post-meta">3 years ago &#183; 13 likes &#183; 10 comments &#183; Six Bravo</div></a></div><p>On a look-through basis (considering that HKHC owns TPL shares outright as marketable securities as well as concentrated in virtually all of their managed funds, which they invest in alongside their clients and makes up 70% of HKHC&#8217;s book value), I estimate HKHC&#8217;s total TPL exposure for their own economic benefit to be around 32-35% <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-34" href="#footnote-34" target="_self">34</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-35" href="#footnote-35" target="_self">35</a>.</p><p>One thing that I&#8217;d caution on this point &#8212;of HKHC as a more trustworthy agent through which to gain TPL exposure&#8212; is that there is the risk that HK either wouldn&#8217;t (for psychological reasons) or couldn&#8217;t (due to the size of HKHC&#8217;s TPL holdings and liquidity constraints) sell off their TPL position in an orderly manner even if they decided that selling was the best course of action <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-36" href="#footnote-36" target="_self">36</a>.</p><p>I will have more to say about FRMO et al in a short post that I am planning to publish later, but for now I&#8217;ll just note that the current valuation of FRMO is historically abnormal and has tended to be the best times to buy for FRMO and that major underlying holdings of both FRMO and HKHC appear to have found technical price support. Furthermore, TPL&#8217;s price has declined greatly through 2025 partly due to continue market disappointment on any data center developments on TPL property. As mentioned earlier, in December 2025, some concrete developments on TPL&#8217;s AI front was announced in the form of a press release where TPL announced an agreement with BD&amp;E to develop and enable large-scale data center campuses and supporting infrastructure across TPL land (<a href="https://www.texaspacific.com/investors/news-events/press-releases/detail/176/bolt-and-tpl-announce-strategic-agreement-to-pursue-data">https://www.texaspacific.com/investors/news-events/press-releases/detail/176/bolt-and-tpl-announce-strategic-agreement-to-pursue-data</a>). </p><p>An interesting tid-bit on this subject is that BD&amp;E co-founder, Allan Tessler, was a party to HK&#8217;s 2019 proxy fight with TPL management.</p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/abdullaefakhro/status/2007897890539364418?s=20&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;<span class=\&quot;tweet-fake-link\&quot;>@BryanGreenbaum</span> My guess is this is the connection. Tessler, incidentally, was part of the investor group that, alongside $HKHC and SoftVest, agitated to restructure the board and introduce better governance at $TPL &quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;abdullaefakhro&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Abdulla E Fakhro&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1114773811214331905/oppKYUHA_normal.png&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2026-01-04T19:32:16.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/G917yFiXUAAyGBS.png&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/VZ5DxtrUl4&quot;},{&quot;img_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/media/G917-KiXgAARbic.jpg&quot;,&quot;link_url&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/VZ5DxtrUl4&quot;}],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:1,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:1,&quot;like_count&quot;:11,&quot;impression_count&quot;:1040,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p>.</p><p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I think do see recent oil developments in Venezuela are a risk to US shale prices, but IDK to what degree. I see arguments about the apparent dysfunctional state of Venezuela&#8217;s oil infrastructure and the time it may take to restore it (not to mention oil companies&#8217; hesitance to invest, given the countries socialist history of nationalizing assets <em>after</em> companies had invested significant capex) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-37" href="#footnote-37" target="_self">37</a>, as well as arguments pointing out the differing types of oil from that region vs US shale <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-38" href="#footnote-38" target="_self">38</a>. I think the &#8220;risk&#8221; is that presently-high expected breakevens <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-39" href="#footnote-39" target="_self">39</a> for Venezuelan reserves are brought down <em>quicker than expected</em> by the major oil companies under a less-sanctioned and more cooperative/stable Venezuelan government. This is very contingent on things working out well of the US in Venezuela, but that is where the &#8220;downside&#8221; (in terms of shale profitability) is. Also, US oil refiners along the Gulf of America &#8212;which are <em>mostly</em> configured to refine heavier oils&#8212; will then benefit from access to cheaper inputs <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-40" href="#footnote-40" target="_self">40</a>. Venezuelan oil is not a <em>direct</em> competitor to Permian shale oil in the sense that they are of different quality, but most of these refineries are equipped with coker modules that allow the refineries to break down these heavier oils from Venezuela into shorter hydrocarbons that are chemically similar to the lighter crude oils from US shale and can be used for similar final products. The story for US shale when it comes to oil-rich Venezuela-neighbor Guyana, which now faces much lower threat of hostilities from Venezuela and thus has been de-risked from an investment POV, is also going to be a knock-on effect from the change in Venezuela&#8217;s government <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-41" href="#footnote-41" target="_self">41</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yIt5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa28efdbb-bd3e-4421-ae99-361a3a2ad134_533x363.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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When the P/BV is at or below the historical norm of 2x, I&#8217;m fine to add to MKL as a better-aligned S&amp;P500-substitute to park money in when I don&#8217;t have any other ideas for what to do <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-42" href="#footnote-42" target="_self">42</a>. Basically a well-aligned mini-Berkshire (with a VC segment concentrated around construction services, building supplies, and consumer products) that I think one can confidently park their money in (when valuations allow) in lieu&nbsp;of better ideas w/ greater room to grow than BRK as it exists today; especially useful as a trustworthy default now that Buffett has stepped down from BRK and the future of that org and mgmt is more uncertain.</p><p>Competent management is table-stakes and even if you think your riding a superstar&#8217;s coat-tails, it still matters what kind of underlying exposure that superstar is adding to the portfolio, so we can quickly cover that here. The general breakdown of underlying exposures is: Insurance (50% of revenues); Markel Ventures (30%) with around 40% of <em>those</em> revenues coming from the Construction Services segment, 30% from Consumer and Building Products, and 10% from Transportation-Related Products; Investments (20%).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!efQa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F234e2c45-83e3-4631-84fe-da73244c6987_900x600.bin" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!efQa!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F234e2c45-83e3-4631-84fe-da73244c6987_900x600.bin 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(Note: my understanding is that MKL&#8217;s construction services and building products are much more strongly associated with residential housing and commercial real estate more related to offices buildings or malls/retail, rather than with the industrial construction that&#8217;s benefited from the recent AI-capex boom)</em>.</p><p>MKL has been restructuring from 2023 to 2024 since CEO Tom Gayner become sole CEO in 2023 (vs previous co-CEO dual setup) and getting rid of non-performing business segments while simplifying costs. Management thinks that these improvements should start showing up in bottom line starting 2026 <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-43" href="#footnote-43" target="_self">43</a>. Gayner owns an MKL stake worth 10x his total FY2024 compensation with total mgmt. group ownership vs total aggregate compensation at 20x. MKL has been a safe choice for a while with a long track record of beating the index since Gayner was added; operational changes here just add to that tailwind. Again, this was mainly an opportunistic, abnormally-low-P/BV + bet-the-jockey addition.</p><p>On a final note re. the MKL - BRK comparison: While past performance is not indicative of future returns, on the subject of MKL&#8217;s size and the idea that they&#8217;ve &#8220;<em>already made their 100x</em>&#8221;, I&#8217;d just point out that 1999 is when Buffett first cautioned BRK shareholders that he expected future returns for BRK to only moderately exceed the S&amp;P 500, with &#8220;<em>truly large superiorities over that index [being] a thing of the past</em>&#8221; due to BRK&#8217;s large captial base (BRK having a marketcap of $78bn at start of 2000 (vs MKL&#8217;s present day $27bn))<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-44" href="#footnote-44" target="_self">44</a>. BRK then went on to compound a 938% return by the end of 2025 (end the of Buffett&#8217;s official tenure as CEO of Berkshire) vs 435% over the same period for the index.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jhFE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fff8764-6e13-4857-ade3-ad1c28a8b4e0_1083x608.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jhFE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fff8764-6e13-4857-ade3-ad1c28a8b4e0_1083x608.png 424w, 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Without the backing of Congress, any DOGE spending pauses, contract terminations, or agency reorganizations, would be much more temporary and easily reversible by future admins or courts &#8212;and, again, nothing about the general deglobalization trend precipitating the need for increased military spending was changed. One can read more about this general idea in an older post, here: </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;eed729a4-abbf-4f4b-bbb4-a8ec3ae63837&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;So, I just finished reading Zoltan Pozsar&#8217;s Bretton Woods 3.0 (BW3) follow-on articles &#8220;Money, Commodities, and Bretton Woods 3&#8221; (MC&amp;BW3) as well as &#8220;War and Industrial Policy&#8221; (W&amp;IP) and &#8212;while I have a few questions about the ultimate conclusions&#8212; wanted to make some quick notes&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:&quot;Read full story&quot;,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;md&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;When prices get \&quot;real\&quot; and The Great Re-Everything'ing&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2022-09-24T13:38:13.907Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/h_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff499a7be-75b5-4358-a283-d8127f920add_700x419.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/when-prices-get-real-and-the-great&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:73665699,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:572622,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hwtq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>Indeed, DOGE turned out to be a bit of a boondoggle of its own and only realized a tiny fraction of the savings it set out achieve. Meanwhile, CACI announced that it had been buying back shares at an average price that turned out to be the near-bottom for the stock from Janurary to March of 2025. The market seemed to begin catching on as well, with valuation multiples nearly back to previous highs by April.</p><p>CACI is an asset-light defense contractor that has recently completed (according to management) a long-running transition from a services-based business to a software/product-based one, selling software final products and SLA outcomes rather than billable labor hours. It&#8217;s a common complaint from affected defense contractors that is often feels like the military likes to screw over services-based contractors as much as they can <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-45" href="#footnote-45" target="_self">45</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-46" href="#footnote-46" target="_self">46</a>, so transitioning from services to software is a positive move here and the DoD&#8217;s recent increased focus on software solutions is a cherry on top (<a href="https://media.defense.gov/2025/Mar/07/2003662943/-1/-1/1/DIRECTING-MODERN-SOFTWARE-ACQUISITION-TO-MAXIMIZE-LETHALITY.PDF">https://media.defense.gov/2025/Mar/07/2003662943/-1/-1/1/DIRECTING-MODERN-SOFTWARE-ACQUISITION-TO-MAXIMIZE-LETHALITY.PDF</a>). This unhappy dynamic doesn&#8217;t require any special access to figure out. The issue with services-based contractors in this context is that they are essentially just IT/programmers with a security clearance &#8212;not to say these aren&#8217;t scarce, but it&#8217;s table stakes. That services-based work is much more easily commoditized/replaced than a software system which is more tightly entrenched (and scalable) into operations in a way that is not so easily swapped out for another; you can change your sysadmin, but you rarely change your email client or operating system. One might think of CACI as having transitioned from Linux tech support specialists to RedHat developers, distributors, and maintainers of their own (open architecture) operating system(s) and working with different clients to continually modify OS versions for evermore bespoke (read as: entrenched) purposes.</p><p>As MorningStar puts it, product-focused defense contractors benefit from &#8220;<em>extreme [and particular / military-specific] product complexity that thwarts new entrants, bolstered by decades long product cycles [that increase sunk cost risks for comps], contract structures that reduce risk for the contractor [though I believe the military is moving away from cost-plus pricing, which is what I think is being referred to here] and lock out alternative suppliers, and the switching costs of a risk-averse customer facing significant time and risk to potentially switch [mission-critical] products [or vendors]</em>&#8221;.</p><p>.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>By cumulative weighted, I mean I get a column of the profit metric (say price) for each company and multiply by the portfolio weighting, then do same for denominator (say EPS). Then I take get the sum of each of those weighted numerator and denominator columns and do the division with those sum totals.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.gurufocus.com/economic_indicators/57/sp-500-pe-ratio">https://www.gurufocus.com/economic_indicators/57/sp-500-pe-ratio</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I would note that I don&#8217;t think the 3D-vs-2D trade makes sense to approach as a strictly binary choice. Value accrues to bottleneck owners, not to categories; companies that control irreplaceable constraints in their value chain. However, while there may be segments of the 3D hard asset industry that are low-capex, an issue that makes their value capture and margins more endangered than the more-easily-scaled, opex-centric 2D world of software companies with similarly low asset intensity, is that the former&#8217;s value chain in aggregate has higher overall capex-intensity, so everyone in the chain is still affected by any volatility and sensitivity of the higher leverage within the total system (vs 2D).</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Again, these were not novel ideas &#8212;though they were non-consensus at the time&#8212; I just happen(ed) to agree with them.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Eg. </p><p><a href="https://www.friendsofbls.org/updates/2025/11/12/2025-government-shutdown-faqs-on-bls-data">https://www.friendsofbls.org/updates/2025/11/12/2025-government-shutdown-faqs-on-bls-data</a> ; </p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/19/business/economy/labor-department-economy-data-october.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/19/business/economy/labor-department-economy-data-october.html</a> ; </p><p><a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/economic-calendar-these-are-the-government-data-reports-we-re-still-waiting-on-after-the-shutdown/ar-AA1TPQxQ">https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/economic-calendar-these-are-the-government-data-reports-we-re-still-waiting-on-after-the-shutdown/ar-AA1TPQxQ</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/03/business/trump-bls-firing-economic-reports.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/03/business/trump-bls-firing-economic-reports.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://apnews.com/article/kshaped-economy-spending-income-inequality-dfa59144ecb2e1b674242666e28ff556">https://apnews.com/article/kshaped-economy-spending-income-inequality-dfa59144ecb2e1b674242666e28ff556</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is another opinion that is not unique to myself, but I&#8217;m just saying that reading across various earnings calls throughout the year this is what I see as well.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Politicians rarely come out as explicitly &#8220;pro Wallstreet&#8221; as opposed to Mainstreet, but what I mean is that we&#8217;re more likely to see things like (thinly veiled) direct stimulus checks, favorable small business loans like the COVID-era PPP, infrastructure spending, or unemployment benefits extensions as opposed to (inescapably) pro-Wallstreet policies that are more focused on corporate profits, stock prices, financial sector deregulation/freedoms, and investor returns (eg. <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/trump-tariffs-live-updates-us-holds-off-on-chinese-chip-tariffs-until-mid-2027-hassett-says-2k-rebate-checks-likely-231853659.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/trump-tariffs-live-updates-us-holds-off-on-chinese-chip-tariffs-until-mid-2027-hassett-says-2k-rebate-checks-likely-231853659.html</a>). BTW, I don&#8217;t see either type of policy as being categorically good or bad for the wider economy or the median worker&#8217;s income.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>PS. I wrote all of this in December 2025, before Trump announced his plan to ban institutional investors from owning single family homes and before his proposal to cap credit card interest rates<em>.</em></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>eg. <a href="https://wolfstreet.com/2025/09/30/ai-makes-past-hype-cycles-look-tame-pitchbook-on-the-stunning-venture-capital-mania-for-ai/">https://wolfstreet.com/2025/09/30/ai-makes-past-hype-cycles-look-tame-pitchbook-on-the-stunning-venture-capital-mania-for-ai/</a>; <a href="https://www.oaktreecapital.com/docs/default-source/memos/is-it-a-bubble.pdf?sfvrsn=d4a92866_3&amp;utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email">https://www.oaktreecapital.com/docs/default-source/memos/is-it-a-bubble.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>12pt reduction in a 32pt. component of a 100pt. index ==&gt; (32-12)/(100-12) = 23% is new Mag7 concentration.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>If such profit models can indeed be found; <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/watch-warning-sign-time-run-222303486.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/watch-warning-sign-time-run-222303486.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I get that different segments of different value chains that any particular company may sit at are affected differently or represent different bullish expressions/exposures, but I try to keep a balance between being specific enough to get a good-enough at-a-glance sense of portfolio exposures while begin general enough that the chart does not fragment into illegibility such that it may as well just be a graph of the specific positions.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note that this method is not perfectly representative of underlying drivers, not just because of the subjectivity, but as it also means that a 2% position that generates 20% of revenues from activity A and 80% from activity B would be calculated as being a 1% exposure weighting to activity A and 1% exposure weighting to activity B despite the unequal contributions of the underlying activities.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://lmarena.ai/leaderboard">https://lmarena.ai/leaderboard</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is based on comparing both the flagship and efficiency-focused models of Meta (Llama), OpenAI, Anthropic, and Grok</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This was also an interesting read: <a href="https://www.smithstephen.com/i/182000640/models-the-big-leap-wasnt-only-intelligence-it-was-practicality">https://www.smithstephen.com/i/182000640/models-the-big-leap-wasnt-only-intelligence-it-was-practicality</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Interesting article on Google&#8217;s Tensor Processing Unit can be found <a href="https://blog.bytebytego.com/p/how-googles-tensor-processing-unit">here</a>.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-20" href="#footnote-anchor-20" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">20</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/anthropic-expand-use-google-clouds-tpu-chips-2025-10-23/">https://www.reuters.com/technology/anthropic-expand-use-google-clouds-tpu-chips-2025-10-23/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-21" href="#footnote-anchor-21" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">21</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/google-owns-14-percent-of-generative-ai-business-anthropic/">https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/google-owns-14-percent-of-generative-ai-business-anthropic/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-ipo-would-earn-google-111-billion-as-an-early-investor-2025-12">https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-ipo-would-earn-google-111-billion-as-an-early-investor-2025-12</a> (though no details on possible dilution since GOOG&#8217;s initial investment re. subsequent SpaceX funding rounds)</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-22" href="#footnote-anchor-22" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">22</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/anthropic-plans-raise-10-billion-350-billion-valuation-wsj-reports-2026-01-07/">https://www.reuters.com/technology/anthropic-plans-raise-10-billion-350-billion-valuation-wsj-reports-2026-01-07/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-23" href="#footnote-anchor-23" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">23</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>There are also profitability and liquidity requirements;  <a href="https://www.spglobal.com/spdji/en/documents/methodologies/methodology-sp-us-indices.pdf">https://www.spglobal.com/spdji/en/documents/methodologies/methodology-sp-us-indices.pdf</a>, see &#8220;Eligibility Criteria&#8221;</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-24" href="#footnote-anchor-24" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">24</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>See <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/bond-king-bill-gross-ai-stocks-capex-data-centers-tech-2025-9">https://www.businessinsider.com/bond-king-bill-gross-ai-stocks-capex-data-centers-tech-2025-9</a> and <a href="https://pracap.com/global-crossing-reborn/">https://pracap.com/global-crossing-reborn/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-25" href="#footnote-anchor-25" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">25</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/04/technology/google-meta-openai-military-war.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/04/technology/google-meta-openai-military-war.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-26" href="#footnote-anchor-26" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">26</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Based on the numbers as they existed at the end of their FY2024, per DEF14A filings; except for MIAX, for which I used the 424B4 Prospectus filed Dec 2025.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-27" href="#footnote-anchor-27" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">27</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>For example&#8230; </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xAhb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5ca0cbe8-18c6-40b8-b0eb-afb1ce63887b_524x680.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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In Q3FY2025, CBOE reported that 0-DTE options made up around 60% of SPX index options volume (vs just 25% at the start of 2022). I thought this X/twitter article was interesting and relevant: </p><div class="twitter-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://x.com/systematicls/status/2004900241745883205?s=20&quot;,&quot;full_text&quot;:&quot;https://t.co/FQe5bCBqW1&quot;,&quot;username&quot;:&quot;systematicls&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;sysls&quot;,&quot;profile_image_url&quot;:&quot;https://pbs.substack.com/profile_images/1982988371661336578/b0SV2XPc_normal.jpg&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-12-27T13:00:41.000Z&quot;,&quot;photos&quot;:[],&quot;quoted_tweet&quot;:{},&quot;reply_count&quot;:993,&quot;retweet_count&quot;:4516,&quot;like_count&quot;:25624,&quot;impression_count&quot;:15886622,&quot;expanded_url&quot;:null,&quot;video_url&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM"></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-29" href="#footnote-anchor-29" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">29</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note this is not the case for leveraged or inverse ETFs where you do need to continually roll your position as these types of ETFs reset (usually at the start of each day).</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-30" href="#footnote-anchor-30" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">30</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Ever since the DoD - MP Materials deal made headlines and spurred discussion about REE supply chains in 2025 (<a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/mp-materials-partners-with-department-defense-boost-us-rare-earth-magnet-supply-2025-07-10/">https://www.reuters.com/business/mp-materials-partners-with-department-defense-boost-us-rare-earth-magnet-supply-2025-07-10/</a>), I think many were made aware that refining, not access to the raw materials themselves, was/is the <em>primary</em> bottleneck re. ex-China REEs supply chains. To that end, I&#8217;d note that I continue to hold smalls positions in moonshoot domestic refining tech via AREC and RMCO, see </p><div class="comment" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.substack.com/home&quot;,&quot;commentId&quot;:165054373,&quot;comment&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:165054373,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-10-10T19:03:29.433Z&quot;,&quot;edited_at&quot;:&quot;2025-10-19T04:18:23.028Z&quot;,&quot;body&quot;:&quot;$AREC / $RMCO (American Resources Corp. / Royalty Management Hld.)\n\nThese are two related lotto-ticket / call-option-sized small/nanocap domestic REE positions I've been averaging into. (So keep in mind that I could sell most or all of this position at any time if the technicals fall out of my favor or I simply get a bad gut feeling).\n\nGiven the recent news drop of escalating REE restrictions on the US imposed by China (https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-tightens-rare-earth-export-controls-2025-10-09/) that started during the April 2025 US tariff disputes (eg. https://rareearthexchanges.com/news/rare-earths-and-the-u-s-defense-supply-chain-from-bidens-ban-to-trumps-trade-gambit/), I thought now was a fine time as any to simply make note of these two positions (and poll for anyone that may happen to know these names more deeply to chime in and lmk why I&#8217;d be an idiot to continue holding these positions (for for not scaling them up)).\n\nThese are asset-light, domestic REE / crit. material separation/purification models w/ scarcity value (in terms of limited public US asset-light/royalty REE cos.). I say &#8220;asset-light&#8221; as AREC is working on divesting pieces to become just a holdco on their various disaggregated segments and licensing use of their REE separation ReElement tech, while RCMO owns a perpetual 1.5% royalty on ReElement licensing sales related to &#8220;purification and separation of platinum group metals, gold, and silver&#8221; (keep in mind these are not REEs)).\n\nBiz is differentiated by AREC&#8217;s ReElement tech (19% owned RLMT subsidiary). This technology is exclusively licensed to RLMT based on decades of research in a partnership with Purdue University and allows for the ability to work w/ recycled materials (vs just refined ores), such as scrap magnets and old electronics, and in a more environmentally-friendly / NIMBY-resistant way. This process requires less chemicals, water, energy, and physical space in addition to being able to separate REEs of recycled materials (so there&#8217;s an ESG and circular-economy theme where this stock could get added to some associated index in the future when that latter theme becomes more popular, which I think will indeed happen in due time&#8230; sans a RLMT collapse/BK). These characteristics would make RLMT an extremely politically attractive option for domestic REE separation w/in western countries. (https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/2024/Q1/reelement-technologies-uses-purdue-tech-in-rare-earth-elements-production-critical-to-semiconductor-manufacturing-other-new-age-technologies/). Keep in mind that REEs are not particularly uncommon around the world, but the environmental impacts of refining that raw ore is what create bottlenecks around the production of the final output that are used in various applications (https://www.netl.doe.gov/resource-sustainability/critical-minerals-and-materials/rare-earth-elements).\n\n... and (hopefully) comes with a DoD/DoW solvency put (eg. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-department-defense-increase-domestic-130400848.htmlhttps://seekingalpha.com/news/4503078-sa-asks-will-the-us-government-continue-taking-stakes-in-miners) iff they can continue to prove commercial scale viability of ReElement tech (already producing and scaling w/ their tech at Noblesville and Marion facilities, so things appear directionally positive). (See https://www.proactiveinvestors.com/companies/news/1080153/us-china-tariff-tensions-create-buying-opportunity-for-tech-stocks-wedbush-1080153.html).\n\nRecent DoD industrial base sustainment grant ($2MM) and ReElement moving to finalist stage in Nat. Science Foundation's NSF regional innovation engines grant competition (15 finalists of 71 entries who will now be (have been?) scrutinized w/ on site visits/review in Jan 2026 w/ multiple grant winners possible) provide some external validation of ReElement&#8217;s technology as well (which is nice since I&#8217;m no expert on the whole REE processing supply chain) (https://www.nsf.gov/news/nsf-selects-15-finalists-advance-next-round-its-second). At this point commercial scalability appears to be the big factor yet to be proven.\n\nOverall, the US / The West appears to be in the early stages of a REE (and other critical materials) re/friend-shoring process &#8212;the existential strategic necessity of which has recently been made very clear&#8212; and AREC&#8217;s RLMT biz is a funded call option on (what may be) a very politically and strategically attractive alternative to Chinese and traditional processing methods. Zooming out, whether the retaliatory US tariffs in response to China&#8217;s REE restrictions actually go into effect on November 1 (or if the threat is just another so-called art-of-the-deal tactic), the US&#8217;s REE dependency vulnerability re. an ascendant China has now been brightly highlighted and that&#8217;s not a cat that&#8217;s going back in the bag, creating a structural DoD/DoE tailwind regardless of if the export restrictions or tariffs stay in place (keep in mind that the Pentagon&#8217;s recent offtake deal with $MP is for 10yrs (https://mpmaterials.com/news/mp-materials-announces-transformational-public-private-partnership-with-the-department-of-defense-to-accelerate-u-s-rare-earth-magnet-independence/))&#8230; again, this only applies to AREC so long as ReElement&#8217;s separation process can achieve commercial scale; I&#8217;ll be very interested in the results and finding of the NSF Innovation Engines grant competition later this year.\n\nKeep in mind I have no hard PT for how much this company should be worth, but I do think that, directionally, a business that can domestically separate/purify REEs in a more environmentally-friendly / NIMBY-resistant way, with lower energy, water, chemical, and space requirements for US/western supply chains will be worth orders of magnitude more than the current $300MM (or $50MM, in the case of RMCO&#8217;s royalty on PGM/gold/silver refining licensing). One might look at the Canadian co. Ucore Rare Metals (OTCMKTS: UURAF), itself in the early stages of commercializing a REE separation method with similar benefits as ReElement (modular and more env. friendly, though the form still uses similar principles of traditional chemical method of separation) for an example of where AREC could be headed if ReElement can prove its ability to do separation at scale&#8230; so let&#8217;s say $8-$9/sh for AREC in that (early) success mode validation.\n\nNote that there's also a lot to hate about the company as the planned spinoffs have had terrible executions so far and most of the debt (a significant portion of which are classified as current liabilities due to being open to accelerated maturities due to covenant breaches) relies on RLMT tech taking off and meanwhile will need to be serviced via external financing of some kind (either more loans or dilutive equity raises). They also stopped doing earnings calls after 2024Q3 (which was mostly about ReElement, scaling and funding), idk why. (For more, see https://iceberg-research.com/2022/11/30/american-resources-corporation-arec-digging-deeper-into-investors-pockets/).\n\nSo DYODD and keep in mind that these names are quite illiquid (and lmk if I&#8217;m making a huge mistake here if you&#8217;ve gone deeper on this name, ty).&quot;,&quot;body_json&quot;:{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;doc&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;schemaVersion&quot;:&quot;v1&quot;},&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;$AREC / $RMCO (American Resources Corp. / Royalty Management Hld.)&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;These are two related lotto-ticket / call-option-sized small/nanocap domestic REE positions I've been averaging into. (So keep in mind that I could sell most or all of this position at any time if the technicals fall out of my favor or I simply get a bad gut feeling).&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Given the recent news drop of escalating REE restrictions on the US imposed by China (&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-tightens-rare-earth-export-controls-2025-10-09/&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-tightens-rare-earth-export-controls-2025-10-09/&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;) that started during the April 2025 US tariff disputes (eg. &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://rareearthexchanges.com/news/rare-earths-and-the-u-s-defense-supply-chain-from-bidens-ban-to-trumps-trade-gambit/&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://rareearthexchanges.com/news/rare-earths-and-the-u-s-defense-supply-chain-from-bidens-ban-to-trumps-trade-gambit/&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;), I thought now was a fine time as any to simply make note of these two positions (and poll for anyone that may happen to know these names more deeply to chime in and lmk why I&#8217;d be an idiot to continue holding these positions (for for not scaling them up)).&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;These are asset-light, domestic REE / crit. material separation/purification models w/ scarcity value (in terms of limited public US asset-light/royalty REE cos.). I say &#8220;asset-light&#8221; as AREC is &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;italic&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;working&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; on divesting pieces to become just a holdco on their various disaggregated segments and licensing use of their REE separation ReElement tech, while RCMO owns a perpetual 1.5% royalty on ReElement licensing sales related to &#8220;&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;italic&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;purification and separation of platinum group metals, gold, and silver&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;&#8221; (keep in mind these are &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;italic&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;not&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; REEs)).&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Biz is differentiated by AREC&#8217;s ReElement tech (19% owned RLMT subsidiary). This technology is exclusively licensed to RLMT based on decades of research in a partnership with Purdue University and allows for the ability to work w/ recycled materials (vs just refined ores), such as scrap magnets and old electronics, and in a more environmentally-friendly / NIMBY-resistant way. This process requires less chemicals, water, energy, and physical space in addition to being able to separate REEs of recycled materials (so there&#8217;s an ESG and circular-economy theme where this stock could get added to some associated index in the future when that latter theme becomes more popular, which I think will indeed happen in due time&#8230; sans a RLMT collapse/BK). These characteristics would make RLMT an extremely politically attractive option for domestic REE separation w/in western countries. (&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/2024/Q1/reelement-technologies-uses-purdue-tech-in-rare-earth-elements-production-critical-to-semiconductor-manufacturing-other-new-age-technologies/&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/2024/Q1/reelement-technologies-uses-purdue-tech-in-rare-earth-elements-production-critical-to-semiconductor-manufacturing-other-new-age-technologies/&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;). Keep in mind that REEs are not particularly uncommon around the world, but the environmental impacts of refining that raw ore is what create bottlenecks around the production of the final output that are used in various applications (&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://www.netl.doe.gov/resource-sustainability/critical-minerals-and-materials/rare-earth-elements&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://www.netl.doe.gov/resource-sustainability/critical-minerals-and-materials/rare-earth-elements&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;).&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;... and (hopefully) comes with a DoD/DoW solvency put (eg. &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-department-defense-increase-domestic-130400848.html&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-department-defense-increase-domestic-130400848.html&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://seekingalpha.com/news/4503078-sa-asks-will-the-us-government-continue-taking-stakes-in-miners&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://seekingalpha.com/news/4503078-sa-asks-will-the-us-government-continue-taking-stakes-in-miners&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;) iff they can continue to prove commercial scale viability of ReElement tech (already producing and scaling w/ their tech at Noblesville and Marion facilities, so things appear directionally positive). (See &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://www.proactiveinvestors.com/companies/news/1080153/us-china-tariff-tensions-create-buying-opportunity-for-tech-stocks-wedbush-1080153.html&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://www.proactiveinvestors.com/companies/news/1080153/us-china-tariff-tensions-create-buying-opportunity-for-tech-stocks-wedbush-1080153.html&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;).&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Recent DoD industrial base sustainment grant ($2MM) and ReElement moving to finalist stage in Nat. Science Foundation's NSF regional innovation engines grant competition (15 finalists of 71 entries who will now be (have been?) scrutinized w/ on site visits/review in Jan 2026 w/ multiple grant winners possible) provide some external validation of ReElement&#8217;s technology as well (which is nice since I&#8217;m no expert on the whole REE processing supply chain) (&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://www.nsf.gov/news/nsf-selects-15-finalists-advance-next-round-its-second&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://www.nsf.gov/news/nsf-selects-15-finalists-advance-next-round-its-second&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;). At this point commercial scalability appears to be &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;italic&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;the&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; big factor yet to be proven.&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Overall, the US / The West appears to be in the early stages of a REE (and other critical materials) re/friend-shoring process &#8212;the existential strategic necessity of which has recently been made very clear&#8212; and AREC&#8217;s RLMT biz is a funded call option on (what may be) a very politically and strategically attractive alternative to Chinese and traditional processing methods. Zooming out, whether the retaliatory US tariffs in response to China&#8217;s REE restrictions actually go into effect on November 1 (or if the threat is just another so-called art-of-the-deal tactic), the US&#8217;s REE dependency vulnerability re. an ascendant China has now been brightly highlighted and that&#8217;s not a cat that&#8217;s going back in the bag, creating a structural DoD/DoE tailwind regardless of if the export restrictions or tariffs stay in place (keep in mind that the Pentagon&#8217;s recent offtake deal with $MP is for 10yrs (&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://mpmaterials.com/news/mp-materials-announces-transformational-public-private-partnership-with-the-department-of-defense-to-accelerate-u-s-rare-earth-magnet-independence/&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://mpmaterials.com/news/mp-materials-announces-transformational-public-private-partnership-with-the-department-of-defense-to-accelerate-u-s-rare-earth-magnet-independence/&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;))&#8230; again, this only applies to AREC so long as ReElement&#8217;s separation process can achieve commercial scale; I&#8217;ll be very interested in the results and finding of the NSF Innovation Engines grant competition later this year.&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Keep in mind I have no hard PT for how much this company should be worth, but I do think that, directionally, a business that can domestically separate/purify REEs in a more environmentally-friendly / NIMBY-resistant way, with lower energy, water, chemical, and space requirements for US/western supply chains will be worth orders of magnitude more than the current $300MM (or $50MM, in the case of RMCO&#8217;s royalty on PGM/gold/silver refining licensing). One might look at the Canadian co. Ucore Rare Metals (OTCMKTS: UURAF), itself in the early stages of commercializing a REE separation method with similar benefits as ReElement (modular and more env. friendly, though the form still uses similar principles of traditional chemical method of separation) for an example of where AREC could be headed if ReElement can prove its ability to do separation at scale&#8230; so let&#8217;s say $8-$9/sh for AREC in that (early) success mode validation.&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Note that there's also &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;italic&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;a lot&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; to hate about the company as the planned spinoffs have had terrible executions so far and most of the debt (a significant portion of which are classified as current liabilities due to being open to accelerated maturities due to covenant breaches) relies on RLMT tech taking off and meanwhile will need to be serviced via external financing of some kind (either more loans or dilutive equity raises). They also stopped doing earnings calls after 2024Q3 (which was mostly about ReElement, scaling and funding), idk why. (For more, see &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://iceberg-research.com/2022/11/30/american-resources-corporation-arec-digging-deeper-into-investors-pockets/&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://iceberg-research.com/2022/11/30/american-resources-corporation-arec-digging-deeper-into-investors-pockets/&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;).&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;So DYODD and keep in mind that these names are quite illiquid (and lmk if I&#8217;m making a huge mistake here if you&#8217;ve gone deeper on this name, ty).&quot;}]}]},&quot;restacks&quot;:0,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:4,&quot;attachments&quot;:[],&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;user_id&quot;:58613880,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;user_bestseller_tier&quot;:null,&quot;userStatus&quot;:{&quot;bestsellerTier&quot;:null,&quot;subscriberTier&quot;:null,&quot;leaderboard&quot;:null,&quot;vip&quot;:false,&quot;badge&quot;:null,&quot;paidPublicationIds&quot;:[],&quot;subscriber&quot;:null}}}" data-component-name="CommentPlaceholder"></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-31" href="#footnote-anchor-31" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">31</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is based on FY2024 DEF14A filings of compensation and value of ownership stake <em>at that time</em> for IDR and &#8220;management circular&#8221; docs for the Canadian Barrick and Newmont. I do it this way because 1) this was the state of things as the existed at the time I started building a small IDR position and 2) we&#8217;ve yet to see how any changes in ownership value compare to how execs will reward themselves after gold&#8217;s great run through in 2025.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-32" href="#footnote-anchor-32" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">32</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Readers may also find this 2024 interview with IDR CEO John Swallow interesting: </p><iframe class="spotify-wrap podcast" data-attrs="{&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6765630000ba8a193a8ebfab1c665bd9522976&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;John Swallow: Building A Different Mining Company (Idaho Strategic)&quot;,&quot;subtitle&quot;:&quot;Brandon Beylo&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Episode&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.spotify.com/episode/3MyZJ4oHaK2LASTk7Z40t0&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;noScroll&quot;:false}" src="https://open.spotify.com/embed/episode/3MyZJ4oHaK2LASTk7Z40t0" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen="true" allow="encrypted-media" loading="lazy" data-component-name="Spotify2ToDOM"></iframe></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-33" href="#footnote-anchor-33" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">33</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://fortune.com/2026/01/02/eric-schmidt-ai-data-centers-bolt-texas-pacific-land-tpl/">https://fortune.com/2026/01/02/eric-schmidt-ai-data-centers-bolt-texas-pacific-land-tpl/</a> ; <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-ex-ceo-eric-schmidt-120000504.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-ex-ceo-eric-schmidt-120000504.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-34" href="#footnote-anchor-34" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">34</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>((direct TPL holdings)+(TPL holdings of Kinetics Market Opportunities Fund, held directly)+(assumed TPL holdings of aggregated Interests in Proprietary Funds)) / BV </p><p>= ($53.9MM+($8.714MM&#215;.033)+($248MM&#215;.38)) / 469.8 </p><p>= 0.32 </p><p>Numbers based on HKHC&#8217;s FY2025Q3 10Q. This roughly works out to be around the same ratio as compared to their overall equity holdings (inclusive of stocks held in various funds for clients&#8217; economic benefit) (<a href="https://whalewisdom.com/filer/horizon-asset-management-inc-ny">https://whalewisdom.com/filer/horizon-asset-management-inc-ny</a>) because I <em>assume</em> that is the look-through breakdown of the &#8220;Interests in Proprietary Funds&#8221; that HKHC invests in alongside their clients. However some funds have greater ratio of TPL holdings than that, such as HK&#8217;s flagship Paradigm Fund which is 60% concentrated in TPL. This would result in a 35% TPL look-through allocation.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-35" href="#footnote-anchor-35" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">35</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Similar calculations also show a 10% exposure to BTC plus some de minimis holdings of other digital assets, on a look-through basis.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-36" href="#footnote-anchor-36" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">36</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.morningstar.com/funds/fund-shop-bets-ranch-one-stock">https://www.morningstar.com/funds/fund-shop-bets-ranch-one-stock</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-37" href="#footnote-anchor-37" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">37</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-oil-majors-hesitant-invest-010000425.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-oil-majors-hesitant-invest-010000425.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-38" href="#footnote-anchor-38" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">38</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The quality or grades of different crude oils are based on the sulfur content (sour=high, sweet=low) and the API gravity or weight, basically how well it flows <em>relative</em> to water and how it floats or sinks relative to water. To make the terms more tangible, these properties are <em>mostly</em> based on the average length and complexity of the different carbon chains (hydrocarbon molecules) in the crude oil itself: greater mix of bigger hydrocarbons ==&gt; gooier and more viscous ==&gt; lower API gravity (relative to water, think low=sinks). Venezuelan crude is heavy-sour, while Texas Permian shale oil is light-sweet.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-39" href="#footnote-anchor-39" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">39</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/commentary/breakingviews/venezuelas-oil-claims-are-slick-goopy-mess-2026-01-08/">https://www.reuters.com/commentary/breakingviews/venezuelas-oil-claims-are-slick-goopy-mess-2026-01-08/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-40" href="#footnote-anchor-40" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">40</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This infrastructure vs input mismatch may seem odd, but my understanding is that most US Gulf Coast refineries were built and optimized during the mid-to-late 20th century, when the US relied heavily on imports of heavy-sour crude from countries like Venezuela, Mexico, and Saudi Arabia (and the lighter oil from US shale was either not known of or was considered to be too expensive to extract, before the fracking process was implemented). Global supply chains were thus configured around that dynamic. The shale revolution in the US only started in the early 2000s and by that point, the heavy-sour supply chains were well established/optimized and most refiners did not want to make the capex investments to use those more proximate oil grades, so supply chains developed to send them elsewhere and likewise became entrenched/optimized.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-41" href="#footnote-anchor-41" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">41</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/guyanas-oil-wealth-drives-tensions-venezuela">https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/guyanas-oil-wealth-drives-tensions-venezuela</a> ; <a href="https://kaieteurnewsonline.com/2024/06/10/cost-to-produce-oil-in-guyana-second-cheapest-in-the-world-new-intl-oil-report/">https://kaieteurnewsonline.com/2024/06/10/cost-to-produce-oil-in-guyana-second-cheapest-in-the-world-new-intl-oil-report/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-42" href="#footnote-anchor-42" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">42</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Noting that P/BV does not capture the additional value of the VC biz segment and likely discounts the value there; Markel was actually under pressure by an activist investor in 2024 to sell/spin-off the this segment under this argument. Rather then sell the business, MKL mgmt changed how the VC operations are reported on in filings to give better look-through resolution as well as attempting to optimize the insurance operations to further try to reduce the &#8220;conglomerate/complexity discount&#8221; that was presumably affecting the stock price.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-43" href="#footnote-anchor-43" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">43</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>From MKL FY2025 Q1 and Q3 earnings calls (combined):</p><blockquote><p><em>So &#8216;25 is a bit of a transitional year as that premium is kind of flat in the early stages, and we expect some acceleration during the second half. But the initiatives that will set off during the course of &#8216;25 will pay dividends in &#8216;26 and beyond. [&#8230;] With the portfolio streamlined and greater discipline in place, our next big step began earlier this year, shifting our focus from simply pruning the portfolio and exiting profitable lines to actively pursuing profitable growth. [&#8230;] Now that we&#8217;ve made our way through the bulk of the necessary organizational changes, we are turning our focus to execution, including developing bottom-up, customer-focused business plans by our new P&amp;L owners for 2026 and beyond</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-44" href="#footnote-anchor-44" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">44</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1999htm.html">https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1999htm.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-45" href="#footnote-anchor-45" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">45</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>One could reasonably consider this a duty to the tax payer.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-46" href="#footnote-anchor-46" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">46</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Barring the odd nepotism- or affair-based contract award.</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[$MIAX (Miami International Holdings): Some quick thoughts ahead of the IPO]]></title><description><![CDATA[Intro Launching it&#8217;s first options exchange, MIAX Options (currently 16.4% fo total US options market share), in December 2012, Miami International Holdings (MIAX) has since expanded into exchanges for equities (1.1% market share), as well as futures & derivatives (<1% US market share), clearinghouse services, along with some niche international exchanges.]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/miax-miami-international-holdings</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/miax-miami-international-holdings</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2025 19:55:33 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jeWH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f9f757e-7170-4f23-94c6-5008feb4c317_900x1140.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Intro</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jeWH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f9f757e-7170-4f23-94c6-5008feb4c317_900x1140.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jeWH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f9f757e-7170-4f23-94c6-5008feb4c317_900x1140.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jeWH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f9f757e-7170-4f23-94c6-5008feb4c317_900x1140.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jeWH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f9f757e-7170-4f23-94c6-5008feb4c317_900x1140.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jeWH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f9f757e-7170-4f23-94c6-5008feb4c317_900x1140.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jeWH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f9f757e-7170-4f23-94c6-5008feb4c317_900x1140.jpeg" width="452" height="572.5333333333333" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3f9f757e-7170-4f23-94c6-5008feb4c317_900x1140.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1140,&quot;width&quot;:900,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:452,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;About MIAX | MIAX&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="About MIAX | MIAX" title="About MIAX | MIAX" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Launching it&#8217;s first options exchange, MIAX Options (currently 16.4% fo total US options market share), in December 2012, Miami International Holdings (MIAX) has since expanded into exchanges for equities (1.1% market share), as well as futures &amp; derivatives (&lt;1% US market share), clearinghouse services, along with some niche international exchanges. In 2022 MIAX filed it&#8217;s initial paperwork for it&#8217;s IPO and recently started their IPO roadshow on Aug 8, 2025.</p><p>Exchanges can be interesting businesses from a competitive advantage POV, as scale and liquidity can create self-reinforcing flywheels that enable better execution and more opportunity for sufficiently supporting new types of more bespoke contracts (that often require nothing more than some new idea for something traders can bet against each other on and a few new servers in a data center) that thus attracts even more liquidity and so on.</p><p>Furthermore, an exchange may have it&#8217;s own dedicated clearing house that maintains a guaranty fund that all members contribute to in addition to posting collateral into for each open position, either in full or margin depending on the clearinghouse license, to spread default risk and cover possible obligations/losses that could be incurred upon liquidation or expiration of a contract that a trading party may end up defaulting on. A trader wanting to trade on an additional/competing exchange with it&#8217;s own clearinghouse would have to put up an additional tranche of capital that would be locked in the pooled guaranty fund of that exchange (vs being available to compound at some opportunity-cost rate elsewhere) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>, thus a firm may be more reluctant to even consider doing business on a new exchange unless there is a compelling reason to trade at that venue (ie. an enticing and unique type of futures or derivative) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>. In the event of a counterparty to a trade defaulting, the exchange would seize that defaulting members collateral and guaranty fund contribution, plus a portion from other members contribution if needed, in order to settle the trade for the other side; so more members means greater spreading of risk. New clearinghouses, with their lack of initial contributing members, don&#8217;t have as much pooled collateral to mitigate/spread counterparty risk in case of a trade default, which can create a chicken-egg problem where firms are less willing to join because others aren't already part of the clearinghouse (<a href="https://www.paystand.com/blog/what-is-a-clearing-house">https://www.paystand.com/blog/what-is-a-clearing-house</a>). <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a></p><p>Given these advantages (in addition to the fact that one of MIAX&#8217;s major shareholders is Murray Stahl, whose investing ideas I always find very interesting), I thought it would be interesting to look a bit more into the up-and-coming exchange. (Spoiler: those same advantages I mentioned that make exchanges such interesting businesses also make it very hard for new entrants, like MIAX, to gain headway and in MIAX&#8217;s case I think it shows).</p><p><a href="https://www.miaxglobal.com/news/miami-international-holdings-announces-launch-initial-public-offering">https://www.miaxglobal.com/news/miami-international-holdings-announces-launch-initial-public-offering</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1438472/000162828025037294/0001628280-25-037294-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1438472/000162828025037294/0001628280-25-037294-index.html</a></p><h1>Some observations&#8230; </h1><p>Some quick observations from MIAX IPO prospectus... </p><h2>Technology so good, we have to pay people to use it</h2><p>In the prospectus, MIAX highlights their technology advantage, among others, saying&#8230; &#8220;<em>[w]e</em> <em>are not encumbered by legacy systems or reliant on our core data revenues to date, so we have significant flexibility in how we monetize and distribute our data, providing an attractive growth opportunity. Our proprietary products may also provide an additional avenue to create exclusive data and analytics products for our customers. We believe our strategic investments also create opportunities for development of additional products as well as data and analytics offerings.</em>&#8221; </p><p>MIAX has been paying for order flow via liquidity payments, rebates, and &#8212;something I&#8217;ve not seen at other exchanges<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>&#8212; several equity right programs (ERPs) to key market makers and trading firm members of the exchange. These ERPs provided warrants for MIAX equity in exchange for participants directing their order flow through MIAX exchanges and in some cases resulted in put rights that gave holders the option to require MIAX to repurchase the puttable securities; note these specific liabilities are nullified after the IPO. The EPRs resulted in exchange members accumulating significant ownership stakes in the company <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a>. If MIAX&#8217;s tech was <em>meaningfully</em> superior vs incumbent &#8220;legacy systems&#8221; why have they needed to give away so much of the company to get people to use it?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9OEr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7df122b-a876-415f-a06d-24ecc1ab36a6_1089x392.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9OEr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7df122b-a876-415f-a06d-24ecc1ab36a6_1089x392.png 424w, 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This would be 9.7% of MIAX shares, post-IPO, if fully exercised. Lastly, this warrant includes a provisions where Citadel can have MIAX buy back the value of the underlying shares at any time and for any remaining is also &#8220;entitled to receive its share of any dividends or pro rata distributions to stockholders on an as-exercised basis.&#8221; That is, they are able to recieve any dividends or other shareholder distributions without having to actually exercise the warrant; very favorable terms.</em>)</p><p>Note that these programs have been ongoing since MIAX&#8217;s founding all the way through it&#8217;s 12 years of operation and were only ended this year ahead of the IPO. It&#8217;s an interesting attempt to align incentives, but I wonder if this dilution will continue post-IPO (via new ERPs down the road) or how order flow might change <em>in the absence</em> of any new ERPs for key exchange members.</p><h2>Non-operating profits</h2><p>2024&#8217;s positive earnings seems to have been chiefly due to the sale of unlocked Pyth tokens earned from their Bermuda Stock Exchange&#8217;s (BSX) contribution of market data feed (from MIAX Pearl Equities market) to the DeFi Pyth Network (as well as due to the <em>accounting</em> &#8220;profit&#8221; from unrealized gains on remaining held Pyth tokens). To be brief, the Pyth Network is a decentralized finance platform for market data distribution (people or smart-contracts pay for data requests on the network via Pyth tokens that can also be &#8220;staked&#8221; to participate in / influence network governance). BSX earns Pyth tokens in exchange for providing select MIAX market data to the network. BSX currently has rights to several tranches of Pyth tokens that are scheduled to unlock for available sale over the course of the next few years into 2028 <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a>. One can read more about the Pyth Network here (<a href="https://www.thebigwhale.io/tokens/pyth-network">https://www.thebigwhale.io/tokens/pyth-network</a>).</p><p>For the purposes of evaluating the business, I tend to want to exclude this BSX-Pyth arrangement as I see it as not really a part of the main operations of the business and very speculative, as well as having a rather limited duration.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> </p><p>Without this Pyth token sale boost (accompanied by the purely <em>accounting</em> profit of <em>unrealized</em> gain on the remaining locked Pyth tokens for the period)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a>, MIAX&#8217;s total 2024 net income would have been negative, similar to 2023 results. The 2022 operating income was slightly positive, with earnings getting a major boost from a markdown of MIAX&#8217;s ERP liabilities in that year &#8212;ie. the assessed fair value of MIAX stock went down&#8212; (resulting in an <em>accounting</em> gain on the income statement) without which the company&#8217;s interest expenses would have again resulted in negative earnings for the period. It&#8217;s worth mentioning here that around 50% of the planned IPO proceeds are intended to go towards extinguish most of the company&#8217;s remaining indebtedness. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a></p><p>By my calculation of the FCF margins for the reported periods, we have&#8230;</p><p>1H2025: 6.50% (w/ Pyth token sales); 4.03% (w/out Pyth sales)</p><p>2024: 6.35% (w/ Pyth token sales); 1.75% (w/out Pyth sales)</p><p>2023: -7.21%</p><p>2022: 12.74%</p><p>Compare this to the FCF margins of the incumbent exchanges over the same periods:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9L93!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d08074e-6a95-4b06-92da-87815f4c4f1d_1199x326.png" 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and subscribers back to data suppliers based on each exchange&#8217;s market share of total volume, trades, and quotes; you can see how venue liquidity can have a positive flywheel effect in this regard.</p><p>For the first half of this year, 1H2025, MIAX reported a 27% YoY increase in market data fees (which made up around 10% of their total gross profits), with 88% of the increase ($3.7MM/$4.2MM=0.88) being attributed to &#8220;<em>fee increases and new product offerings.</em>&#8221; (I would have liked to see a further breakout between increases to fees vs new product offerings). 2024 also saw a 11.7% YoY increase in market data fees, specifically due to fee increases in MIAX Pearl Equities data. </p><p>So far, it appears that MIAX has been able to raise prices just fine, but a broader point of interest that I&#8217;m reminded of by this particular selling point is the SEC roadblock that smaller exchange IEX faced in November 2021 when trying to charge for their real-time market data that they had previously offered for free. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a></p><p>The SEC stepped in and suspended the proposed fee change in December of that year citing concerns about the reasonableness and potential impact of the fees on market participants despite these fees being much lower than those charged by the larger exchanges for similar types of data. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a></p><p>IEX was ultimately allowed to change their fee structure, but the moral of the story here is that incumbents often have a advantages from regulatory complexity not just in their ability to navigate them, but also in their grandfathered-in status quo treatment or existing state of operations (built up in earlier times of laxer enforcement or less complicated regulations) that new entrants might not have the fortune of encountering from regulators when trying to work their way to the same scale/status. </p><p>(From this POV, the BSX-Pyth data feed agreement is actually an interesting way to try to avoid these kinds of specific issues and explore new means of data monetization).</p><h2>Liquidity goes where liquidity (already) goes</h2><p>Basically, MIAX&#8217;s main advantage vs the big players seems to be that they are small enough that they can take advantage of smaller/niche assets classes (eg. crypto, wheat futures, and insurance linked securities) or jurisdictions (eg. BSX in Bermuda and TISE under the British Crown Dependency of Guernsey) and have that make a meaningful impact on their bottom line; their &#8220;<em>strategic investments</em>&#8221; intended to &#8220;<em>create opportunities for development of additional products as well as data and analytics offerings.</em>&#8221;</p><blockquote><p><em>Instead of somebody saying, &#8220;I&#8217;m buying these stocks because I think the economy is going to be good, bad, or indifferent,&#8221; you&#8217;ll actually be able to make an investment based specifically on your forecast. You might say the GDP is going to be up 2% or 3% or something other figure, and if it is up that much or more and your analysis is correct, you&#8217;ll get paid based on some pre-agreed upon formula. And if the GDP doesn&#8217;t go up by that amount, or even goes down, you might have to pay in accordance with some prearranged formula. The idiosyncratic nature of investing will be radically different. [&#8230;] Why would you buy the S&amp;P 500 [just] because you think the economy is going to go up, if you can invest in the GDP figure itself?</em> ~~~ Murray Stahl (9.45% MIAX beneficial owner, post-IPO) on the future of exchanges, <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_Q1_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_Q1_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p>While this is an interesting opportunity for MIAX and other exchanges, one thing I think about is: why can&#8217;t any popular contract that MIAX comes up with not essentially then be duplicated by the major exchanges and instantly become more attractive simply due to the existing liquidity at those venues? <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a></p><p>I will note that we have some recent short-term data on how this might play out for future MIAX futures by observing the case of their Hard Red Spring Wheat (HRSW) futures. The MIAX Futures segment, formerly named the Minneapolis Grain Exchange lists lists HRSW futures and options contracts. Incumbent CME started trading the same futures and options on HRSW contracts on April 14, 2025, directly competing with MIAX futures. Despite this, in the six months ended June 30, 2025 (which we should recognize as only accounting for 2.5 months of CME&#8217;s competition re. wheat futures), MIAX Futures reported 2,222,907 agricultural products total contracts traded vs 1,627,528 in the same period in 2024, a 37% <em>increase</em>. This looks good for now, but I think it&#8217;s actually too soon to tell and a 2H2025 vs 2H2024 YoY comparison would be a better indicator once those numbers are available to see if we can get a sense of if the larger CME is making any progress in taking share from MIAX on this front.</p><p>We can see a reverse example of this dynamic in MIAX&#8217;s own attempt to copy CBOE&#8217;s VIX futures by constructing their own SPIKES volatility index and futures in 2019 (<a href="https://pro.thestreet.com/trade-ideas/the-vix-and-spikes-have-similarities-but-there-are-meaningful-differences-16079100">https://pro.thestreet.com/trade-ideas/the-vix-and-spikes-have-similarities-but-there-are-meaningful-differences-16079100</a>); it was ultimately delisted from MIAX in 2023 (I <em>assume</em> due to inferior liquidity), <a href="https://www.miaxglobal.com/alert/2025/01/17/miax-options-exchange-miax-product-feed-will-stop-disseminating-spikes">https://www.miaxglobal.com/alert/2025/01/17/miax-options-exchange-miax-product-feed-will-stop-disseminating-spikes</a>.</p><p>In 2024, MIAX obtained a ten-year exclusive license with Bloomberg Index Services to develop and list proprietary products based on Bloomberg&#8217;s portfolio of indexes, including the Bloomberg 500 Index and Bloomberg US Large Cap Volatility Index. I&#8217;m sure MIAX would like these to be competitive with the popular S&amp;P 500 and VIX futures, though I&#8217;d bet on these seeing a similar unfavorable outcome as the delisted SPIKES for similar reasons (too similar to much more liquid derivatives elsewhere).</p><p>There are different economics between proprietary products versus those listed across multiple exchanges and MIAX appears yet to develop home-run products of the former category. MIAX&#8217;s attempt to compete with the SPX via Bloomberg indexes is a speculative call option with a precedent of failure (and IDK exactly the meaningful difference in setup here between SPIKE-vs-VIX and SPX-vs-Bloomberg).</p><h1>Conclusion</h1><p>As it stands, the Options segment is the only part of MIAX&#8217;s business that consistently generates positive Operating income (this holds across all reported periods in the prospectus):</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nMHN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd514b747-732e-4e08-9d6c-8d0bf62928ed_1083x656.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Without this boost, total Net income for 2024 would have been a loss of -$34.46MM.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OzKo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97cb1bc9-278b-4b31-9072-79f901e6805c_1083x654.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OzKo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97cb1bc9-278b-4b31-9072-79f901e6805c_1083x654.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OzKo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97cb1bc9-278b-4b31-9072-79f901e6805c_1083x654.png 848w, 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thus recorded as an <em>accounting</em> earnings &#8220;loss&#8221; in addition to recording unrealized losses on remaining locked Pyth tokens, but was still ultimately a $16.239MM <em>cash</em> profit), we can get a sense of the business valuation vs the post-IPO expected EV ($1,306.872MM) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a> and marketcap ($1,562.018MM)... </p><p>EV/Revenue = 1.00x; 1.10x when included Pyth sales (which, again, was an <em>accounting</em> loss).</p><p>EV/EBITDA = 28.20x (nominal reported EBITDA).</p><p>EV/adjEBITDA = 7.35x (based on reported EBITDA and adjusting for gain/loss in puttable stock and warrants, loss on sale of Pyth tokens, unrealized derivatives gains/losses, and unrealized gain from a re-measurement of TISE acquisition equity); 16.40x when including Pyth token sales <em>accounting</em> losses.</p><p>MC/FCF = 32.07x; 19.24x when including Pyth token cash proceeds.</p><p>These numbers may seem cheap or reasonable vs the major exchanges depending on what multiples you&#8217;re looking at&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bIyR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa84f9ac8-883a-4b89-b99c-6b3e29af2d74_545x175.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bIyR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa84f9ac8-883a-4b89-b99c-6b3e29af2d74_545x175.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bIyR!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa84f9ac8-883a-4b89-b99c-6b3e29af2d74_545x175.png 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>&#8230; but, as mentioned, we should keep in mind that MIAX doesn&#8217;t enjoy same kinds of strong competitive moats as the majors (ie. liquidity feedback loops from sheer scale or recognition MIAX as the &#8220;standard&#8221; venue for any popular proprietary products).</p><p>BTW, via the early ERPs for insider exchange members, I calculate their average cost basis to be around $5/sh (vs the $20 planned IPO price). Just another thing to keep in mind.</p><p>.</p><p>Overall, I'd say I'm not too keen on the business as a whole, but am open to hearing a bull case for it. They are trying interesting little niche things, but it&#8217;s just that those things haven&#8217;t seemed to do much for their bottom line so far.</p><p>.</p><p>I&#8217;m no expert on exchanges &#8212;just made this post because Murray Stahl, whose ideas I always find interesting, is a major shareholder and I&#8217;ve not seen much written about MIAX elsewhere (also because someone asked me about it)&#8212; and this is mostly based on jumping around MIAX&#8217;s IPO prospectus, so if there are critical value signs that I&#8217;m just totally missing on this name that others are looking at, do feel free to let me know in the comments.</p><p>.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! 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I like Murray Stahl and if the exchange can get the newer segments to profitability and approach anything near the marketcap of the incumbents, then a 1% position would still be very significant in a 50-100X&#8217;er.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Though I&#8217;m pretty sure funds contributed to clearinghouse guaranty funds usually can earn interest at some nominal interest rate. </p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that banks also have to hold capital against their own clearinghouse contributions and clearinghouses themselves often have separate net capital requirements that members must maintain outside of the guaranty fund, so there&#8217;s a multiplicative cost to them being a member to each additional clearinghouse.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>All equities in the US clear through the centralized DTCC which acts as the central counterparty and clearing house for nearly all broker-to-broker equity trades in the US (<a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dtcc.asp">https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dtcc.asp</a>), so exchanges do not need to maintain their own clearinghouse funds to mitigate default risk for equities. This is not the case for futures and derivatives and the major futures &amp; derivatives exchanges operate their own dedicated clearinghouse services (that may also be used by other exchanges).</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>IDK if I&#8217;ll go into this too much more, but I&#8217;ll just note that while MIAX uses DTCC/NSCC for equities clearing/settlement, Options Clearing Corporation (OCC) for options, and even 3rd party futures clearinghouse services for some futures contracts through their Dorman Trading Futures Commission Merchant (FCM), they also run their own clearinghouses (MIAX Futures Clearing (margin-based) and MIAX Derivatives Exchange (MIAXdx) Clearing (fully collateralized)) for their more specialized products.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I keep seeing comments around the internet claiming the use of em-dashes (these things: &#8220;&#8212;&#8221;) are how one can tell if something was written by an LLM, yet I&#8217;ve never actually seen an LLM use them. BTW, these are not some new grammer invention by LLMs and I&#8217;ve always properly used them as a way to mark digressions that that are beyond that which might otherwise simply call for parentheses, yet brief enough to not require it&#8217;s own footnote. </p><p>Are only androids allowed to use salad forks for salads?</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Calculating for Citadel Securities, Strategic Investments I, Inc., Susquehanna Securities, and Wolverine Holdings, the vast amounts of their ownership stakes came fro the ERPs: 88% for Citadel, 100% (I think) for SII (though they recently sold off a lot of their stake, so I can&#8217;t totally calculate based on the Beneficial Owners table), 62% for Susquehanna, and 66% for Wolverine Holdings. </p><p> </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>As an aside, these tokens were actually originally custodian at the now infamous FTX crypto broker and were made inaccessible when the firm went into bankruptcy and the Pyth Foundation had to get special permission from the FTX bankruptcy court to remit the tokens back to BSX.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I&#8217;d take MIAX&#8217;s Pyth venture more seriously if were part of a longer-duration or on-going token earning agreement with the Pyth Foundation, included more/most of their other data feeds to the network (not just the BSX&#8217;s Pearl Equities data as is currently the case), as well as started earning salable tokens from other DeFi data feed networks like Chainlink, API3, etc. That is, something(s) that made it more than a one-off contract with an uncertain future.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I find this accounting particularity annoying as well, but you can hear better-articulated complaints on that front here (<a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/warren-buffett-decries-accounting-rule-change-that-has-made-a-mess-of-berkshires-earnings-142751564.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/warren-buffett-decries-accounting-rule-change-that-has-made-a-mess-of-berkshires-earnings-142751564.html</a>)</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>MIAX estimates that the net proceeds from the IPO will be around $268.3MM, assuming IPO price of $20.00/sh. If the underwriters exercise their option to purchase additional shares in full, the net proceeds could increase to approximately $310.2 million.</p><p>MIAX intends &#8220;<em>to use the net proceeds from this offering to repay the 2029 Senior Secured Term Loan in full and related premium and for working capital and general corporate purposes, including to satisfy tax withholding and remittance obligations.</em>&#8221;</p><p>As of June 30, 2025, MIAX had $140MM in borrowings outstanding under the 2029 Senior Secured Loan Agreement. There is also a $35MM premium that would have to be paid in connection with the early repayment of the 2029 Senior Secured Term Loan. So, in total, $175MM would be used for debt repayment.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.thetradenews.com/iex-introduces-new-fees-for-real-time-market-data-as-a-fair-and-reasonable-form-of-cost-recovery/">https://www.thetradenews.com/iex-introduces-new-fees-for-real-time-market-data-as-a-fair-and-reasonable-form-of-cost-recovery/</a>. </p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/files/rules/sro/iex/2021/34-93883.pdf">https://www.sec.gov/files/rules/sro/iex/2021/34-93883.pdf</a></p><p>Compare IEX&#8217;s flat $500- and $2500-per-month fees with those charged by the NYSE around that same time (<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220308232922/https://www.nyse.com/publicdocs/nyse/data/NYSE_Market_Data_Pricing.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20220308232922/https://www.nyse.com/publicdocs/nyse/data/NYSE_Market_Data_Pricing.pdf</a>) which have &#8220;access&#8221; and per-user components to the pricing. Notice that the comparable NYSE access fees alone (NYSE OpenBook vs IEX&#8217;s DEEP feed) were 2x the proposed IEX price. Add in non-display feeds for algos and redistribution fees for the right to display data to clients and the comparable feed from NYSE costs 5x-6x that from IEX. For more info on market data feeds, see <a href="https://www.exegy.com/market-data-fees-planning-infrastructure/">https://www.exegy.com/market-data-fees-planning-infrastructure/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Eg&#8230; &#8220;<em>While some studies advocate that consolidation leads to enhanced liquidity and reduced transaction costs, others argue that it may result in monopolistic structures, reducing competition and potentially harming market participants.</em>&#8221; <a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12186875/">https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12186875/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The one thing I would note here is that, other than the profitable Options segment, none of the other business segments have been actually operating under MIAX management for longer than starting in 2020, so one could make the case that maybe these segments are about to meet some profitable inflection in operations. Though I also feel like five years isn&#8217;t that short of a time, noting that some of these other businesses (BSX &amp; TISE in the International segment and Dorman Trading &amp; MIAXdx on the Futures side) existed as independent operations for periods much longer than 5yrs before MIAX acquired them.</p><p>I&#8217;d also note that, while the operating losses for the Equities segment have been stable over the reported periods, 2022-2024, the losses for the Futures and International segments have actually been growing.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>ie. they declined in market value since the last time they recorded them vs whenever they actually sold them</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Again, noting that $140MM of MIAX&#8217;s debt is planned to be paid off using a portion of the IPO proceeds, leaving just $1.503MM of notes payable and convertible loans of $4.893MM.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[($LB) LandBridge: An exchange trading floor of the Delaware basin]]></title><description><![CDATA[My 2 cents on LB's 273,000 surface acres and their H2O to I/O aspirations]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/lb-landbridge-holdings-an-exchange</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/lb-landbridge-holdings-an-exchange</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2025 12:37:09 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KpDb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F76b04d93-fb4c-4f5e-9dff-515704526311_992x854.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>TLDR</h1><p>If the famous oil royalty company, Texas Pacific Land Corp (TPL), is the &#8220;ETF of the Permian basin&#8221;, then LandBridge (LB) is an exchange trading floor of the Delaware. LB owns uniquely positioned surface acreage in the Delaware basin and has an integrated relationship with WaterBridge (WB) midstream water management, which shares the same management team and majority owner. The both companies benefit from WB/LB&#8217;s ability to provide oil companies &#8212;and other water users and recyclers&#8212; with a path for a more efficient permitting and development process in the Delaware basin by virtue of this relationship (vs other water pipeline networks in the area that may need to negotiate with multiple land owners during the permitting/development process). </p><p>WB collects fees on the volumes of water transported, treated, and/or disposed of for customers through their pipelines and at their facilities, while LB collects resource sales, easements, and surface use royalties on water sourced from, infrastructure atop of, and waste water disposed of on their lands &#8212;usually from WB <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>. The positioning and scale of LB&#8217;s acreage also acts as a call option on all other manner of surface use demand that may require water, energy, and acreage in the Delaware basin. </p><p>However, IDK that, at a high level, the growth expectations baked into the current price are a great bet to take and a lot of the near- to mid-term price action seems to depend on a tug of war between Jevon&#8217;s Paradox driving greater total data center capacity and infrastructure demand vs innovation-driven LLM kWh-per-token deflation &#8212;with LB longs rooting for the former. </p><p>I&#8217;d be a more willing buyer in the sub-$55/sh range at the moment.</p><p>.</p><p>While I own a good amount of shares <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>, I&#8217;m not actually too certain that the stock is a particularly great buy right now. However, I thought it would be good time to set down some thoughts on the name while the year is just beginning and LB set to have their earning call tomorrow. (There&#8217;s always more to learn, questions to ask, and threads to pull, but just wanted to convert some of my major existing notes from spreadsheet cells and textfile notes-to-self into something more centralized/structured and will add more down the road).</p><h1>Business</h1><p>I think LB&#8217;s advantage can be summed up as owning uniquely positioned tracts of land that are set up to act as a (maintenance) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> capex-light platform, connected by a large network of water handling pipeline operations via coordination with LB&#8217;s sister company, WaterBridge (WB), to service the fracking industry (and any other type of infrastructure that requires cheap and/or proximate access to land, energy, and water) in the Delaware basin. Both LB and WB share the same management team and are both majority owned by Five Point Energy LLC.</p><p>WB is the largest pure-play water midstream company in the US and operates a large-scale network of pipelines and other infrastructure in the Delaware basin <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>. LB has a network advantage in the Delaware basin, vs other acreage owners that might compete with selling/leasing resources or acreage for similar use cases, that stems from LB and WB&#8217;s integrated operations due to their shared management team and ownership. WB collects fees on the volumes of water transported, treated, and/or disposed of for customers through their pipelines and facilities, while LB collects resource sales (eg. of brackish water and caliche<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>), easements fees, and surface use royalties on resources extracted from, infrastructure atop of, and waste water disposed of on their lands.</p><p>If TPL is the &#8220;ETF of the Permian basin&#8221; <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a>, then I look at LB as an exchange (of the Delaware sub-basin), where the exchange extracts volume-based fees on all operations that cross through the platform/acreage, the trading floor network/connectivity operations are handled by WaterBridge <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a>, and all the various easement users, resource buyers, and royalty payers are the exchange members.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KpDb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F76b04d93-fb4c-4f5e-9dff-515704526311_992x854.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KpDb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F76b04d93-fb4c-4f5e-9dff-515704526311_992x854.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(Base image source: <a href="https://www.sec.gov/divisions/marketreg/marketinfo/nysemi.htm">https://www.sec.gov/divisions/marketreg/marketinfo/nysemi.htm</a>)</em></p><p>Compare this to a map of WB&#8217;s developing pipeline network to get a sense of the <em>breadth</em> of the network that LB will be a platform for:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!644X!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb5c4449-5c91-405d-85ec-efea2fb11449_416x508.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(&#8220;WaterBridge Assets Map&#8221;, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312524172433/d752700d424b4.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312524172433/d752700d424b4.htm</a>; note that this older map does not include the Wolf Bone Ranch property, acquired in December 2024, that sits near the eastern corner of Reeves county, below the Ward county line which can be seen on pg.12 in the more up-to-date prospectus <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312525014364/d898161d424b3.htm">here</a>).</em></p><p><em>(For future reference, LB&#8217;s convention is to refer to the acreage north of the lateral southern New Mexico - Texas border as their &#8220;Northern position&#8221;, the acreage within the horizontal bounds approximately traced by the borders of upper and lower Winkler county as their &#8220;Stateline position&#8221;, and everything below Loving/Winkler southern border as the &#8220;Southern position&#8221;)</em></p><p>Note that the blue outlined area of mutual interest (&#8220;AMI&#8221;) is shared with the popular royalty company, Texas Pacific Land Company (TPL), which owns the non-LB acreage in the checkerboard pattern within that area. We&#8217;ll see in a few other maps that show that this area at the intersection of the Eddy, Lea, and Loving county lines gets a lot of use in terms of water handling operations.</p><p>.</p><p>By the way, just because the northern network looks sparse, it does not mean that it cannot service a lot of the surrounding &#8212;or distant&#8212; acreage. <em>(The irrelevancy of contiguous physical connection when it comes to getting produced water from the wellhead to a pipeline will also be evident when we look at the pipeline maps of WB&#8217;s comps in the area; contracted acreage that a pipeline network may service need not be physically connected to the main lines themselves)</em>.</p><p>Aside from selling water to fracking operations in the basin, one of LB&#8217;s main operations for which they partner with WB comes from handling &#8220;produced water&#8221; for oil &amp; gas operators. Produced water is the industrial waste byproduct of fracking and oil extraction that comes from both fracking &#8220;flowback&#8221; and naturally occurring water in geological formations that must be properly disposed of <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a>. After separation from the extracted oil and gas at the wellhead, it is collected and stored in tanks on site. It can then be collected and transported to water treatment facilities (or pipeline connection points) by water tanker trucks. An increasingly common trend in the Delaware basin is for storage tanks to be directly connected to small gathering lines (think of branches in a tree) that all converge from the wells in an area (think of these as the leaves) to the main pipeline (think of this as the tree trunk) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> &#8212;it really just depends on cost and demand for tanker trucks. However it&#8217;s transported, the waste water ultimately ends up at a facility to either recycle/reuse or treat/dispose of it (typically via injection back into the earth), hopefully on LB acreage where they can collect a royalty per barrel handled (think of these like the ends of a tree&#8217;s roots).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YTSG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff48bb0f9-594d-4dff-8280-2d273ec7bfb7_690x361.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YTSG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff48bb0f9-594d-4dff-8280-2d273ec7bfb7_690x361.jpeg 424w, 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Given WB and LB&#8217;s close integration via shared management team and existing agreements, LB also benefits from those network effects as they are able to coordinate development plans. (I think of the relationship between Diamondback Energy (E&amp;P) and Viper Energy (mineral rights owner) as being somewhat analogous). For example, one of LB&#8217;s biggest drivers of expected 2025 EBITDA is the increased surface use royalties from the handling of produced water expected from a long-term partnership struck in August 2023 between WB and E&amp;P company, Devon Energy, where WB will handle all of Devon&#8217;s produced-water within a large area of the Delaware basin, which will ultimately result in increased use of LB lands on which WB assets handle produced-water treatment and disposal. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a> </p><p>We can see the extent to which the other water handling pipelines in the area (NGL LP and Aris Water Systems) avoid &#8212;or overlap&#8212; each other by looking at a map of their networks in the area.</p><div 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5-oV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971383ad-8b42-49e9-8390-4b9620caaf4a_959x690.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5-oV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971383ad-8b42-49e9-8390-4b9620caaf4a_959x690.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5-oV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971383ad-8b42-49e9-8390-4b9620caaf4a_959x690.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5-oV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971383ad-8b42-49e9-8390-4b9620caaf4a_959x690.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5-oV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971383ad-8b42-49e9-8390-4b9620caaf4a_959x690.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5-oV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971383ad-8b42-49e9-8390-4b9620caaf4a_959x690.png" width="959" height="690" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5-oV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971383ad-8b42-49e9-8390-4b9620caaf4a_959x690.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5-oV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971383ad-8b42-49e9-8390-4b9620caaf4a_959x690.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5-oV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F971383ad-8b42-49e9-8390-4b9620caaf4a_959x690.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://irp.cdn-website.com/3038c594/files/uploaded/NGL_EC_Deck_3Q25.pdf">https://irp.cdn-website.com/3038c594/files/uploaded/NGL_EC_Deck_3Q25.pdf</a>; <a href="https://eic.energy/uploads/aris-water-solutions-eic-fireside_vf.pdf">https://eic.energy/uploads/aris-water-solutions-eic-fireside_vf.pdf</a>)</em></p><p>Here&#8217;s those same maps overlapped with WB&#8217;s network development plans (and LB&#8217;s surface acreage) for visual reference (it&#8217;s a bit blurry because of the overlapping and my bad photoshop skills, but we can see how WB is planning to move into the gaps of the other players&#8217; existing pipeline network and contracted acreage):</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>NGL owns about 50% of the lands on which their facilities are located <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a>. Based on other hints from NGL&#8217;s 2024 10K, we can assume that the NGL-owned land is mostly on the Texas side &#8212;or at least that what they&#8217;d like&#8212; as the company recently sold acreage in both Nex Mexico counties of Eddy and Lea the basin <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a>. Meanwhile, if one examines the NGL pipeline network and facilities that lie right below the Eddy and Lea county lines, it appears that those NGL assets rest upon the LB/TPL AMI. </p><p>Likewise for the Aris asset map, for which I could find no evidence that they own any of their facility acreage, they plainly mention in their Q2 2024 earnings call that they &#8220;<em>have relationships with landowners like Texas Pacific [&#8230;] where we have the ability to go ahead and permit on TPL land and then drill as needed.</em>&#8221; Conversely, the WB/LB relationship gives the added advantage of making it easier for customers to work with WB as the company can coordinate with LB for planning, permitting, and facility development, vs other pipeline operators that do not have as integrated a relationship with the various surface owners they must negotiate with to host their facilities.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>[O]n the WaterBridge side, continue to see good commercial traction. I think that's largely because of the land and the pore space access that we have via LandBridge. And I think conversely, to LandBridge's benefit here, <strong>we're seeing the synergies of that WaterBridge relationship given the fact that all of these commercial wins WaterBridge is achieving are just working in the benefit of LandBridge</strong> in the form of those [surface use] royalties [for produced water disposal]. And so part of the thesis from the get-go out of the gate was the water company and the land company really serve each other well.</em>&#8221; ~~~ LB CFO, Scott McNeely, LB Q3 2024 Earnings Call</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EIGN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5a769aef-0234-4479-b0f9-794292e5e13c_3204x2129.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EIGN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5a769aef-0234-4479-b0f9-794292e5e13c_3204x2129.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>One thing I&#8217;d point out is that Aris&#8217; various water management facilities are mainly situated in the New Mexico side of the basin, whereas we can see from WB&#8217;s pipeline map that WB will offer greater capacity for New Mexico operators to access the less-regulated Texas jurisdiction for water sourcing and disposal by plotting LB acreage and WB facilities on the Texas side of the New Mexico border &#8212;as NGL appears to be doing via their pipelines that extend into Texas&#8217; Reeves and Andrews counties.</p><p>.</p><p>Aside from the benefit of WB&#8217;s network effects, much of LB&#8217;s acreage also have a unique intersection of advantageous geological characteristics that make their positions particularly well suited to serve operators in the Delaware basin.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JbFT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4db57427-2960-4159-aa68-ee6440334b1b_1774x701.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset image2-full-screen"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JbFT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4db57427-2960-4159-aa68-ee6440334b1b_1774x701.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JbFT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4db57427-2960-4159-aa68-ee6440334b1b_1774x701.png 848w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>As can be seen from the middle images in the composite above, LB acreage is nearby to areas in the Delaware basin that have&#8230;</p><p>+ High O&amp;G estimated ultimate recovery (EUR) (representing the total amount of oil and natural gas expected to be recovered over the life of a well) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a>, thus attracting O&amp;G operators.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UdaX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffd4cca53-701f-445f-8a26-2f94609d4665_584x212.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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The casing of the steel pipe is targeted into the zones that consist of gas and oil. The fluid for fracturing is injected into the well, and this is when the targeted area will not be able to absorb as much fluid as it is being injected. When this becomes the case, then the targeted formation begins to fracture or crack.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="The process of fracking involves drilling a well and inserting a steel pipe into the wellbore. The casing of the steel pipe is targeted into the zones that consist of gas and oil. The fluid for fracturing is injected into the well, and this is when the targeted area will not be able to absorb as much fluid as it is being injected. 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When this becomes the case, then the targeted formation begins to fracture or crack." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oytw!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f796eb1-3c1e-4165-9b91-deba0e32f712_960x951.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oytw!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f796eb1-3c1e-4165-9b91-deba0e32f712_960x951.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oytw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f796eb1-3c1e-4165-9b91-deba0e32f712_960x951.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oytw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f796eb1-3c1e-4165-9b91-deba0e32f712_960x951.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">https://energiesmedia.com/10-best-performing-tips-for-successful-hydraulic-fracturing/</figcaption></figure></div><p>+ High water-to-oil ratios (WOR), where the geology of the area results in oil wells that create high levels of produced water byproduct relative to the barrels of oil extracted. This creates demand for water management services such as those offered by WB/LB to take away and recycle of dispose of this waste water. The WOR and total absolute amount of produced water from O&amp;G activity the Permian basin has been rising over time and this trend is projected to continue. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a> Additionally, as wells remain in production, they can be drilled to extend horizontally (laterally) &#8212;as well as bend and curve as needed&#8212; and these longer laterals require more water for fracking as the fluid has a larger surface area to cover to fracture, thus requiring a greater volume of water to create the necessary pressure.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUG2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64f0525a-099c-4f72-9db0-a0210daf08db_480x303.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUG2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64f0525a-099c-4f72-9db0-a0210daf08db_480x303.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUG2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64f0525a-099c-4f72-9db0-a0210daf08db_480x303.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUG2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64f0525a-099c-4f72-9db0-a0210daf08db_480x303.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUG2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64f0525a-099c-4f72-9db0-a0210daf08db_480x303.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUG2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64f0525a-099c-4f72-9db0-a0210daf08db_480x303.png" width="706" height="445.6625" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/64f0525a-099c-4f72-9db0-a0210daf08db_480x303.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:303,&quot;width&quot;:480,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:706,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Produced Water Volumes by Shale Play, 2017-30&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Produced Water Volumes by Shale Play, 2017-30" title="Produced Water Volumes by Shale Play, 2017-30" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUG2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64f0525a-099c-4f72-9db0-a0210daf08db_480x303.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUG2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64f0525a-099c-4f72-9db0-a0210daf08db_480x303.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUG2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64f0525a-099c-4f72-9db0-a0210daf08db_480x303.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUG2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64f0525a-099c-4f72-9db0-a0210daf08db_480x303.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://rbnenergy.com/coming-around-again-permian-produced-water-posing-challenges-and-offering-opportunities">https://rbnenergy.com/coming-around-again-permian-produced-water-posing-challenges-and-offering-opportunities</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>&#8230; Meanwhile, LB acreage itself sits atop geology with high capacity for waste water disposal, having both high porosity (lots of empty space existing in the formations) and permeability (water can move through / be injected easily into the space). These nearby or underlying geological advantages are all mentioned in their prospectus, which you can find <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312524172433/d752700d424b4.htm">here</a> (or <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312525014364/d898161d424b3.htm">here</a>, which is more recent and includes a more up-to-date map of LB&#8217;s expanded acreage in Reeves and Lea counties).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTk6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f11a179-3fd7-4eb3-8a1f-fcad79e6ec26_1069x766.svg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTk6!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f11a179-3fd7-4eb3-8a1f-fcad79e6ec26_1069x766.svg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTk6!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f11a179-3fd7-4eb3-8a1f-fcad79e6ec26_1069x766.svg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTk6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f11a179-3fd7-4eb3-8a1f-fcad79e6ec26_1069x766.svg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTk6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f11a179-3fd7-4eb3-8a1f-fcad79e6ec26_1069x766.svg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTk6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f11a179-3fd7-4eb3-8a1f-fcad79e6ec26_1069x766.svg" width="533" height="382.53588516746413" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6f11a179-3fd7-4eb3-8a1f-fcad79e6ec26_1069x766.svg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:150,&quot;width&quot;:209,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:533,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTk6!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f11a179-3fd7-4eb3-8a1f-fcad79e6ec26_1069x766.svg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTk6!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f11a179-3fd7-4eb3-8a1f-fcad79e6ec26_1069x766.svg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTk6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f11a179-3fd7-4eb3-8a1f-fcad79e6ec26_1069x766.svg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTk6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f11a179-3fd7-4eb3-8a1f-fcad79e6ec26_1069x766.svg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">https://dec.alaska.gov/spar/csp/FAQ/intro-to-groundwater</figcaption></figure></div><p>Something that is not mentioned in the prospectus is the unique thickness of aquifer formations underlying LB acreage, granting the company access to large volumes of (brackish) water; LB&#8217;s Stateline position sitting atop the the Capitan Reef Complex minor aquifer within the major Pecos aquifer <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a>. It may be interesting to compare this aquifer map (below) to the map of TPL and LB acreage displayed earlier in this post. LB covers some of the thickest sections of the aquifer (ie. higher water yield potential) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-19" href="#footnote-19" target="_self">19</a> in Winkler county along the NM-TX border at some of the lowest elevations (giving those sections a greater rate of recharge as water flows from formation outcrops and zones of higher elevations to lower ones). <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-20" href="#footnote-20" target="_self">20</a> </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2n4S!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a90d1b1-d28e-4138-821d-7893a8e51a15_646x531.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.twdb.texas.gov/publications/reports/numbered_reports/doc/R382_PecosValley.pdf">https://www.twdb.texas.gov/publications/reports/numbered_reports/doc/R382_PecosValley.pdf</a>, Figure 6-5; I didn&#8217;t want to just dump a bunch of maps in this post &#8212;any more than I already have&#8212; but I also found the section &#8220;6.1.4 Structural geometry&#8221; of this study to be very illustrative, for those interested in seeing the underlying cross-sectional shapes of the geology</em>).</p><p>As mentioned earlier, LB&#8217;s Stateline and Northern positions also create the most direct opportunities for New Mexico operators to take advantage of the NM-TX regulatory arbitrage arising from the relative laxity of regulations on the Texas side of the border (as opposed to New Mexico operators trying to gets those same resource infrastructure projects permitted and developed on their own side of the border).</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>In contrast to New Mexico, Texas generally provides a more favorable regulatory environment for produced water permitting. <strong>Between January 1, 2021 and March 31, 2024, the Texas produced water permitting process has taken an average of 171 days from initial submission to approval for produced water handling facilities located in the Delaware Basin (as defined by the EIA&#8217;s Permian Sub-Basin boundary), compared to an average of 655 days in New Mexico for produced water handling facilities located in the Delaware Basin over the same time period. Furthermore, we believe that New Mexico regulatory agencies have been less likely to approve shallow geological produced water handling wells.</strong> [&#8230;] The combination of favorable geological characteristics and a comparatively less restrictive regulatory environment drives increased demand for produced water handling facilities on the Texas side of the Texas-New Mexico state border. [&#8230;] <strong>New Mexico also presents a more restrictive regulatory and hydrological environment for sourcing brackish water used for oil and natural gas well completion activity. As a result, much of the brackish water supplied to the oil and natural gas industry in New Mexico is sourced from Texas</strong>. Our Stateline and Northern Positions contain significant underground brackish water sources from which brackish water can be produced for sale to companies that deliver this water to E&amp;P companies in New Mexico for use in their drilling and completion activities.</em>&#8221; ~~~ LB prospectus, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312524172433/d752700d424b4.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312524172433/d752700d424b4.htm</a></p></blockquote><p>(<em>This regulatory differential may soon shrink a bit due to New Mexico&#8217;s greater amount of federal lands </em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-21" href="#footnote-21" target="_self">21</a><em> which will be affected by Trump&#8217;s recent executive orders related to US energy policy which 1] directs agencies to review regulations burdening domestic energy resource development as and 2] orders the expedited permitting for energy projects deemed essential for national security </em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-22" href="#footnote-22" target="_self">22</a><em>. This differential compression may be offset by an overall increase in drilling activity in the Permian as new energy secretary Chris Wright works to enact Trump&#8217;s &#8220;drill, baby, drill&#8221; policy agenda, which in terms of what can actually be done looks to be more like &#8220;deregulate, baby, deregulate&#8221; </em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-23" href="#footnote-23" target="_self">23</a><em>. The President is also looking to decrease taxes for the O&amp;G industry and expand LNG export capacity <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-24" href="#footnote-24" target="_self">24</a> in what appears to be a way to keep operators profitable while he and Treasury Secretary Bessent work to bring oil price to <a href="https://x.com/Josh_Young_1/status/1897037570896474553">the $50/bbl level</a>.</em>)</p><p>Taking the exchange analogy, LB&#8217;s Texas acreage positioning along the NM border combined with WB&#8217;s pipeline network between the states, making it the closest and most direct route to access less-regulatory-burdened water sourcing and disposal sites in Texas, is akin to how the US OTC Markets exchange acts as the cheapest and least-regulatory-burdened route for foreign companies to access US capital markets (&#8220;capital markets&#8221; in this case being water, land, and disposal pore space). One difference being that &#8212;unlike the greatly reduced subset of total US investors/capital that are willing and able to invest in OTC securities&#8212; the water sourcing and disposal geology on LB&#8217;s Stateline acreage is as good, if not better, than anywhere else in the Delaware basin. That is, unlike the less-efficient execution and lower liquidity of US OTC markets vs other major exchanges, LB&#8217;s border acreage lies in the more regulation-lax environment of Texas (ie. quick transaction &#8220;execution&#8221;) and sits atop some of the thickest parts of the Capitan aquifer for water sourcing as well as above high capacity pore space for water disposal (ie. high &#8220;liquidity&#8221;).</p><p>LB acreage is also located in areas with lower population density (ie. lower NIMBY-ism). The ability for LB to provide projects with access to energy and water all on low-NIMBY acreage is mentioned by Five Point CEO (and LB Chairman), David Capobianco, in a recent interview <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rab11GilV3g">here</a>: </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>[F]or instance Loving County, if it were a country itself, it would be a top 10 or 15 oil producing Nation. It&#8217;s got a population of about 130, to put it in context. So there are massive <strong>swaths of land with very few people and that&#8217;s unique because nobody cares about seeing your data center, your water source is not taking from population center water sources, and your power can be built and developed for you on your own site</strong> [eg. via off-grid gas turbine].</em>&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>On the topic of data centers, Texas &#8212;with it&#8217;s cheap energy, large area, and business-friendly regulatory environment&#8212; is presently the second largest market for data center development in the US behind North Virginia <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-25" href="#footnote-25" target="_self">25</a>  <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-26" href="#footnote-26" target="_self">26</a>, the latter of which is seeing increasing community push-back on additional data centers being constructed in the state <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-27" href="#footnote-27" target="_self">27</a>. Note that the vast majority of data centers in Texas are in the north Texas Dallas / Fort Worth (DFW) area, due to existing robust power and telecom/fiber infrastructure (to actually get energy in and data out of the facilities), proximity to other businesses (ie. existing and potential customers), proximity to universities (ie. potential employees), as well as hosting the DFW International Airport (one of the largest in the US) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-28" href="#footnote-28" target="_self">28</a> &#8212;all things that are lacking in the counties of LB&#8217;s west Texas Stateline position. </p><p>However, as the number and scale of data centers in Texas continue to grow, they will increasingly come into competition with residents for energy, space, and water resources if they continue to be built in the DFW area and the prediction that LB longs would also be betting on is that this is a politically untenable situation in the long run and that new data centers will ultimately have to move off-grid to directly draw power from natural gas lines into co-located turbines in, say, the Permian <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-29" href="#footnote-29" target="_self">29</a>. There are a few data centers in the west Texas area where LB operates and one of those few &#8212;a data center owned by, crypto miner, Core Scientific&#8212; is actually located on LB acreage near Pecos city in Reeves county (the blue (1) dot nearest the New Mexico corner border in the map below) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-30" href="#footnote-30" target="_self">30</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D9Ug!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F209dcdf9-cc9a-497c-8f11-7513953f7517_572x486.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!D9Ug!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F209dcdf9-cc9a-497c-8f11-7513953f7517_572x486.png" width="572" height="486" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">https://www.datacentermap.com/usa/texas/</figcaption></figure></div><p>A final note: LB makes relatively little revenues from ownership of oil and gas royalties. This translates into lower sensitivity to oil and gas prices; unlike other land owners in the Permian like TPL or VNOM, LB is more focused on volumes / activity. This can be a double-edged sword that hurts returns if oil prices rise (though they&#8217;d benefit indirectly from the likely subsequent increase in drilling activity for Permian operators), but dulls the impact of any down-swings in oil prices (such as those that might come if President Trump is successful in lowering oil prices and increasing total hydrocarbon production in the US).</p><h1>Success mode</h1><p>Here is the full suite of the company&#8217;s aspired use cases for their land (of these aspired use cases, I&#8217;ve circled the types that I know LB currently hosts):</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Br19!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F997cf47f-6f89-45d9-8e98-7ac1096b204a_807x514.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Br19!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F997cf47f-6f89-45d9-8e98-7ac1096b204a_807x514.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Br19!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F997cf47f-6f89-45d9-8e98-7ac1096b204a_807x514.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Br19!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F997cf47f-6f89-45d9-8e98-7ac1096b204a_807x514.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Br19!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F997cf47f-6f89-45d9-8e98-7ac1096b204a_807x514.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Br19!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F997cf47f-6f89-45d9-8e98-7ac1096b204a_807x514.png" width="862" height="549.0309789343247" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/997cf47f-6f89-45d9-8e98-7ac1096b204a_807x514.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:514,&quot;width&quot;:807,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:862,&quot;bytes&quot;:600659,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Much of the bullish narrative around LB stems from the anticipation of data centers being built in the Permian (for the various reasons already mentioned) and LB being able to capitalize in their massive needs for continuous access to cheap energy, water cooling, and surface acreage. The term &#8220;data center&#8221; is frequently mentioned in the company prospectus and at every earnings call since the company&#8217;s 2H2024 IPO. Currently, LB is in the initial phases of possibly hosting a single data center for another Five Point sister company, Powered Land Partners <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-31" href="#footnote-31" target="_self">31</a>, but management has alluded to 5-6 other data center projects that may be interested in developing with LB <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-32" href="#footnote-32" target="_self">32</a>.</p><p>The current overall trends seems to be in favor of LB&#8217;s data center growth thesis. We can examine the projections for the various public AI-related companies and see how they intend to significantly increase their spending on data center capex for 2025 relative to the previous years since OpenAI launched ChatGPT:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oo0m!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11a9203d-f651-4838-929e-eba292e9eef4_1301x112.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oo0m!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11a9203d-f651-4838-929e-eba292e9eef4_1301x112.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oo0m!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11a9203d-f651-4838-929e-eba292e9eef4_1301x112.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oo0m!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11a9203d-f651-4838-929e-eba292e9eef4_1301x112.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oo0m!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11a9203d-f651-4838-929e-eba292e9eef4_1301x112.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oo0m!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11a9203d-f651-4838-929e-eba292e9eef4_1301x112.png" width="1200" height="103.30514988470408" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/11a9203d-f651-4838-929e-eba292e9eef4_1301x112.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:112,&quot;width&quot;:1301,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:31679,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/155973061?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11a9203d-f651-4838-929e-eba292e9eef4_1301x112.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oo0m!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11a9203d-f651-4838-929e-eba292e9eef4_1301x112.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oo0m!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11a9203d-f651-4838-929e-eba292e9eef4_1301x112.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oo0m!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11a9203d-f651-4838-929e-eba292e9eef4_1301x112.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Oo0m!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F11a9203d-f651-4838-929e-eba292e9eef4_1301x112.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>Valuation</h1><p>Here I have LB valued at various multiples (including the current implied multiple) to management&#8217;s 2025 EBITDA projections, with my assumptions noted, with and without an additional expectation value of future data center projects that are already prospectively looking at LB acreage for development. We also can see the implied growth rates for those price targets such as would be required for a simple DCF to reach the same price conclusions. </p><p><em>(Here DC is short for data center)</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q8PD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d7e5c68-541a-41eb-8f57-d5aada67226b_1863x259.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q8PD!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d7e5c68-541a-41eb-8f57-d5aada67226b_1863x259.png 424w, 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class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X036!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb1ae3afe-8321-4604-b871-926819b477c8_1866x443.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X036!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb1ae3afe-8321-4604-b871-926819b477c8_1866x443.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X036!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb1ae3afe-8321-4604-b871-926819b477c8_1866x443.png 848w, 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Note that, while I put a 6yr estimate on all of these facilities being built, President Trump has made AI dominance and energy infrastructure development key elements of his policy goals and intends to use deregulation a key lever towards those ends. </p><p>To look for an example to demonstrate the magnitude and uses cases for which red-tape-cutting could speed energy infrastructure development, consider the data center that was built by Elon Musk (apparently without first getting the proper permitting and circumventing local government approval) to power X/Twitter&#8217;s Grok AI. Rather than using a connection to the local electrical grid, the facility was initially built to rely primarily on gas turbines and was built in under a month <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-33" href="#footnote-33" target="_self">33</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fKao!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fbc1bc6-d05f-4cb9-b497-9d2a39822916_1868x382.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fKao!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fbc1bc6-d05f-4cb9-b497-9d2a39822916_1868x382.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fKao!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fbc1bc6-d05f-4cb9-b497-9d2a39822916_1868x382.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fKao!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fbc1bc6-d05f-4cb9-b497-9d2a39822916_1868x382.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fKao!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fbc1bc6-d05f-4cb9-b497-9d2a39822916_1868x382.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fKao!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fbc1bc6-d05f-4cb9-b497-9d2a39822916_1868x382.png" width="1650" height="337.70604395604397" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3fbc1bc6-d05f-4cb9-b497-9d2a39822916_1868x382.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:298,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1650,&quot;bytes&quot;:151459,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/155973061?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fbc1bc6-d05f-4cb9-b497-9d2a39822916_1868x382.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fKao!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fbc1bc6-d05f-4cb9-b497-9d2a39822916_1868x382.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fKao!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fbc1bc6-d05f-4cb9-b497-9d2a39822916_1868x382.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fKao!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fbc1bc6-d05f-4cb9-b497-9d2a39822916_1868x382.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fKao!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3fbc1bc6-d05f-4cb9-b497-9d2a39822916_1868x382.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>We can examine the implied growth rates of the different price levels as compared to the segment-weighted average growth rate for the, more mature, Permian land owner TPL over time. (Again, TPL is the more mature company and one should consider the fact that WB&#8217;s pipeline network and LB&#8217;s acreage is still growing as management continues to seek acquisition opportunities).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5OI9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F88ef24a5-8704-46bf-a80f-8e1992038bc8_1869x373.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5OI9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F88ef24a5-8704-46bf-a80f-8e1992038bc8_1869x373.png 424w, 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>.</p><p>For my money, I&#8217;d be willing to take the longterm TPL multiple of 28x on LB, but at the price point that assumes zero data centers actually get built, for a buy range around $50/sh.</p><p>.</p><p>We can also compare LB&#8217;s valuation multiple relative to other, more directly-associated, AI-beneficiaries:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8RG5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdb61220e-a528-41bf-b094-d7e13821219e_1656x323.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>Risks</h1><p>Let&#8217;s just assume that tech companies find LB&#8217;s acreage suitable for data center construction (never mind the additional challenges posed by the Permian&#8217;s higher temperatures that may strain cooling systems, lack of existing fiber connectivity, danger to equipment from frequent dust storms due to the flat and arid environment, and seismic risk from local fracking operations vs the DFW area which does not have these issues). Some other risk factors that I think could be important issues to monitor are&#8230; </p><ul><li><p>At least narrative-wise, the data center angle has been important to LB&#8217;s price action. Over time, increased land acquisitions in combination with WB&#8217;s pipeline buildout <em>may</em> alone be enough to justify LB&#8217;s implied growth expectations (note that most of the growth in their 2025 EBITDA vs 2024 comes from a water-handling deal negotiated by WB and not anything related to data centers), but the price has been very sensitive to AI-related news. For example, between the release of the free and open-source Chinese DeepSeek-R1 LLM model on Jan 21 and the rapid ascent of the company&#8217;s associated chatbot app to the top spot on the Apple and Google app stores by the 28th <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-34" href="#footnote-34" target="_self">34</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-35" href="#footnote-35" target="_self">35</a>, US AI stocks slumped with the tech-heavy NASDAQ falling 3% and NVIDIA falling 20% <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-36" href="#footnote-36" target="_self">36</a>. Meanwhile, LB stock fell by a similar 23%, peak to trough. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y7fg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b24e338-027c-42e0-afa6-4a4309785c22_683x430.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y7fg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b24e338-027c-42e0-afa6-4a4309785c22_683x430.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!y7fg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b24e338-027c-42e0-afa6-4a4309785c22_683x430.png 848w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://www.google.com/finance/quote/LB:NYSE?sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiZ5KbSo_WLAxW2HEQIHbdrKMMQ3ecFegQIOxAf&amp;window=YTD&amp;comparison=NASDAQ%3ANVDA">https://www.google.com/finance/quote/LB:NYSE?sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiZ5KbSo_WLAxW2HEQIHbdrKMMQ3ecFegQIOxAf&amp;window=YTD&amp;comparison=NASDAQ%3ANVDA</a>)</em></p></li><li><p>(Sudden and unexpected) deflation of data center kWh requirements (and subsequent water and acreage requirements) for processing the same volume of prompting and inference tokens via rapid step-wise tech and algorithm innovations, a la DeepSeek <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-37" href="#footnote-37" target="_self">37</a>. There is a tug of war between Jevon&#8217;s Paradox (to increase total data center capacity / infrastructure demand) vs innovation-driven kWh-per-token deflation.</p></li><li><p>Earthquake risk from continued produced water injection disposal in the Permian may make the area less attractive for large data center investments and other non-fracking-related projects. Looking into why DFW is such a popular data center hub in Texas, one of the reason I continually see is the low risk of dangerous weather conditions that may result in damage to the expensive equipment housed in those facilities <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-38" href="#footnote-38" target="_self">38</a>. Would the increasing risk of earthquakes in the Permian make the area a less attractive location for hosting data centers despite the cheap access to land, energy, and water? (My understanding is that earthquake risk in the Permian is localized to certain specific areas with certain geological characteristics and that there are ways to mitigate these risks by monitoring fault locations, subsurface pressure changes, and wastewater injection depths <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-39" href="#footnote-39" target="_self">39</a>. Inversely, this could also make acreage that sits upon high capacity, lower pressure, pore space more valuable.)</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XDh8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ff0c5e2-d6a2-4a42-83b2-8ca92bccb77f_938x632.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XDh8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ff0c5e2-d6a2-4a42-83b2-8ca92bccb77f_938x632.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XDh8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ff0c5e2-d6a2-4a42-83b2-8ca92bccb77f_938x632.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XDh8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ff0c5e2-d6a2-4a42-83b2-8ca92bccb77f_938x632.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XDh8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ff0c5e2-d6a2-4a42-83b2-8ca92bccb77f_938x632.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XDh8!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ff0c5e2-d6a2-4a42-83b2-8ca92bccb77f_938x632.png" width="958" height="645.4754797441365" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XDh8!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ff0c5e2-d6a2-4a42-83b2-8ca92bccb77f_938x632.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XDh8!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ff0c5e2-d6a2-4a42-83b2-8ca92bccb77f_938x632.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XDh8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ff0c5e2-d6a2-4a42-83b2-8ca92bccb77f_938x632.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XDh8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ff0c5e2-d6a2-4a42-83b2-8ca92bccb77f_938x632.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p> (<em><a href="https://producedwatersociety.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/00118_Solaris-Midstream-Keynote-Presentation.pdf">https://producedwatersociety.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/00118_Solaris-Midstream-Keynote-Presentation.pdf</a></em>) </p><p>Here is a map of seismic activity from a 2018 study of the Permian:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!94Ue!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F514da268-0b0b-48f3-a05e-c72a312f243f_720x514.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!94Ue!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F514da268-0b0b-48f3-a05e-c72a312f243f_720x514.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!94Ue!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F514da268-0b0b-48f3-a05e-c72a312f243f_720x514.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!94Ue!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F514da268-0b0b-48f3-a05e-c72a312f243f_720x514.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!94Ue!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F514da268-0b0b-48f3-a05e-c72a312f243f_720x514.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!94Ue!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F514da268-0b0b-48f3-a05e-c72a312f243f_720x514.png" width="720" height="514" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!94Ue!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F514da268-0b0b-48f3-a05e-c72a312f243f_720x514.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!94Ue!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F514da268-0b0b-48f3-a05e-c72a312f243f_720x514.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!94Ue!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F514da268-0b0b-48f3-a05e-c72a312f243f_720x514.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!94Ue!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F514da268-0b0b-48f3-a05e-c72a312f243f_720x514.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(The A,B,C lines indicate fault lines in the earth&#8217;s crust with line thickness representing decreasing confidence of the illustrated direction; I&#8217;m pretty sure the blue to yellow gradient illustrates increasing fault stress where yellow indicates higher built-up stress that can trigger an earthquake; red dots indicate locations of recorded earthquakes of varying magnitudes; <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322907739_State_of_stress_in_the_Permian_Basin_Texas_and_New_Mexico_Implications_for_induced_seismicity">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322907739_State_of_stress_in_the_Permian_Basin_Texas_and_New_Mexico_Implications_for_induced_seismicity</a>)</em></p><ul><li><p>Development of closed-loop water cooling systems vs conventional evaporative systems. Mass adoption of this technology would cause LB&#8217;s water advantage to be greatly diminished vs other locations. (See <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-cloud/blog/2024/12/09/sustainable-by-design-next-generation-datacenters-consume-zero-water-for-cooling/">https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-cloud/blog/2024/12/09/sustainable-by-design-next-generation-datacenters-consume-zero-water-for-cooling/</a>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VrXW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7774176a-1097-428b-b9e4-8580c26a0622_900x601.webp" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VrXW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7774176a-1097-428b-b9e4-8580c26a0622_900x601.webp 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VrXW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7774176a-1097-428b-b9e4-8580c26a0622_900x601.webp 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VrXW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7774176a-1097-428b-b9e4-8580c26a0622_900x601.webp 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VrXW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7774176a-1097-428b-b9e4-8580c26a0622_900x601.webp 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VrXW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7774176a-1097-428b-b9e4-8580c26a0622_900x601.webp" width="900" height="601" 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While LB has tried to be strategic in their land acquisitions, in terms of where a data center might end up in the entire Permian basin, there are much larger land owners than LB (such as Apache, Occidental, and Chevron) that could host them and help to develop their necessary infrastructure <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-40" href="#footnote-40" target="_self">40</a>. For example, Exxon owns twice as much land as LB and has recently announced plans to build a natural gas power plant specifically to contract with data center companies <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-41" href="#footnote-41" target="_self">41</a>.</p></li><li><p>The developing ability / permitting to dispose of (treated) produced water directly into surface-level water sources, like the Pecos river, could affect the value of LB acreage for produced water injection disposal. &#8220;<em>Certainly, there are opportunities working with the regulators and applying for the appropriate permits for surface discharge into the Pecos River. That is an alternative. We are actively looking at that, as are others. And I think you will see that continue to progress over the next year.</em>&#8221; ~~~ ARIS founder and chairman, William Zartler, FY2024Q3 earnings call</p></li><li><p>A situation of declining productivity in Delaware basin that cannot be offset by longer laterals nor is offset by rising water-to-oil ratios, resulting in net declining water sourcing <em>and</em> recycling/disposal revenues.</p></li></ul><p>.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>.</p><p>update 20251023</p><div class="comment" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.substack.com/home&quot;,&quot;commentId&quot;:169826668,&quot;comment&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:169826668,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-10-24T19:45:52.369Z&quot;,&quot;edited_at&quot;:&quot;2025-10-25T00:56:16.963Z&quot;,&quot;body&quot;:&quot;$LB (Landbridge Co.)\n\nAfter basing/accumulating around the $50 level (my initial PT of interest stated in the original post on the name (https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/155973061/valuation)), $LB looks to be attempting to break out of it's 4mo range. Narrative backdrop of the chart appears to be around general tariff relief trade after (tepid signals of) easing tensions from October CN/US REE/tariffs escalation and a likely US invasion of VZ (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/21/trump-immigration-marco-rubio-drug-00617331) w/ possible disruption of global liquid joules supply and/or raised geopol risk premium (+ recent RU oil sanctions). \n\nMeanwhile, AI data center expansion remains a (elusive) call option for the biz. Note this pattern bears very similar resemblance to the climb that preceeded the Aug 7 gap-down on revenue and EPS expectation undershoot.\n\nhttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/16/world/americas/machado-nobel-peace-prize-venezuela-opposition.html\n\nhttps://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/16/trump-approves-cia-operations-in-venezuela-what-we-know-and-whats-next\n\nhttps://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2025/10/21/air-force-conducts-bomber-attack-demonstration-near-venezuela/\n\nDisclosure: Have also been accumulating smallish position (though may buy/sell at any time); again, I see $50 as a comfortable fair value price target as well as reasonable support for downside risk, barring any left-tail event that structurally changes LB&#8217;s business model or outlook.&quot;,&quot;body_json&quot;:{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;doc&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;schemaVersion&quot;:&quot;v1&quot;},&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;$LB (Landbridge Co.)&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;After basing/accumulating around the $50 level (my initial PT of interest stated in the original post on the name (&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/155973061/valuation&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/155973061/valuation&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;)), $LB looks to be attempting to break out of it's 4mo range. Narrative backdrop of the chart appears to be around general tariff relief trade after (tepid signals of) easing tensions from October CN/US REE/tariffs escalation and a likely US invasion of VZ (&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/21/trump-immigration-marco-rubio-drug-00617331&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/21/trump-immigration-marco-rubio-drug-00617331&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;) w/ possible disruption of global liquid joules supply and/or raised geopol risk premium (+ recent RU oil sanctions). &quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Meanwhile, AI data center expansion remains a (elusive) call option for the biz. 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Full disclosure, I sold most of my equity position after the DeepSeek shock in late Janurary for around a 10% loss in exchange for the calls. I explain a bit why I found the stock to be a bit of a gamble, and seemingly over-priced, later in the post.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>While managing and maintaining their acreage is extremely capex- and opex-light, LB has been investing in expanding their land holdings and made several purchases in 2024 at a blended expected EBITDA yield of around 13% (per Special Call 11/22/24, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0001995807/000095017024129975/lb-20241118.htm">https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0001995807/000095017024129975/lb-20241118.htm</a>). Aside from interest payments on debt, which appears to mostly have been used to finance further land acquisitions, most of LB&#8217;s ITDA expenses on their EBITDA comes from amortization of surface use agreements and water rights contracts that they&#8217;ve acquired as part of their various land deals (see section &#8220;Fair Value Measurements&#8221; in FY2024Q3 10Q). That is to say, as mentioned, they have little to no maintenance capex and so EBITDA can be taken as a close approximation to earnings for this business and these acquisitions.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I believe the largest in the Delaware basin is NGL Energy Partners, which competes with WB.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Basically a kind of mixture of sand, clay, and gravel that is used for construction or road-building material. My understanding is that businesses operating on LB land are required to buy all caliche that they use on the land from LB themselves. So, for example, a business that wants to build a road on LB acreage &#8212;say, for water tanker trucks to access a produced water treatment facility&#8212; would need to pay LB easement fees to build and keep the road as well as purchase all of the caliche they use to construct that road in the first place from LB. </p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Per TPL&#8217;s own presentation materials, <a href="https://www.texaspacific.com/investors/sec-filings/all-sec-filings/content/0001811074-21-000026/0001811074-21-000026.pdf">https://www.texaspacific.com/investors/sec-filings/all-sec-filings/content/0001811074-21-000026/0001811074-21-000026.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>LB pays WB shared management fees as part of their shared services agreement that show up in LB&#8217;s SG&amp;A; the management structure essentially &#8220;flows&#8221; down from WB to LB through this agreement.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://lithiumharvest.com/knowledge/produced-water-treatment/what-is-produced-water-treatment/">https://lithiumharvest.com/knowledge/produced-water-treatment/what-is-produced-water-treatment/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://archive.ph/SNU2e">https://archive.ph/SNU2e</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>See <a href="https://www.westernmidstream.com/midstream-101/">https://www.westernmidstream.com/midstream-101/</a>, </p><p><a href="https://lithiumharvest.com/knowledge/produced-water-treatment/what-is-produced-water-treatment/">https://lithiumharvest.com/knowledge/produced-water-treatment/what-is-produced-water-treatment/</a>, </p><p><a href="https://kimray.com/training/brief-guide-water-management-oil-and-gas-industry">https://kimray.com/training/brief-guide-water-management-oil-and-gas-industry</a>, </p><p><a href="https://adi-analytics.com/2018/09/06/water-transportation-the-new-midstream-opportunity/">https://adi-analytics.com/2018/09/06/water-transportation-the-new-midstream-opportunity/</a>, </p><p>and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4_j-F7UkQE">here</a> for some references</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://theconversation.com/for-tech-giants-a-cautionary-tale-from-19th-century-railroads-on-the-limits-of-competition-91616">https://theconversation.com/for-tech-giants-a-cautionary-tale-from-19th-century-railroads-on-the-limits-of-competition-91616</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>See LB&#8217;s 2024Q3 earnings call for more on this discussion.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>From LB&#8217;s 2024Q3 10Q&#8230; &#8220;<em>Surface use royalties increased by $12.4 million, or 144%, to $21.0 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2024, as compared to $8.6 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2023.</em>&#8221; Furthermore, &#8220;<em>[e]asements and other surface-related revenues increased by $4.3 million, or 187%, to $6.6 million for the three months ended September 30, 2024, as compared to $2.3 million for the three months ended September 30, 2023. The increase was primarily attributable to oil and gas transportation and gathering pipelines and produced water handling infrastructure of $3.4 million</em>&#8221;. That is, 79% of that same-period YoY easement revenue increase was due to WaterBridge infrastructure build-out (I assume largely due to the Devon Energy partnership). This is a major uplift to revenues and I wonder how sustainable this kind of growth will be going forward.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;<em>We own the land on which 39 of the 89 water treatment and disposal facilities are located and we either have easements or lease the land on which the remaining water treatment and disposal facilities are located.</em>&#8221; NGL 2024 10K</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>See &#8220;Dispositions&#8221; section in NGL 2024 10K</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>One can compare LB&#8217;s acreage and EUR maps with the production maps here, from 2019 &#8212;which also contain an interesting discussion on the nuance of oilfield acreage tiers, see <a href="https://jpt.spe.org/whats-difference-between-tier-1-and-tier-2-not-much">https://jpt.spe.org/whats-difference-between-tier-1-and-tier-2-not-much</a>. (<em>There&#8217;s many other maps that show a similar story, but this is just example to check that management is telling a story consistent with everyone else&#8217;s understanding of the actual geology of the area</em>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rJEL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e3b7e3e-e442-4bc5-adf6-20fb56bc451f_540x610.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rJEL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e3b7e3e-e442-4bc5-adf6-20fb56bc451f_540x610.png 424w, 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href="https://www.twdb.texas.gov/groundwater/models/gam/crcx/ConceptualModelReport_Final.pdf">https://www.twdb.texas.gov/groundwater/models/gam/crcx/ConceptualModelReport_Final.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Aquifer thickness refers to the vertical depth of water-bearing rock or sediment that can store and transmit groundwater. Think of aquifer thickness as the the height of the underground water container. Note that the entire thickness of an aquifer isn&#8217;t usually filled with just water, but rather filled with rock or sediment with pore spaces filled with water, see <a href="https://wellntel.com/farmers-should-track-aquifer-saturated-thickness-to-plan-crops-and-irrigation/">https://wellntel.com/farmers-should-track-aquifer-saturated-thickness-to-plan-crops-and-irrigation/</a> and <a href="https://www.kgs.ku.edu/HighPlains/atlas/apst.htm">https://www.kgs.ku.edu/HighPlains/atlas/apst.htm</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZsF6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2773d031-140b-448e-a290-4547f4b3dbbd_750x422.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-20" href="#footnote-anchor-20" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">20</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>See here (<a href="https://www.texaspolicy.com/legewaterrights/">https://www.texaspolicy.com/legewaterrights/</a>) and here (<a href="https://www.texasenvironmentallaw.com/practice-areas/water-permits-rights/groundwater-permits-rights/">https://www.texasenvironmentallaw.com/practice-areas/water-permits-rights/groundwater-permits-rights/</a>) basic info on how (ground)water ownership rights relate to surface ownership rights in Texas.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-21" href="#footnote-anchor-21" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">21</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;<em>In New Mexico, half of Permian production in 2020 came from wells on federal lands. All production in Texas is on private and state-owned land. Wells on federal leases are, on average, higher performing than those in other parts of the basin</em>.&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.dallasfed.org/research/economics/2021/0304">https://www.dallasfed.org/research/economics/2021/0304</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-22" href="#footnote-anchor-22" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">22</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/declaring-a-national-energy-emergency/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/declaring-a-national-energy-emergency/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/unleashing-american-energy/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/unleashing-american-energy/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.morganlewis.com/blogs/powerandpipes/2025/01/trump-vance-administration-issues-executive-order-to-promote-american-energy">https://www.morganlewis.com/blogs/powerandpipes/2025/01/trump-vance-administration-issues-executive-order-to-promote-american-energy</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-23" href="#footnote-anchor-23" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">23</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-energy-secretary-nominee-chris-wright/story?id=115935864">https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-energy-secretary-nominee-chris-wright/story?id=115935864</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-24" href="#footnote-anchor-24" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">24</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-promises-tax-cuts-oil-070000035.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-promises-tax-cuts-oil-070000035.html</a></p><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/trump-signs-order-review-applications-approval-lng-export-projects-2025-01-21/">https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/trump-signs-order-review-applications-approval-lng-export-projects-2025-01-21/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-25" href="#footnote-anchor-25" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">25</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://archive.ph/RqwBo">https://archive.ph/RqwBo</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.texastribune.org/2025/01/24/texas-data-center-boom-grid/">https://www.texastribune.org/2025/01/24/texas-data-center-boom-grid/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-26" href="#footnote-anchor-26" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">26</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://lightyear.ai/blogs/ashburn-colocation-data-center-alley">https://lightyear.ai/blogs/ashburn-colocation-data-center-alley</a>; </p><p><a href="https://upstack.com/blog/why-is-ashburn-known-as-data-center-alley/">https://upstack.com/blog/why-is-ashburn-known-as-data-center-alley/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-27" href="#footnote-anchor-27" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">27</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>eg&#8230; </p><p><a href="https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/analysis/the-battle-for-northern-virginia-saturation-point-for-data-centers/">https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/analysis/the-battle-for-northern-virginia-saturation-point-for-data-centers/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/management/fairfax-county-residents-push-back-on-data-center-zoning">https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/management/fairfax-county-residents-push-back-on-data-center-zoning</a>; </p><p><a href="https://wtop.com/business-finance/2024/03/northern-virginia-again-ranks-no-1-data-center-market-but-challenges-are-mounting/">https://wtop.com/business-finance/2024/03/northern-virginia-again-ranks-no-1-data-center-market-but-challenges-are-mounting/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/analysis/the-battle-for-northern-virginia-saturation-point-for-data-centers/">https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/analysis/the-battle-for-northern-virginia-saturation-point-for-data-centers/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-28" href="#footnote-anchor-28" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">28</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.compassdatacenters.com/why-a-dallas-fort-worth-data-center/">https://www.compassdatacenters.com/why-a-dallas-fort-worth-data-center/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.datacenterfrontier.com/voices-of-the-industry/article/11429599/8-reasons-why-dallas-fort-worth-is-a-rising-destination-data-center-market">https://www.datacenterfrontier.com/voices-of-the-industry/article/11429599/8-reasons-why-dallas-fort-worth-is-a-rising-destination-data-center-market</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-29" href="#footnote-anchor-29" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">29</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.texastribune.org/2025/01/24/texas-data-center-boom-grid/">https://www.texastribune.org/2025/01/24/texas-data-center-boom-grid/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/stargate-data-center-powered-by-natural-gas-2025-1">https://www.businessinsider.com/stargate-data-center-powered-by-natural-gas-2025-1</a></p><p><a href="https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/microsoft-planning-170mw-gas-power-plant-at-dublin-campus/">https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/microsoft-planning-170mw-gas-power-plant-at-dublin-campus/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/natural-gas-plant-planned-for-stargate-ai-data-center-campus-report/">https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/natural-gas-plant-planned-for-stargate-ai-data-center-campus-report/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-30" href="#footnote-anchor-30" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">30</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>We can guess this by simply looking at the data center map, zooming on Pecos and examining the highway pattern at the intersection (a cross shape angled north-west with an extra leg going southward), then comparing this pattern to a map of LB acreage + the fact that LB cites having contracted with *a* crypo miner &#8212;of which Core Scientific is one&#8212; in their most recent <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312525014364/d898161d424b3.htm">prospectus</a> (&#8220;<em>we have entered into various surface use agreements through which our customers have built and own or are developing infrastructure on our land, including [&#8230;] a data center and a cryptocurrency facility, as of December 30, 2024.</em>&#8221;). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8M95!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3f943701-8bed-41f6-92b0-2ae7d64711c7_1024x550.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312525014364/d898161d424b3.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312525014364/d898161d424b3.htm</a>, see the yellow/beige LB acreage partially covered by the &#8220;Pecos&#8221; label on the map).</p><p> </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-31" href="#footnote-anchor-31" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">31</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;<em>On November 6, 2024, we entered into a lease development agreement for the development of a data center and related facilities on approximately 2,000 acres of our land in Reeves County, Texas. The counterparty to the agreement is a joint venture between a third-party developer and funds affiliated with our financial sponsor, Five Point Energy LLC.&#8221; </em>~~~ LB 2024Q3 10Q</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-32" href="#footnote-anchor-32" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">32</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Kevin MacCurdy: &#8220;<em>Yes, following up on the data center, I just was curious if you guys have quantified how many data center and solar lease opportunities you had out there? And if you wanted to provide some high-level thoughts on what the potential revenue impact could be from either a single deal or from all the opportunities you see?</em>&#8221;</p><p>Jason Long: &#8220;<em>Yes, Kevin. So we've roughly identified 5 to 6 right off the bat from a data center standpoint. As far as you think about solar, one of the first data centers that we're focused on would be co-located with a large solar development, roughly 250 megawatts.</em>&#8221;</p><p>LB 2024Q2 earnings call.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-33" href="#footnote-anchor-33" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">33</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em><a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/musks-xai-operating-gas-turbines-without-permits-data-center-environmental-group-2024-08-28/">https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/musks-xai-operating-gas-turbines-without-permits-data-center-environmental-group-2024-08-28/</a>; </em></p><p><em><a href="https://time.com/7021709/elon-musk-xai-grok-memphis/">https://time.com/7021709/elon-musk-xai-grok-memphis/</a>; </em></p><p><em><a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/28/musk-xai-accused-of-worsening-memphis-smog-with-unauthorized-turbines.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/28/musk-xai-accused-of-worsening-memphis-smog-with-unauthorized-turbines.html</a></em></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-34" href="#footnote-anchor-34" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">34</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/27/deepseek-displaces-chatgpt-as-the-app-stores-top-app/">https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/27/deepseek-displaces-chatgpt-as-the-app-stores-top-app/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-35" href="#footnote-anchor-35" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">35</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://sherwood.news/markets/quick-and-dirty-timeline-of-markets-deepseek-freak/">https://sherwood.news/markets/quick-and-dirty-timeline-of-markets-deepseek-freak/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-36" href="#footnote-anchor-36" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">36</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-is-deepseek-ai-china-stock-nvidia-nvda-asml/">https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-is-deepseek-ai-china-stock-nvidia-nvda-asml/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-37" href="#footnote-anchor-37" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">37</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.bain.com/insights/deepseek-a-game-changer-in-ai-efficiency/">https://www.bain.com/insights/deepseek-a-game-changer-in-ai-efficiency/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-38" href="#footnote-anchor-38" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">38</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.datacenterfrontier.com/voices-of-the-industry/article/11429599/8-reasons-why-dallas-fort-worth-is-a-rising-destination-data-center-market">https://www.datacenterfrontier.com/voices-of-the-industry/article/11429599/8-reasons-why-dallas-fort-worth-is-a-rising-destination-data-center-market</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-39" href="#footnote-anchor-39" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">39</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/aapg/aapgbull/article-abstract/108/12/2201/650126/Knowns-questions-and-implications-of-induced?redirectedFrom=fulltext">https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/aapg/aapgbull/article-abstract/108/12/2201/650126/Knowns-questions-and-implications-of-induced?redirectedFrom=fulltext</a></p><p><a href="https://phys.org/news/2024-12-insights-permian-basin-earthquake-hazards.html">https://phys.org/news/2024-12-insights-permian-basin-earthquake-hazards.html</a></p><p><a href="https://environmentamerica.org/texas/center/updates/railroad-commission-bans-injection-of-fracking-waste-in-area-wracked-with-earthquakes/">https://environmentamerica.org/texas/center/updates/railroad-commission-bans-injection-of-fracking-waste-in-area-wracked-with-earthquakes/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-40" href="#footnote-anchor-40" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">40</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.oilandgas360.com/top-five-permian-companies-hold-9-4-million-acres-basin/">https://www.oilandgas360.com/top-five-permian-companies-hold-9-4-million-acres-basin/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-41" href="#footnote-anchor-41" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">41</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/exxonmobil-plots-natural-gas-power-plant-to-exclusively-power-data-centers/">https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/exxonmobil-plots-natural-gas-power-plant-to-exclusively-power-data-centers/</a></p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Portfolio review 2024, annual]]></title><description><![CDATA[********** UPDATE 20241231: Updated portfolio performance charts to include the final days of 2024. **********]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/portfolio-review-2024-annual</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/portfolio-review-2024-annual</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:01:06 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff9128b96-2136-43e6-ada9-05afb684e997_681x828.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>********** <em>UPDATE 20241231: Updated portfolio performance charts to include the final days of 2024.</em> **********</p><h1>Performance</h1><p>Compared to the actual returns of the S&amp;P 500, midcap, smallcap, and Vanguard total market (which is the better one to use IMO as it helps to mitigate the survivorship bias inherent in the narrower indexes like the S&amp;P 500 that focuses on the existing top 500 largecap companies)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> ETFs YTD, the portfolio&#8217;s 27.76% return won out by a few percentage points:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YtzN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82615f37-75c9-4dd2-a4d9-dbdc50b0aaac_697x559.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YtzN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82615f37-75c9-4dd2-a4d9-dbdc50b0aaac_697x559.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In the above chart, we can see my strategy for the portfolio of <em>&#8220;do OK (or at least don&#8217;t lose very much) on the backs of the past winners I continue to let run, while hoping some of the portfolio&#8217;s smaller-sized call options &#8212;usually not literal call options contracts, but companies that act like long-lasting call options&#8212; give the portfolio an additional boost without having taken much additional cost-basis risk</em>&#8221; payign off, where the portfolio did just fine through the majority of the year with a few larger bumps near the end as certain small &#8220;call options&#8221; (one literal and the rest figurative, in this case) happened to pay off in an outsized manner to the indexes. I&#8217;ve written a bit more about this idea in the past, here: <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/45570065/the-logic-of-investing-in-non-perishable-optionality">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/45570065/the-logic-of-investing-in-non-perishable-optionality</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xWge!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e8fa5f2-1f62-46be-8db0-100a5187539d_615x424.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xWge!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e8fa5f2-1f62-46be-8db0-100a5187539d_615x424.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xWge!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e8fa5f2-1f62-46be-8db0-100a5187539d_615x424.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xWge!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e8fa5f2-1f62-46be-8db0-100a5187539d_615x424.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xWge!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e8fa5f2-1f62-46be-8db0-100a5187539d_615x424.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xWge!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e8fa5f2-1f62-46be-8db0-100a5187539d_615x424.jpeg" width="615" height="424" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4e8fa5f2-1f62-46be-8db0-100a5187539d_615x424.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:424,&quot;width&quot;:615,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Image&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Image" title="Image" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xWge!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e8fa5f2-1f62-46be-8db0-100a5187539d_615x424.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xWge!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e8fa5f2-1f62-46be-8db0-100a5187539d_615x424.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xWge!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e8fa5f2-1f62-46be-8db0-100a5187539d_615x424.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xWge!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e8fa5f2-1f62-46be-8db0-100a5187539d_615x424.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">How it feels investing against the indexes in 2024.</figcaption></figure></div><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20250221: We can put the portfolio&#8217;s 2024 results in greater context by looking a several other different indecies as well, from the Semper Augustus LLC 2024 letter (<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e2weviKQVWUklifj5RG7p_Zlmp0jJY_d/view">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e2weviKQVWUklifj5RG7p_Zlmp0jJY_d/view</a>):</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bZrA!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f520acd-1d6c-4d2d-96db-fe862ce43944_586x514.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>**********</p><p>Some of the larger contributions to performance came from continued holdings in TPL, Bitcoin (via ETFs, FRMO Corp, and Windland Holdings), and new addition GEO Group. Most of that drop off near the end of the year is due to the general pullback from peak in smallcaps and industrials (which is much of my portfolio) in addition to some individual losses in larger positions like FNV (after their recent earnings call) and <a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/lemoncakesinvesting/p/pmd-psychemedics-corp-hair-today?r=ywarc&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;showWelcomeOnShare=false">PMD/PMDI</a> (which has been unsurprisingly volatile after the reverse/forward-split and de-listing). There was also a loss of exactly 2% in December from speculative call options in the Kroger-Albertson&#8217;s merger (1%) and Nippon-US Steel acquisition (1% + continuing 1% equity position) &#8212;I thought they were good risk/reward setups and I thought my positioning was fine, but they just didn&#8217;t work out this these cases (unlike my GEO calls).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zz_E!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d990aba-15e7-4a4c-b407-9fd4abd6458d_689x431.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Pullback in smallcaps and industrials going into December 2024</figcaption></figure></div><p>We can see the general breakdown of specific drivers and macro diversification of the portfolio here:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S6-g!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febb907f7-00e9-44ee-a829-7b9f3515639b_2047x1266.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S6-g!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febb907f7-00e9-44ee-a829-7b9f3515639b_2047x1266.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S6-g!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febb907f7-00e9-44ee-a829-7b9f3515639b_2047x1266.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S6-g!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febb907f7-00e9-44ee-a829-7b9f3515639b_2047x1266.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S6-g!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febb907f7-00e9-44ee-a829-7b9f3515639b_2047x1266.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S6-g!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febb907f7-00e9-44ee-a829-7b9f3515639b_2047x1266.png" width="1200" height="741.7582417582418" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ebb907f7-00e9-44ee-a829-7b9f3515639b_2047x1266.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:900,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Considering the general quadrants of possible macro environments (with x-axis as GDP growth and y-axis as inflation rate and consider center at (2%,2%)), we can also look at a breakdown of the portfolio&#8217;s macro diversification vs the tech-plus-Tesla-heavy general market. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vok_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd05c334b-a336-46e1-9157-ea50d40831c1_817x530.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vok_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd05c334b-a336-46e1-9157-ea50d40831c1_817x530.png" width="817" height="530" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d05c334b-a336-46e1-9157-ea50d40831c1_817x530.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:530,&quot;width&quot;:817,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>The top 60 stocks of the S&amp;P 500 make up 66% of the entire index; the way that I calculate all of these charts is detailed in the post <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/portfolio-review-20240704-semi-annual#footnote-2-140186405">here</a></em>).</p><h1>Portfolio top holdings / updates</h1><h2>Cash / money market funds (10%)</h2><p>I look at cash as a recession and growthflation / interest rate hedge &#8212;eg. when markets are falling due to economic weakness or due to rate hikes being used to address inflation (causing asset price to fall). </p><p>This Buffett commentary from <a href="https://buffett.cnbc.com/2014-berkshire-hathaway-annual-meeting/">Berkshire&#8217;s 2014 annual meeting</a> comes to mind:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>I&#8217;ve always said that, you know, cash is &#8212; available cash or credit &#8212; is a lot like oxygen: that you don&#8217;t notice it &#8212; the lack of it &#8212; 99.9 percent of the time. But if it&#8217;s absent, it&#8217;s the only thing you notice. And we don&#8217;t want to be in that position. So we will keep 20 billion. We will never go to sleep at night worrying about any event that&#8217;s taken place that could hurt our ability to keep playing our game. And above 20 billion, we&#8217;ll try to find ways to invest it intelligently. And so far, we&#8217;ve generally done it.</em>&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Note that, at the time (May 3, 2014, but MRQ being reported for March 31), $20bn constituted 12-13% of Berkshire&#8217;s tangible book value and 8-9% of their total equity, so I think the amount I have presently is a fine amount &#8212;of course, in your personal life, one should also consider the <em>discretionary</em> cash they may also have in high-yield savings accounts outside of their investment portfolio. (<em>Of course, as with anything re. Buffett&#8217;s investing or portfolio mgmt strategies, it&#8217;s important to consider the phase in his career in which these things were happening (here, well into the Berkshire-famous phase); I wonder if his earlier partnership was run as conservatively and, if not, why</em>).</p><h2>GEO Group (10%)</h2><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20250117: After exercising my remaining $12 call options, the portfolio is now 14% allocated to GEO.</em> **********</p><p>I talked in greater detail about my investment case for GEO Group ahead of the November elections, here: </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;408e0992-a5cf-4fe5-80d7-95cd54c1e91a&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;********** UPDATE 20241216: GEO looks to be exiting survival mode and gearing up for &#8220;potentially unprecedented future growth opportunities.&#8221; Brian Evans served as GEO&#8217;s CEO from Jan 1, 2025 and announced that he would be retiring at the very end of the year on Dec 31, 2024. He is being replaced by J. David Donahue on Jan 1, 2025 (&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($GEO) Geo Group: Trump admin thriver, durable under Democrats&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2024-10-19T21:59:59.063Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf86b78b-45da-4cd6-bf97-bc5603cdd899_494x365.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/geo-geo-group-trump-admin-thriver&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:150291968,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:5,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>The setup was very amenable to a strategy of exposure via call options; I had an <em>upside and downside PT</em> that I was pretty confident in, with most of my baked-in fundamental assumptions made explicit, a <em>known</em> <em>time schedule</em> for when the high-impact fundamental changes would be happening for the company in the bull case (a Trump 2024 election win), and a reasonably knowable &#8212;or at least explicitly-stated&#8212; probability for that outcome (via the prediction markets). My use of options are often extremely simple wherein I mostly just use call options to allow myself to reduce cost basis value-at-risk, while still having claim to the same amount of underlying shares that my adjusted Kelly ratios suggest (which I based on the options&#8217; breakevens) in case things played out in my favor; in this case they did. </p><p>Now the the election has been decided in Trump&#8217;s (and thus GEO&#8217;s) favor, I&#8217;ve exercised most of the options and will see how things start to shake out in early 2025 to determine if I&#8217;m going to hold the position in it&#8217;s entirety or start paring down to lock in some profits. Trump has promised strong action on immigration and deportations on day one of his inauguration, so it won&#8217;t be too long before we get a taste of the how the new administration and any political response thereto will affect GEO.</p><p>My 2026 PT for GEO is $42/sh, but we&#8217;ll see how much political will there really is for expanding immigration detention and ISAP projects once Trump is actually in office.</p><p>For their part, the company looks to be exiting survival mode and gearing up for what they believe to be &#8220;<em>potentially unprecedented future growth opportunities.</em>&#8221; Brian Evans served as GEO&#8217;s CEO from Jan 1, 2025 and announced that he would be retiring at the very end of the year on Dec 31, 2024. He is being replaced by J. David Donahue on Jan 1, 2025  (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000119312524279667/0001193125-24-279667-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000119312524279667/0001193125-24-279667-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000119312524074555/d717730ddef14a.htm#toc717730_4">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000119312524074555/d717730ddef14a.htm#toc717730_4</a>). </p><p>Evans&#8217; experience was primarily in finance as he served as GEO&#8217;s CFO from 2009 to 2023 before his CEO appointment. Meanwhile, Donahue &#8212;who GEO is bringing out of his 2020 retirement in order to fill the CEO role&#8212; was more focused on operations at the company. To me it seems like GEO appointed Evans in 2024 for his financing experience as GEO faced an uncertain future and needed a finance person to make sure they could keep the ship solvent and work on paying down debt; Evans was &#8220;<em>instrumental in successfully executing the Company&#8217;s strategy for three secondary public offerings of equity; the execution of multiple financing transactions; and the successful completion of major business transactions</em>&#8221;. </p><p>However, now that Trump will be the incoming President in 2025 and has promised to enact a historic deportation project on &#8220;<em>day one</em>&#8221; of his Presidency, it seems like GEO is swapping CEOs for someone with more operational experience as it looks like those operations will be heating up bigly in 2025. Additionally, GEO promoted a former ICE COO Daniel Ragsdale as Senior Vice President of Contract Administration and Compliance, further hinting at heightened focus on ICE opportunities. The company also announced a $70MM investment in expanding capacity for ICE-related services, while also exploring the sale of under-performing state-owned facilities; again, emphasizing the focus on ICE operations. </p><p>Stephen Miller, Trump&#8217;s deputy chief of staff is predicting that Republicans in Congress could get a budget reconciliation bill (which only requires a simple majority vote of, the now Republican-controlled, Congress) to Trump&#8217;s desk by the end of January or early February. (<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5033341-trump-prioritizes-immigration-policy/">https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5033341-trump-prioritizes-immigration-policy/</a>; <a href="https://www.crfb.org/papers/reconciliation-101">https://www.crfb.org/papers/reconciliation-101</a>)</p><p>As one final note, I also like GEO due the relatively low correlation of it&#8217;s <em>fundamentals</em> to the rest of the market. GEO&#8217;s main source of funding comes from government contracts, which puts the business on a different cadence that the rest of the market as government spending can be totally non- or anti-correlated to the general health of the wider economy. In GEO&#8217;s case, the incoming administration has (rightly or wrongly) identified illegal immigration as a primary source of inflation and a declining economic experience of average Americans and GEO will be a direct beneficiary of the government response to this conclusion. Regardless, I think that GEO will continue to exist in some form so long as the US has borders that is cares to enforce (noting that even when Biden signed his 2021 <a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/26/executive-order-reforming-our-incarceration-system-to-eliminate-the-use-of-privately-operated-criminal-detention-facilities/">executive order</a> restricting the renewal of private prison federal detention contracts, the EO only applied to DOJ/BOP contracts and not DHS/ICE). Furthermore, while this would not be reflected in the <em>existing</em> data, I expect that GEO&#8217;s new going-forward focus on lowering debt levels and continued refinancing will reduce it&#8217;s earnings sensitivity to capital market cycles and interest rates vs the past <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>. I think of the position as swapping/diversifying market risk for policy risk.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PvB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F237b947c-9dc0-41e4-bffc-7c8d03bdbbe8_2048x1295.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PvB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F237b947c-9dc0-41e4-bffc-7c8d03bdbbe8_2048x1295.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PvB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F237b947c-9dc0-41e4-bffc-7c8d03bdbbe8_2048x1295.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PvB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F237b947c-9dc0-41e4-bffc-7c8d03bdbbe8_2048x1295.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PvB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F237b947c-9dc0-41e4-bffc-7c8d03bdbbe8_2048x1295.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PvB!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F237b947c-9dc0-41e4-bffc-7c8d03bdbbe8_2048x1295.png" width="1200" height="759.065934065934" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/237b947c-9dc0-41e4-bffc-7c8d03bdbbe8_2048x1295.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:921,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PvB!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F237b947c-9dc0-41e4-bffc-7c8d03bdbbe8_2048x1295.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PvB!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F237b947c-9dc0-41e4-bffc-7c8d03bdbbe8_2048x1295.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PvB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F237b947c-9dc0-41e4-bffc-7c8d03bdbbe8_2048x1295.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PvB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F237b947c-9dc0-41e4-bffc-7c8d03bdbbe8_2048x1295.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>GBTC/BTC/IBIT (10%)</h2><p>Another big winner of 2024 has been Bitcoin and the incoming Trump admin has been seen as largely positive for the industry (<a href="https://archive.ph/aDdeA">https://archive.ph/aDdeA</a>). </p><p>The majority of my position was bought during the 2022 &#8220;crypto winter&#8221; (which you can read about in a section of a previous post, <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/135459053/foreign-currency-risk-a-look-back-at">here</a>). I sold off all of my initial cost basis after BTC passed $100K late this year, but because of the big gains in BTC since buying the bulk of my position, that still leaves a rather large percentage of the portfolio in these Bitcoin ETFs.</p><p>As I&#8217;ve mentioned elsewhere, one consideration with owning GBTC or any other BTC ETF, now that GBTC is an ETF rather than a trust, is that the discount to NAV no longer occurs. Given this, it may be better for investors that want exposure to BTC to buy and hold the cryptocurrency directly (eg. via Gemini, Coinbase, hardware wallet, etc). One of the main advantages here is that owning BTC directly gives one the added call optionality of benefiting from any hard-forks of cryptocurrency that may occur in the future.</p><p>Given that not much about the protocol itself &#8212;nor restrictions on BTC ownership&#8212; have changed too much, neither have my general thoughts on BTC as an investment from when I first wrote about it, here: </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;0240c6e2-6f19-4da8-b14e-7c054313847c&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&#8220;I think the key ingredient of that is focusing on what is the risk you&#8217;re taking. I think a lot of people get in a lot of trouble because they do a transaction and they don&#8217;t understand what the risk they&#8217;re assuming is when they do the transaction. What he taught me more than anything else was, look at the deal and figure out where is the vulnerabilit&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($FRMO) FRMO Corp: The Most Important Things - Part 3.1: Bitcoin is the \&quot;better money\&quot;&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2022-07-21T06:36:53.149Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/h_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccb498d5-3d4d-4c90-957b-7e19d747face_612x407.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/frmo-the-most-important-things-part-f3c&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:64709954,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><h2>FRMO/WELX/RCG (3% / 1% / 6%)</h2><p>Collectively, I group these all as a singular Murray Stahl-based bet-the-jockey position. IMO, a big problem with this conglomerate is that manager Stahl is already rich and, by the way, never started HK or FRMO in order to get rich in the first place &#8212;rather he has stated that HK was founded as a way to allow Stahl and the co-founders to work on the problems they wanted to in the way they wanted to. I think this &#8212;in addition to his age, now 70&#8212; stops him from making bolder moves when he analyzes situations. Eg. he did not use FRMO&#8217;s large cash reserves to finish up buying their desired majority stake in WELX during the lows of the 2022 crypto winter, despite having stated many times in the past that FRMO&#8217;s incremental approach and conservative balance sheet management was so that the company could make bold moves at times when other crypto miners could not).</p><h3>FRMO: </h3><p>Composed mostly of public companies (even more so now that Horizon Kinetics Asset Management itself is a publicly traded company (OTCMKTS:HKHC)), you can basically create the returns of FRMO yourself without directly paying the book-value-premium for FRMO&#8217;s &#8220;intellectual capital&#8221; (which you can get for free every 3 months off of the company&#8217;s website of disclosures and earnings call transcripts). I&#8217;ve been selling down my position over time as the stock has risen over the year in exchange for RCG. Given the current SOTP, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s really worth putting money into FRMO unless it ever trades at a discount to TBV &#8212;or starts accumulating large positions in private investments that can&#8217;t otherwise be independently accessed publicly. As things stand, you can easily emulate FRMO by simply investing in TPL, HKHC, GBTC/IBIT, and WELX where relative amounts can be derived using FRMO&#8217;s own public disclosures. This is not so easily done with RCG, which has a lot more individual holdings (all very illiquid) as well as several private equity investments selected by Stahl.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P--s!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c4df012-0361-4a59-8a92-c8e4f6a55af7_1208x342.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!P--s!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c4df012-0361-4a59-8a92-c8e4f6a55af7_1208x342.png 424w, 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having your Winland shares exchanged for FRMO shares (plus maybe some cash) in due time. While both FRMO and WELX trade at a premium to SOTP value, I notice that FRMO tends to trade at a much greater premium vs WELX across time. It will be interesting to see how Stahl and Bregman do as crypto mining operators, rather than allocators, when that time comes.</p><p>One can calculate the existing SOTP value of WELX&#8217;s BTC + cash + PP&amp;E NAV as well an simple NPV for the stagnant device legacy business, factor in some amount of BTC accumulation as the company mines and HODLs more crypto across t=1,2,3&#8230;, and come up with various price targets for different points in time. By my calculations (some which are shown below), it&#8217;s generally better to just buy IBIT or another direct Bitcoin ETF unless WELX is trading at a discount to it&#8217;s SOTP value. That is, I don&#8217;t think &#8212;using even if using rather optimistic assumed BTC mining/accumulation rates&#8212; that there are many cases where WELX is a better value than the BTC ETFs unless already trading at a significant discount to SOTP, but also that WELX is also more likely to trade at a discount than the ETFs are.</p><p>IMO, considering their historical BTC accumulation rates (and taking the LTC and BCH accumulation to be negligible given that their existing holdings are so small), there is almost never a time where buying WELX shares makes sense vs simply buying BTC ETF shares. The only exception is when WELX trades at a discount to it&#8217;s SOTP value in which case it is akin to buying a BTC fund at a discount to NAV (given the majority-BTC and cash makeup of their book value). This is because WELX&#8217;s BTC value needs to overcome it&#8217;s existing premium to SOTP (which I currently have 10%) before it starts to contribute to total NAV growth &#8212;noting that the legacy biz is totally stagnant and Stahl mentioning no interest in investing in its growth&#8212; whereas more direct BTC ownership does not have this handicap.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yC5X!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa3d09e2a-ae19-467c-9321-f88d76d6856b_1076x655.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>RCG: </h3><p>This close-ended fund has a very similar major holdings to FRMO, but with a smaller crypto element. This disaggregation means that you can independently customize your crypto exposure to fit your comfort level &#8212;as mentioned before, FRMO&#8217;s crypto investments are largely via public companies that you can buy on your own (GBTC, IBIT, and WELX). Also, unlike FRMO, 1] the CEF trades at a discount to NAV (often greater than 20% discount), and 2] has more holdings, with several being more private company VC bets by Stahl, that makes the fund harder to replicate by simply buying the components individual on the public market. At the same time, RCG is still managed by Stahl, so you are getting the same chief investor and similar ideas, but at a discount, rather than at a premium.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!32mo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c1edef2-8fa0-4711-b8f6-002fa4efd3bf_690x462.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!32mo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c1edef2-8fa0-4711-b8f6-002fa4efd3bf_690x462.png 424w, 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You can read my initial post on RCG, here: </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;deeb2158-7f34-4f2d-b5a4-2f889a45a576&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&#8220;If I was running $1 million today, or $10 million for that matter, I&#8217;d be fully invested. Anyone who says that size does not hurt investment performance is selling. The highest rates of return I&#8217;ve ever achieved were in the 1950s. I killed the Dow. You ought to see the numbers. But I was investing peanuts then. It&#8217;s a huge structural advantage not to h&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($RCG) The RENN Fund: A diversified and discounted permanent-capital nanocap with a lot of optionality (and a few private companies), being run for free by smart allocators.&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2023-03-11T00:45:40.917Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe50b2e-03f5-4f49-b374-faaf093fe55a_830x549.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/rcg-the-renn-fund-a-discounted-stahl&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:105997445,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:3,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><h2>TPL et al (10%)</h2><p>Sold BSM from this oil &amp; gas royalties basket simply to end the hassle of the annual K-1 form, yet still have the remaining basket of TPL and VNOM (simply holding the existing position from 2021, though they&#8217;ve both grown around 100% since that time) as well as a smallish position in LB (noticed the ticker in a recent holdings disclosure from the RENN Fund and thought was interesting).</p><p>.</p><p>People often associate TPL with Horizon Kinetics and consequently may sometimes equivocate TPL to LandBridge (LB) (whose shares HK has been buying and currently has a <a href="https://whalewisdom.com/stock/lb">30% stake in</a>). However, keep in mind that, while &#8220;<em>78% of [LB&#8217;s] pro forma [2023] revenue was generated from uses of our land and its resources to support the development and production of oil and natural gas</em>&#8221;, LB does not own a lot of the subsurface mineral rights for the majority acreage they own the surface rights to. This makes them less sensitive to O&amp;G price fluctuations (though this cuts both ways to the upside and the downside). The company expects that they will &#8220;<em>acquire additional mineral interests only incidentally in connection with property acquired primarily for other purposes and, consequently, oil and natural gas is expected to become a smaller percentage of our total revenues over time</em>&#8221; (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312524172433/d752700d424b4.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312524172433/d752700d424b4.htm</a>).</p><p>I would say, though, that IDK if there are a lot of great comps for LB beyond TPL. Both businesses focus on a mix of mineral and surface rights ownership (both collecting royalties or sale revenues from hydrocarbons, sand, and water), primarily generate revenues on hosting oil and gas operations, both have a shareholder base that is also pricing in the potential for hosting renewable energy and AI projects, and both are in component basins of the larger Permian basin (LB being in the Delaware basin and TPL revenues mainly focused on Delaware and Midland) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>. Below, I&#8217;ve overlaid LB&#8217;s acreage map (colored) with TPL&#8217;s (black and white):</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xm4J!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca1d0d50-7e35-4158-b8b1-1d71ff5158ee_5929x3545.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xm4J!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca1d0d50-7e35-4158-b8b1-1d71ff5158ee_5929x3545.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xm4J!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca1d0d50-7e35-4158-b8b1-1d71ff5158ee_5929x3545.png 848w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://www.landbridgeco.com/about739ec34a">https://www.landbridgeco.com/about739ec34a</a>; <a href="https://www.texaspacific.com/investors/presentations">https://www.texaspacific.com/investors/presentations</a>; <a href="https://www.oilandgaslawyerblog.com/the-tplt-proxy-war/">https://www.oilandgaslawyerblog.com/the-tplt-proxy-war/</a>; <a href="https://www.viperenergy.com/news-releases/events">https://www.viperenergy.com/news-releases/events</a>; IDK that some of that <a href="https://vimeo.com/331331053?share=copy#t=76.4">Loving county</a> TPL area in the second map is still totally accurate)</em></p><p>(<em>Other maps of interest: <a href="https://www.rrc.texas.gov/resource-center/research/gis-viewer/">https://www.rrc.texas.gov/resource-center/research/gis-viewer/</a> (see <a href="https://www.rrc.texas.gov/media/kmld3uzj/digital-map-information-user-guide.pdf">https://www.rrc.texas.gov/media/kmld3uzj/digital-map-information-user-guide.pdf</a>); <a href="https://www3.twdb.texas.gov/apps/waterdatainteractive/groundwaterdataviewer">https://www3.twdb.texas.gov/apps/waterdatainteractive/groundwaterdataviewer</a></em>)</p><p>On the subject of LB&#8217;s surface rights coverage, one interesting thing from their <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312524172433/d752700d424b4.htm">prospectus</a> was the discussion of a regulatory arbitrage that makes their land and water sources and treatment/disposal locations more attractive to New Mexico operators in the Eddy and Lea counties due to the relative laxity of regulations on the Texas side (as opposed to New Mexico operators trying to gets those same resource infrastructure permitted and developed on their own side of the border).</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>In contrast to New Mexico, Texas generally provides a more favorable regulatory environment for produced water permitting. <strong>Between January 1, 2021 and March 31, 2024, the Texas produced water permitting process has taken an average of 171 days from initial submission to approval for produced water handling facilities located in the Delaware Basin (as defined by the EIA&#8217;s Permian Sub-Basin boundary), compared to an average of 655 days in New Mexico for produced water handling facilities located in the Delaware Basin over the same time period. Furthermore, we believe that New Mexico regulatory agencies have been less likely to approve shallow geological produced water handling wells.</strong> Only 30% of all approved permits in the Delaware Basin in New Mexico from January 1, 2021 to March 31, 2024 were for shallower intervals (defined as injection formations above the top of the Woodford formation), compared to 99% in the Delaware Basin in Texas over the same time period. Building infrastructure for deep geological produced water handling is time consuming, operationally complex and expensive, which increases the economic risks and limits operational flexibility and certainty desired by water midstream companies and E&amp;P companies. The combination of favorable geological characteristics and a comparatively less restrictive regulatory environment drives increased demand for produced water handling facilities on the Texas side of the Texas-New Mexico state border. [&#8230;] <strong>New Mexico also presents a more restrictive regulatory and hydrological environment for sourcing brackish water used for oil and natural gas well completion activity. As a result, much of the brackish water supplied to the oil and natural gas industry in New Mexico is sourced from Texas</strong>. Our Stateline and Northern Positions contain significant underground brackish water sources from which brackish water can be produced for sale to companies that deliver this water to E&amp;P companies in New Mexico for use in their drilling and completion activities.</em>&#8221;  </p></blockquote><p>This strategic positioning between Texas and New Mexico is also mentioned by TPL director, Eric Oliver, <a href="https://vimeo.com/331331053?share=copy#t=76.4">here</a>.</p><p>We can further see how LB is looking to benefit from this Tex/NewMex regulatory arbitrage by examining a map of, sister company, WaterBridge&#8217;s (WB) active and planned water-handling pipelines across the two states and into LB acreage. WB is the largest pure-play produced water midstream company in the US and operates a large-scale network of pipelines and other infrastructure in the Delaware basin (where I believe it&#8217;s <em>the</em> largest pipeline network in the area):</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!644X!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb5c4449-5c91-405d-85ec-efea2fb11449_416x508.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!644X!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb5c4449-5c91-405d-85ec-efea2fb11449_416x508.jpeg 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(&#8220;WaterBridge Assets Map&#8221;, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312524172433/d752700d424b4.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312524172433/d752700d424b4.htm</a>; note that this older map does not include the Wolf Bone Ranch property, acquired in December 2024, that can be seen between the southern Reeves county position here and Ward county line in the previous maps) </em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a></p><p>(<em>I wish this map included a breakdown of what specific type of water handling facility each dot represented, eg. brackish water sourcing/distribution vs produced water treatment/recycling/disposal</em>). <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p><p>Something to note about pipelines like these is that they have a kind of incumbent advantaged, network effect where it costs less for an incumbent to extend an existing pipeline rather than for a new entrant to try to build out a whole new network to compete with the incumbent. Given WB and LB&#8217;s shared management team and existing agreements, it would be safe to assume that LB will also be benefiting from those network effects as they will be able to coordinate development plans. (<em>I think of the relationship between Diamondback (E&amp;P) and Viper Energy (mineral rights owner) as being somewhat analogous</em>). For example, one of LB&#8217;s biggest drivers of expected 2025 EBITDA is the increased surface use royalties from the handling of produced water expected from a long-term partnership struck in August 2023 between WB and an E&amp;P company, Devon Energy, where WB will handle all of Devon&#8217;s produced-water within a large area of the Delaware basin, which will ultimately result in increased use of LB lands on which WB asset handle produced-water treatment and disposal. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a></p><p>.</p><p>Because the mix of royalty types at LB vs TPL is so different (LB&#8217;s revenues nearly completely based on surface royalties and easements whereas TPL&#8217;s is a bit more evenly split between surface and mineral rights), we can&#8217;t directly comp their price on <em>purely</em> a per surface- or net-royalty-acre basis, exclusively. One thing we can maybe do is look at their revenue mix and create a weighted use-based acreage unit (WUBA) for each company and see how much each company&#8217;s present and future growth is being valued per WUBA (here using most recent quarter data for <a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0001811074/000181107424000061/tpl-20240930.htm">TPL</a> and <a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0001995807/000095017024122700/lb-20240930.htm">LB</a> as well as TPL&#8217;s <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1811074/000110465924102238/tm2420233d3_ars.pdf">2023 10K</a> and LB&#8217;s <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1995807/000119312524172433/d752700d424b4.htm">initial filing prospectus</a> for additional info)&#8230;</p><p>TPL: 57% of MRQ revenue came from oil and gas royalties (NRAs); 43% from surface-related acreage (SA).</p><p>LB: 90% of MRQ revenue came from surface acreage (SA); 10% comes from oil and gas royalties (NRAs).</p><p>WUBA = SA*(surface revenue mix) + NRA*(oil &amp; gas revenue mix)</p><p>TPL: Market Cap = $26,811MM (as of Dec 27 2024); Surface Acres = 868,446; NRA: 199,000 acres</p><p>LB: Market Cap = $1,110MM (as of Dec 27 2024); Surface Acres = 220,000; NRA = 7992.16 (= 4,180 gross mineral acres * 0.239 avg weighted royalty interest * 8, if we&#8217;re <a href="https://flatriverminerals.com/resources/blog/net-mineral-acres-vs-net-royalty-acres/">normalizing to 1/8th</a>)</p><p>(Note that double-counting is not an issue here since we are accounting for two different types of economic resource, but also the majority of LB&#8217;s mineral acreage directly underlies it&#8217;s surface acreage (96% per their prospectus)).</p><p>This give us values&#8230;</p><p>WUBA (TPL) = (868,446*0.43)+(199,000*0.57) = 486,862 WUBA</p><p>WUBA (LB) = (220,000*0.90)+(7992.16*0.10) = 198,799 WUBA</p><p>Price to WUBA (TPL) = $26,811MM/486,862 = $55,069/WUBA</p><p>Price to WUBA (LB) = $1,110MM/198,799 = $5,584/WUBA</p><p>From this POV, LB is orders of magnitude cheaper than TPL. </p><p>Of course there is even more that one could drill into on this route if we consider the fact that not all surface- or mineral-acres are equally valuable/productive, making the differences in acreage types even more problematic; acreages can differ in quality across sub-basins and across individual acres within the same basin (thus attracting more or less operators to utilize those surface or mineral acres). There is also the issue of cost structure, as the earnings contribution mix from the various business lines may be very different to how things appear at the top-line, but neither company breaks this out. Furthermore, it&#8217;s not hard to find things cheaper &#8212;on almost any relative basis&#8212; than TPL; I&#8217;d be curious to comp LB&#8217;s price-to-WUBA against other, more surface-based comps, if I could find any.</p><p>Lastly, I&#8217;d note that LB does not seem to have quite the same degree of optionally as TPL because LB is mostly surface rights (vs mineral rights). More and more oil can be discovered underground or new technologies can be developed to economically extract more resources, but IDK that you&#8217;re going to find more surface on your surface acreage (though maybe more or more-efficient uses for existing surface) &#8212;though, as I mentioned, this oil-price sensitivity is a double-edge sword. Thus, we can&#8217;t really treat surface- and mineral-acres as having the same value or growth potential and just split by present-day revenue mix.</p><p>.</p><p>Some lingering TPL/LB things I&#8217;m thinking about&#8230;</p><p>How much of TPL and LB&#8217;s strategic value comes from its particular physical location along the Texas - New Mexico border versus intelligent operation (which could theoretically be copied by well-funded competitors) or from the particular quality of their mineral acreage (of which better deposits could theoretically be discovered elsewhere in the US that could divert operator development dollars, eg. in California if the politics there were ever to change or internationally in Argentina shale given the new political environment there)? That is, how critical is the position along the Texas - New Mexico border to the value of TPL/LB and are there other private or public competitors that can just as easily facilitate competing land use agreements with TPL and LB's potential customers? Is it the scale of contiguous land tracts that make their assets unique? I&#8217;m still trying to get an idea of the competitive landscape for TPL and LB's land operations and who management sees as these companies&#8217; most significant public and private comps.</p><p>**********<em> UPDATE (week of) 20250121:</em></p><p><em>Asking this question during the recent FRMO shareholder meeting, mgmt had already had much to say about, not just TPL/LB&#8217;s positioning along the Texas - New Mexico border &#8212;as it pertained to facilitating regulatory arbitrage activity by New Mexico operators&#8212; but about the (continually reusable) value of the brackish water underlying the acreage and the major role they believe it will play in AI and data center cooling &#8212;in addition to the value of future easements associated with the infrastructure that will be required to feed energy, water, and data in/out of those data centers, which many TPL and LB discussions like to cover. (One risk I see to LB&#8217;s water value as it pertains to data centers is the prospect of data centers being built with <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-cloud/blog/2024/12/09/sustainable-by-design-next-generation-datacenters-consume-zero-water-for-cooling/#:~:text=These%20new%20liquid%20cooling%20technologies,requiring%20a%20fresh%20water%20supply.">closed-loop water cooling systems</a> that recirculate a fixed supply of water, rather than needing to continually contract with WB and LB to <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/yzlsoj/comment/ix2e6u1/">recycle and replenish</a> the water that <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/datacenter/comments/j6u5zf/comment/g80sqpn/">traditional evaporation systems</a> require. I suppose LB could charge the data centers a one-time price that is X times the $/bbl price they charge to evaporation-cooled ones, where X is proportional the expected lifetime of the water being taken, but it would still seem to detract from LB&#8217;s water advantage). </em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eE2N!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd56e33df-0579-44fb-8de3-035e752f1a4d_900x601.webp" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eE2N!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd56e33df-0579-44fb-8de3-035e752f1a4d_900x601.webp 424w, 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href="https://texasaquaticscience.org/aquifers-and-springs-aquatic-science/">https://texasaquaticscience.org/aquifers-and-springs-aquatic-science/</a>; <a href="https://www.twdb.texas.gov/publications/reports/numbered_reports/doc/r380_aquifersoftexas.pdf">https://www.twdb.texas.gov/publications/reports/numbered_reports/doc/r380_aquifersoftexas.pdf</a>; https://www.twdb.texas.gov/groundwater/docs/studies/TexasAquifersStudy_2016.pdf;  <a href="https://www.twdb.texas.gov/publications/reports/numbered_reports/doc/R382_PecosValley.pdf">https://www.twdb.texas.gov/publications/reports/numbered_reports/doc/R382_PecosValley.pdf</a>).</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!luog!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4452b083-c7b6-4e44-bad2-23a3e15e95a5_800x800.jpeg" 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Note that this is only a map of groundwater recharge rates, but most aquifers are primarily recharged by rainwater that flows from outcroppings of the formations where the rock layer reaches the surface.</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XOot!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4753055b-40ca-439d-9b44-8874b068be23_511x711.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XOot!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4753055b-40ca-439d-9b44-8874b068be23_511x711.png 424w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Capitan Reef Complex minor aquifer with outcrop recharge zone highlighted (w/ most recharge coming from Guadalupe and Glass mountains aquifer outcrops to the west).</figcaption></figure></div><p><em>It may be interesting to compare this depth map to the map of TPL and LB acreage displayed earlier in this post. TPL covers some of the thickest cross-sections of the aquifer (ie. most water) in Reeves and north-east of Loving (along with LB), while LB covers some of the thickest parts in the north-east of Winkler (overlapping the Capitan Reef Complex minor aquifer, <a href="https://www.twdb.texas.gov/groundwater/models/gam/crcx/ConceptualModelReport_Final.pdf">https://www.twdb.texas.gov/groundwater/models/gam/crcx/ConceptualModelReport_Final.pdf</a>)</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZUiR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6662ace-01ec-4fe2-9d62-ab7bd947edb1_4371x2792.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">TPL and LB acreage overlapped.</figcaption></figure></div><p><em>One would have to model the incremental cashflows to TPL/LB&#8217;s extremely-captial-light business in order to understand the data center opportunity. Doing this as a theoretical exercise might not even be necessary and we may soon see real-world examples of this very kind of development as Trump has recently signed several relevant executive orders. The EOs in question are relate to US energy policy (<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/declaring-a-national-energy-emergency/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/declaring-a-national-energy-emergency/</a>; <a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/unleashing-american-energy/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/unleashing-american-energy/</a>) which 1] directs agencies to review regulations burdening domestic energy resource development as and 2] orders the expedited permitting for energy projects deemed essential for national security (<a href="https://www.morganlewis.com/blogs/powerandpipes/2025/01/trump-vance-administration-issues-executive-order-to-promote-american-energy">https://www.morganlewis.com/blogs/powerandpipes/2025/01/trump-vance-administration-issues-executive-order-to-promote-american-energy</a>). The second relates to AI which repealed the previous Biden admin&#8217;s 2023 executive order on AI safety and regulation (<a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/trump-revokes-biden-executive-order-addressing-ai-risks-2025-01-21/">https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/trump-revokes-biden-executive-order-addressing-ai-risks-2025-01-21/</a>; <a href="https://fedscoop.com/trump-rescinds-biden-ai-order-creates-doge-orders-in-person-work/">https://fedscoop.com/trump-rescinds-biden-ai-order-creates-doge-orders-in-person-work/</a>), meanwhile &#8212;just as a sign of how the winds are blowing for new data center development&#8212; a joint venture has been announced between OpenAI, SoftBank and Oracle which plans to invest billions in AI infrastructure development (<a href="https://archive.ph/21IgD">https://archive.ph/21IgD</a>; <a href="https://news3lv.com/news/nation-world/trump-axes-bidens-executive-order-on-artificial-intelligence-plans-to-invest-billions-chat-gpt-apple-ai-elon-musk-sam-altman-openai-congress-legislation-safety-advocates">https://news3lv.com/news/nation-world/trump-axes-bidens-executive-order-on-artificial-intelligence-plans-to-invest-billions-chat-gpt-apple-ai-elon-musk-sam-altman-openai-congress-legislation-safety-advocates</a>). Trump also recently signed an executive order &#8220;removing barriers to American leadership in artificial intelligence&#8221; which is intended to &#8220;revokes certain existing AI policies and directives that act as barriers to American AI innovation, clearing a path for the United States to act decisively to retain global leadership in artificial intelligence&#8221; (<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/removing-barriers-to-american-leadership-in-artificial-intelligence/">https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/removing-barriers-to-american-leadership-in-artificial-intelligence/</a>).</em></p><p><em>Just for fun, we can try to model in the near-term data center opportunities based on comment from management and some info I could find around data center water usage and acreage requirements (<a href="https://dgtlinfra.com/data-center-water-usage/">https://dgtlinfra.com/data-center-water-usage/</a>; <a href="https://westernlandowners.org/water-rights-restoration/">https://westernlandowners.org/water-rights-restoration/</a>; <a href="https://www.cushmanwakefield.com/en/united-states/insights/data-center-development-cost-guide">https://www.cushmanwakefield.com/en/united-states/insights/data-center-development-cost-guide</a>):</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PPQ6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52f8ffcd-484f-456d-817c-659da2388098_1865x698.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PPQ6!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F52f8ffcd-484f-456d-817c-659da2388098_1865x698.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(And this does not take into account any additional easement revenues for the infrastructure that would be required to bring the power and water resources to the facility, nor for the infrastructure easements related to installation of transmission lines, substations, underground cables, or telecommunications infrastructure; not to mention the deflationary element )</em></p><p>**********</p><p>**********<em> UPDATE 20250125: </em></p><p><em>A small Chinese company called DeepSeek recently open-sourced an AI/LLM model of the same name which, to my understanding, was notable not only for beating or performing comparably to the major US LLMs across the most common benchmarks, but for doing so while making massive efficiency gains on training and deployment compute requirements (<a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-just-pledged-hundreds-billions-023900941.html">https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-just-pledged-hundreds-billions-023900941.html</a>; <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/24/how-chinas-new-ai-model-deepseek-is-threatening-us-dominance.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/24/how-chinas-new-ai-model-deepseek-is-threatening-us-dominance.html</a>; <a href="https://archive.ph/2eYBu">https://archive.ph/2eYBu</a>; <a href="https://daily.dev/blog/deepseek-everything-you-need-to-know-about-this-new-llm-in-one-place">https://daily.dev/blog/deepseek-everything-you-need-to-know-about-this-new-llm-in-one-place</a>).</em></p><p><em>My takeaway is that it should be expected that kWh (and subsequently acreage and water) requirements for data centers, for which LB aspires to sell/lease water and acreage in order to facilitate, should come down and be deflationary over the medium- to long-term as tech companies continually improve the efficiency of their technology and algorithms. As evidenced by the recent step-wise efficiency gains of DeepSeek, it appears deflationary forces may be a lot stronger &#8212;and a lot more unpredictable&#8212; than companies expect. I&#8217;d guess that, going forward, companies will be much more cautious about the actual deployment of AI data center capex as they realize that the cost per token of inference for the same volumes of token usage can rapidly decline, sometimes overnight.</em></p><p><em>Consider this in tandem with Jeff Bezos&#8217; vision of AI output as becoming a base layer commodity used in a similar way &#8212;for applications yet to be fully enumerated in the market&#8212; to how water powers a waterwheel or electricity runs your refrigerator (<a href="https://archive.ph/06sOO">https://archive.ph/06sOO</a>). I think a major risk to LB&#8217;s data center thesis in the long-run is that kWh requirements (and thus water and acreage requirements) per unit of AI output ultimately decline over time at a rate much faster than what may be offset by the rate of adoption/integration of AI output such that they necessitate additional data center build-outs. Efficiency gains pull total data center water and land utilization down, while profitable/sustained adoption lifts utilization up; a new data center need not be built if you can just replace an existing facility with more efficient chips running a more efficient model (that performs just as well if not better then the previous one a la DeepSeek). LB owners should hope that <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29899297#:~:text=Basically%20that%20occurs%20when%20an,benefit%20the%20new%20roads%20added.">Jevon&#8217;s Paradox</a> &#8212;as many nervous AI investors are citing&#8212; applies here (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox</a>) strongly enough for incremental data center capacity / infrastructure demand spending to win the tug-of-war vs innovation-driven kWh-per-token deflation.</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gp-j!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9adecb0-5360-47bf-a71b-0f9e50699bf6_1280x1085.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gp-j!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9adecb0-5360-47bf-a71b-0f9e50699bf6_1280x1085.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gp-j!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9adecb0-5360-47bf-a71b-0f9e50699bf6_1280x1085.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gp-j!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9adecb0-5360-47bf-a71b-0f9e50699bf6_1280x1085.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gp-j!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9adecb0-5360-47bf-a71b-0f9e50699bf6_1280x1085.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gp-j!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9adecb0-5360-47bf-a71b-0f9e50699bf6_1280x1085.jpeg" width="1280" height="1085" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c9adecb0-5360-47bf-a71b-0f9e50699bf6_1280x1085.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1085,&quot;width&quot;:1280,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;The Jevons' Paradox Applied to Electromobility - Transport Energy  StrategiesTransport Energy Strategies&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="The Jevons' Paradox Applied to Electromobility - Transport Energy  StrategiesTransport Energy Strategies" title="The Jevons' Paradox Applied to Electromobility - Transport Energy  StrategiesTransport Energy Strategies" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gp-j!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9adecb0-5360-47bf-a71b-0f9e50699bf6_1280x1085.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gp-j!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9adecb0-5360-47bf-a71b-0f9e50699bf6_1280x1085.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gp-j!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9adecb0-5360-47bf-a71b-0f9e50699bf6_1280x1085.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gp-j!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9adecb0-5360-47bf-a71b-0f9e50699bf6_1280x1085.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://transportenergystrategies.com/2023/01/26/the-jevons-paradox-applied-to-electromobility/">https://transportenergystrategies.com/2023/01/26/the-jevons-paradox-applied-to-electromobility/</a>)</em></p><p><em>While LB currently has zero such facilities on their lands at the moment, which I&#8217;m very confident will not remain the case as I don&#8217;t think I we&#8217;re very near whatever steady state resource equilibrium AI efficiency-vs-adoption is going to eventually end up at, the proper multiple on EBITDA, EPS, FCF, or whatever for LB&#8217;s price to reflect that growth into the future is another question.  </em></p><p>**********</p><p>.</p><p>On the whole, not much has changed here since my <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/140186405/bsm-black-stone-minerals-and-other-o-and-g-royalties-of-portfolio-ytd-average-weighted">previous portfolio review</a> where I mentioned that the failure of climate change policies is resulting in an increase in demand for coal, oil, and especially natural gas. It seems likely that governments and businesses, no longer able to hide the inadequacy of green-energy policies, will turn to fossil fuels like natural gas as a more viable option, leading to a surge in demand beyond current forecasts. Investments in oil and gas may become more attractive as the narrative shifts away from strict adherence to ESG ideals.</p><p>The political push away from fossil fuels to green/renewable energy technologies is the first energy transition that is 1] artificially imposed (being legislated into existence vs being pursued by organic market forces seeking a <em>better</em> energy efficiency product), is 2] going from a <em>more</em> efficient energy source to <em>less</em> efficient ones, and 3] attempting to remove, by force, the use of the incumbent (and more efficient) energy source, rather than expecting natural competitive forces to result in the phasing out of the older source (which one would expect to happen if the newer source were actually superior). Green energy politics picked a fight with physics and appears to be losing (<a href="https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-magical-thinking-behind-the-energy-transition">https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-magical-thinking-behind-the-energy-transition</a>; <a href="https://www.hartenergy.com/exclusives/physics-limits-green-dreams-184328">https://www.hartenergy.com/exclusives/physics-limits-green-dreams-184328</a>).</p><p>********** UPDATE 20250225: In a similar vein, this was an interesting article on the realities of the attempted energy transition: <a href="https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/troubled-energy-transition-yergin-orszag-arya">https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/troubled-energy-transition-yergin-orszag-arya</a> </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1be4def1-e2fa-4a4b-b6a6-a8c929dfcb58_1066x480.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1be4def1-e2fa-4a4b-b6a6-a8c929dfcb58_1066x480.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1be4def1-e2fa-4a4b-b6a6-a8c929dfcb58_1066x480.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1be4def1-e2fa-4a4b-b6a6-a8c929dfcb58_1066x480.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>**********</p><p>.</p><p>As AI has been a major stock market theme for 2024, TPL&#8217;s largest stakeholder, Horizon Kinetics, has painted a rosy picture for how some of these holdings may benefit from the recent growth of AI in a recent quarterly commentary (<a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Horizon-Kinetics-Q3-2024-Commentary_Final.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Horizon-Kinetics-Q3-2024-Commentary_Final.pdf</a>, see &#8220;<em>Next Up: When AI Meets the Permian Basin.</em>&#8221;), but I&#8217;m not really sure what to make of that story as of right now &#8212;and it really is <em>just</em> a story at the moment (with Stahl noting that there were no data center construction projects planned for TPL, to his knowledge as a member of the BoD, as of  Sept 5, 2024 (<a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2024_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2024_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a>, see &#8220;<em>Questioner 4</em>&#8221;)).</p><p>In any case, I think the general idea is summarized well here&#8230;</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>[T]here is a significant timing mismatch between the speed with which nuclear plants can be brought online for AI and the urgency of the industry&#8217;s electricity demand. [&#8230;] Things that do the same thing don&#8217;t sell for different prices indefinitely, and hydrocarbons will be no exception. Either by changing the engines or manipulating the molecules or a combination of both, arbitrage will prevail. [&#8230;] As the cleanest-burning hydrocarbon capable of producing a steady supply of baseload electricity, natural gas is inherently well-suited to meet the application&#8217;s needs. If Microsoft is willing to &#8220;overpay&#8221; for nuclear, surely natural gas, which can be rapidly deployed to create electricity at scale, is substantially more valuable than current prices indicate?</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://newsletter.doomberg.com/p/bridge-burning">Doomberg</a> (on AI and energy demand)</p></blockquote><p>.</p><p>There is also the issue of how Trump&#8217;s energy secretary pick, Chris Wright, will affect overall oil prices and production volumes? <a href="https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/business/money-report/what-the-oil-and-gas-industry-wants-from-trump-and-how-the-administration-might-deliver-it/6057142/?os=winDhGBITyl">It seems</a> that the US oil industry would like the Trump admin to expand LNG export capacity and lease more Federal lands for exploration. </p><p>My understanding is that much shale hydrocarbon supply constraints in recent years have been due to <a href="https://www.energyindepth.org/why-bidens-oil-drilling-permits-surge-is-not-what-it-seems/">reduced land leasing</a> and insufficient off-take capacity from drill sites (ie. due to slow or cumbersome Federal land leasing and pipeline development permitting processes from the Biden administration). The incoming Trump admin&#8217;s aim to reduce red tape for private sector development of energy infrastructure could result in increased development and use of surface acres on TPL and LB lands as E&amp;P, oilfield services, and midstream operators see quicker permitting for, say, water handling, sand mining, drilling, and pipeline construction. This could end up being net positive or at least offset the impact of any reduction in oil prices achieved by the Trump admin &#8212;though LB is more directly linked to activity and volumes whereas TPL is much more exposed to oil and gas prices, with more than half of it&#8217;s revenues from generated from mineral interests.</p><p>It seems, in this POV, that LB has similar characteristics to a stock exchange where they make money on &#8220;volumes&#8221;. In the case of a securities exchange it&#8217;s on volume of trades that go through the exchange, while with LB&#8217;s surface rights it&#8217;s about the &#8220;volume&#8221; of drilling activity and other energy projects that require land and water usage (on which LB collects easements, sales revenue, and royalties). While similar to a midstream pipeline owner, LB dosen&#8217;t need to spend anything on maintenance capex and have multiple options for how they can profit from the land they acquire through growth capex that can happen immediately (rather then needing any of their own infrastructure to be up and running beforehand).</p><p>One example I&#8217;ve seen used to demonstrate the magnitude and uses cases for which red-tape-cutting could speed energy infrastructure development &#8212;and ties into the previously-mentioned AI opportunity for surface rights owners in the Permian&#8212; is the data center that was built by Elon Musk (apparently without first getting the proper permitting and circumventing local government approval) to power X/Twitter&#8217;s Grok AI, which &#8212;rather than using a connection to the local electrical grid&#8212; relies primarily on gas turbines and was built in under a month (<a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/musks-xai-operating-gas-turbines-without-permits-data-center-environmental-group-2024-08-28/">https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/musks-xai-operating-gas-turbines-without-permits-data-center-environmental-group-2024-08-28/</a>; <a href="https://time.com/7021709/elon-musk-xai-grok-memphis/">https://time.com/7021709/elon-musk-xai-grok-memphis/</a>; <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/28/musk-xai-accused-of-worsening-memphis-smog-with-unauthorized-turbines.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/28/musk-xai-accused-of-worsening-memphis-smog-with-unauthorized-turbines.html</a>).</p><p>Depending on the balance between natgas production and North America&#8217;s export capacity, greater exports could mean domestic supply deficits and thus higher energy prices. The US currently enjoys much cheaper natgas prices vs the rest of the world as massive amounts of imports of Canadian, Mexican, and US domestic production are bottlenecked and locked into North America due to insufficient export capacity. As more export capacity is built in the US to reach foreign markets &#8212;while the most productive domestic natgas plays begin reaching production plateaus&#8212; US consumers may go from a natgas surplus to shortage as LNG is exported to the rest of the world to profit from the pricing arbitrage and prices balance out somewhere in the middle. This idea is also articulated in the a Goehring &amp; Rozencwajg letter <a href="https://info.gorozen.com/2022-q1-commentary-the-gas-crisis-is-coming-to-america">here</a> and in a MacroVoices interview <a href="https://www.macrovoices.com/podcast-transcripts/1088-dr-anas-alhajji-there-is-no-escaping-the-coming-energy-crisis">here</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4hme!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe44c1a5e-a74f-44ea-bd5d-2e4b7c67d4c1_711x466.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4hme!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe44c1a5e-a74f-44ea-bd5d-2e4b7c67d4c1_711x466.png 424w, 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Better to let others empty their own countries of their domestic natural oil reserves first, as there is no <em>guarantee</em> that a more scalable, energy-efficient, energy-dense, and transportable source of fuel will ever be found to replace it). <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a></p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Every barrel that you use up that comes from somebody else is [one less] barrel of your [own] precious oil which you&#8217;re going to need to feed your people and maintain your civilization.&#8221; ~~~ Charlie Munger</em></p></blockquote><h2>FNV (5%)</h2><p>Whereas cash can hedge a portfolio against deflation caused either by a recession or the Fed&#8217;s response to growthflation, gold hedges a portfolio in situations where inflation simply can&#8217;t be addressed by rate hikes (or where governments do not have the will to use rate hikes due to already-weak economic growth). That is, I see cash as a (managed-)growthflation hedge and gold as a stagflation hedge &#8212;and both as a valid recession hedge (if/when governments cut rates).</p><p>.</p><p>Looking at the movements of <a href="https://www.longtermtrends.net/gold-vs-real-yields/">gold vs real rates</a>, which typically move inversely to each other, we see that trend has departed over the last 2 years <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a>:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NTr3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04af5578-1931-4941-b510-89a2385572d4_1722x426.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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(<em>I suppose you may have to ask yourself: Who is more sophisticated? The bond market or gold market? Who really moves the respective markets the most?</em>) Central Banks have been net gold buyers through 2024 (<a href="https://www.gold.org/goldhub/gold-focus/2024/12/central-bank-gold-statistics-october-2024">https://www.gold.org/goldhub/gold-focus/2024/12/central-bank-gold-statistics-october-2024</a>; <a href="https://www.gold.org/goldhub/research/gold-demand-trends/gold-demand-trends-q3-2024/central-banks">https://www.gold.org/goldhub/research/gold-demand-trends/gold-demand-trends-q3-2024/central-banks</a>) and one may be inclined to say that CBs know something others don&#8217;t <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a>. (BTW, I&#8217;d note that the CB net buying figures that I often see in major news outlets are usually all sourced from the World Gold Council who include confidential <em>estimates</em> factored to their buy/sell figures that should be taken with a big grain of salt (<a href="https://www.bullionstar.us/blogs/ronan-manly/gold-remains-strong-as-central-banks-sustain-upward-gold-buying-trend-in-2024/">https://www.bullionstar.us/blogs/ronan-manly/gold-remains-strong-as-central-banks-sustain-upward-gold-buying-trend-in-2024/</a>)).</p><p>.</p><p>FNV posted a 12% decline in YoY earnings and 11% decline in YoY revenue for 2024Q3. The stock fell a corresponding 15% from $133 to a low of $113 in the following days. These issues were mainly due to slower-than-expected ramp-ups at new mines and lower grades and production figures at the Candelaria open-pit mine due to underground cavities from previous, underground mining activity. (<a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/franco-nevada-earnings-miss-estimates-172800074.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/franco-nevada-earnings-miss-estimates-172800074.html</a>)</p><p>When an open-pit mine expands downwards, it also has to expand horizontally &#8212;you&#8217;re essentially excavating a pyramid shape into the earth. When the pit walls are nearing underground cavities from older mines &#8212;or if their expansion would result in such&#8212; this <a href="https://www.bba.ca/us-en/publications/challenges-to-open-pit-mining-through-historic-underground-workings">creates additional issues</a> of wall stability that have to be worked around.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5NrW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feecc403f-999a-4e73-b0b4-5ce6a70acdcf_709x644.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5NrW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feecc403f-999a-4e73-b0b4-5ce6a70acdcf_709x644.png 424w, 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This issue of delivery mismatch causing the superficial appearance of overall GEO-delivery weakness from the mine and FNV&#8217;s expectation of &#8220;<em>a stronger quarter for GEOs delivered and sold from Candelaria for Q4</em>&#8221; seems to be corroborated by the Candelaria operator, Lundin Mining&#8217;s, 2024Q3 call (which was on the same date as FNV&#8217;s) which described Q3 as &#8220;<em>one of Candelaria&#8217;s strongest quarters on record.</em>&#8221; (Though note that Lundin&#8217;s primary interest at the mine is copper, vs gold for FNV, and FNV mentions that &#8220;<em>Lundin Mining has revised its 2024 gold production guidance for Candelaria at lower</em>&#8221;). Overall, I take the Candelaria issue as temporary or overblown, while I chalk up the ramp-up delays at new mines as forgivable.</p><p>Thus &#8212;<em>assuming</em> no massive decline in gold prices&#8212; I&#8217;m inclined to think FNV should still be priced at around that $133/sh level, ex-Cobre. As I&#8217;m writing this, the stock has already recovered to around $120/sh.</p><p>.</p><p>I was recently re-reading some old copies of &#8220;The Micro Cap &amp; OTC Stock Letter&#8221; by Marcus Frampton, CIO of the state-owned Alaska Permanent Fund, and thought Frampton POV on gold in a portfolio was interesting. (The site is no longer maintained, not sure what happened to it, but you can read some of the old posts <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220410161244/https://www.microcapletter.com/">here</a> (if you click through the back-issues, it takes a few seconds to load the PDFs, but it does still work)). What Frampton mentions in these letters is his use of gold ETFs as a hedge on a dollar-for-dollar basis against his microcap positions, partial reason being that those microcaps were very often too illiquid to directly short or to hedge via options. Frampton also included gold as a way of diversifying correlations in his portfolio and hedging market volatility and inflation &#8212;providing opportunities to rebalance and &#8220;sell high and buy low&#8221; when one side of this uncorrelated barbell rose as the other fell depending on market conditions. </p><p>Like I mention in my initial Franco Nevada post, the company&#8217;s fundamentals are rather uncorrelated from the rest of the market. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kKsJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F31f0a747-6fec-4c2c-81f3-eef4f79deeaa_1822x1126.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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operating rate, that would be roughly a 30% increase in our GEOs and revenues</em>&#8221; per the 2024Q3 earnings call, around the same upside I valued the Cobre re-opening at in my initial FNV post</p></li><li><p>the recent Q3 weakness that I see as largely temporary </p></li><li><p>plus the fact that the business is basically just ownership of a big vault of gold, distributed underground and around the world, </p></li></ul><p>&#8230; I plan to use it as my &#8220;gold ETF&#8221; portfolio diversifier in a similar fashion as Frampton.</p><p>Like I mentioned earlier, gold hedges a portfolio in situations where inflation can&#8217;t be solved by rate hikes (or where governments do not want to use rate hikes due to already-weak economic growth). That is, I see cash as a growthflation hedge and gold as a stagflation hedge &#8212;and both cash and gold as a valid deflation hedge when governments cut rates. Meanwhile, around 16-17% of FNV&#8217;s revenues are also generated from royalties on energy assets which benefit in growthflation and Goldilocks environments and slightly hedge FNV&#8217;s gold portfolio in these scenarios where it tends to do less well. Furthermore, gold is also commonly thought of as a hedge against political volatility and the Trump Presidency is more likely than not going to be a volatile one (<a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/wall-street-girds-trump-20-tariffs-tax-cuts-volatility-2024-11-06/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/wall-street-girds-trump-20-tariffs-tax-cuts-volatility-2024-11-06/</a>). </p><p>My current PT for FNV is $152/sh with the expectation that Cobre is re-opened in 2025.</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;c4fb6cde-d323-4691-a146-7f0c89ed0041&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;********** UPDATE 20241126: In a recent interview (https://www.mining.com/&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($FNV) Franco-Nevada Corporation: Gold royalty royalty in temporary turmoil&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2024-02-02T23:45:25.349Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb70ae4c0-84d2-4400-9fe7-9c548ddde300_2100x2348.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/fnv-franco-nevada-corporation-gold&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:140784655,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:7,&quot;comment_count&quot;:2,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>*One problem I have with gold investments as a portfolio hedge is that gold itself, while having a rather Lindy global acceptance through human history as a store-of-value asset, is not a <em>productive</em> asset &#8212;aliens might find FNV not too different than a purveyor of Beanbag Babies. To this end, I think that a business like OTC Markets might be a better investment (which also benefits from inflation as well as market volatility, remaining profitable through 2007-2009 as well as through every quarter of the 2020 global shutdown and the 2022 inflation shock). However, I think that it has <a href="https://substack.com/@lemoncakesinvesting/note/c-79297622">it&#8217;s own problems</a> and most importantly, unlike FNV, I think is fairly valued at the moment.</p><p>In any case, unless this decade is finally the one out of the hundreds of years of prior human history where everyone finally decides that gold is not a legitimate store of value (in which case I hope Bitcoin is agreed upon as a replacement rather than a as a similar liability), then I think FNV will at least be a you-don&#8217;t-lose-too-much investment.</p><p>.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! Leave and like and subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Maybe it would be even better to use an equal-weighted version to further mitigate survivorship bias of a cap-weighted index as well as compare performance against the opportunity cost of some default portfolio of existing capital allocators that I&#8217;d have realistically been comfortable setting-and-forgetting my money with (eg. a mix of Berkshire, Markel, FRMO Corp. / RENN Fund, money market funds, et al).</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is what my quick analysis actually showed for GEO&#8217;s <em>historical</em> relationship with the market&#8230;</p><p>Here compared against my &#8220;market&#8221; proxies: Berkshire, Johnson &amp; Johnson, and Proctor &amp; Gamble over a 20-year period:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ace7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa741370b-9594-430c-a9ec-521188f0bf39_598x111.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTQf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ae888b4-96ef-48e8-b3bc-52d9865776f6_1610x994.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTQf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ae888b4-96ef-48e8-b3bc-52d9865776f6_1610x994.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTQf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ae888b4-96ef-48e8-b3bc-52d9865776f6_1610x994.png 848w, 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Here we make a scatter plot with SPY quarterly price changes in the X axis and the target stock&#8217;s price changes in the Y axis (note that these are plotted totally independent of the time the occurred):</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aVay!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ef05c84-9f4e-425e-8e1e-db8f09cf5571_1200x742.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aVay!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ef05c84-9f4e-425e-8e1e-db8f09cf5571_1200x742.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MH5Y!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0e37124-7fda-4c62-b815-041a6c769ce7_625x132.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MH5Y!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0e37124-7fda-4c62-b815-041a6c769ce7_625x132.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MH5Y!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0e37124-7fda-4c62-b815-041a6c769ce7_625x132.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The R-squared values mean that if R^2=X for a linear regression line, then (100*X)% of the variability in the Y-axis variable is explain by the line derived from the X-axis (ie. the quarterly price changes in the S&amp;P 500). In this case, we can see that virtually 0% of change in GEO stock are generally explained by price level changes in the wider market, whereas BRK and JNJ stock changes are explained to a much greater degree by the wider market (IDK what to make of PG). This these R-squared relationships hold even when I try to &#8220;over-fit&#8221; the curves to the data by adding higher degrees of polynomials to the linear models. This is not exhaustive (eg. chopping up data across time or, say, defined market &#8220;eras&#8221; or leaving out subsets, etc.), but it passes my &#8220;<em>yeah, ok, good enough</em>&#8221; threshold for believing that GEO is indeed non-correlated with the rest of the market.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nXd_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faae11296-d16c-428e-9e67-e97463c04ec2_1200x742.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nXd_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faae11296-d16c-428e-9e67-e97463c04ec2_1200x742.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nXd_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faae11296-d16c-428e-9e67-e97463c04ec2_1200x742.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nXd_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faae11296-d16c-428e-9e67-e97463c04ec2_1200x742.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nXd_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faae11296-d16c-428e-9e67-e97463c04ec2_1200x742.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nXd_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faae11296-d16c-428e-9e67-e97463c04ec2_1200x742.png" width="1200" height="742" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">(Correlation GEO-SPY = 0.15)</figcaption></figure></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Of course, the resource quality and quantity underlying a piece of land can vary from acre to acre as well as the logistical convenience of extracting resources from &#8212;or developing other infrastructure through&#8212; any given acre, but I&#8217;m pretty sure TPL and LB are similar in this respect as well.</p><p> </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The prospectus is also interesting as it includes maps that highlight the attractiveness of LB&#8217;s Delaware basin acreage in terms of relative total recoverable oil reserves on their lands as well as the relative amounts of produced water as a byproduct of oil well operations on those lands that then must be transported, treated, and disposed of or recycled &#8212;with LB collecting right-of-way, easement, and royalty fees throughout this process. The maps also help to give one a sense of LB&#8217;s ownership ratio of and proximity, or planned pipeline connections, to the overlapping areas of the more oil-rich &#8212;and high water producing (produced water-to-oil ratio, WOR)&#8212; land within the Delaware basin. LB highlights that &#8220;<em>as of April 25, 2024, within the Delaware Basin, approximately 52% of active drilling rigs, 50% of active drilling permits and 52% of drilled but uncompleted wells (&#8220;DUCs&#8221;) were located within 10 miles of our land position.</em>&#8221; Keep in mind that even if there is no pipeline connecting water resources on LB land to a particular area, operators there can still buy brackish water from &#8212;for well drilling and fracking <a href="https://www.epa.gov/natural-gas-star-program/well-completions-and-workovers">completions</a>&#8212; and dispose of produced water into &#8212;as a byproduct of fracking as well as naturally occuring within formations that must then be separated from extracted O&amp;G&#8212; LB property via tanker trucks to transport the water. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YTSG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff48bb0f9-594d-4dff-8280-2d273ec7bfb7_690x361.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YTSG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff48bb0f9-594d-4dff-8280-2d273ec7bfb7_690x361.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YTSG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff48bb0f9-594d-4dff-8280-2d273ec7bfb7_690x361.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YTSG!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff48bb0f9-594d-4dff-8280-2d273ec7bfb7_690x361.jpeg 1272w, 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href="https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/documents/21_McCurdy_-_UIC_Disposal_508.pdf">https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/documents/21_McCurdy_-_UIC_Disposal_508.pdf</a>; <a href="https://www.gwpc.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Pore_Space_Occ___FINAL.pdf">https://www.gwpc.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Pore_Space_Occ___FINAL.pdf</a>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JbFT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4db57427-2960-4159-aa68-ee6440334b1b_1774x701.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JbFT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4db57427-2960-4159-aa68-ee6440334b1b_1774x701.png 424w, 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My thinking on this simply comes from the fact that the AMI agreement between TPL and WaterBridge give WB exclusive rights to market produced water in the AMI, but the prospectus also mentions sourcing water into New Mexico and the LB acreage within the AMI is directly above a particularly thick area of the Pecos Valley aquifer (which can be seen directly south of the intersection of the Eddy, Lea, and Loving county border intersection in surveys). (In combination with their positioning along the New Mexico boarder to most directly facilitate the regulatory arbitrage on the more development-friendly Texas side in the shortest distance, I think this (sizable) positioning above and around some of the thickest parts of the Pecos aquifer makes LB&#8217;s acreage particularly attractive vs other surface rights owners in the Delaware basin).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qa3q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7bf6a78f-2fa7-42f6-a42c-23e13ac29f40_577x469.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qa3q!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7bf6a78f-2fa7-42f6-a42c-23e13ac29f40_577x469.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qa3q!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7bf6a78f-2fa7-42f6-a42c-23e13ac29f40_577x469.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qa3q!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7bf6a78f-2fa7-42f6-a42c-23e13ac29f40_577x469.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qa3q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7bf6a78f-2fa7-42f6-a42c-23e13ac29f40_577x469.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qa3q!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7bf6a78f-2fa7-42f6-a42c-23e13ac29f40_577x469.png" width="577" height="469" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7bf6a78f-2fa7-42f6-a42c-23e13ac29f40_577x469.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:469,&quot;width&quot;:577,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:293439,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<a href="https://www.twdb.texas.gov/publications/reports/numbered_reports/doc/R382_PecosValley.pdf">https://www.twdb.texas.gov/publications/reports/numbered_reports/doc/R382_PecosValley.pdf</a>; this has some other interesting maps as well)</p><p>Meanwhile, the planned facilities in central Stateline position (between Loving and Winkler) are likely more for produced water recycling/disposal in Loving and brackish sourcing in Winkler (only because those dots in Winkler are atop a particularly water-rich region of the Capitan Reef minor aquifer within the major Pecos aquifer). From the pore pressure map in their prospectus, we can assume that the planned facilities in north Winkler and Andrews are going to be much more geared towards recycling/disposal facilities. **********  </p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>See LB&#8217;s 2024Q3 earnings call for more on this discussion.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>From LB&#8217;s 2024Q3 10Q&#8230; &#8220;<em>Surface use royalties increased by $12.4 million, or 144%, to $21.0 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2024, as compared to $8.6 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2023.</em>&#8221; Furthermore, &#8220;<em>[e]asements and other surface-related revenues increased by $4.3 million, or 187%, to $6.6 million for the three months ended September 30, 2024, as compared to $2.3 million for the three months ended September 30, 2023. The increase was primarily attributable to oil and gas transportation and gathering pipelines and produced water handling infrastructure of $3.4 million</em>&#8221;. That is, 79% of that same-period YoY easement revenue increase was due to WaterBridge infrastructure build-out (I assume largely due to the Devon Energy partnership). This is a major uplift to revenues and I wonder how sustainable this kind of growth will be going forward.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>********** UPDATE 20250108: I thought <a href="https://www.construction-physics.com/p/energy-cheat-sheet">this article</a> was very apropos. **********</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note that the apparent matching of curves in this image by shifting and/or scaling axes does not *necessarily* indicate that, for example, inverse real rates could be used to create a well-fitting linear regression curve against gold prices; IDK where I&#8217;d get the data to do this at the moment. Also note that this latter chart does not imply that gold and rates are at risk to snap back or revert, as the chart is showing historical correlation of *movements* rather than, say, historical parity of *values* &#8212;unless a linear regression model did indeed show that inverse real rates significantly predicted gold prices, then maybe you could make a mean-reversion case about the recent divergence if it could be explained by factors that were mostly temporary (though it would be based on the hypothetical regression line, not the line in this chart).</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Really, I&#8217;d need to see the base rates of net gold buying by CBs to make a comment on this</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[($PMD) Psychemedics Corp: Hair today, sold tomorrow]]></title><description><![CDATA[...well, eventually... probably. Quick idea to ride along a going-private bet-the-jockey investment.]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/pmd-psychemedics-corp-hair-today</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/pmd-psychemedics-corp-hair-today</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 02 Dec 2024 07:07:33 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/21442f0f-fc10-492d-9a1a-bca8cdb8ba3c_503x280.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<ul><li><p>Ticker: PMD</p></li><li><p>Marketcap: $14MM</p></li><li><p>Price: $2.35 </p></li><li><p>PT: $8</p></li><li><p>Payback period: 3yr - 4yrs</p></li><li><p>Upside CAGR: 52% - 28% </p></li><li><p>Downside: $1.60</p></li><li><p>Downside CAGR: -12 - -9% <br></p></li></ul><p>IDK when exactly the take-private reverse/forward split is scheduled to happen, but it already got the required votes at the Nov 25, 2024 shareholder meeting (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324006571/0001171843-24-006571-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324006571/0001171843-24-006571-index.html</a>), so I&#8217;d expect it to happen rather soon &#8212;it could happen tomorrow as far as I know&#8212; and so I&#8217;m just trying to quickly write this over the weekend based on my existing saved notes (and will update this post with smaller details I might have skipped if more time passes between now the actual event). This is well enough, as the idea is rather simple.</p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20241213: Psychemedics is now trading under the ticket PMDI on the OTC Pink sheets (<a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/PMDI/overview">https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/PMDI/overview</a>). From the take-private proxy: &#8220;We expect the delisting of our common stock will be effective 10 days after we file the Form 25 with the SEC and the deregistration of our common stock under Section 12(b) of the Exchange Act will take effect 90 days after the filing of the Form 25.&#8221; However, the company filed the Form 25 today and it is already trading on the OTC markets under the ticker PMDI and the PMD ticker on the NASDAQ has stopped trading (as opposed to a 10-day delay); there is ostensibly 90 days remaining before they deregister the with the SEC and are freed from certain reporting requirements (which may result in the stock moving from the Pinks to the Expert Market). Meanwhile, the price has dropped significantly (to $1.70/sh at the time of this writing) &#8212;which is just as well as I was planning on marking the position to zero until an eventual sale of the business or other final outcome, assuming that it would only trade on the OTC Expert Market after deregistration&#8212; so maybe I should have waited to buy (and maybe I will add a bit if the price gets really low, keeping in mind that the last two quarters reported TBV/sh of $0.99-0.92). However, I had some uncertainty has to how fast exactly things would move after the split in terms of delisting (as demonstrated by the immediate delisting after the Form 25 filing) and how liquidity would look on the other side, so I wanted to make sure I got the shares I wanted before things started moving. In any case the intermediate volatility isn&#8217;t an issue for the ultimate business-sale thesis (not to say that <a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/lemoncakesinvesting/p/pmd-psychemedics-corp-hair-today?r=ywarc&amp;utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;comments=true&amp;commentId=79982731">other things can&#8217;t go wrong</a> before that end of the tunnel).</em> </p><p><em>I was also asked about Kamin&#8217;s latest selling activity in a recent Form 4 filing (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000142050624002619/0001420506-24-002619-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000142050624002619/0001420506-24-002619-index.html</a>). If my interpretation of the footnotes is correct, it looks like Kamin (indirectly through 3k) sold some amount of shares back to PMD (now PMDI on the OTC Pinks) for the reason that they ended up buying more than originally estimated would be required &#8220;following the final determination of the purchase price required to purchase fractional shares in the Issuer&#8217;s recently completed reverse stock split.&#8221; (ie. they bought more than needed to buy out the fractional shares expected in the recent split). Note that even after this sale, Kamin has still nearly tripled-down on his position (which was bought at much higher costs basis), going from 647,737 shares (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117152024000290/0001171520-24-000290-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117152024000290/0001171520-24-000290-index.html</a>) to 1,736,741 (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117152024000386/0001171520-24-000386-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117152024000386/0001171520-24-000386-index.html</a>).</em></p><p>**********</p><p>********** </p><p><em>UPDATE 20241202: So it looks like the split ratio is going to be 1-for-5000 on December 3 after market close and the ticker will continue to trade publicly thereafter for the time being. </em></p><blockquote><p><em>[T]he Company&#8217;s Board of Directors has approved a 1-for-5,000 reverse stock split of its common stock (the &#8220;Reverse Stock Split&#8221;) followed immediately by a <strong>5,000-for-1</strong> forward stock split of its common stock (the &#8220;Forward Stock Split,&#8221; and together with the Reverse Stock Split, the &#8220;Stock Split&#8221;), to be effective at 5:01 p.m. and 5:02 p.m., Eastern Time, respectively, <strong>on Tuesday, December 3, 2024</strong>. Beginning with the opening of trading on <strong>Wednesday, December 4, 2024, the Company&#8217;s common stock will continue to trade on the Nasdaq Capital Market</strong> on a post-Forward Stock Split basis under the existing symbol &#8220;PMD&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2024/12/02/2989790/0/en/Psychemedics-Corporation-Announces-Reverse-and-Forward-Stock-Split.html">https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2024/12/02/2989790/0/en/Psychemedics-Corporation-Announces-Reverse-and-Forward-Stock-Split.html</a> </em></p></blockquote><p><em>I&#8217;d expect the stock may drop lower after this as those who were buying/holding shares for the cash-in-lieu from the take-private spread go away &#8212;though the market might also take Kamin&#8217;s tripling-down as a bullish signal of confidence. This may be a better time for anyone interested in holding through the take-private and betting on a later sale of the company to buy at a lower price. May buy a bit more if it goes low enough, though note also that liquidity could to be a lot tighter after the split and many of the remaining shareholders are more likely to be those that intend to hold the shares into the going-dark phase. </em></p><p><em>Per the deal proxy, there should be 88 days between now and the delisting (iff the company files all the necessary paperwork with the SEC right after the split).</em> </p><blockquote><p><em>The suspension of our obligation to file periodic reports and other documents under the Exchange Act will become effective after the filing with the SEC of both a notice of removal from listing of our common stock from listing on the Nasdaq Capital Market and termination of registration under Section 12(b) of the Exchange Act on Form 25, and a certification and notice of termination of registration on Form 15. The deregistration of our common stock under Section 12(b) of the Exchange Act will take effect 90 days after the filing of the Form 25 and the deregistration of our common stock under other provisions of the Exchange Act will become effective 90 days after the filing of the Form 15. ~~~ <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005690/0001171843-24-005690-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005690/0001171843-24-005690-index.html</a></em></p></blockquote><p>**********</p><h1>TLDR</h1><p>Opportunity to bet-the-jockey and follow well-known activist nanocap investor, Peter Kamin, into an going-private deal as he triples down on his existing stake in hair-based drug testing company, Psychemedics, and takes it private to &#8212;I believe&#8212; re-work the cost structure and eventually facilitate a sale of the company himself after several failed attempts by previous management whom he&#8217;s now eliminated from the company. His track record with getting on the board of companies that are later acquired at a higher price is good and at the very least you&#8217;re unlikely to lose money at the current price. The incoming Trump admin in planning on taking tougher stance on the fentanyl epidemic in the US (<a href="https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/ondcp/the-administrations-approach/the-administrations-strategy/">https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/ondcp/the-administrations-approach/the-administrations-strategy/</a>) in 2025 and serves a nice potential bonus as well that could increase the value of PMD&#8217;s drug testing product/services in the coming years.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-dfm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46b8eee4-ec69-4fcd-a085-ab29c1ee564d_503x280.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>Business</h1><p>Psychemedics Corporation is the world&#8217;s largest provider of hair testing for drugs of abuse. The company utilizes a patented hair analysis method to detect the presence of drugs of abuse in human hair samples. This method involves three steps:</p><ol><li><p>Hair Digestion: A patented technology is used to digest the hair sample and release the drugs trapped within it without destroying the drugs themselves. This step ensures that virtually 100% of the drug is extracted for accurate measurement. </p></li><li><p>Enzyme Immunoassay (EIA): A proprietary and patented enzyme immunoassay (EIA) is performed on the liquid supernatant above the residue material obtained from the digested hair. This test helps detect the presence of specific drugs. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r000!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F252985c1-6c44-497f-b1b2-254e6fd212f0_640x587.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r000!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F252985c1-6c44-497f-b1b2-254e6fd212f0_640x587.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r000!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F252985c1-6c44-497f-b1b2-254e6fd212f0_640x587.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r000!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F252985c1-6c44-497f-b1b2-254e6fd212f0_640x587.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r000!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F252985c1-6c44-497f-b1b2-254e6fd212f0_640x587.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r000!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F252985c1-6c44-497f-b1b2-254e6fd212f0_640x587.png" width="352" height="322.85" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/252985c1-6c44-497f-b1b2-254e6fd212f0_640x587.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:587,&quot;width&quot;:640,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:352,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/...&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/..." title="upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/..." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r000!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F252985c1-6c44-497f-b1b2-254e6fd212f0_640x587.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r000!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F252985c1-6c44-497f-b1b2-254e6fd212f0_640x587.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r000!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F252985c1-6c44-497f-b1b2-254e6fd212f0_640x587.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r000!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F252985c1-6c44-497f-b1b2-254e6fd212f0_640x587.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div></li><li><p>Mass Spectrometry Confirmation: The results from the EIA are confirmed using mass spectrometry, a highly sensitive and accurate analytical technique. This step ensures the reliability and validity of the test results. Not that it really matters for our purposes, but I thought these videos on how mass spectrometry is used to identify elements were interesting&#8230;  </p><div id="youtube2-a6UZcCDnicQ" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;a6UZcCDnicQ&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/a6UZcCDnicQ?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><div id="youtube2-myolF-h1kKI" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;myolF-h1kKI&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/myolF-h1kKI?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div></li></ol><p>PMD serves a diverse customer base, including:</p><ul><li><p>Fortune 500 companies</p></li><li><p>Small to mid-size corporations</p></li><li><p>Schools</p></li><li><p>Government entities</p></li></ul><h1>Management and setup</h1><p>Prior to Kamin&#8217;s active involvement in the company, PMD had been run by CEO and Chairman Raymond C. Kubacki since 1991. Under his management, the company&#8217;s stock price saw some periods of volatile spikes, but generally languished and had declined severely by 2021. Meanwhile revenues had remained stagnant (really declining, in inflation-adjusted terms) notwithstanding a breif revenue boost from the Brazilian drug testing market (2015/2016 - 2019) due to the passage of a favorable 2015 law in the country. However, this ultimately turned out to be an unprofitable boondoggle (see &#8220;Distribution&#8221; and MD&amp;A section re. revenues in the 2019 10K, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184320001248/0001171843-20-001248-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184320001248/0001171843-20-001248-index.htm</a>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tT9k!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e121282-e8b2-445a-bb68-ae14dc08371a_1042x574.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>&#8230; These were some of the primary complaints raised against the company&#8217;s unjustifiably-tenured management team, as he might put it, by well-known smallcap investor, Peter Kamin, in his public letter to the board on September 23, 2021 (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/937541/000092189521002309/0000921895-21-002309-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/937541/000092189521002309/0000921895-21-002309-index.html</a>). The letter itself serves as a nice basic checklist for things you don&#8217;t want to see from a management team&#8230;</p><blockquote><p><em>As you are aware, I am one of the largest stockholders of Psychemedics Corporation (&#8220;Psychemedics&#8221; or the &#8220;Company&#8221;), owning approximately 8.4% of the outstanding shares of common stock of the Company. I have decided to send this letter as a follow-up to my September 14, 2021 private letter (the &#8220;September 14 Letter&#8221;) to the Company&#8217;s Board of Directors (the &#8220;Board&#8221;). [&#8230;] [B]y any measure, the Company has vastly underperformed any minimal expectation of performance and/or profitability under Mr. Kubacki&#8217;s leadership. On an inflation adjusted basis, the Company&#8217;s revenues are lower and its stock price is less today than when Mr. Kubacki became CEO 30 years ago in 1991. [&#8230;] [E]ach of the current Directors have <strong>served for over 18 years</strong>, and in the case of lead Director, Fred Weinert (&#8220;Mr. Weinert&#8221;), for over 30 years. [&#8230;] [T]he Board and management collectively <strong>own less then 7% of the Company</strong> &#8211; and these amounts are almost irrelevant relative to the rest of their compensation package. [&#8230;] Even more alarming to me than the Board&#8217;s failure to govern the Company was its recent decision to downplay an apparent approach from a third party concerning a potential strategic process. [&#8230;] Mr. Kubacki and this Board, with a thirty-year track record of underperformance, owes us an obligation <strong>to publicly commit to conducting a transparent, robust and unobstructed sale process</strong>. I believe there may be many strategic buyers for Psychemedics and I urge the Board to consider any strategic alternatives that will generate superior returns for stockholders. I also strongly urge the Board to retain a nationally recognized investment bank and to form a special strategic committee chaired by Director, Robyn Davis to initiate an objective and comprehensive strategic review of the Company. ~~~ Peter Kamin to PMD&#8217;s BoD (emphasis included from original letter)</em></p></blockquote><p>Kamin is a rather famous activist in nano/smallcap investing circles and not for no reason. Looking at all of the public companies that Kamin has been involved in over the years (<a href="https://investors.tileshop.com/board-member/peter-kamin">https://investors.tileshop.com/board-member/peter-kamin</a>; <a href="https://www.marketscreener.com/insider/PETER-KAMIN-A00KKI/">https://www.marketscreener.com/insider/PETER-KAMIN-A00KKI/</a>), we can see that his participation is usually a net positive and usually materially so vs general market returns:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ys0S!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3b3eb3a-404f-4d68-91f7-fd50cdc0c33a_1705x235.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ys0S!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3b3eb3a-404f-4d68-91f7-fd50cdc0c33a_1705x235.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ys0S!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3b3eb3a-404f-4d68-91f7-fd50cdc0c33a_1705x235.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ys0S!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3b3eb3a-404f-4d68-91f7-fd50cdc0c33a_1705x235.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ys0S!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3b3eb3a-404f-4d68-91f7-fd50cdc0c33a_1705x235.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ys0S!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3b3eb3a-404f-4d68-91f7-fd50cdc0c33a_1705x235.png" width="1468" height="202.6565934065934" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e3b3eb3a-404f-4d68-91f7-fd50cdc0c33a_1705x235.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:201,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1468,&quot;bytes&quot;:148208,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ys0S!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3b3eb3a-404f-4d68-91f7-fd50cdc0c33a_1705x235.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ys0S!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3b3eb3a-404f-4d68-91f7-fd50cdc0c33a_1705x235.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ys0S!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3b3eb3a-404f-4d68-91f7-fd50cdc0c33a_1705x235.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ys0S!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe3b3eb3a-404f-4d68-91f7-fd50cdc0c33a_1705x235.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>By June of the next year, about eight months after filing his public letter, Kamin and Darius G. Nevin (whose expertise appears to be in advising private equity firms) were jointly appointed to the board or directors as part of a cooperation agreement with PMD and Kamin&#8217;s hedge fund, 3K L.P. (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184322004265/0001171843-22-004265-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184322004265/0001171843-22-004265-index.htm</a>). (Nevin&#8217;s direct association to Kamin and the takeover are further solidified by the fact that Nevin was identified as a director &#8220;affiliated with the Investors&#8221; (ie. Kamin and his associated entities) in the context of the going dark transaction), <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005690/0001171843-24-005690-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005690/0001171843-24-005690-index.html</a>).</p><p>CEO Kubacki would also be replaced by Brian Hullinger two month after that on August 17, 2023 and Kubacki&#8217;s Chairman titled appointed to Nevin (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184323004498/0001171843-23-004498-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184323004498/0001171843-23-004498-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184323005387/0001171843-23-005387-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184323005387/0001171843-23-005387-index.html</a>). In a near exact inverse ratio to Kubacki&#8217;s past compensation, Hullinger&#8217;s compensation for 2023 was comprised of around 80% stock option awards (that would vest in 3rds over a 10yr period) and 20% cash compensation (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324001671/pmd20231231_10k.htm">https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324001671/pmd20231231_10k.htm</a>).  </p><p>Examining the BoD and exec team of the company in the year prior to Kamin&#8217;s appointment to the board vs the composition right before the take-private announcement, we see that only two of the original nine members remained (Robyn C. Davis and Andrew M. Reynolds). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hqdP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe49a8111-cd53-48a0-9537-acf5681bd768_1539x359.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hqdP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe49a8111-cd53-48a0-9537-acf5681bd768_1539x359.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hqdP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe49a8111-cd53-48a0-9537-acf5681bd768_1539x359.png 848w, 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Now it looks like he&#8217;s kicked out most of the old management team and is going to get the company ready for a sale himself, starting with cutting the time and reporting costs of remaining a public company. On Aug 12, 2024, the company announced the negotiated offer from Kamin&#8217;s 3K L.P. to take the company private in a reverse/forward stock split that will cash out minority shareholders of (at least) lesser than 4000 shares at $2.35/sh before the delisting and deregistration of the company&#8217;s common stock with the SEC.</p><p>Post-take-private, Kamin will own around 35% of the company&#8217;s common stock. that is, he is more than tripling down on the size <em>and value</em> of his existing position (given that all his other buys were at a higher cost basis than current price) from 624,737 shares as of the latest 13D filing with an additional 1,595,744 shares post-transaction (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/?r=el#/q=kamin&amp;category=form-cat3&amp;ciks=0000806517&amp;entityName=PSYCHEMEDICS%2520CORP%2520(PMD)%2520(CIK%25200000806517)">https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/?r=el#/q=kamin&amp;category=form-cat3&amp;ciks=0000806517&amp;entityName=PSYCHEMEDICS%2520CORP%2520(PMD)%2520(CIK%25200000806517)</a>). Additionally, his hedge fund 3K L.P. will have the right to designate 2 directors and limit the total BoD seats to 5; he will essentially have total control of the board given that he is also on the BoD and the 4th seat is occupied by Chairman Nevin who was appointed as part of the original cooperation agreement between PMD and Kamin&#8217;s 3K L.P.</p><p>Below is a graphical timeline of the relevant events &#8212;I think things are a bit more understandable in this visual form, though at the expense of being able to add the relevant filing links. (In any case, most of the relevant timeline and deal details can be read about in the proxy related to the going-dark transaction here <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005690/0001171843-24-005690-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005690/0001171843-24-005690-index.html</a>). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L_ch!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7c66b8c-7e7a-4154-938f-626db79767a3_1687x766.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!L_ch!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7c66b8c-7e7a-4154-938f-626db79767a3_1687x766.png 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>Base image from <a href="https://www.insidearbitrage.com/symbol-metrics/PMD/insider-transactions">https://www.insidearbitrage.com/symbol-metrics/PMD/insider-transactions</a></em>)</p><p>(Note that most of the details of the 2020 strategic review, including the $12.00 offer, were mostly left hidden/opaque to investors at the time &#8212;as decried by Kamin in his 2021 letter&#8212; and were only revealed in 2024 via the definitive proxy related to Kamin&#8217;s take-private offer. It may be relevant to keep in mind that he increased his stake to 10.99% in April before actually joining the BoD in June, so it&#8217;s somewhat unlikely that this $12.00 price point informed his buying at the time.)</p><p>.</p><p>Before joining the company&#8217;s BoD, Kamin owned ~8.4% of shares. Examining his public filings, it appears that around half of this block was acquired at a cost basis of around $4.50 (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/937541/000117152020000488/0001171520-20-000488-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/937541/000117152020000488/0001171520-20-000488-index.html</a>) and the other half at around, say, $7.00 (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/937541/000092189521002154/0000921895-21-002154-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/937541/000092189521002154/0000921895-21-002154-index.html</a>). Some months after writing his letter to management, we see that he later upped his stake to 11% at a cost basis of around $6.50 - $7.00 (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/937541/000092189522001328/0000921895-22-001328-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/937541/000092189522001328/0000921895-22-001328-index.html</a>). If the proposed reverse split at $2.50/sh occurs at the midpoint of 1-for-5000, his stake would increase to around 35% ownership of the company (34.94%, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005690/0001171843-24-005690-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005690/0001171843-24-005690-index.html</a>). I think it&#8217;s fair to assume that Kamin expects to be able to get north of $7.00 in a sale of the company based on his past purchase prices.</p><p>(<em>More of his Form 4 and 13D filings can be found here: <a href="https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/?r=el#/q=kamin&amp;category=form-cat2&amp;ciks=0000806517&amp;entityName=PSYCHEMEDICS%2520CORP%2520(PMD)%2520(CIK%25200000806517)">https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/?r=el#/q=kamin&amp;category=form-cat2&amp;ciks=0000806517&amp;entityName=PSYCHEMEDICS%2520CORP%2520(PMD)%2520(CIK%25200000806517)</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/?r=el#/q=kamin&amp;category=form-cat3&amp;ciks=0000806517&amp;entityName=PSYCHEMEDICS%2520CORP%2520(PMD)%2520(CIK%25200000806517)">https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/?r=el#/q=kamin&amp;category=form-cat3&amp;ciks=0000806517&amp;entityName=PSYCHEMEDICS%2520CORP%2520(PMD)%2520(CIK%25200000806517)</a></em>)</p><h1>Valuation</h1><p>We can glean some idea of what the company might be worth by looking at the buying history of the person who is now planning to take the company private. Kamin&#8217;s main bulk of share purchases occurred at around $4.50, $7.00, and $6.50, so we can assume he thinks it&#8217;s worth at least $7.00. (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/?r=el#/q=pmd&amp;ciks=0000937541&amp;entityName=Kamin%2520Peter%2520(CIK%25200000937541)">https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/?r=el#/q=pmd&amp;ciks=0000937541&amp;entityName=Kamin%2520Peter%2520(CIK%25200000937541)</a>). $7.00/sh was also the price of the 2022 verbal offer and well below the 2021 $12.00 non-binding offer that was abruptly dropped.</p><p>As part of PMD&#8217;s &#8220;going dark&#8221; discussions, the company commissioned Mirus Securities Inc. as an independent advisor to evaluate the company and provide a fairness opinion on Kamin&#8217;s take-private offer, which was apparently internally code-named &#8220;Project Northern Lights&#8221;. As part of their fairness analysis, in addition to comparable going-dark reverse stock split pricing precedents, Mirus conducted valuation analysis of PMD based on comps analysis, comparable/precedent transaction analysis, DCF analysis, and estimates for how the company would sell in an LBO scenario (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005038/exh_cii.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005038/exh_cii.htm</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005522/0001171843-24-005522-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005522/0001171843-24-005522-index.html</a>, see Exhibit (c)(ii)). (<em>The Mirus presentation slides below are from the August 2024 valuation section</em>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fUJ4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea221646-0d25-4d72-a52f-910a2279936d_437x133.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fUJ4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea221646-0d25-4d72-a52f-910a2279936d_437x133.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fUJ4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea221646-0d25-4d72-a52f-910a2279936d_437x133.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rVEt!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eb48abd-cc1e-4836-aaed-583eb974b607_407x120.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rVEt!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eb48abd-cc1e-4836-aaed-583eb974b607_407x120.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rVEt!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eb48abd-cc1e-4836-aaed-583eb974b607_407x120.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uyTC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f5fd7c-f13b-474e-af5c-3a4dac3a24df_382x120.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uyTC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f5fd7c-f13b-474e-af5c-3a4dac3a24df_382x120.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uyTC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f5fd7c-f13b-474e-af5c-3a4dac3a24df_382x120.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uyTC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f5fd7c-f13b-474e-af5c-3a4dac3a24df_382x120.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uyTC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f5fd7c-f13b-474e-af5c-3a4dac3a24df_382x120.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uyTC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f5fd7c-f13b-474e-af5c-3a4dac3a24df_382x120.png" width="382" height="120" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/71f5fd7c-f13b-474e-af5c-3a4dac3a24df_382x120.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:120,&quot;width&quot;:382,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:35402,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uyTC!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f5fd7c-f13b-474e-af5c-3a4dac3a24df_382x120.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uyTC!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f5fd7c-f13b-474e-af5c-3a4dac3a24df_382x120.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uyTC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f5fd7c-f13b-474e-af5c-3a4dac3a24df_382x120.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uyTC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f5fd7c-f13b-474e-af5c-3a4dac3a24df_382x120.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>Something to keep in mind is that the DCF and LBO valuations by Mirus were informed by management&#8217;s given forecasts for the business &#8212;which were likely not accounting for any planned cost-cutting or other changes that Kamin may be planning for the company once he takes it private</em>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6aLo!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36d288d9-ddba-438a-be93-05c9f3e345aa_869x215.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6aLo!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36d288d9-ddba-438a-be93-05c9f3e345aa_869x215.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6aLo!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36d288d9-ddba-438a-be93-05c9f3e345aa_869x215.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6aLo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36d288d9-ddba-438a-be93-05c9f3e345aa_869x215.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6aLo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36d288d9-ddba-438a-be93-05c9f3e345aa_869x215.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6aLo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36d288d9-ddba-438a-be93-05c9f3e345aa_869x215.png" width="869" height="215" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/36d288d9-ddba-438a-be93-05c9f3e345aa_869x215.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:215,&quot;width&quot;:869,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:46257,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6aLo!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36d288d9-ddba-438a-be93-05c9f3e345aa_869x215.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6aLo!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36d288d9-ddba-438a-be93-05c9f3e345aa_869x215.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6aLo!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36d288d9-ddba-438a-be93-05c9f3e345aa_869x215.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6aLo!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F36d288d9-ddba-438a-be93-05c9f3e345aa_869x215.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>In this last table, I remove the extreme high and low outlier values included in the Mirus precedent transaction valuation analysis</em>)</p><p>Note that even on the low end, you wouldn&#8217;t lose too much money buying in at the $2.35 reverse split price and in most cases you are at least doubling your money.</p><p>My downside estimate of $1.60 is purely based on taking the minimum between the Mirus valuations (in this case, the DCF valuation low) and the 52-week lows that the stock traded at (which was actually a 20yr low for the stock) in the time prior to the disclosure of the Kamin take-private deal.</p><h1>Catalysts</h1><p>Kamin take-private, turn-around / cost-cutting, and subsequent sale of the company.</p><h1>Risks</h1><p>Perhaps this doesn&#8217;t need mentioning, but I will mention it anyway: there is no guarantee that Kamin will ever be able to successfully sell the company, what that timeline might be, or if that is even his actual intention. ********** <em>UPDATE 20241203: For an example, see the comment thread <a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/lemoncakesinvesting/p/pmd-psychemedics-corp-hair-today?r=ywarc&amp;utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;comments=true&amp;commentId=79982731">here</a>.</em> ********** Based on the past events and what I&#8217;ve written in this post, I think that is exactly what is planned and think he will be successful, but others may disagree (if you have a good reason to doubt, do let me know before the transaction actually happens!). </p><p>Note that in the intervening time between the going-dark event and the &#8212;expected&#8212; sale of the company, the deal proxy does not <em>guarantee</em> that shares will even trade on the OTC Pink or Expert market. That is, you should assume you will be locked in for the foreseeable future.</p><blockquote><p><em>Any trading in our common stock after the Stock Split and deregistration under the Exchange Act will only occur in privately negotiated sales and potentially on the OTC Pink Market, if one or more brokers chooses to make a market for our common stock there, subject to applicable regulatory requirements; however, there can be no assurances regarding any such trading. ~~~ </em><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005690/0001171843-24-005690-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005690/0001171843-24-005690-index.html</a></p></blockquote><p>Furthermore, some of those precedent comparable transactions documented by Mirus occurred at times where interest rates differed from where they are at today and likely make a difference in how much a strategic buyer is going to be willing to pay (both from a DCF equation POV and a debt burden / financing POV).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UIqv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5a1dcc58-73e7-4bb2-9c39-871ddafccb88_1351x482.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UIqv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5a1dcc58-73e7-4bb2-9c39-871ddafccb88_1351x482.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UIqv!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5a1dcc58-73e7-4bb2-9c39-871ddafccb88_1351x482.png 848w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1BRzG">https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1BRzG</a></em>) </p><h1>Some odds and ends</h1><p>An interesting twitter thread on potential regulator tailwinds lining up for PMD&#8217;s business: <a href="https://twitter.com/ragnarisapirate/status/1672244729394917376?s=51&amp;t=oE6GN6vLZWb087-UBs2QXA">https://twitter.com/ragnarisapirate/status/1672244729394917376?s=51&amp;t=oE6GN6vLZWb087-UBs2QXA</a></p><p>Note that the reverse/forward split is currently planned to be within a range from between 1-for-4000 to 1-for-6000, so, to be conservative, one would need to purchase a block of 6000 shares if they wanted to ride along into the take-private.</p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20241211: This is a bit late at this point, but just wanted to clear something up. The way the reverse forward split worked was like this: Market closes, shares are set to reverse split at ratio of 1-for-5000, anyone who would end up owning less than 1 share as a consequence the reverse split instead gets all of their shares bought out at $2.35/sh right before the split, the reverse split then happens, then the forward split was done in order not to cause an artificial spike in stock price nor affect liquidity for remaining shareholders. So if you had 5001 shares going into the split, you did not lose that 1 share nor and up with 5001 shares after the forward split, you ended with that same amount you went in with because you owned at least 5000. Why not directly buy shares at that $2.35 price (up to the total amount specified in the going-dark proxy filing) via a rights offering? It&#8217;s because the goal was not to reduce float or simply obtain more stock, but to reduce the total number of stockholders of record (which the proxy filing estimated would be reduced from 201 to 39). Doing the reverse/forward split provided an indirect way to forcibly buy out smaller shareholders (those with less than 5000 shares).</em> **********</p><p>If you do buy a sufficient block of shares and intend to allow them to go dark along with Kamin, you should also be sure to contact your broker in cases where your shares are held in &#8220;street name&#8221; by you broker, rather than yourself, to ensure that they will not unintentionally cash you out in the reverse split. (The company intends to treat &#8220;street name&#8221; shares no different than any others, but you may want to double check ( <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005690/def14a_101824.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184324005690/def14a_101824.htm</a>, see &#8220;<em>Treatment of Beneficial Holders (Stockholders Holding Shares in &#8220;Street Name&#8221;)</em>&#8221;)).</p><p>One should also take care that they own their blocks of shares in a single account, rather than only in aggregate across multiple accounts that would result in them being cashed out on an individual basis.</p><p>.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! Leave a like and subscribe for free to receive new posts in the future.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[($GEO) Geo Group: Trump admin thriver, durable under Democrats]]></title><description><![CDATA[Quick idea commentary on an obvious Trump admin beneficiary that might not do too badly under a Democrat admin either]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/geo-geo-group-trump-admin-thriver</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/geo-geo-group-trump-admin-thriver</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2024 21:59:59 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf86b78b-45da-4cd6-bf97-bc5603cdd899_494x365.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<ul><li><p>Ticker: GEO</p></li><li><p>Marketcap: $2060.70MM</p></li><li><p>Price: $15.30</p></li><li><p>PT: $26</p></li><li><p>Payback period: 1 - 4yrs</p></li><li><p>Upside CAGR: 70 - 14%</p></li><li><p>Downside PT: $14.40</p></li><li><p>Downside CAGR: -5.37 - -1.5%</p></li></ul><p>.</p><div class="comment" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.substack.com/home&quot;,&quot;commentId&quot;:149132169,&quot;comment&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:149132169,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-08-26T00:42:25.256Z&quot;,&quot;edited_at&quot;:null,&quot;body&quot;:&quot;$GEO, GEO Group\n\nExcuse me Mr.Chairman, is this what one does in the face of \&quot;unprecedented business opportunities\&quot;? Are said opportunities at different company?\n\nhttps://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000095017025111289/xslF345X05/ownership.xml\n\nhttps://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000095017025110520/xslF345X05/ownership.xml\n\n(Full disclosure: Sold out of my position in the $25-$22 range leading up to and after the post-earnings drop, but, as always, may buy again at any time).&quot;,&quot;body_json&quot;:{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;doc&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;schemaVersion&quot;:&quot;v1&quot;},&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;$GEO, GEO Group&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Excuse me Mr.Chairman, is this what one does in the face of \&quot;unprecedented business opportunities\&quot;? Are said opportunities at different company?&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000095017025111289/xslF345X05/ownership.xml&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000095017025111289/xslF345X05/ownership.xml&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000095017025110520/xslF345X05/ownership.xml&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000095017025110520/xslF345X05/ownership.xml&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;(Full disclosure: Sold out of my position in the $25-$22 range leading up to and after the post-earnings drop, but, as always, may buy again at any time).&quot;}]}]},&quot;restacks&quot;:0,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:0,&quot;attachments&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:&quot;242524dd-ddca-4af8-a2f3-ba37edf276c9&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image&quot;,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5a3ba080-7a14-489b-a999-c608d6c7b5c8_837x161.png&quot;,&quot;imageWidth&quot;:837,&quot;imageHeight&quot;:161,&quot;explicit&quot;:false}],&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;user_id&quot;:58613880,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;user_bestseller_tier&quot;:null,&quot;userStatus&quot;:{&quot;bestsellerTier&quot;:null,&quot;subscriberTier&quot;:null,&quot;leaderboard&quot;:null,&quot;vip&quot;:false,&quot;badge&quot;:null,&quot;paidPublicationIds&quot;:[],&quot;subscriber&quot;:null}}}" data-component-name="CommentPlaceholder"></div><h1>Intro</h1><p>These <s>walls</s> private prisons are funny. First you hate them, then you get used to them. Enough time passes, you get so you depend on them.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZQcu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff9b95c6-6322-4e4c-8f0f-a3eb48029a78_734x403.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZQcu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff9b95c6-6322-4e4c-8f0f-a3eb48029a78_734x403.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZQcu!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff9b95c6-6322-4e4c-8f0f-a3eb48029a78_734x403.png 848w, 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Private prison arrangements are <a href="https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;id=PYx-R6rDD6UC&amp;oi=fnd&amp;pg=PA51&amp;dq=dana+joel+The+Privatization+of+Secure+Adult+Prisons&amp;ots=JgoEcevc8P&amp;sig=SviXH6wrSokb7BQL8svk45oljHg#v=onepage&amp;q=dana%20joel%20The%20Privatization%20of%20Secure%20Adult%20Prisons&amp;f=false">attractive</a> to state officials in part because the companies are able to build prisons quickly and without the need for voter approval.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <em><a href="https://www.hamiltonproject.org/publication/paper/the-economics-of-private-prisons/">https://www.hamiltonproject.org/publication/paper/the-economics-of-private-prisons/</a></em></p></blockquote><p>(<em><a href="https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/unchecked-growth-private-prison-corporations-and-immigration-detention-three-years-into-the-biden-administration">https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/unchecked-growth-private-prison-corporations-and-immigration-detention-three-years-into-the-biden-administration</a>; <a href="https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/more-of-the-same-private-prison-corporations-and-immigration-detention-under-the-biden-administration">https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/more-of-the-same-private-prison-corporations-and-immigration-detention-under-the-biden-administration</a></em>)</p><p>.</p><p>As the US Presidential election day nears, I thought I&#8217;d do a quick post for a related idea I&#8217;ve been playing with.</p><p>When thinking about companies that are hated, yet selling at a reasonable value or being sold for non-economic reasons, what&#8217;s happened with private prison operator GEO seems like a pretty good example of what one would be looking for.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O38f!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1002b503-b297-4d5a-8ea9-49ab5c14e7d6_1040x841.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O38f!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1002b503-b297-4d5a-8ea9-49ab5c14e7d6_1040x841.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!O38f!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1002b503-b297-4d5a-8ea9-49ab5c14e7d6_1040x841.png 848w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://investigate.afsc.org/company/geo-group">https://investigate.afsc.org/company/geo-group</a></em>)</p><p>I look at this long list of non-economic-based divestment of institutional money from GEO and am reminded of Nick Sleep&#8217;s Nomad partnership letters (<em><a href="https://igyfoundation.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Full_Collection_Nomad_Letters_.pdf">https://igyfoundation.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Full_Collection_Nomad_Letters_.pdf</a></em>):</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>We consider ourselves contrarian, value-based investors. Ordinarily what we are buying is hated and reasonable value. When investments go from hated and reasonable to despised and cheap something is normally up in the markets.</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></p></blockquote><p>Furthermore, I&#8217;d wager that this company, on even a quantitative level, screens rather poorly for non-fundamental reasons as well &#8212;adding to it&#8217;s mispricing. I subscribe to the stock data service TIKR (which supposedly uses S&amp;P Capital IQ, a major data source used by many institutional investment firms and hedge funds, to get their primary stock/financial data). The data that they have on the primary data feed is severely incomplete: income statement data that only starts at the EBT line (eg. no info on revenues, opex, interest payments, SG&amp;A, etc); balance sheet data missing many line items from 10K (even as simple as AR); cashflow statement that does not include capex, debt issuance or repayments, etc. That is, TIKR&#8217;s &#8212;and so I assume S&amp;P Capital IQ&#8217;s&#8212; B/S and CFS data cannot be used to accurately arithmetically derive their own stated net totals and rather just grab the right answer externally to plug into the aggregates without having any of the line item details that would actually add/subtract to those totals; a majority of I/S data is simply missing. (<em>I will note that their Secondary Data source option for the stock is much more complete, yet even then, the many numbers appear to be inaccurate (eg. missing capex figures or EBITDA numbers that do not match GEO&#8217;s own nominal or adjusted reporting of those same metrics)</em>).</p><p>As another bullish signal, GEO founder/Chairman George Zoley recently upped their holdings, by around 7%, at prices not too far from where we&#8217;re at right now (<em><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000095017024096460/xslF345X05/ownership.xml">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000095017024096460/xslF345X05/ownership.xml</a></em>). </p><p>.</p><p>Meanwhile, customer spending continues to grow at a CAGR of around 5.4%/yr:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Since the creation of DHS in 2003, ICE spending has nearly tripled from $3.3 billion to $9.6 billion in FY 2024 (Figure 2). <strong>Much of this funding has gone to increasing the agency&#8217;s ability to hold immigrants in detention around the country, to electronically monitor noncitizens on &#8220;alternatives to detention&#8221;, and to carry out deportations</strong>.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/the-cost-of-immigration-enforcement-and-border-security">https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/the-cost-of-immigration-enforcement-and-border-security</a></p></blockquote><p>Looking at the graphs below, we see that ICE budgets either increase or remain stable through both Democrat and Republican administrations.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0EHr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc1c51f0a-fdf9-43ab-b9c6-f6cf906dfc2d_1334x756.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>.</p><h1>Business</h1><p>GEO Group is a company that specializes in the ownership, leasing, and management of secure facilities, processing centers, and reentry facilities. They primarily operate in the US with additional operations in Australia, South Africa (via South African Custodial Management Pty. Ltd., SACM, and joint venture, SACS), and the UK through a joint venture, GEOAmey. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSam!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F386f5368-26a9-4e4a-a9c9-7e5b76e3faef_942x506.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSam!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F386f5368-26a9-4e4a-a9c9-7e5b76e3faef_942x506.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSam!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F386f5368-26a9-4e4a-a9c9-7e5b76e3faef_942x506.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSam!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F386f5368-26a9-4e4a-a9c9-7e5b76e3faef_942x506.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSam!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F386f5368-26a9-4e4a-a9c9-7e5b76e3faef_942x506.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSam!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F386f5368-26a9-4e4a-a9c9-7e5b76e3faef_942x506.png" width="942" height="506" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSam!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F386f5368-26a9-4e4a-a9c9-7e5b76e3faef_942x506.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSam!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F386f5368-26a9-4e4a-a9c9-7e5b76e3faef_942x506.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SSam!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F386f5368-26a9-4e4a-a9c9-7e5b76e3faef_942x506.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>GEO 2024Q2 earnings slides</em>)</p><p>The ways in which someone moving through the US justice system might interact with GEO&#8217;s contracted services looks something like this (GEO services in green)&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7q1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13eee552-410f-49c4-92c5-707744a0ec58_631x1179.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7q1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13eee552-410f-49c4-92c5-707744a0ec58_631x1179.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7q1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13eee552-410f-49c4-92c5-707744a0ec58_631x1179.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7q1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13eee552-410f-49c4-92c5-707744a0ec58_631x1179.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7q1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13eee552-410f-49c4-92c5-707744a0ec58_631x1179.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>My understanding is that the vast majority of GEO&#8217;s facilities, including those under BOP and USMS contracts, house illegal immigrants convicted of Federal crimes (<a href="https://wearegeo.com/dispelling-myths/transparency/">https://wearegeo.com/dispelling-myths/transparency/</a>; <a href="https://www.geogroup.com/GEO-statement-on-President-Biden-DOJ-EO">https://www.geogroup.com/GEO-statement-on-President-Biden-DOJ-EO</a></em>)).</p><p>Through their subsidiary BI Inc. (acquired by GEO in 2011), they are also the exclusive electronic monitoring provider for ICE&#8217;s Intensive Supervision Appearance Program (ISAP), the largest alternative to detention (ADT) program operated by ICE. BI Inc. has been the main (sole?) case management and monitoring services operator for the program since its inception in 2004 (<em><a href="https://investigate.afsc.org/company/geo-group">https://investigate.afsc.org/company/geo-group</a>; <a href="https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/alternatives-immigration-detention-overview">https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/alternatives-immigration-detention-overview</a></em>), so unless the US goes with an open-borders policy, there&#8217;s not a huge risk of product/service substitution for GEO as they manage the largest alternative to detention program. BI Inc, like the rest of GEO&#8217;s business segments, also has contracts with state and local community corrections agencies across the United States.</p><p>So far as I can tell, BI&#8217;s ISAP contract has never been subject to any competitive bidding process since the time they won it and the existing contract has simply renewed and expanded with BI remaining the exclusive manager of the program. Sticking with BI as the ISAP program evolves would make sense as their experience operating the program would naturally make them most qualified &#8212;an advantage that only compounds and entrenches them over time&#8212; and least disruptive-to-continuity choice for such a high-profile and operationally complex program. </p><p>While this segment makes up less than 20% of GEO&#8217;s revenues, the business is asset-light and the electronic monitoring segment has made up 40%-60% of their operating income since the segment has been dis-aggregated from the re-entry services segment. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!webB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F853bbb54-e622-4d5b-a603-1d0003b4cd2a_1814x742.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>How does someone crossing the US border come to into contact with GEO&#8217;s detention facilities, secure transportation, or electronic monitoring (EM) services? My understanding is that is goes something like this (where GEO services are again in green)&#8230; <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tIZY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34059a7e-918e-476c-9659-085975af6ad8_1904x2196.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tIZY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F34059a7e-918e-476c-9659-085975af6ad8_1904x2196.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>.</p><h1>Why it&#8217;s cheap</h1><p>My understanding of GEO&#8217;s stock price decline from 2017 to present day is that it was mainly driven by concern over the company&#8217;s growing debt burden and subsequent stalling of the dividend, which suffered several cuts before being completely discontinued by 2022.</p><p>Adding to GEO&#8217;s troubles, on January 26, 2021, President Biden signed Executive Order 14006 which banned the renewal the Department of Justice&#8217;s contracts with private prisons operators (<em><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/biden-s-order-terminates-federal-private-prison-contracts-here-s-n1255776">https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/biden-s-order-terminates-federal-private-prison-contracts-here-s-n1255776</a>; <a href="https://www.wakeforestlawreview.com/2023/01/president-bidens-executive-order-14006-a-positive-but-likely-fleeting-attempt-to-address-the-injustice-of-private-prisons/">https://www.wakeforestlawreview.com/2023/01/president-bidens-executive-order-14006-a-positive-but-likely-fleeting-attempt-to-address-the-injustice-of-private-prisons/</a>; <a href="https://www.geogroup.com/GEO-statement-on-President-Biden-DOJ-EO">https://www.geogroup.com/GEO-statement-on-President-Biden-DOJ-EO</a></em>). While this did not affect GEO&#8217;s ICE contracts, it has lead to the near-total loss of their contracts with the Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP). Meanwhile, it appears that the US Marshals Service (USMS) has been able to circumvent this EO by going indirect to continue contracting with GEO (<em><a href="https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/u-s-marshals-service-evades-biden-executive-order-to-end-contracts-with-private-prisons-aclu-obtained-records-indicate">https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/u-s-marshals-service-evades-biden-executive-order-to-end-contracts-with-private-prisons-aclu-obtained-records-indicate</a>; <a href="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/12/warren-private-prison-us-marshals/">https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/12/warren-private-prison-us-marshals/</a></em>).</p><p>Shorty thereafter, on April 7, 2021, the company announced it was suspending its quarterly dividend payments &#8220;<em>with the goal of maximizing the use of cash flows to repay debt, deleverage, and internally fund growth</em>&#8221; and that &#8220;<em>the Board of Directors has determined to undertake an evaluation of GEO&#8217;s structure as a REIT</em>&#8221; (<em><a href="https://investors.geogroup.com/node/9961/html#d166890dex991.htm">https://investors.geogroup.com/node/9961/html#d166890dex991.htm</a></em>). On December 2, 2021, the Board of Directors &#8220;<em>unanimously approved a plan to terminate GEO&#8217;s REIT election and become a taxable C Corporation, effective for the year ended December 31, 2021. As a result, we are no longer required to operate under REIT rules, including the requirement to distribute at least 90% of REIT taxable income to our stockholders, which provides us with greater flexibility to use our free cash flow.</em>&#8221; (<em><a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000095017024023181/geo-20231231.htm">https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000095017024023181/geo-20231231.htm</a></em>) </p><p>So we see changes in political climate and subsequent regulation leading to a material loss in business for the company, which led to a cutting of the dividend and reconsideration (and later termination) of GEO&#8217;s REIT status. Aside from the end of the dividend and REIT status likely causing a selloff by yield-focused investors, the situation probably also highlighted concerns about GEO&#8217;s growing debt burden and leverage ratios and contributed to further stock decline.      </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ApVx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59214bb1-ba1e-4c9c-94dc-d787990eda69_1000x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ApVx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59214bb1-ba1e-4c9c-94dc-d787990eda69_1000x600.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PvB!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F237b947c-9dc0-41e4-bffc-7c8d03bdbbe8_2048x1295.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PvB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F237b947c-9dc0-41e4-bffc-7c8d03bdbbe8_2048x1295.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6PvB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F237b947c-9dc0-41e4-bffc-7c8d03bdbbe8_2048x1295.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Since then, GEO&#8217;s deleveraging efforts appear to have paid off and the company&#8217;s debt ratios are near the lowest they&#8217;ve been in over 10 years. Furthermore, in 2024Q2, the company refinanced the majority of their existing debt with further-out maturities and a lower average interest rate. Here is a comparison of their new capital structure vs their pre-refi one&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Uni!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F329429d4-7da6-4caa-a649-895515b7abd4_1257x623.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Uni!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F329429d4-7da6-4caa-a649-895515b7abd4_1257x623.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Uni!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F329429d4-7da6-4caa-a649-895515b7abd4_1257x623.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Uni!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F329429d4-7da6-4caa-a649-895515b7abd4_1257x623.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Uni!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F329429d4-7da6-4caa-a649-895515b7abd4_1257x623.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Uni!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F329429d4-7da6-4caa-a649-895515b7abd4_1257x623.png" width="1200" height="594.7494033412888" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/329429d4-7da6-4caa-a649-895515b7abd4_1257x623.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:623,&quot;width&quot;:1257,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:101352,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Uni!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F329429d4-7da6-4caa-a649-895515b7abd4_1257x623.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Uni!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F329429d4-7da6-4caa-a649-895515b7abd4_1257x623.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Uni!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F329429d4-7da6-4caa-a649-895515b7abd4_1257x623.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Uni!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F329429d4-7da6-4caa-a649-895515b7abd4_1257x623.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>See sections &#8220;4. FAIR VALUE OF ASSETS AND LIABILITIES&#8221; and &#8220;Financial Condition&#8221;, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0000923796/000095017024093922/geo-20240630.htm">https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0000923796/000095017024093922/geo-20240630.htm</a></em>)</p><p>We see a slight decrease in total liabilities (by $36,511,000), simplification of debt structure, and extension of debt maturities. Also note that, while the value-weighted interest rate for the various liens and notes under the new structure is slightly higher then the old (now 9.42% vs previous 8.52%), the new credit facility agreement now makes up 77% of debt (vs previous 51%) and is based on a floating-rate SOFR+3%, so the company is benefiting from the recent Fed rate cuts more than they would have under the old capital structure and reduces their total interest expense.</p><p>&#8220;<em>The weighted average interest rate on outstanding borrowings under the Credit Agreement as of June 30, 2024 was 9.46%.</em>&#8221; vs &#8220;<em>As of December 31, 2023, we had no borrowings under our revolver, and approximately $75.8 million in letters of credit which left approximately $189.2 million in additional borrowing capacity under the revolver. The weighted average interest rate on outstanding borrowings under the Credit Agreement as of December 31, 2023 was 12.35%.</em>&#8221; (<em><a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0000923796/000095017024093922/geo-20240630.htm">https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0000923796/000095017024093922/geo-20240630.htm</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000095017024023181/geo-20231231.htm">https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000095017024023181/geo-20231231.htm</a></em>). Using these numbers for the credit facility, we get a new average weighted interest rate of 9.43% vs 10.30%.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNBf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26c7e82b-f672-499f-aac2-a1493e004c94_748x425.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNBf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26c7e82b-f672-499f-aac2-a1493e004c94_748x425.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNBf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26c7e82b-f672-499f-aac2-a1493e004c94_748x425.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNBf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26c7e82b-f672-499f-aac2-a1493e004c94_748x425.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNBf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26c7e82b-f672-499f-aac2-a1493e004c94_748x425.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNBf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26c7e82b-f672-499f-aac2-a1493e004c94_748x425.png" width="748" height="425" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/26c7e82b-f672-499f-aac2-a1493e004c94_748x425.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:425,&quot;width&quot;:748,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:90802,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNBf!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26c7e82b-f672-499f-aac2-a1493e004c94_748x425.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNBf!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26c7e82b-f672-499f-aac2-a1493e004c94_748x425.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNBf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26c7e82b-f672-499f-aac2-a1493e004c94_748x425.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YNBf!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26c7e82b-f672-499f-aac2-a1493e004c94_748x425.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Meanwhile, management has discussed the desire to return capital to shareholders again (per the 2024Q2 earnings call). The new refi gives management the ability to retain excess cash flow for &#8220;restricted payments&#8221;, eg. dividends or buyback (so long as debt/adjEBITDA remains under 3.5x), per 2024Q1 call &#8212;something they apparently could not do under the previous arrangement. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>In addition to pushing out our maturities and lowering our average cost of debt, <strong>the recent refinancing transactions have given us greater flexibility to explore options to return capital to shareholders</strong>. Under our new credit facility covenants, we will be able to retain 25% of excess cash flow until September 2025 and 50% of excess cash flow after that date as long as our leverage remains between 2.5 and less than 3.5x adjusted EBITDA. <strong>This would give us the ability to use our cumulative retained excess cash flow for restricted payments, such as dividends or share repurchases</strong> as long as our total leverage remained below 3.5x adjusted EBITDA. Under our new senior notes indenture, we will have an initial restricted payments basket of $125 million, which will increase over time by 50% of net income.</em>&#8221; ~~~ GEO CEO Brian Evans, 2024Q1 earning call</p></blockquote><p>If management actually believes their own $45/sh NAV valuation (I&#8217;ll get back to this later), then I&#8217;d expect them to go for buybacks over dividends at the stock&#8217;s current price.</p><p>Here we see that debt ratios have been falling to decade lows (dotted lines), while FCF margins and ROCE have remained positive and been steadily rising to decade highs. Meanwhile, the company is cheaper on an EV/EBITDA basis than it&#8217;s been in over 10 years. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cfL7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb835edcf-9f6f-4b7d-98c4-a72e50f8f272_2048x1295.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cfL7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb835edcf-9f6f-4b7d-98c4-a72e50f8f272_2048x1295.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cfL7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb835edcf-9f6f-4b7d-98c4-a72e50f8f272_2048x1295.png 848w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>At the same time, FCF conversion on net income has been improving due lower spending on growth-capex projects and the completion of expansion projects in Australia from 2017-2020 as well as asset dispositions from 2021-2023 of less productive assets that likely reduced total maintenance-capex needs (eg. the sale the company&#8217;s youth business, Abraxas, and certain real estate assets <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fKyn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4319773d-1182-4e65-89f2-e926d2d21757_2048x1266.png" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>.</p><p>Here&#8217;s some quarter-by-quarter stats on the business through some of the past periods of general market volatility. Notably the company remained CFFO positive through the 2008 financial crisis and CFFO and FCF positive through 2020, with ROCE remaining positive throughout both periods. (<em>I just thought it was interesting, but wouldn&#8217;t read too much into it</em>). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b1mh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04978d34-0f69-4914-8761-630b1a442dfc_1540x404.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b1mh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04978d34-0f69-4914-8761-630b1a442dfc_1540x404.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b1mh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F04978d34-0f69-4914-8761-630b1a442dfc_1540x404.png 848w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>.</p><p>Examining some other periods of stock price declines in the company&#8217;s history, my interpretation is this&#8230;</p><p>2010-2012: I&#8217;m not totally sure on this one; it could be due the near 2x increase to GEO&#8217;s debt ratios during this period &#8212;and the initiation of the dividend at that same time may have been been cause for worry among shareholders concerned with the company&#8217;s capital allocation policies. There were also several controversies involving the company that all happened within a short time of each other in that period that may have contributed to negative investor sentiment (see <em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEO_Group#2010s">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEO_Group#2010s</a></em>).</p><p>2015-2016: Under the Obama administration, the DOJ announced plans to phase out the use of private prisons for federal inmates, stating that it would not renew its contracts with private prison contractors and causing GEO&#8217;s stock price to fall by around 40% that same day. However, this announcement was later rescinded by the Trump administration in 2016 (<em><a href="https://digitalcommons.molloy.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1139&amp;context=etd">https://digitalcommons.molloy.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1139&amp;context=etd</a></em>; <em><a href="https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/profiting-enforcement-role-private-prisons-us-immigration-detention">https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/profiting-enforcement-role-private-prisons-us-immigration-detention</a>; <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/23/516916688/private-prisons-back-in-mix-for-federal-inmates-as-sessions-rescinds-order">https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/23/516916688/private-prisons-back-in-mix-for-federal-inmates-as-sessions-rescinds-order</a></em>).</p><p>.</p><h1>Valuation(s)</h1><p>Prediction markets have Trump at around a 50% chance to win the Presidency (GEO&#8217;s external tailwind bull case), so you can paste that into your Kelly ratios and size appropriately (<em><a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Prediction_markets_in_the_2024_presidential_election">https://ballotpedia.org/Prediction_markets_in_the_2024_presidential_election</a></em>; <em><a href="https://blogs.cfainstitute.org/investor/2018/06/14/the-kelly-criterion-you-dont-know-the-half-of-it/">https://blogs.cfainstitute.org/investor/2018/06/14/the-kelly-criterion-you-dont-know-the-half-of-it/</a></em>). Though, I recall that the prediction markets had Trump favored to win in 2020 and turned out to be wrong, I&#8217;d probably disregard anything that isn&#8217;t pretty close to 50/50 at the time of my writing this.</p><p>My simple PT is a 40% discount to management&#8217;s own estimated NAV of $45/sh. I use this discount to account for any actual liquidation of such niche assets, though I get that regulations and NIMBY-ism likewise make these same assets very hard to replicate. This gets us to around $27/sh and I use a default downside floor price of the BVPS, $9.43/sh (<a href="https://investors.geogroup.com/news-events-reports/presentations">https://investors.geogroup.com/news-events-reports/presentations</a>). My simple upside probability is 50% chance of a Trump 2024 win x 80% chance of company&#8217;s continued successful execution of deleveraging ==&gt; 40% bull case probability.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gthe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23d7953f-9c9d-4a3f-bba5-0c50904d952a_957x716.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Gthe!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23d7953f-9c9d-4a3f-bba5-0c50904d952a_957x716.png 424w, 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At 8x FCF (around the same multiple the stock traded at before the COVID global shutdown and pre-2021 Biden EO), we don&#8217;t need to project too much to get to $26/sh (or 14.30% CAGR).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lDPu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2d0448-0baa-4a97-a3aa-bb6d12984ee1_1864x742.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lDPu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1e2d0448-0baa-4a97-a3aa-bb6d12984ee1_1864x742.png 424w, 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class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> or USMS bed activation (+/- some arbitrary churn) as well as projecting declining unauthorized immigrant population. Rising ISAP enrollment is based on an expectation of stricter enforcement policies to result in higher conversion of the remaining unauthorized alien population into ISAP participants.</p><p>Keep in mind that there are lots of assumptions and simplifications here, so I just try to make them explicit and I&#8217;m mainly just using this sheet as a guide / tool to play around with numbers to see how the magnitude &amp; direction of outcomes are affected vs current price. Also wanted to keep things very simple so can easily plug in a minimum set of key actuals (or run-rates) as they come out going forward.</p><p>.</p><p>Even if Trump doesn&#8217;t win the White House in November, I think GEO&#8217;s future looks basically fine as the deleveraging strategy has been playing out well, with debt/EBITDA at it&#8217;s lowest in over 10 years, and management discussing return of capital options for 2025 that could re-rate the stock (though the B/S improvements are already a <em>kind</em> of return of capital <em>iff</em> it can translate into greater distributable FCF/sh).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!frGu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F28980f0c-fcb4-4ee1-bedf-bbe36ef87e35_2048x1295.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.progressivecaucuscenter.org/federal-spending-on-immigration-examining-key-programs-and-impacts">https://www.progressivecaucuscenter.org/federal-spending-on-immigration-examining-key-programs-and-impacts</a>; <a href="https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/the-cost-of-immigration-enforcement-and-border-security">https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/the-cost-of-immigration-enforcement-and-border-security</a></em>)</p><p>Given the stability of USMS detention populations (per GEO 2024Q2 presentation), a possible return of BOP contracts as well as trends in illegal immigration enforcement/budgets are the main inflection point / drivers for growth of GEO&#8217;s business.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N89V!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e839449-0f80-46a4-84e7-bc7fa072eb99_993x703.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N89V!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e839449-0f80-46a4-84e7-bc7fa072eb99_993x703.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N89V!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e839449-0f80-46a4-84e7-bc7fa072eb99_993x703.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N89V!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e839449-0f80-46a4-84e7-bc7fa072eb99_993x703.png 1272w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dkzr!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14a9a869-429c-4911-9751-32a96c148d69_1265x267.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dkzr!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14a9a869-429c-4911-9751-32a96c148d69_1265x267.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dkzr!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14a9a869-429c-4911-9751-32a96c148d69_1265x267.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>.</p><p>Democrat policies towards immigration <em>could</em> also end up being just as, if not more, accretive to GEO&#8217;s sustained FCF/sh than a Trump admin and the company could see a win-win situation no matter who&#8217;s President in 2025. A southern border continuing to lean more towards the &#8220;open&#8221; side of the spectrum would mean even greater immigration court backlogs and necessitate improvement &amp; expansion of ICE detention and ATD programs like ISAP which &#8220;<em>after years of expansion, decreased by 39 percent in FY 2023, due in part to court orders and a lack of resources.</em>&#8221; (<em><a href="https://www.fosterglobal.com/blog/justice-delayed-immigration-courts-drown-in-backlogged-cases/">https://www.fosterglobal.com/blog/justice-delayed-immigration-courts-drown-in-backlogged-cases/</a>; <a href="https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-three-immigration-record">https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-three-immigration-record</a></em>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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[&#8230;] Despite the demand, as of the first quarter of FY 2024, there were only 725 immigration judges across the entire country for an average of nearly 5,000 cases per judge. So long as <strong>Congress continues to supercharge enforcement at the expense of adjudication, these backlogs will likely persist</strong>, and the funding poured into enforcement will not produce the results intended.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <em><a href="https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/the-cost-of-immigration-enforcement-and-border-security">https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/the-cost-of-immigration-enforcement-and-border-security</a></em></p></blockquote><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>Democrats broadly favor policies that make it easier for immigrants to legally come to, and stay in, the United States</strong>. But moderates (55%) more than liberals (24%) see controlling and reducing immigration as a priority.</em>&#8220; ~~~ <em><a href="https://globalaffairs.org/research/public-opinion-survey/democrats-and-republicans-starkly-divided-immigration-policy">https://globalaffairs.org/research/public-opinion-survey/democrats-and-republicans-starkly-divided-immigration-policy</a></em></p></blockquote><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>To respond to the <strong>record migrant encounters in fiscal year (FY) 2022, which were topped the following year</strong>, the Biden administration fundamentally changed its policy on border enforcement. [&#8230;] One year on, the challenge has persisted.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <em><a href="https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-three-immigration-record">https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-three-immigration-record</a></em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S6aX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff323e3f7-3831-44ed-9605-f5473e2384b3_744x536.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!S6aX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff323e3f7-3831-44ed-9605-f5473e2384b3_744x536.png 424w, 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efficiency, rehabilitation, or recidivism reduction (which is rather irrelevant given that GEO&#8217;s facilities almost exclusively hold unauthorized aliens convicted of federal crimes), but in simply ensuring officer and inmate safety. </em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a><em> Meanwhile, the benefits of ATD seem a lot clearer in addition to being a higher-margin business for GEO.</em>)</p><p>It should be noted that &#8220;<em>an increase in enrollment in ATDs over the last decade has not corresponded with a significant decrease in detention numbers</em>&#8221; (<em><a href="https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/alternatives-immigration-detention-overview">https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/alternatives-immigration-detention-overview</a></em>), so monitoring services could go up with bed occupancy related to ICE contracts remaining stable rather than being substituted by the former. By segment, the 2023 EBIT margins for GEO were: secure services &amp; detention, 18%; electronic monitoring (EM) being the most profitable at 50%; re-entry services, 18%; international, 6%. GEO&#8217;s EM segment is both higher margin as well as less socially offensive, so growth of the EM business is a way to improve overall ROIC and reduce the company&#8217;s political risk at the same time &#8212;improving the overall attractiveness of the business.</p><p>Of course, if a more lenient WH admin allows unauthorized immigrants to simply cross into the US and join the already large ranks of non-detained, unsupervised, and gotaways rather then adding to ISAP participation, then obviously GEO&#8217;s EM segment is not going to benefit from their presence in the US. Similarly, high rates of absconding could call into question the utility of existing ATD programs (<em><a href="https://cis.org/Feere/Should-Congress-Continue-Funding-ICEs-Alternatives-Detention">https://cis.org/Feere/Should-Congress-Continue-Funding-ICEs-Alternatives-Detention</a></em>).</p><p>.</p><p>As shown my initial model, the benefit to GEO from a Trump admin would come if the &#8220;<em>concepts of a plan</em>&#8221; for his presidency ultimately expand the currently small fraction of the undocumented population that is detained or monitored in the US (less than 2%) to cover a larger portion of the country&#8217;s substantial population of unauthorized non-detained/unsupervised/gotaways (<em><a href="https://www.foxnews.com/politics/over-98-illegal-immigrants-not-under-federal-supervision-analysis">https://www.foxnews.com/politics/over-98-illegal-immigrants-not-under-federal-supervision-analysis</a></em> ; <em><a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/">https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/</a></em>). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CXJV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69d3a37b-52ca-43cc-9630-b2b64d2aa97f_996x731.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CXJV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69d3a37b-52ca-43cc-9630-b2b64d2aa97f_996x731.jpeg 424w, 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The desired scale of this expansion was revealed in a leaked White House memo calling for a doubling of people in immigration detention to 80,000 per day. Further, Executive Order 13768 <strong>reversed Obama-era policies by prioritizing all unauthorized immigrants for enforcement</strong>, in addition to reviving Secure Communities and pushing for new agreements allowing state and local law enforcement to enter into partnerships to assist ICE in immigration enforcement.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <em><a href="https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/profiting-enforcement-role-private-prisons-us-immigration-detention">https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/profiting-enforcement-role-private-prisons-us-immigration-detention</a></em></p></blockquote><p>A Trump admin would also likely mean a reversal of the Biden 2021 EO dictating that the US DOJ not renew contracts with privately operated detention facilities, which caused the drying up of GEO&#8217;s business with the US BOP. This EO appears to be responsible for the majority of GEO&#8217;s currently idle facilities (just based on inspecting the facility names in their 2023 10K &#8220;Asset Impairments&#8221; section). A resuming of operations at these facilities at average occupancy and per diem rates, management estimates, would have increased 2023 EPS by &#8220;<em>approximately $.28 to $.33 per share based on our average operating margin</em>&#8220; (or around a 40%-50% increase to 2023&#8217;s actual $0.72 diluted EPS) (<em><a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000095017024023181/geo-20231231.htm">https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000095017024023181/geo-20231231.htm</a></em>).</p><p>.</p><p>FYI: While not a very large holding for me in terms of current cost basis, I have call options around the $12-$15 breakeven range that, in terms of the underlying if exercised, would be a significant percentage of my portfolio. Given that we know the timing of a major inflection point for the business (here, the 2024 election outcome), I think options are a better way to play this. Though, again, despite any price volatility that may result from an presumably less favorable WH candidate winning the election, I think that GEO could still ultimately be a good buy in the long-run.</p><p>To paraphrase Presidential candidate Kamala Harris:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>We&#8217;re talking about the significance of the passage of time, right? The significance of the passage of time. So, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do to <s>lay these wires</s> compound capital. What we need to do to <s>create these jobs</s> confirm or falsify our value thesis playing out. And there is such great significance to the passage of time when we think about a day in the life of our <s>children</s> portfolios.</em>&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>.</p><h1>Catalysts</h1><ul><li><p>Trump election victory in November 2024</p></li><li><p>Reinstatement of the dividend</p></li><li><p>Continued deleveraging</p></li></ul><h1>Risks</h1><ul><li><p>Trump loses in November, Kamala and Democrat establishment wins and increases (rather than holds steady) political pressure on remaining private prison business with BOP</p></li><li><p>Kamala/Dems win and decrease ICE funding</p></li><li><p>Trump wins and either fails to follow through on hard-line immigration enforcement policy or attempts to follow through, but implementation becomes a quagmire</p></li><li><p>Basically, anything that ultimately results in anything that ends up greatly impeding GEO&#8217;s deleveraging or dividend plans.</p></li></ul><p>.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>&#8230; and he&#8217;s not even been sworn in yet.</p><p>The way I see it, the company&#8217;s capital structure is much improved, with leverage ratios lower than they&#8217;ve been in over 10 years, and is now in a better position than it&#8217;s ever been from a government environment standpoint. At the 2024Q3 earnings call, Chairman George Zoley thought that the incoming Trump admin&#8217;s more aggressive stance on immigration could mean the company is looking at &#8220;<strong>a potential doubling of all of our services</strong>, whether it&#8217;s in the detention segment, in the transportation segment, as well as the ISAP program [&#8230;] So we&#8217;re <strong>looking at maybe March as the additive funding for this fiscal year</strong>.&#8221; The stock&#8217;s previous all time high around $30 may just be a reasonable floor for 2025 if the Trump admin is actually able to get all the funding from Congress that they feel necessary for their immigration policy (though I&#8217;m not planning on adding to my position, FYI). </p><h1>20241216 Post update</h1><p>GEO looks to be exiting survival mode and gearing up for &#8220;potentially unprecedented future growth opportunities.&#8221; Brian Evans served as GEO&#8217;s CEO from Jan 1, 2025 and announced that he would be retiring at the very end of the year on Dec 31, 2024. He is being replaced by J. David Donahue on Jan 1, 2025  (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000119312524279667/0001193125-24-279667-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000119312524279667/0001193125-24-279667-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000119312524074555/d717730ddef14a.htm#toc717730_4">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000119312524074555/d717730ddef14a.htm#toc717730_4</a>). </p><p>Evans&#8217; experience was primarily in finance as he served as GEO&#8217;s CFO from 2009 to 2023 before his CEo appointment. Meanwhile, Donahue &#8212;who GEO is bringing out of his 2020 retirement in order to fill the CEO role&#8212; was more focused on operations and the company. To me it seems like GEO appointed Evans in 2024 for his financing experience as GEO faced an uncertain future and needed a fiance person to make sure they could keep the ship solvent and work on paying down debt; Evans was &#8220;instrumental in successfully executing the Company&#8217;s strategy for three secondary public offerings of equity; the execution of multiple financing transactions; and the successful completion of major business transactions&#8221;. </p><p>However, now that Trump has won the 2024 elections and will be the incoming President in 2025, it seems like GEO is swapping CEOs for someone with more operational experience as it looks like operations will be heating up bigly in 2025. Additionally, GEO promoted a former ICE COO Daniel Ragsdale as Senior Vice President, Contract Administration and Compliance, further hinting at heightened focus on ICE opportunities. Today, the company also announced a $70MM investment in expanding capacity for ICE-related services, while also exploring the sale of under-performing state-owned facilities; again, emphasizing the focus on ICE operations. </p><p>Stephen Miller, Trump&#8217;s deputy chief of staff is predicting that Republicans in Congress could get a budget reconciliation bill (which only requires a simple majority vote and Republicans now control all of Congress) to Trump&#8217;s desk by the end of January or early February. (<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5033341-trump-prioritizes-immigration-policy/">https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5033341-trump-prioritizes-immigration-policy/</a>; <a href="https://www.crfb.org/papers/reconciliation-101">https://www.crfb.org/papers/reconciliation-101</a>) </p><p>The way I see it, the loss of the BOP contracts from the Biden EO was already priced into the stock&#8217;s depressed price and the stock&#8217;s recent upswing seems based &#8212;for the most part&#8212; on an expectation of greatly enhanced ICE operations. I actually like GEO more as an ICE-focused contractor vs the more politically risky business of detaining US citizens (who, for example, tend to have more ties to people in the US that can actually vote and participate/dissent in government to a greater degree); I think government demand for enforcement of immigration laws and the country borders is generally going to be pretty consistently non-zero, thus so too demand for GEO&#8217;s ICE-based services without too much need to for diversification into domestic detention services. (Though I do still think that private contractors&#8217; profit-motive (and loss aversion) do have the ability to be better stewards of US prisoners iff incentives and enforcement mechanisms were better configured and managed than they appear to have been handled thus far; BTW, more onerous regulations help to entrench incumbents, so there&#8217;s a win-win element there as well). </p><h1>20250222 Post update</h1><p><a href="https://www.pogo.org/investigations/private-prison-giant-hired-ice-detention-chief">https://www.pogo.org/investigations/private-prison-giant-hired-ice-detention-chief</a></p><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/02/21/g-s1-50100/senate-budget-resolution">https://www.npr.org/2025/02/21/g-s1-50100/senate-budget-resolution</a></p><p><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/senate-republicans-budget-plan-vote-a-rama/">https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/senate-republicans-budget-plan-vote-a-rama/</a></p><p><a href="https://immigrationimpact.com/2025/02/21/gop-budget-reconciliation-plan/">https://immigrationimpact.com/2025/02/21/gop-budget-reconciliation-plan/</a>, &#8220;This expansion in capacity is exactly what Tom Homan, Trump&#8217;s &#8220;border czar,&#8221; has called for.&#8221;</p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;[T]he Senate is expected to begin the process for passing a budget reconciliation bill, a somewhat obscure Congressional procedure which allows a funding bill to pass both houses of Congress with only a simple majority threshold. [&#8230;] Senate deal will reportedly include at least an unprecedented $175 billion for immigration and border enforcement, nearly six times the latest annual budget of Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) combined. [&#8230;] This expansion in capacity is exactly what Tom Homan, Trump&#8217;s &#8220;border czar,&#8221; has called for. He is seeking at least enough funding to detain 100,000 people at any given time&#8221;.</em></p></blockquote><p>Playing with the model, I&#8217;d up my base case PT &#8212;if the reconciliation package is passed&#8212; to around $32. This assumes that GEO is contracted for a similar proportional share of Homan&#8217;s 100,000+ requested additional detention beds as their detention operations usually are of ICE&#8217;s custody operations budget line (consistently around 60% after the 2021 Biden EO that limited GEO detention operations to ICE). The real uptick would come from seeing how these funds may be allocated to ISAP ATD, which GEO is the exclusive manager of and has much higher margins for the company. This could put GEO in the $50-$60 range. If the percentage of the US illegal alien population simply went from the current 2% to 4.5% (which could be funded at a $6 per diem per person if just half of the similar proportion as with regular appropriations budget that flows to ICE ATD (3.9%) goes to ATD from the Senate reconciliation package as well), in addition to hosting the extra requested beds, I have GEO at around $43. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ny_Q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf3c97fa-aa67-4cbc-9d5a-c3557b621b11_1868x528.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Here I just set... </p><p>- The &#8220;change in active beds&#8221; to the amount implied by GEO's expected share (based on their implied 2024 share of ICE's ERO &gt; Custody Operations line item) of the 100K requested beds.</p><p>- The &#8220;ISAP count / total alien pop&#8221; percentage such that is approximates the implied annual participants at $6/day based on my estimated % of supplemental reconciliation funding to go to ICE's ATD.</p><p>From another POV, the supplemental funding is projected to add $0.450bn/yr-$1bn/yr to GEO&#8217;s usual revenues. At a historical mean EV/Sales multiple of 2x, that <strong>would put GEO&#8217;s EV at $43/sh-$51/sh or a mktcap of around $31/sh-$39/sh</strong> after subtracting debt and adding back cash &#8212;which coincidentally lands right in between the modeled PT&#8212; with that value climbing up as mgmt is able to pay down debt.</p><h1>20250703 Post update</h1><p>With the successful passage of Trump&#8217;s &#8220;One Big Beautiful Bill&#8221; (OBBB) through both chambers of Congress today, the government will be sending $150bn in supplemental ICE/CBP funding (spread over the next 4yrs); $45bn of that is for additional detention capacity, $30bn for additional transport and deportation operations, $6.2bn for border tech (maybe this includes money for ATD, but there is not explicit mention of ATD program funding in the OBBB that I can find anywhere online); see <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Big_Beautiful_Bill_Act">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Big_Beautiful_Bill_Act</a>.</p><p>One of the goals of the OBBB is to add an additional 100K+ beds for ICE detention purposes. Currently ICE is funded for up to 41,500 total active beds &#8212;they are currently operating above that official funded capacity with 59,000 beds as of June (<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/">https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-record-59000-immigrant-detainees-half-no-criminal-record/</a>). So ICE needs to fill a gap of, say, (116000&#8722;((41500+59000)/2)=) 65,750 additional detention beds.</p><p>This is from GEO&#8217;s 2025Q1 10Q&#8230;</p><blockquote><p><em><strong>We are currently marketing (or awaiting activation) 7,453 vacant beds</strong> at six U.S. Secure Services and at three of our Reentry Services idle facilities to potential customers. [&#8230;] However, if the remaining idle facilities were to be activated using our U.S. Secure Services and Reentry Services average per diem rates in 2025 (calculated as the U.S. Secure Services and Reentry Services revenue divided by the number of U.S. Secure Services and Reentry Services mandays) and based on the average occupancy rate in our facilities through March 31, 2025, <strong>we would expect to receive incremental annualized revenue of approximately $255 million and an annualized increase in earnings per share of approximately $0.20 to $0.25 per share based on our average operating margins</strong>.</em></p></blockquote><p>IMO, it&#8217;s quite reasonable to think that GEO can have this existing idle capacity filled as part of ICE&#8217;s new push for an additional 66K detention beds; GEO&#8217;s 7,453 beds would only meet 11% of ICE&#8217;s total goal (GEO also very recently bought a 770-bed San Diego detention facility, but that appears to be solely related to their USMS customers (<a href="https://investors.geogroup.com/news-releases/news-release-details/geo-group-announces-it-has-entered-purchase-agreement-acquire">https://investors.geogroup.com/news-releases/news-release-details/geo-group-announces-it-has-entered-purchase-agreement-acquire</a>)). Per the Q1 2025 earnings call, for 6,500 of these idle beds, GEO was already &#8220;<em>currently in active discussions with both ICE and the Marshals Service regarding their interest in these facilities</em>&#8221; with a 60- to 90-day activation period.</p><p>Just on this additional idle reactivation alone, at current EV/Sales multiple of 2.15x and using TTM revenues and MRQ balance sheet numbers, we would end up with a mktcap/sh of&#8230;</p><p>((TTM revenue + incremental est.)*(EV/Sales mult.) - Debt + Cash) / Shares = </p><p>(((2422.68+255)*2.15)&#8722;(1658.09+25.24)+64) / 138.57 = <strong>$29.86</strong></p><p>However, this is likely just the floor price, as GEO has additional beds beyond this that can &#8212;and likely are being&#8212; prepped for ICE use. Per the Q1 2025 earnings call, GEO also has <strong>7000 beds</strong> that were currently unutilized by ICE at their Delaney Hall and Northlake facilities; they &#8220;<em>working with the New Mexico Corrections Department to depopulate our company-owned <strong>1,200-bed</strong> Lea County facility by the end of the year</em>&#8221; for which they are currently marketing for Federal re-purposing in 2H2025; GEO also has/had &#8220;2 state correctional facilities totaling approximately 3,600 combined beds&#8221; which they were initially going to sell, but now appears they are only going to sell the 2,400-bed Lawton Correctional, so (3600-2400=) <strong>1,200 additional convertible beds</strong>; (there was also discussion of 3,000 beds at a facility contracted to the USMS, but it was in context of beds that ICE could possibly use, so not sure if this was supposed to be considered part of that so I disregard it). This totals to 9,400 beds that GEO can make available fill ICE&#8217;s 65,750-bed gap.</p><p>One odd comment from the earnings call was that CEO Donahue saying &#8220;<em>As we have previously articulated, we estimate that the utilization of our available idle and underutilized beds could generate between $500 million and $600 million in annualized revenues with margins consistent with our Secure Services owned facilities, which average 25% to 30%.</em>&#8221; Yet, the 10Q only mentions $255MM. I assume that this additional revenue is when accounting for use of &#8220;<em>underutilized</em>&#8221; beds we just inventoried? Then, activating those idle plus underutilized beds would put GEO&#8217;s <strong>mktcap/sh at $33-35</strong> and ICE will still need 48,897 more beds to meet their OBBB goal that I&#8217;m sure GEO would love to find ways to contract.</p><p>Risks: The total supplemental ICE funds are planned to be doled out over the course of the next four years and a lot can change in that time, primarily the political composition of Congress. Future Congresses have the authority to amend, rescind, or reallocate unspent funds otherwise apportioned to ICE via the OBBB as these funds are not explicitly protected by any language in the bill that would prohibit rescission of these funds so far as I could find when processing the bill through an LLM; the OBBB itself is full of rescissions as a word search of the full text can show (see <a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text">https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text</a>). </p><p>I look at owning GEO as significantly de-risking from the normal business cycle (which saw significant uncertainty during Trump&#8217;s first term (eg. China trade war) and looks set to do so as well during his second), but what you get instead is direct exposure to rather contentious political risk. I think it&#8217;s an interesting form of diversification, but I&#8217;d also like management to really make hay while the sun is shining here.</p><p>The next earnings call in August will be interesting.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I had also previously assumed that the company also benefited from its business drivers being rather un-correlated (or anti-correlated) to the rest of the general economy and business cycle, but a basic analysis of their revenues and cashflows from operations (vs my general market proxies: BRK, JNJ, and PG) had mixed results. Based on this, the most I&#8217;d say is that GEO&#8217;s correlation to the general economy is just &#8220;pretty low.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ace7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa741370b-9594-430c-a9ec-521188f0bf39_598x111.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ace7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa741370b-9594-430c-a9ec-521188f0bf39_598x111.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ace7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa741370b-9594-430c-a9ec-521188f0bf39_598x111.png 848w, 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class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>For more info, see &#8220;Section 6.05 Restricted Payments&#8221; here (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000119312524110253/d764760dex103.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000119312524110253/d764760dex103.htm</a>, GEO&#8217;s revolver credit facility agreement), sections 4.7 and 4.8 here (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000119312524110253/d764760dex43.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000119312524110253/d764760dex43.htm</a>, the 10.25% notes) and here (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000119312524110253/d764760dex41.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/923796/000119312524110253/d764760dex41.htm</a>, the 8.625% notes). The new revolver agreement can be compared to the older one here (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0000923796/000095017023004713/geo-20221231.htm">https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0000923796/000095017023004713/geo-20221231.htm</a>).</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Ravenhall Correctional Centre Project in Australia and Perry County Correctional Facility in Alabama in 2022 (per 2022 10K).</p><p>Vacant Land in South Dallas County, Texas, and Colorado + Albert B. Robinson Assessment (per 2023 10K).</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Despite GEO making up 42% of the total 90% of ICE processing/detention bed capacity that is contracted to private sector operators (as of the 2024Q2 earnings call).</p><p> </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0047235223001058">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0047235223001058</a></p><p><a href="https://ippsr.msu.edu/public-policy/michigan-wonk-blog/reality-private-prisons-discipline-safety-and-misconduct">https://ippsr.msu.edu/public-policy/michigan-wonk-blog/reality-private-prisons-discipline-safety-and-misconduct</a></p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Portfolio review 20240704, semi-annual]]></title><description><![CDATA[&#8230; The S&P Global index construction methodology buckets $1bn-$6.7bn as &#8220;smallcap&#8221; and $6.7bn-$18bn as &#8220;midcap&#8221; (see https://www.spglobal.com/spdji/en/documents/methodologies/methodology-sp-us-indices.pdf). With the recent small additions of newer positions, in addition to my medium-sized positions in FNV and MKTX, my portfolio holdings&#8217; weighted average marketcap just crosses the smallcap threshold to a $6.9bn weighted average. Thus, I will compare my performance vs the smallcap indexes as well as against the S&P 400 midcap index (and, of course, vs the broad market index):]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/portfolio-review-20240704-semi-annual</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/portfolio-review-20240704-semi-annual</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2024 21:11:11 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F81529945-444c-4f31-9bb2-cc195fce1d4e_1200x742.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<h1>Returns</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bBST!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5bfba78-5de6-4850-b099-c50e04e5f4b1_901x906.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bBST!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5bfba78-5de6-4850-b099-c50e04e5f4b1_901x906.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bBST!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5bfba78-5de6-4850-b099-c50e04e5f4b1_901x906.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bBST!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5bfba78-5de6-4850-b099-c50e04e5f4b1_901x906.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bBST!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5bfba78-5de6-4850-b099-c50e04e5f4b1_901x906.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bBST!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5bfba78-5de6-4850-b099-c50e04e5f4b1_901x906.png" width="901" height="906" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bBST!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5bfba78-5de6-4850-b099-c50e04e5f4b1_901x906.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bBST!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5bfba78-5de6-4850-b099-c50e04e5f4b1_901x906.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bBST!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5bfba78-5de6-4850-b099-c50e04e5f4b1_901x906.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The S&amp;P Global index construction methodology buckets $1bn-$6.7bn as &#8220;smallcap&#8221; and $6.7bn-$18bn as &#8220;midcap&#8221; (see<em> <a href="https://www.spglobal.com/spdji/en/documents/methodologies/methodology-sp-us-indices.pdf">https://www.spglobal.com/spdji/en/documents/methodologies/methodology-sp-us-indices.pdf</a></em>). With the recent small additions of some newer positions, along with my medium-sized positions in FNV and MKTX, my portfolio holdings&#8217; weighted average marketcap just crosses the smallcap threshold to a $6.9bn weighted average. Thus, I will compare my performance vs the smallcap indexes as well as against the S&amp;P 400 midcap index (and, of course, vs the broad market index): </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHOL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb4bdd4cb-08d9-44a9-b10c-10a4a33a41ec_687x258.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHOL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb4bdd4cb-08d9-44a9-b10c-10a4a33a41ec_687x258.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHOL!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb4bdd4cb-08d9-44a9-b10c-10a4a33a41ec_687x258.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHOL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb4bdd4cb-08d9-44a9-b10c-10a4a33a41ec_687x258.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHOL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb4bdd4cb-08d9-44a9-b10c-10a4a33a41ec_687x258.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHOL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb4bdd4cb-08d9-44a9-b10c-10a4a33a41ec_687x258.png" width="687" height="258" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.google.com/finance/quote/SP600:INDEXSP?hl=en&amp;window=YTD&amp;comparison=INDEXRUSSELL%3ARUT%2CNYSEARCA%3AVB%2CINDEXSP%3ASP400TR%2CINDEXNYSEGIS%3AFTW5000">https://www.google.com/finance/quote/SP600:INDEXSP?hl=en&amp;window=YTD&amp;comparison=INDEXRUSSELL%3ARUT%2CNYSEARCA%3AVB%2CINDEXSP%3ASP400TR%2CINDEXNYSEGIS%3AFTW5000</a></em>)</p><p>So far we look to be doing well vs the similarly-marketcap&#8217;ed indexes, while behind the broad market by 5pps. (<em>Note that my portfolio is currently 17% cash and money market funds, so the performance would have been slightly higher at around 11.75% YTD if that money was invested evenly over the existing equity investments for the period. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> Regardless, the actual outcome here is still fine to me.</em>)</p><h1>Commentary</h1><p>So far for this year, weak price action breadth across the market and a lack of volatility (which has also led to cheap options contracts) has led me to tentatively start cutting small loser positions (such as in-the-red, goldilocks-macro-aligned positions that have not been successfully executing on their business or the thesis that I originally bought them for), while also adding to certain event-based investments via call options. </p><p>That is, the floorboards of the current market levels are looking just a bit creaky, so I figure now is a good time to cut some dead weight, while also adding cheap (and low overall cost-basis) exposure to investments whose underlying theses are less likely to loose steam in the event of a <em>slight</em> market correction. In a way, trying to shift more from market/systemic risk exposure, not to cash or other forms of &#8216;safety&#8217;, but more towards specific/idiosyncratic risk. I think the article here describes this POV pretty well: <a href="https://realinvestmentadvice.com/bad-breadth-keeps-getting-worse/">https://realinvestmentadvice.com/bad-breadth-keeps-getting-worse/</a>. (<em>I wonder how the earnings &#8216;breadth&#8217; looks (eg. what percent of S&amp;P 500 constituents have had positive EPS growth in their most recent quarter compared to the same time last year)</em>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NV0j!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16e7b378-2733-4d08-9fa7-84a885caf921_1524x976.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NV0j!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16e7b378-2733-4d08-9fa7-84a885caf921_1524x976.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/723f0cb6-3a0b-42e0-b565-448526ef3f53_1259x534.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:534,&quot;width&quot;:1259,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:71253,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Mfk!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F723f0cb6-3a0b-42e0-b565-448526ef3f53_1259x534.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Mfk!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F723f0cb6-3a0b-42e0-b565-448526ef3f53_1259x534.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Mfk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F723f0cb6-3a0b-42e0-b565-448526ef3f53_1259x534.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-Mfk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F723f0cb6-3a0b-42e0-b565-448526ef3f53_1259x534.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/$MMFI/technical-chart?plot=BAR&amp;volume=0&amp;data=DO&amp;density=YTD&amp;pricesOn=1&amp;asPctChange=0&amp;logscale=0&amp;startDate=2024-01-01&amp;indicators=MACD(12,26,9)&amp;sym=$MMFI&amp;grid=1&amp;height=500&amp;studyheight=100">https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/$MMFI/technical-chart?plot=BAR&amp;volume=0&amp;data=DO&amp;density=YTD&amp;pricesOn=1&amp;asPctChange=0&amp;logscale=0&amp;startDate=2024-01-01&amp;indicators=MACD(12,26,9)&amp;sym=$MMFI&amp;grid=1&amp;height=500&amp;studyheight=100</a>; <a href="https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/$MMTH/technical-chart?plot=BAR&amp;volume=0&amp;data=DO&amp;density=M&amp;pricesOn=1&amp;asPctChange=0&amp;logscale=0&amp;sym=$MMTH&amp;grid=1&amp;height=500&amp;studyheight=100">https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/$MMTH/technical-chart?plot=BAR&amp;volume=0&amp;data=DO&amp;density=M&amp;pricesOn=1&amp;asPctChange=0&amp;logscale=0&amp;sym=$MMTH&amp;grid=1&amp;height=500&amp;studyheight=100</a></em>)</p><p>.</p><p>Much has been said about the Mag7&#8217;s outsized effect on overall stock market returns as of late. I&#8217;ve written about it myself in the past <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/123907428/ytd-returns">here</a> and <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139945007/commentary">here</a>. It continues to be written about elsewhere, though I&#8217;ve not much more to add at this point as not much has changed with this trend so far as I can tell. I will simply add some more recent writings that touch on the topic here for any interested readers: <a href="https://capitalistexploits.at/a-giant-sucking-sound/">https://capitalistexploits.at/a-giant-sucking-sound/</a>;  <a href="https://columnalerts.cmail19.com/t/d-e-eiuulx-jutdtltktj-r/">https://columnalerts.cmail19.com/t/d-e-eiuulx-jutdtltktj-r/</a>; <a href="https://archive.ph/ff87V">https://archive.ph/ff87V</a>; <a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Horizon-Kinetics-Q1-2024-Commentary.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Horizon-Kinetics-Q1-2024-Commentary.pdf</a> (see &#8220;Today&#8217;s Technology Sector Risk&#8221;).</p><p>.</p><p>Despite the out-performance of the SPX and Mag7 vs my more modest basket of holdings, I can&#8217;t convince myself to start accumulating a position in these more popular stocks (especially at their present valuations). One of the main reasons I&#8217;m still quite comfortable with the portfolio despite the current under-performance vs the broad market index is that it aligns much better with the way I think about diversification, while still allowing for growth in the long-run to come from ideas that I think are a bit more under-followed by the market; I am reminded of the line from <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAsHVwl-MU4">Kanye West&#8217;s &#8220;Ghost Town&#8221;</a>: &#8220;<em>Years ahead, but way behind</em>&#8221;; I like to think my portfolio is &#8216;years ahead, but way behind (for now).&#8217; (Don&#8217;t look up the line that directly precedes that one).</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;7ffe659b-4c0f-45e3-90fd-f0f6ce021339&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Here is how it works. When $1 is invested in the S&amp;P 500 index, $0.35 flows directly into the top 10 stocks. The remaining $0.65 is divided between the remaining 490 stocks. Investors who benchmark [to] their index risk failing unless 35% of the portfolio is invested in those 10 stocks. <strong>With the market capitalization weighting of the largest companies nearing a record, taking on a 35% stake in those companies increases the portfolio&#8217;s risk profile significantly more than many investors think</strong>. [&#8230;] The reality is that even if you buy an index, you will still underperform it over time. Over the last 30 years, the S&amp;P 500 Index has risen by 1987% versus the ETF&#8217;s gain of 1916%. The difference is due to the ETF&#8217;s operating fees, which the index does not have.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://realinvestmentadvice.com/benchmarking-your-portfolio-may-have-more-risk-than-you-think/">https://realinvestmentadvice.com/benchmarking-your-portfolio-may-have-more-risk-than-you-think/</a></p></blockquote><p>.</p><p>Here is roughly how I view my portfolio&#8217;s current macro and value/demand-driver diversification:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zg2G!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe2b036a-d59a-481d-a87e-487359ed64a3_814x531.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zg2G!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe2b036a-d59a-481d-a87e-487359ed64a3_814x531.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zg2G!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe2b036a-d59a-481d-a87e-487359ed64a3_814x531.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zg2G!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe2b036a-d59a-481d-a87e-487359ed64a3_814x531.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zg2G!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe2b036a-d59a-481d-a87e-487359ed64a3_814x531.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zg2G!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe2b036a-d59a-481d-a87e-487359ed64a3_814x531.png" width="814" height="531" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/be2b036a-d59a-481d-a87e-487359ed64a3_814x531.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:531,&quot;width&quot;:814,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:511410,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://intelligencequarterly.com/ahead-of-the-herd/the-thinking-mans-quad-system/">https://intelligencequarterly.com/ahead-of-the-herd/the-thinking-mans-quad-system/</a>; I then apply this idea in a manner similar to Ray Dalio&#8217;s concept of the &#8220;All-Weather&#8221; portfolio (see <a href="https://ofdollarsanddata.com/ray-dalio-all-weather-portfolio/">https://ofdollarsanddata.com/ray-dalio-all-weather-portfolio/</a>))</em></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Instead of using correlation as a measure of dependence between positions, [Ray] Dalio focuses on the underlying drivers that are expected to affect those positions. Drivers are the cause; correlations are the consequence. In order to ensure a diversified portfolio, it is necessary to select assets that have different drivers. By determining the future drivers that are likely to impact each market, a forward-looking approach, Dalio can more accurately assess which positions are likely to move in the same direction or inversely&#8212;for example, anticipate when gold and bonds are likely to move in the same direction and when they are likely to move in opposite directions. In contrast, making decisions based on correlation, which is backward looking, can lead to faulty decisions in forming portfolios. <strong>Dalio constructs portfolios so that the different positions have different drivers rather than simply being uncorrelated</strong>.</em>&#8221; ~~~ Jack Schwager, &#8220;Hedge Fund Market Wizards&#8221;</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fCpe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F81529945-444c-4f31-9bb2-cc195fce1d4e_1200x742.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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The reversal of governments to coal (<a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/energy-crisis-fuels-coal-comeback-germany-2022-12-16/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/energy-crisis-fuels-coal-comeback-germany-2022-12-16/</a>), wood (<a href="https://www.dw.com/en/eu-weighs-up-future-of-wood-burning-as-renewable-energy-source/a-64985113">https://www.dw.com/en/eu-weighs-up-future-of-wood-burning-as-renewable-energy-source/a-64985113</a>), and fossil fuels, accompanied by subsidies (<a href="https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/global-fossil-fuel-subsidies-rise-despite-calls-phase-out-2023-11-23/">https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/global-fossil-fuel-subsidies-rise-despite-calls-phase-out-2023-11-23/</a>), has already increased gasoline consumption. The failure of certain climate change policies is resulting in an &#8220;unexpected&#8221; increase in demand for coal, oil, and especially natural gas. It seems likely that governments and businesses, no longer able to hide the inadequacy of green policies, will turn to fossil fuels like natural gas as a more viable option, leading to a surge in demand beyond current forecasts. Investments in oil and gas may become more attractive as the narrative shifts away from strict adherence to ESG ideals.</p><p>In a recent interview with Daniel Yergin, author of the famous book on the history of the oil industry, &#8220;The Prize&#8221;, he predicts that&#8230;</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>The demand for natural gas will continue to grow until the 2040s, partly to replace coal in electricity generation. Oil and gas have different trajectories. But there is another thing to mention: It is only recently that Western governments have woken up to the fact that there is a problem with the supply chains of metals for green technologies. Now the alarm bell has gone off.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.nzz.ch/english/energy-guru-daniel-yergin-im-sick-of-the-discussion-about-energy-transition-ld.1821620">https://www.nzz.ch/english/energy-guru-daniel-yergin-im-sick-of-the-discussion-about-energy-transition-ld.1821620</a></p></blockquote><p>Also earlier in that same interview the question is asked &#8220;What is the difference between the current energy transition and previous ones?&#8221; to which the response is&#8230;</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Well, there is one fundamental difference. All of them were energy additions. Oil overtook coal as the world&#8217;s number one energy source in the 1960s. But coal hasn&#8217;t disappeared. Last year, the world used more coal than ever before, three times as much as in the 1960s. Now we are trying to go from one system to another in a really short time without paying a lot of attention to the amount of resources and minerals that would be required. [&#8230;] The aim is to shift supply chains away from China. However, this will be difficult because it is not only about mining, but also about China's dominance in the processing of metals and minerals. What&#8217;s more, the process from discovery to production in mining can take up to 20 years. I think that there has been an underestimation of the supply chain challenges that are apparent in the energy transition. [&#8230;] I think the world is becoming more fragile because of the breakdown of globalization. It&#8217;s almost time to be nostalgic, because that era of globalization is now over. And all trends and signs indicate that it&#8217;s going to get more challenging.</em>&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Aside from the deglobalization / supply chain issues (which will create other long-term inflationary knock-on effects), what I think is left (<em>just barely)</em> unsaid here is that the current push from fossil fuels to green/renewable energy technologies is the first energy transition that is 1] artificially imposed (vs being pursued by organic market forces seeking a <em>better</em> energy efficiency product), is 2] going from a <em>more</em> efficient energy source to <em>less</em> efficient ones, and 3] attempting to remove, by force, the use of the incumbent (and more efficient) energy source, rather than allowing natural competitive forces to result in the phasing out of the older source (which one would expect to happen if the newer source were actually superior).</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>If one studies the history of energy, its production and consumption, new technologies with superior energy efficiency always displace old technologies with inferior energy efficiency. As the pundits argued, if wind and solar were ideal forms of energy with superior energy efficiencies, we would be forced to leave behind our oil and gas investments and embrace renewables, as renewables would ultimately displace all hydrocarbon-related energy production</strong>. [&#8230;] Despite being heralded as the future, wind and solar have terrible EROIs [energy return on investment, which measures how much input energy is required to generate a unit of usable power output]. Compared with coal or natural gas, sunlight and wind are not energy-dense. Compare the energy from a gas stove with a stiff breeze or a sunny afternoon; they are different orders of magnitude. Since renewable energy density is so low, their size must be enormous to generate the same output. [&#8230;] Large size means copious raw materials, which consume enormous energy. As a result, the energy required to generate output is very high, and the EROI is low. [&#8230;] We concluded that between 50 and 70% of the fall in wind and solar energy&#8217;s LCOE [levelized cost of electricity for a generator over its lifetime] was attributable directly to lower capital and energy costs. [&#8230;] A decade of abundant energy and loose liquidity helped mask renewables&#8217; poor efficiency. That is now over.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.gorozen.com/commentaries/3q2023">https://www.gorozen.com/commentaries/3q2023</a></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!clic!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F340a3ae4-cc11-4ebe-ad73-7d36072f82dc_1937x1791.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!clic!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F340a3ae4-cc11-4ebe-ad73-7d36072f82dc_1937x1791.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-per-energy-source">https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-per-energy-source</a>; <a href="https://energy.glex.no/feature-stories/area-and-material-consumption">https://energy.glex.no/feature-stories/area-and-material-consumption</a></em>)</p><p>From &#8220;The Bitcoin Miner&#8217;s Almanac&#8221;&#8230;</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Strong stable and predictable nuclear energy has an incredibly high capacity factor [how much energy a generator actually produces relative to it&#8217;s actual nameplate capacity], ranging in the 80s and 90s. This means a nuclear energy facility with a nameplate capacity of 1 GW of enegry, or 1000 MW, is consistently producing power in the 800 to 900 MW range over a given period. Compare that to a wind farm with the same 1 GW installed capacity. You can expect to consistently operate at a capacity factor between 20% to 40%, producing 200 to 400 MW of energy over a given period. <strong>These capacity factors suggest that to produce the same amount of energy from a wind farm as a nuclear plant in a given year, you would have to triple or quadruple the size of your wind farm</strong>. [&#8230;] And I haven&#8217;t even mentioned the immense utilization of hydrocarbons to manufacture, deliver, and install those electrical generators &#8212;and the geopolitical risks tied to lithium and cobalt production.</em>&#8221; ~~~ Robert Warren</p></blockquote><p>In any case, just because something is a good business, that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s a good <em>buy</em> right now. I&#8217;ll just note that these positions were initially bought during the brief dip in the markets in September of 2021 and I&#8217;ve not added much to them since. Rather, they have grown naturally to their existing weightings in part due to elevated energy price levels since that time (as well as due to certain <a href="https://www.viperenergy.com/news-releases/news-release-details/viper-energy-partners-lp-subsidiary-diamondback-energy-inc-110">changes in corporate structure</a> and <a href="https://seekingalpha.com/news/4114401-sp-400-rejig-htz-penn-to-exit-index-illumina-moves-down-from-sp-500">index inclusions</a>).</p><h2>GBTC + WELX + IBIT: (13% of portfolio; +45% YTD weighted average)</h2><p>Not much has changed here from the <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139945007/grayscale-bitcoin-trust-gbtc-of-portfolio-gainloss">end of 2023</a> in regards to how I think about the investment.</p><p>For anyone curious about my current thoughts on the crypto miner, WELX, given their long-standing holdings of Mt.Gox crypto bankruptcy claims that are apparently now set to be paid out, see the brief substack note/thread I posted here (TLDR: I think the price has gotten ahead of value for the time being, even if their at-cost claims are about to get marked-(up)-to-market): </p><div class="comment" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.substack.com/home&quot;,&quot;commentId&quot;:60149793,&quot;comment&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:60149793,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2024-06-26T23:02:15.140Z&quot;,&quot;edited_at&quot;:&quot;2024-06-26T23:03:22.484Z&quot;,&quot;body&quot;:&quot;Looks like we're finally going to get to see what's behind WELX&#8217;s Mt Gox claims and be marking to market that rights-to-payment line. I estimate they have a look-through interest of around 60-70 BTC thru their Gox claims (though I know that some share of these claims have 'profit share' conditions as a part of how they were acquired).\n\nhttps://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/06/24/mt-gox-to-begin-bitcoin-bitcoin-cash-repayments-in-july/?utm_content=editorial&amp;utm_campaign=coindesk_main&amp;utm_source=twitter&amp;utm_term=organic&amp;utm_medium=social\n\nIMO, WELX&#8217;s price has already gotten well ahead of itself. My total estimated BTC for the co (including estimated amount through the MtGox claims) is around $2.30/sh + tiny PP&amp;E (around $0.20/sh) + stagnant device biz I set at ~$1.40/sh (12x segment EPS). \n\nAt current stock price, IMO, better to buy IBIT or BTC directly unless BTC prices hold stagnant (unlikely) while WELX continues to stack sats for the next few years.&quot;,&quot;body_json&quot;:{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;doc&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;schemaVersion&quot;:&quot;v1&quot;},&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Looks like we're finally going to get to see what's behind WELX&#8217;s Mt Gox claims and be marking to market that rights-to-payment line. I estimate they have a look-through interest of around 60-70 BTC thru their Gox claims (though I know that some share of these claims have 'profit share' conditions as a part of how they were acquired).&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/06/24/mt-gox-to-begin-bitcoin-bitcoin-cash-repayments-in-july/?utm_content=editorial&amp;utm_campaign=coindesk_main&amp;utm_source=twitter&amp;utm_term=organic&amp;utm_medium=social&quot;,&quot;target&quot;:&quot;_blank&quot;,&quot;rel&quot;:&quot;nofollow ugc noopener&quot;,&quot;class&quot;:&quot;note-link&quot;}}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/06/24/mt-gox-to-begin-bitcoin-bitcoin-cash-repayments-in-july/?utm_content=editorial&amp;utm_campaign=coindesk_main&amp;utm_source=twitter&amp;utm_term=organic&amp;utm_medium=social&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;IMO, WELX&#8217;s price has already gotten well ahead of itself. My total estimated BTC for the co (including estimated amount through the MtGox claims) is around $2.30/sh + tiny PP&amp;E (around $0.20/sh) + stagnant device biz I set at ~$1.40/sh (12x segment EPS). &quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;At current stock price, IMO, better to buy IBIT or BTC directly &quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;marks&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;italic&quot;}],&quot;text&quot;:&quot;unless&quot;},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot; BTC prices hold stagnant (unlikely) while WELX continues to stack sats for the next few years.&quot;}]}]},&quot;restacks&quot;:0,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;attachments&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:&quot;b2452800-8dfc-4f62-8c70-83b66afae776&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image&quot;,&quot;imageUrl&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7e069f53-06b0-4ddb-8d6e-dd9206804d62_1590x550.png&quot;,&quot;imageWidth&quot;:1590,&quot;imageHeight&quot;:550,&quot;explicit&quot;:false},{&quot;id&quot;:&quot;60fe13d0-58ed-493f-88f1-7ea87e94ce3d&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;link&quot;,&quot;linkMetadata&quot;:{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/06/24/mt-gox-to-begin-bitcoin-bitcoin-cash-repayments-in-july/?utm_content=editorial&amp;utm_campaign=coindesk_main&amp;utm_source=twitter&amp;utm_term=organic&amp;utm_medium=social&quot;,&quot;host&quot;:&quot;coindesk.com&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Mt. Gox to Begin Repayments in July; BTC Slides Under $61K&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;The defunct crypto exchange is supposed to return over 140,000 bitcoin to victims of the 2014 hack.&quot;,&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/db909246-41b0-4635-8afb-c7621c21c92c_1200x628.jpeg&quot;,&quot;original_image&quot;:&quot;https://www.coindesk.com/resizer/WC0KgIoke-W-VaMtFhL0b7T7KQ4=/1200x628/center/middle/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/coindesk/BDYQ3AVPBFFGBEUUOTP5726E74.jpg&quot;},&quot;explicit&quot;:false}],&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;user_id&quot;:58613880,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;user_bestseller_tier&quot;:null}}" data-component-name="CommentPlaceholder"></div><p>For my general thoughts on Bitcoin, one can read the older post here: </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;4235ebbe-2fb0-4523-b278-94661e97efff&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&#8220;I think the key ingredient of that is focusing on what is the risk you&#8217;re taking. I think a lot of people get in a lot of trouble because they do a transaction and they don&#8217;t understand what the risk they&#8217;re assuming is when they do the transaction. What he taught me more than anything else was, look at the deal and figure out where is the vulnerabilit&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($FRMO) FRMO Corp: The Most Important Things - Part 3.1: Bitcoin is the \&quot;better money\&quot;&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2022-07-21T06:36:53.149Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/h_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fccb498d5-3d4d-4c90-957b-7e19d747face_612x407.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/frmo-the-most-important-things-part-f3c&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:64709954,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><h2>FNV, Franco Nevada Corp.: (6% of portfolio; 24% YTD)</h2><p>********** UPDATE 20240719: </p><p>I did not include this when I originally made this post because my portfolio is only weighted 3% in FNV stock, but if I were to factor in the underlying economic interest via call options which I initially bought alongside my equity position, then the total exposure rises to 6%; I figure accounting for total economic exposure is a more transparent method when listing off &#8220;top portfolio positions&#8221;.</p><p>Since the time I originally wrote on this situation in the beginning of 2024, FNV stock has gone up 24% from $105/sh to $131/sh, right about where I had initially valued the business. However, this rise was primarily due to the rise in gold prices (20%) and the FNV/gold sh/oz ratio of how many shares an oz of gold could get you is still the same as when I wrote this post, at 18x. </p><p>Rate cuts, expected later this year, could further boost gold prices and FNV&#8217;s stock in kind (<a href="https://seekingalpha.com/news/4124828-gold-settles-at-all-time-highs-citi-sees-potential-for-continued-gains-to-3000">https://seekingalpha.com/news/4124828-gold-settles-at-all-time-highs-citi-sees-potential-for-continued-gains-to-3000</a>). </p><p>Adjusting my original Cobre-reopening-contingent price target to account for this year&#8217;s rise in gold prices would put it at a target of $156/sh (=135x1.20) &#8212;assuming gold prices remain the same. </p><p>Panama&#8217;s new President, Jose Raul Mulino, was elected in May and was sworn into office on July 1. Unlike other candidates, Mulino has been seen as less adversarial to the Cobre project and his election has been interpreted as a positive sign towards the possible reopening of the mine (<a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/first-quantum-seek-dialogue-with-new-administration-panama-over-cobre-panama-2024-05-06/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/first-quantum-seek-dialogue-with-new-administration-panama-over-cobre-panama-2024-05-06/</a>; <a href="https://archive.ph/JZBMY">https://archive.ph/JZBMY</a>). Both the Panama government and First Quantum have strong economic incentives to come to the negotiating table here and I think some kind of settlement will be negotiated within, say, 12 months or before the end of 2025.</p><p>My original thesis on FNV can be found here: </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;fb24f6b4-7ef5-46bf-afb3-7cef85e1b38c&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;********** UPDATE 20240716: Since the time I originally write this article&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($FNV) Franco-Nevada Corporation: Gold royalty royalty in temporary turmoil&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2024-02-02T23:45:25.349Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb70ae4c0-84d2-4400-9fe7-9c548ddde300_2100x2348.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/fnv-franco-nevada-corporation-gold&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:140784655,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:7,&quot;comment_count&quot;:2,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>**********</p><h2>FRMO, FRMO Corp.: (5% of portfolio; +16% YTD)</h2><p>In a similar vein to WELX, I think that FRMO is rather fairly valued at this point &#8212;if not slightly overvalued. I continue to hold on to this stock, but have sold off small bits of portfolio basis points from the position to average into other holdings like the RENN Fund and others when I think the market discounts to fair value in those other names are more attractive (and where value-realization &#8216;durations&#8217; and general demand driver exposure are similar).</p><p>Here is my basic model for valuing FRMO:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E3P_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb529df6-5c43-49b6-9c64-80a40ea2d405_1766x612.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!E3P_!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcb529df6-5c43-49b6-9c64-80a40ea2d405_1766x612.png" width="1200" height="416.2087912087912" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/cb529df6-5c43-49b6-9c64-80a40ea2d405_1766x612.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:505,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:294900,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>You can use either the market price for SLGD to determine what FRMO&#8217;s 4.955% stake in HK LLC (which is reverse merging into SLGD) is worth or use can use the method that I outlined in my previous post on the reverse merger here:</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;09409862-6c4b-4eaa-be57-a3690fbe22fd&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;TLDR: Asset management company Horizon Kinetics LLC (HK) is going public via reverse merger into OTC microcap company Scott&#8217;s Liquid Gold (SLGD). It may be tempting to look at the reverse merger&#8217;s targeted/engineered $1.25/sh post-merger &#8220;IPO&#8221; price, paired with one&#8217;s admiration for HK founder Murray Stahl&#8217;s investment thought and demonstrated sharehold&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($SLGD) Scott's Liquid Gold / Horizon Kinetics LLC: Not every reverse merger that glitters is gold&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2024-04-05T13:32:28.349Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2da056c2-d876-46a2-919e-3146b0a2032a_493x614.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/slgd-scotts-liquid-gold-horizon-kinetics&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:143175435,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:6,&quot;comment_count&quot;:11,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>The HK revenue stream value, I determined based on working backwards from a simple DCF model using the known historical fees that FRMO has gotten from this stream and the apparent fact that HK revenues have grown very little over time (see my SLGD post for more details on how I come to this conclusion); I then just round that figure up to $20MM from around $19MM.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F6_T!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fb09f13-348a-45e7-aa5f-bf3ff11dc92e_864x540.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F6_T!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fb09f13-348a-45e7-aa5f-bf3ff11dc92e_864x540.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F6_T!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fb09f13-348a-45e7-aa5f-bf3ff11dc92e_864x540.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F6_T!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fb09f13-348a-45e7-aa5f-bf3ff11dc92e_864x540.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F6_T!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fb09f13-348a-45e7-aa5f-bf3ff11dc92e_864x540.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F6_T!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fb09f13-348a-45e7-aa5f-bf3ff11dc92e_864x540.png" width="864" height="540" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2fb09f13-348a-45e7-aa5f-bf3ff11dc92e_864x540.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:540,&quot;width&quot;:864,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F6_T!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fb09f13-348a-45e7-aa5f-bf3ff11dc92e_864x540.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F6_T!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fb09f13-348a-45e7-aa5f-bf3ff11dc92e_864x540.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F6_T!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fb09f13-348a-45e7-aa5f-bf3ff11dc92e_864x540.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!F6_T!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fb09f13-348a-45e7-aa5f-bf3ff11dc92e_864x540.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(Ignore the margin of safety and stock price stuff in the graphic here as that&#8217;s just an artifact of my inputting the nominal book value of the stream)</em>.</p><h2>RCG, The RENN Fund: (4.5% of portfolio; +3.6% YTD)</h2><p>Really nothing much new to report here since <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139945007/the-renn-fund-rcg-of-portfolio-gainloss">my 2023 review</a>. I think of this as a VC fund curated by Murray Stahl and I expect the performance to either do nothing until I finally capitulate and sell it off or for HK to figure out something to close the discount and get their NAV above the $25MM threshold to start earning fees on the fund and/or for one or more of their private investments to take off and become one of those &#8216;<em>20 year over-night success stories.</em>&#8217; Management it well-aligned with shareholders and you&#8217;re getting exposure to several of Stahl&#8217;s private equity ideas that you would not be getting exposure to elsewhere across the HK complex.</p><p>You can see my initial investment thesis (with some minor updates) here:</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;98183073-3663-4d88-b723-acdaee2ab9ba&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&#8220;If I was running $1 million today, or $10 million for that matter, I&#8217;d be fully invested. Anyone who says that size does not hurt investment performance is selling. The highest rates of return I&#8217;ve ever achieved were in the 1950s. I killed the Dow. You ought to see the numbers. But I was investing peanuts then. It&#8217;s a huge structural advantage not to h&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($RCG) The RENN Fund: A diversified and discounted permanent-capital nanocap with a lot of optionality (and a few private companies), being run for free by smart allocators.&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2023-03-11T00:45:40.917Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe50b2e-03f5-4f49-b374-faaf093fe55a_830x549.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/rcg-the-renn-fund-a-discounted-stahl&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:105997445,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:3,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><h2>APG, APi Group: (4% of portfolio; +12% YTD)</h2><p>See <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139945007/api-group-apg-of-portfolio-gainloss">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139945007/api-group-apg-of-portfolio-gainloss</a>. </p><p>.</p><p>One final note: I sold off my OTCM position to fund some smaller positions that I think have better upside prospects for now. Basically, I think it&#8217;s a good business, but I think current prices are already very fair, so the odds and upsides here just seem to recommend using that capital to fund other investments. I think this article sufficiently covers how I also generally thought about selling this position for the time being: <a href="https://seekingalpha.com/article/4698794-otc-markets-group-stock-wrong-price-for-fine-business-hold-for-now">https://seekingalpha.com/article/4698794-otc-markets-group-stock-wrong-price-for-fine-business-hold-for-now</a>. </p><h1>Some notable new nano positions</h1><p>I have a habit of collecting up small positions in stocks that I think are interesting even when I think they are already either fairly valued or have upside catalysts that are pretty unlikely. In this case, in a similar manner to my interest in gold royalty FNV, we have some &#8220;contingency-investments&#8221; coming in as various small additions&#8230;</p><h2>CRMZ, CreditRiskMonitor.com (1% of portfolio; -9% YTD)</h2><p>I have only a small position at the moment and the price has been coming down recently. My current assumption is that it is due to market anticipation of lower rates incoming and expectations for lower inflation and economic volatility going forward (see <a href="https://archive.is/RBj4h">https://archive.is/RBj4h</a>). Even if I agreed with Mr.Market on these expectations, I&#8217;d note that such a time &#8212;one where the future economic environment appears to be, and the price action is reflecting, an environment presenting structural headwinds to CRMZ&#8217;s business dynamics&#8212; would be a good one for accumulating shares of this owner-operated, no-debt, anti-market-correlated business to hold for the longterm. </p><p>I can&#8217;t seem to find very many anti-correlated businesses that I like, so I&#8217;m always interested in owning bits of those kinds of things when I do find them. I&#8217;m currently twiddling my thumbs for a lower price right now, since dollar cost averaging in tiny amounts can be a pain for OTC-traded stocks given the transaction fees that come with it. </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;7c27fb41-af3b-4103-bdc1-87d242223ea5&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&#8220;Given the inflationary environment in 2022, the corresponding tightening of interest rates by central banks, and the number of businesses with limited ability to cover their interest expenses with earnings, the Company expects that the number of corporate bankruptcies will at worst return to long-term average levels which will support the need for the &#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($CRMZ) CreditRiskMonitor.com: Commentary&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2023-10-17T23:58:53.627Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ec28fd8-7f8c-46bf-91cb-6fff90b999aa_500x637.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/crmz-creditriskmonitorcom-commentary&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:136422246,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:3,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><h2>ITEX (1% of portfolio; +25% YTD)</h2><p>This is a rather well covered microcap, so IDK that there&#8217;s much I&#8217;d add to that information; I had been writing something as a draft, but haven&#8217;t gotten around to finishing it. In any case, you can get a good read on the company at various points in time up to more recent years in the writeups here: <a href="https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/search/ITEX">https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/search/ITEX</a></p><p>Along a similar theme to CRMZ, ITEX is an asset-light, shareholder-aligned/incentivized company that benefits from times of economic stress, acting as a network for member users to liquidate/move excess inventory or capacity without having to resort to heavy discounts, but rather allowing a barter of value for value between member businesses. For example a restaurant experiencing a drop in table reservations during a recession could exchange the value of those reservations for a local member company&#8217;s printing services of equivalent (ITEX-dollar) value that the restaurant can use for advertising themselves. Unlike post-2020 CRMZ, ITEX has also long paid a dividend which could come in handy in times of economic stress for dollar-cost-averaging into opportunities that would undoubtably be available in such a scenario. One thing to note, though, is that unlike CRMZ, the business is a bit of a melting iceberg (with revenues declining at around a 7% CAGR since their peak in 2010). Such an asset can still be valuable, but it means one should be <em>doubly</em> careful about the price paid for any shares &#8212;especially considering how illiquid the stock is.</p><p>My position here is small at the moment as the stock is very illiquid and volumes started picking up the day after I started DCA&#8217;ing into the stock, but I&#8217;d be open to put a few more portfolio percentage points into the name at the right prices.</p><p>.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! Subscribe for free to receive new posts in the future.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Let&#8217;s look at the portfolio as having just two stocks that we could have put out money towards: Lemon Cakes ETF (LC) and Cash.</p><p>Our total return for the year so far could be calculated like this:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t4U1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F29dee9bc-7668-4e02-aef3-da188b8e9f4f_310x32.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t4U1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F29dee9bc-7668-4e02-aef3-da188b8e9f4f_310x32.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t4U1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F29dee9bc-7668-4e02-aef3-da188b8e9f4f_310x32.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t4U1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F29dee9bc-7668-4e02-aef3-da188b8e9f4f_310x32.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t4U1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F29dee9bc-7668-4e02-aef3-da188b8e9f4f_310x32.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t4U1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F29dee9bc-7668-4e02-aef3-da188b8e9f4f_310x32.png" width="310" height="32" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/29dee9bc-7668-4e02-aef3-da188b8e9f4f_310x32.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:32,&quot;width&quot;:310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:4182,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t4U1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F29dee9bc-7668-4e02-aef3-da188b8e9f4f_310x32.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t4U1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F29dee9bc-7668-4e02-aef3-da188b8e9f4f_310x32.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t4U1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F29dee9bc-7668-4e02-aef3-da188b8e9f4f_310x32.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t4U1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F29dee9bc-7668-4e02-aef3-da188b8e9f4f_310x32.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>where&#8230; </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7tl2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb055b04c-8fce-4f64-9c0f-6e04a5e3d4cb_409x29.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7tl2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb055b04c-8fce-4f64-9c0f-6e04a5e3d4cb_409x29.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7tl2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb055b04c-8fce-4f64-9c0f-6e04a5e3d4cb_409x29.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7tl2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb055b04c-8fce-4f64-9c0f-6e04a5e3d4cb_409x29.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7tl2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb055b04c-8fce-4f64-9c0f-6e04a5e3d4cb_409x29.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7tl2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb055b04c-8fce-4f64-9c0f-6e04a5e3d4cb_409x29.png" width="409" height="29" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b055b04c-8fce-4f64-9c0f-6e04a5e3d4cb_409x29.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:29,&quot;width&quot;:409,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:5726,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7tl2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb055b04c-8fce-4f64-9c0f-6e04a5e3d4cb_409x29.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7tl2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb055b04c-8fce-4f64-9c0f-6e04a5e3d4cb_409x29.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7tl2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb055b04c-8fce-4f64-9c0f-6e04a5e3d4cb_409x29.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7tl2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb055b04c-8fce-4f64-9c0f-6e04a5e3d4cb_409x29.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>I had to copy images of the LaTex as Substack&#8217;s built-in interpreter seems unable to render it when it&#8217;s in the footnotes section, IDK why; and if anyone knows how to get \newline to work in Substack&#8217;s LaTex, do let me know.</em>)</p><p>We can get the return of the Lemon Cakes ETF as&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zITS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f014aa-28d5-42c2-aa64-82bc4a83aa5d_298x34.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zITS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f014aa-28d5-42c2-aa64-82bc4a83aa5d_298x34.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zITS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f014aa-28d5-42c2-aa64-82bc4a83aa5d_298x34.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zITS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f014aa-28d5-42c2-aa64-82bc4a83aa5d_298x34.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zITS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f014aa-28d5-42c2-aa64-82bc4a83aa5d_298x34.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zITS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f014aa-28d5-42c2-aa64-82bc4a83aa5d_298x34.png" width="298" height="34" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/71f014aa-28d5-42c2-aa64-82bc4a83aa5d_298x34.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:34,&quot;width&quot;:298,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:4314,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zITS!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f014aa-28d5-42c2-aa64-82bc4a83aa5d_298x34.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zITS!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f014aa-28d5-42c2-aa64-82bc4a83aa5d_298x34.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zITS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f014aa-28d5-42c2-aa64-82bc4a83aa5d_298x34.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zITS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f014aa-28d5-42c2-aa64-82bc4a83aa5d_298x34.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Our cash allocation to Cash is 17% and whether we say the cash return was 0% or 2.3% (accounting for the 4.6% interest rate), so the return on the Lemon Cakes ETF still comes out to around 11.75%.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I have a Google Spreadsheets sheet that contains columns for Ticker, % of portfolio, demand drivers, and macro quads. </p><p>The &#8220;demand drivers&#8221; column contains semicolon-delimited lists of short descriptions of the general value and demand drivers that I think best describe what drives the business for that ticker that are still general enough to apply to more than just that specific company. The &#8220;macro quads&#8221; column contains semicolon-delimited lists of the primary (and tertiary, if applicable) macroeconomic quads that I think would act as meaningful tailwinds for a given ticker. The macroeconomic quads I use to determine the labels to apply for each ticker is shown below:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vok_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd05c334b-a336-46e1-9157-ea50d40831c1_817x530.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vok_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd05c334b-a336-46e1-9157-ea50d40831c1_817x530.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vok_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd05c334b-a336-46e1-9157-ea50d40831c1_817x530.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vok_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd05c334b-a336-46e1-9157-ea50d40831c1_817x530.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vok_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd05c334b-a336-46e1-9157-ea50d40831c1_817x530.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vok_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd05c334b-a336-46e1-9157-ea50d40831c1_817x530.png" width="817" height="530" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d05c334b-a336-46e1-9157-ea50d40831c1_817x530.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:530,&quot;width&quot;:817,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:512953,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vok_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd05c334b-a336-46e1-9157-ea50d40831c1_817x530.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vok_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd05c334b-a336-46e1-9157-ea50d40831c1_817x530.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vok_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd05c334b-a336-46e1-9157-ea50d40831c1_817x530.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Vok_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd05c334b-a336-46e1-9157-ea50d40831c1_817x530.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>From an old article by Nicholas Glinsman of Malmgren-Glinsman Partners (see <a href="https://intelligencequarterly.com/ahead-of-the-herd/the-thinking-mans-quad-system/">https://intelligencequarterly.com/ahead-of-the-herd/the-thinking-mans-quad-system/</a>); I then apply this idea in a manner similar to Ray Dalio&#8217;s concept of the &#8220;All-Weather&#8221; portfolio (see <a href="https://ofdollarsanddata.com/ray-dalio-all-weather-portfolio/">https://ofdollarsanddata.com/ray-dalio-all-weather-portfolio/</a>)</em>)</p><p>Now to determine the various exposures to different demand drivers of the total portfolio, I do this. In a separate sheet, I use a set of formulas to first list all of the portfolio weights for each ticker and the list of demand drivers for that ticker. Then I have formulas to break up each individual ticker&#8217;s list of demand drivers and <em>uniformly</em> distribute the ticker&#8217;s total portfolio weights, so a row of stock weighting and value/demand drivers cells for, say, Wheaton Precious Metals, that looks like&#8230; </p><pre><code>3% | Gold prices; Gold GOE prod. volumes; geopol tensions</code></pre><p>Will end up as multiple rows that look like&#8230; </p><pre><code>1% | GOLD PRICES
1% | GOLD GOE PROD.
1% | GEOPOL TENSIONS</code></pre><p>I then use all of these final pairs of distributed portfolio weightings and associated drivers to create a pivot table that aggregates everything across all of the companies by the value/demand driver labels and displays the sum portfolio weighting associated with that label.</p><p>When doing this exercise for the set of the 50 highest-weighted S&amp;P 500 stocks, I am getting the list of top 50 positions with company name, ticker, and index weighting data, having an LLM (Anthropic&#8217;s Claude 3.5 Sonnet) generate the macro quads and generalized demand drivers lists for me, and spot-checking the outputs to check that they make actual sense &#8212;so there is the possibility of some bias there on my part, but I think the outputs were reasonable and anyone can do a similar exercise to this on their own and adjust things however they think is most accurate.</p><p>(As a spot-check, I gave the LLM my own list of portfolio holdings and had it come up with the individual and aggregate macro exposures on its own and it came up with a roughly similar distribution to the one I came up with. So at the very least, it does not appear that I am too biased in my estimation of my portfolio&#8217;s macro diversification vs the S&amp;P 500 <em>on a relative basis</em>.)</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[($SLGD/$SLGDD) Scott's Liquid Gold / Horizon Kinetics LLC: Not every reverse merger that glitters is gold]]></title><description><![CDATA[Analyzing the spread between SLGD's current discount to the reverse merger's planned "IPO" price]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/slgd-scotts-liquid-gold-horizon-kinetics</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/slgd-scotts-liquid-gold-horizon-kinetics</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2024 13:32:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2da056c2-d876-46a2-919e-3146b0a2032a_493x614.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TLDR: Asset management company Horizon Kinetics LLC (HK) is going public via reverse merger into OTC microcap company Scott&#8217;s Liquid Gold (SLGD). It may be tempting to look at the reverse merger&#8217;s targeted/engineered $1.25/sh post-merger &#8220;IPO&#8221; price, paired with one&#8217;s admiration for HK founder Murray Stahl&#8217;s investment thought and demonstrated shareholder friendliness, and see the current trading price of the reverse merger parent stock (~$0.86/sh at the time of my writing this) as an easy and quite significant arbitrage. However, <strong>IMO, the market is not making unreasonable assumptions in how it&#8217;s currently pricing SLGD.</strong></p><p>Lump this post in the basket of other <em>&#8216;interesting stock, but I wouldn&#8217;t buy right now</em>&#8217; posts I&#8217;ve written. I&#8217;m basically only writing this to possibly help any other fellow investors in the HK complex of funds or sister companies to avoid a possible stinker here &#8212;or to get feedback from y&#8217;all on why I&#8217;m wrong about this and should actually be buying at these levels (as the spread <em>is</em> nominally quite large). This post also could be thought of as containing a general framework to think about the stock as prices fluctuate &#8212;and possibly provide a more attractive opportunity&#8212; ahead of the (expected) end of April 2024 merger completion date.</p><p><strong>Keep in mind that I wouldn&#8217;t say that the current price of $0.86 is necessarily my own price target (IDK that I fully have one at the moment). More so I&#8217;m just looking at what the market is saying and going &#8220;</strong><em><strong>Does that make sense? Is that justified? What would one have to believe to price the stock like that?</strong></em><strong>&#8221; and playing around with some numbers to try to see what kind of reasonable assumptions lead to that current price. </strong>I'm doing that and, after playing with the numbers and POVs a bit, going &#8220;<em>Hmm, maybe Mr.Market(-for-SLGD-stock) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> has a point here.</em>&#8221; There are not-unreasonable POVs from which I think the current market-implied price for HKAM makes sense as I will try to show.</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;2956f5cf-7e99-47f0-be30-b19493f45aab&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>(<em>Source: <a href="https://youtu.be/7NeaDNaZcp0?si=3WckRAKtyqFLUPC9&amp;t=192">here</a></em>)</p><p>*<em>I should note that I own a significant position in FRMO which owns a 4.95% stake in HK LLC, so even though I&#8217;m saying that I wouldn&#8217;t buy SLGD (soon to be HK) or that it&#8217;s not very undervalued at the moment, I&#8217;d still benefit to some degree if SLGD popped after the merger.</em></p><p>**<em>When I show spreadsheets here, blue text means that it is a figure that I&#8217;m deriving myself / is based on formulas in the sheet, while black text is usually hard-coded values (eg. based on data directly copied from another source). Cells are are colored pink denote values that should be noted as key assumptions that are being used in the sheet.</em></p><p>*** When we look at financial statements from FRMO that include results of HK LLC, note that there is going to be some oddness because as mentioned in the <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023.pdf">FRMO 2023 annual letter</a>: &#8220;<em>Horizon Kinetics is on a calendar fiscal year and FRMO is on a May fiscal year, so that the March 31, 2023 financial statements for Horizon Kinetics were the latest available at the time that the FRMO financial statements were prepared.</em>&#8221; </p><h1>Contents</h1><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/143175435/background-info">Background info</a></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/143175435/the-merger">The merger</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/143175435/why-they-did-it">Why they did it</a></p></li></ul></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/143175435/calculation-of-final-consideration">Calculation of Final Consideration</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/143175435/theoretical-ipo-value-of-slgdhk">Theoretical &#8220;IPO&#8221; value of SLGD/HK</a></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/143175435/hkam">HKAM</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/143175435/hk-nav">HK NAV</a></p></li></ul></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/143175435/price-implied-expectations-pie-for-hks-value-post-merger">Price implied expectations (PIE) for HK&#8217;s value, post-merger</a></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/143175435/of-aum">% of AUM</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/143175435/perpetual-growth-model">Perpetual growth model</a></p></li></ul></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/143175435/epilogue">Epilogue</a></p></li></ul><h1>Background info</h1><p>The relevant entities:</p><ul><li><p>Scott&#8217;s Liquid Gold (SLGD): SLGD is a public microcap that trades on the OTC Markets. I don&#8217;t really know much about the company. I&#8217;m currently going on the assumption that the market price they had before their announcement of the reverse merger with HK was basically fair value. In any case, given their relative pre-merger size vs HK, I don&#8217;t think that too much of an analysis of the business is needed to understand the value of the overall deal we&#8217;re going to cover. </p><ul><li><p>Regardless, here is a quick history of the company: Incorporated in 1954, SLGD initially focused on its namesake Scott's Liquid Gold household cleaning products and, over time, expanded into household and personal care products. Starting around 2022, the company started making significant divestments of various product lines leaving them with only the Kids N Pets and Messy Pet product lines by the start of 2023. In December 2023, SLGD announced that it had agreed to a (reverse) merger with HK LLC with Horizon Kinetics being the surviving entity. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p></li></ul></li><li><p>Horizon Kinetics (HK): HK is an asset management company founded in 1994 by Murray Stahl, Steven Bregman, Peter Doyle, Tom Ewing, and John Meditz. </p><ul><li><p>In more recent news, you may know Stalh and HK for their involvement in converting the 100-bagger stock Texas Pacific Land Corp, TPL, (of which they&#8217;ve been long-time investors in and now own around 20% of) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> from a trust to a C-corp and later getting sued by the rest of the company&#8217;s BoD (whom are much less invested and aligned with shareholders, I might add) for opposing the dilution of existing shareholders for the purpose of providing &#8216;deal currency&#8217; for unprecedented M&amp;A adventures by the rest of company management <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>. </p></li><li><p>For more information see their SEC Form ADV <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> and other disclusures here: <a href="https://files.adviserinfo.sec.gov/IAPD/Content/Common/crd_iapd_Brochure.aspx?BRCHR_VRSN_ID=902164">https://files.adviserinfo.sec.gov/IAPD/Content/Common/crd_iapd_Brochure.aspx?BRCHR_VRSN_ID=902164</a>; <a href="https://adviserinfo.sec.gov/firm/summary/106096">https://adviserinfo.sec.gov/firm/summary/106096</a>; (here is some info on their subsidiary KBD Securities (which I assume stands for &#8216;Kinetics Broker Dealer&#8217;) that also mentioned in the merger agreement) <a href="https://brokercheck.finra.org/firm/summary/104110">https://brokercheck.finra.org/firm/summary/104110</a></p></li></ul></li><li><p>FRMO Corp. (FRMO): FRMO is a public (asset holding) company founded by Stahl around 2001 in which he and co-founder Steve Bregman each own 16% of the common shares and take no other form of compensation. While not directly part of the transaction, they have a 4.95% equity stake and 4.199% revenue participation interest (read as: &#8220;royalty&#8221;) in HK. I&#8217;ve owned the stock for a good while and they are relevant to this discussion because, through their equity stake (which prompted them to start including summarized financials of HK in their annual reports starting in 2020) and revenue interest (from which we can derive a rough sense of what HK&#8217;s total revenues might be), we can derive some historical financial data for HK in this situation where we would otherwise have no public source from which to make educated estimates of HK&#8217;s fundamentals. </p><ul><li><p>For more information about FRMO, I&#8217;ve written more on the company it in the past <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/frmo-frmo-corp-commentary-on-frmos">here</a> </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;fa9a5819-c114-4363-9326-215bc5642f54&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;********** UPDATE 20231225: Some updated thoughts on the value of Winland Holdings (WELX) which is now at around $3.10/sh&#8230; So let's say WELX has a total look-through ownership of 135BTC (75BTC on the B/S + the Mt.Gox claims that I assume is 60BTC) and that number is always slowly rising. At $45K&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($FRMO) FRMO Corp: The 2022 Crypto Winter and FRMO's vertically modular crypto conglomerate&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2023-08-04T20:54:29.418Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2072a40b-674f-4edd-8be8-307e83b07131_1152x672.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/frmo-frmo-corp-commentary-on-frmos&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:135459053,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:2,&quot;comment_count&quot;:4,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>and <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/frmo-an-underfollowed-jockey-based">here</a> </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;08c0ad67-4338-4126-ade1-778230706c50&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;********** UPDATE 20240210: Here is a screenshot of my spreadsheet that makes some adjustments to certain holdings of FRMO. 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Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p><em>(note that the latter article was the first post I ever wrote so the writing is a lot looser and rambles even more than in my more recent stuff; this was written at a time when I had to make zero considerations for the idea that anyone might actually read anything here; I&#8217;d encourage readers to view the About section of this substack)</em>.</p></li></ul></li></ul><h3>The merger</h3><p>For the full details on the deal, see the SLGD 8K filing here: <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/0000950170-23-072802-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/0000950170-23-072802-index.htm</a></p><p>Like I mentioned, in late December 2023, SLGD announced that it had agreed to a (reverse) merger with HK LLC with HK being the surviving entity. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tuG4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab439aa2-e76f-465d-a6cb-2018274d43a7_685x414.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Directors and Officers&#8221; of the 8K)). After the merger &#8220;<em>[t]he Company currently expects its legacy shareholder ownership to be between 2% and 4% of the pro forma combined company.  However, the exact percentage may be different and will reflect the number of Merger Shares calculated in accordance with the Merger Agreement based on Horizon Kinetics&#8217; financial position at closing.</em>&#8221; Meanwhile, HK members will be receiving the substantial majority of the combined company&#8217;s shares (between 96% and 98%) in exchange for their ownership interests in Horizon Kinetics. The 8K does not say who will be Chairman or CEO, but in all likelihood it&#8217;s going to be Stahl and/or Bregman.</p><p>According to Stahl, the deal is expected to close around April 30, 2024.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>I&#8217;m expecting, but don&#8217;t hold me to it, this deal to close sometime around the end of April. Let&#8217;s say, with fortune, April 30th.</em>&#8221; ~~~ Murray Stahl, FRMO FY2024Q2 conference call (<a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2024_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2024_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a>)</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Skl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f204fc-ab0c-494c-8931-479bf68da871_350x196.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Skl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f204fc-ab0c-494c-8931-479bf68da871_350x196.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Skl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f204fc-ab0c-494c-8931-479bf68da871_350x196.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Skl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f204fc-ab0c-494c-8931-479bf68da871_350x196.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Skl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f204fc-ab0c-494c-8931-479bf68da871_350x196.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Skl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f204fc-ab0c-494c-8931-479bf68da871_350x196.gif" width="634" height="355.04" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/35f204fc-ab0c-494c-8931-479bf68da871_350x196.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:196,&quot;width&quot;:350,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:634,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Just a hermit crab (Pagurus prideaux) slowly... - Marine Science in a Drop&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Just a hermit crab (Pagurus prideaux) slowly... - Marine Science in a Drop" title="Just a hermit crab (Pagurus prideaux) slowly... - Marine Science in a Drop" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Skl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f204fc-ab0c-494c-8931-479bf68da871_350x196.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Skl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f204fc-ab0c-494c-8931-479bf68da871_350x196.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Skl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f204fc-ab0c-494c-8931-479bf68da871_350x196.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4Skl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F35f204fc-ab0c-494c-8931-479bf68da871_350x196.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>Pictured above: HK moving from the private market into the emptied out husk of SLGD; source: <a href="https://todropscience.tumblr.com/post/109995319497/just-a-hermit-crab-pagurus-prideaux-slowly">https://todropscience.tumblr.com/post/109995319497/just-a-hermit-crab-pagurus-prideaux-slowly</a></em>)</p><h3>Why they did it</h3><p>As a bit of foreshadowing to my ambivalent/dour opinion on the spread &#8212;and apparent &#8220;opportunity&#8221; therein&#8212; between the current stock price and the post-merger &#8220;IPO&#8221; target price, note that this merger is not being done with any explicit eye to value creation or HK being able to capture some kind of profitable opportunity by having the company be public, but rather to provide some exit liquidity for some of their long-time owners.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Why did we decide to do it? There are two kinds of shareholders at Horizon Kinetics. There are ones who are active in the business&#8212;you&#8217;re talking to one right now. I&#8217;m not going anywhere, I&#8217;m not selling any shares. As far as I know, I&#8217;m in good health, and I like what I&#8217;m doing. I&#8217;m going to keep doing it. So, everything is fine. <strong>I&#8217;m not looking for any liquidity. I don&#8217;t need any liquidity, thank goodness. But there are people who own shares that are not active in the business. They were just investors in the beginning, and they got to a certain age, and they may have some need of liquidity, so it&#8217;s not fair to keep them locked up</strong>. So, there are two options. Option number one is, we could have bought their shares, in which case, we would have a negotiated price. We&#8217;re the insiders, and we&#8217;re giving them a price, which from their point of view may or may not be fair. You can see that might be problematic. It might even be a conflict of interest if we were to quote a price. The other possibility is, the market will determine a price. If they want to sell, they can sell. If they don&#8217;t want to sell, they don&#8217;t have to sell. Maybe they even want to buy more. We&#8217;re going to see what happens.</em>&#8221; ~~~ HK founder Murray Stahl, <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2024_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2024_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hxu_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2da056c2-d876-46a2-919e-3146b0a2032a_493x614.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hxu_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2da056c2-d876-46a2-919e-3146b0a2032a_493x614.png 424w, 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We can do this because the calculation for the number of new shares that will be issued in the merger is provided in the merger agreement <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WKvq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb735f95f-6504-4a41-996e-c75d7da0791e_1900x481.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WKvq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb735f95f-6504-4a41-996e-c75d7da0791e_1900x481.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/slgd-ex2_1.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/slgd-ex2_1.htm</a></em>)</p><p>The number of shares to be created in the merger are such that, based on the calculation of the HK&#8217;s total &#8220;value&#8221;, the value per share for the newly created shares will (theoretically) be $1.25. (Of course, the market appears to think that the value of HK should be calculated differently to how the merger agreement is planning to do it and is the main subject of this post, which I will get to in a bit).</p><p>(Theoretical stock price = Value/Share ==&gt; Final Consideration # of shares = Value / Target price).</p><h1>Theoretical &#8220;IPO&#8221; value of SLGD/HK</h1><p>The value of HK for the Final Consideration of the merger is based on two components: HK&#8217;s NAV (net assets owned by HK on their balance sheet) and the value of HK&#8217;s &#8220;operating business&#8221;, which is the asset management business. (<em>Starting from this point, when I&#8217;m referring to HK&#8217;s operating asset management business, I&#8217;ll be using HKAM for short</em>).</p><h2>HKAM</h2><p>The value of HKAM, per the merger doc, will be calculated thusly: &#8220;<em>Under the Merger Agreement, the value of the Horizon Kinetics operating business is <strong>(i) stipulated to be $200 million if and only if Horizon Kinetics&#8217; regulatory assets under management (&#8220;AUM&#8221;) are between $6 billion and $8 billion, and (ii) otherwise is calculated by multiplying AUM by a factor of 0.03.</strong></em>&#8221; We can get a good idea of what HK&#8217;s current AUM might be right now using their recent SEC Form ADV Firm Brochure, published March 28, 2024 (<a href="https://files.adviserinfo.sec.gov/IAPD/Content/Common/crd_iapd_Brochure.aspx?BRCHR_VRSN_ID=902164">https://files.adviserinfo.sec.gov/IAPD/Content/Common/crd_iapd_Brochure.aspx?BRCHR_VRSN_ID=902164</a>), which states: &#8220;<em><strong>As of December 31. 2023, client assets managed by HKAM totaled approximately $6,503 million [ie. $6.5 billion]</strong>; discretionary assets totaled $6,297 million and non-discretionary assets totaled $207 million.</em>&#8221; </p><p>This 3%-of-AUM heuristic is something I&#8217;ve seen before when it comes to valuing asset management businesses and has been mentioned by Stahl in previous FRMO conference calls <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a>, so it shouldn&#8217;t be a surprise to see HK determining HKAM&#8217;s value in this way.</p><p>That was in December of 2023, we&#8217;re about 1/4 into 2024 now and maybe there&#8217;s been some change. One thing to note is that we can kinda guess with high confidence the overall makeup of HK&#8217;s AUM using their public 13F/D disclosures <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a>. From this, we can see that the main drivers of HK&#8217;s AUM is going to be the performance of TPL and GBTC (and to a lesser extent, WPM, CACI, ICE, and FNV), both of which are up year-to-date and thus we can be confident the AUM is still above $6bn (though probably less than $8bn) <strong>resulting in a value attribution of around $200MM ($6.5bn*0.03=$195MM) to HKAM by the method of the merger doc (</strong>well actually, anything between $6bn and $8bn AUM results in HKAM getting pinned to exactly $200MM by the agreement rules, but in this case the difference in tiny<strong>).</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VR11!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94e38f61-2394-4123-b83a-894e88e0c23c_1218x310.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>  (<em><a href="https://fintel.io/i/horizon-kinetics-asset-management">https://fintel.io/i/horizon-kinetics-asset-management</a>; HKAM&#8217;s public investments were composed of 44% TPL and 11% GBTC as of December 31, 2023; YTD, TPL is up by around 10% and GBTC by 60% for a total YTD percentage point contribution of (0.44*0.10)+(0.11*0.60)=11pps (which is actually nearly identical to the YTD return of HKAM&#8217;s headline Kinetics Paradigm Fund </em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a><em>, which can give one a sense of how much these two investments drive returns for HK overall); we would have needed around 2x that return YTD in order to get $6.5bn up past $8bn</em>)</p><h2>HK NAV</h2><p>********** UPDATE 20240807: Scott&#8217;s Liquid Gold is now officially Horizon Kinetics Holding Corporation (HKHC) ($SLGDD) with the merger and 1-for-20 reverse split officially completed on Aug 1 2024. The associated 8K filing (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017024092922/0000950170-24-092922-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017024092922/0000950170-24-092922-index.htm</a>) also includes a breakdown of consolidated financials for HK LLC.</p><p>As of March 31, 2024, total equity was $252,598,000 (they report their estimated NAV at the end of the filing as a slightly lesser $249,606,000, which I assume has something to do with excluding intangibles and goodwill, though I&#8217;m not sure). The total consolidated equity of the combined business as of March 31, 2024 (which includes Kinetics Common and Kinetics Holdings) was $296,078,000 (see &#8220;UNAUDITED PRO FORMA CONDENSED COMBINED FINANCIAL INFORMATION&#8221;). You can find the breakdown of the investments in the footnotes of the filing. (<em>Be sure to check the associated date for the breakdown values as there are duplicate footnotes because the filing includes numbers for annual 2022 and 2023 results as well as first-three-months of 2024 results, so make sure you&#8217;re looking at the right time period</em>).</p><p>The largest contributor to HK&#8217;s assets is their &#8220;investments in proprietary funds&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FQcv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e6c768a-41c7-4156-83fb-279704860c81_1398x238.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FQcv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e6c768a-41c7-4156-83fb-279704860c81_1398x238.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FQcv!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e6c768a-41c7-4156-83fb-279704860c81_1398x238.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FQcv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e6c768a-41c7-4156-83fb-279704860c81_1398x238.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FQcv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e6c768a-41c7-4156-83fb-279704860c81_1398x238.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FQcv!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e6c768a-41c7-4156-83fb-279704860c81_1398x238.png" width="1200" height="204.29184549356222" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2e6c768a-41c7-4156-83fb-279704860c81_1398x238.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:238,&quot;width&quot;:1398,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:51488,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FQcv!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e6c768a-41c7-4156-83fb-279704860c81_1398x238.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FQcv!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e6c768a-41c7-4156-83fb-279704860c81_1398x238.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FQcv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e6c768a-41c7-4156-83fb-279704860c81_1398x238.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FQcv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e6c768a-41c7-4156-83fb-279704860c81_1398x238.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>While they never describe what these various funds do within the document itself, you can find a bit more information on them in an old post on FRMO I made a while back &#8212;as they have many of these LP investments in common. See the <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/44213980/hk-lp-investments">section link here</a> (try not to scroll in your browser for a few seconds once you get transferred by the link, so the web browser can jump to the right section within the post). </p><p>For some info on the Horizon Kinetics Equity Opportunities Fund (which FRMO does not own a stake in), you can see the attached docs on this old 2018 letter from Santa Monica Partners&#8217; Lawrence Goldstein: <a href="https://irp.cdn-website.com/cfd0d660/files/uploaded/ltp-2018-q1.pdf">https://irp.cdn-website.com/cfd0d660/files/uploaded/ltp-2018-q1.pdf</a></p><p>As for the value of the new company after the 1-for-20, while the <em>dollar price</em> has changed, I maintain that the price seems to imply a level of expected future growth for HKAM that seems unfounded given their historical performance as I described in later sections of this existing post.</p><p>**********</p><p>********** UPDATE 20240504: So the merger proxy was recently published (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017024052083/0000950170-24-052083-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017024052083/0000950170-24-052083-index.htm</a>, see &#8220;UNAUDITED PRO FORMA CONDENSED COMBINED FINANCIAL INFORMATION&#8221;) and we&#8217;re able to see the total NAV of HK, factoring in the contribution of HK&#8217;s merged &#8220;Member Corporations&#8221; less the equity of SLGD, at around $243,669,000 &#8212;a good bit below my initial estimate of ~$300MM, even before I considered the possible additional contribution of the member corporations. **********</p><p>********** UPDATE 20240406: </p><p><em>Actually, there&#8217;s an easier and more current way to get HK&#8217;s approximate NAV.</em></p><p><em>FRMO owns a 4.95% stake in HK LLC. FRMO records their ownership stake on their balance sheet as the proportionate book value of HK LLC.</em></p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;<strong>But right now, I think the pro-rata ownership is something like either 4.93% or 4.95%. If you take that FRMO balance sheet figure of, let's call it, $14.5 million to make it easy, and you divide it by .0495, just to approximate, that's $292 million. That would be the Horizon Kinetics balance book value, if you wanted to make that calculation.</strong> HK doesn&#8217;t have $292 million in cash and hard assets, since there's some goodwill there, but it&#8217;s got a lot. I'm not disclosing the number we have right now, but as I said, there's not a lot of goodwill there, especially not for an investment management company.&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">Murray Stahl</a> (note this these particular numbers are from Jan 2023)</em></p></blockquote><p><em>As of FRMO&#8217;s most recent quarterly report, which contains numbers <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/10q/FRMO_Corp_Q2_2024.pdf">as of Nov 30, 2023</a>, that calculation gives an HK LLC book value of ($15,079,831/0.0495=)$304,643,050.51; not too far off from the low end of the merger doc Final Consideration example table, only requiring a ((325000000/304643050.51)&#8722;1=)~7% increase from that level get to the very lowest example number (which is about the same as the return on HK&#8217;s headline Kinetics Paradigm Fund since that time to today), so $325MM seems like a reasonable base NAV estimate for HK LLC.</em></p><div 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d5rh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e50197c-23b4-4a07-9291-d081566f09cf_745x493.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d5rh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e50197c-23b4-4a07-9291-d081566f09cf_745x493.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!d5rh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0e50197c-23b4-4a07-9291-d081566f09cf_745x493.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>Also note that this does not take into account the NAV that could be included by the consolidation of HK LLC&#8217;s &#8220;member corporations&#8221; in the merger&#8217;s pre-closing restructuring (something pointed out to me by the author of </em><a href="https://fundamentalfinanceplaybook.com/">https://fundamentalfinanceplaybook.com/</a><em>):</em></p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;The Company shall enter into a merger agreement or agreements with one or more of its members that are corporations for U.S. federal and applicable state and local Income Tax purposes, including one or more of Horizon Common, Kinetics Common and Kinetics Holdings (collectively, the &#8220;<strong>Member Corporations</strong>&#8221;), pursuant to which the Member Corporations participating in such merger transaction shall be merged with and into the Company, with the Company being the surviving corporation of such mergers and the shareholders of such Member Corporations receiving membership interests in the Company in exchange for their shares of stock in such Member Corporations.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/slgd-ex2_1.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/slgd-ex2_1.htm</a></p></blockquote><p><em>I played around with this idea a bit and just added to the base HK LLC NAV estimate the share counts (adjusted for the recent 1-to-3 split) of TPL &#8220;Amount of Securities Beneficially Owned&#8221; from Horizon Common Inc, Kinetics Advisers LLC, and Kinetics Asset Management LLC based on Form 4 filings by <a href="https://www.sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=1056823">HKAM</a> and <a href="https://www.sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=1519418">HK LLC</a>, plus all of Winland Holdings CEO Matt Houk&#8217;s (an HK employee) 14% ownership stake in the company, as well as *assuming* a similar stake in <a href="https://www.consensusmining.com/">CMSC</a> as FRMO (I recall as a 1% stake). This only gives an 8% increase in NAV from $325MM to around $350MM, but there is a lot of unknowns once one starts looking into this (eg. how much of HK Hard Assets I and II are collectively owned by these sister companies that are not counted in the direct beneficial ownership amounts, etc), so there&#8217;s quite a bit up in the air on this; I&#8217;m just trying to form a base of what&#8217;s *known* here.</em></p><p>**********</p><p>How can we come up with a reasonable value for HK&#8217;s NAV? Well, as I mentioned, the other public Stahl vehicle FRMO Corp has a material equity stake in HK LLC and has been providing summarized financials for the company in their annual reports since 2020 <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a>. I&#8217;ve summarized those reported numbers here:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e2cg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffee4aee1-c349-4b24-abd5-ee43f3119780_947x214.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e2cg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffee4aee1-c349-4b24-abd5-ee43f3119780_947x214.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e2cg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffee4aee1-c349-4b24-abd5-ee43f3119780_947x214.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e2cg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffee4aee1-c349-4b24-abd5-ee43f3119780_947x214.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e2cg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffee4aee1-c349-4b24-abd5-ee43f3119780_947x214.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e2cg!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffee4aee1-c349-4b24-abd5-ee43f3119780_947x214.png" width="1200" height="271.17212249208023" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fee4aee1-c349-4b24-abd5-ee43f3119780_947x214.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:214,&quot;width&quot;:947,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:79288,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e2cg!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffee4aee1-c349-4b24-abd5-ee43f3119780_947x214.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e2cg!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffee4aee1-c349-4b24-abd5-ee43f3119780_947x214.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e2cg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffee4aee1-c349-4b24-abd5-ee43f3119780_947x214.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e2cg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffee4aee1-c349-4b24-abd5-ee43f3119780_947x214.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Note that these numbers are reported for the period ending March 31 of that year from the previous year. A lot has happened since March 2023, so how can we guess HK&#8217;s <em>current</em> NAV? Well, the Final Consideration Calculation in the merger doc provides a range of possible NAV amounts as an example for what the Final Consideration share count might be. Let&#8217;s look at the low end of the range:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyig!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46710f55-685a-4236-9bf7-99241b80896f_1897x288.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyig!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46710f55-685a-4236-9bf7-99241b80896f_1897x288.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyig!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46710f55-685a-4236-9bf7-99241b80896f_1897x288.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyig!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46710f55-685a-4236-9bf7-99241b80896f_1897x288.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyig!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46710f55-685a-4236-9bf7-99241b80896f_1897x288.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyig!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46710f55-685a-4236-9bf7-99241b80896f_1897x288.png" width="1200" height="182.14285714285714" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/46710f55-685a-4236-9bf7-99241b80896f_1897x288.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:221,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:66139,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyig!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46710f55-685a-4236-9bf7-99241b80896f_1897x288.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyig!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46710f55-685a-4236-9bf7-99241b80896f_1897x288.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyig!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46710f55-685a-4236-9bf7-99241b80896f_1897x288.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kyig!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F46710f55-685a-4236-9bf7-99241b80896f_1897x288.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I don&#8217;t think they provided this particular range in their example just by random chance, especially given that the HKAM value (according to the valuation method of the merger docs) used in this example table is based on realistic estimates of HK&#8217;s AUM, and subsequent &#8220;value&#8221;, that we do have recent data for. How much would HK&#8217;s NAV of $192MM in March 2023 need to rise by April of 2024, this year, in order to get up to at least that low end of the range? That would be an increase of ($325MM/$192MM - 1 =) 70% from March 2023, no small feat. However, Stahl and HK have been one of the earliest institutional investors in the Bitcoin space, starting mining operations and buying their first shares of GBTC in around 2015, and that gives these NAV estimates (that are greatly above the March 2023 NAV) an air of plausibility given how Bitcoin has done since that time to today. </p><p>At the time of my writing this (April 3, 2024), TPL is up by 3% from March 31, 2023 and GBTC is up 258%. Iff we <em>assume</em> that HK&#8217;s private balance sheet was basically the same as it&#8217;s public investments at the time (I&#8217;m guessing that a lot of their assets are investments in their own HKAM&#8217;s own products as well as some private/yet-to-be public assets Stahl has discussed in the past), we could use the HKAM public ownership filings or FRMO&#8217;s own reported % of TPL on their books to guess at what ballpark amounts of GBTC HK would need to have been holding in order to get near +70% in April 2024 from March 2023 on just the strength of these two investments. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z1Jc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F504ef0d4-9163-42ae-99b6-575418781a0c_644x211.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z1Jc!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F504ef0d4-9163-42ae-99b6-575418781a0c_644x211.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z1Jc!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F504ef0d4-9163-42ae-99b6-575418781a0c_644x211.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z1Jc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F504ef0d4-9163-42ae-99b6-575418781a0c_644x211.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z1Jc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F504ef0d4-9163-42ae-99b6-575418781a0c_644x211.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z1Jc!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F504ef0d4-9163-42ae-99b6-575418781a0c_644x211.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z1Jc!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F504ef0d4-9163-42ae-99b6-575418781a0c_644x211.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z1Jc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F504ef0d4-9163-42ae-99b6-575418781a0c_644x211.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z1Jc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F504ef0d4-9163-42ae-99b6-575418781a0c_644x211.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>FRMO FY2023 annual report, <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/10k/FRMO_Annual_Report_2023.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/10k/FRMO_Annual_Report_2023.pdf</a>; For those unfamiliar with FRMO, &#8220;Investment A&#8221; is TPL and &#8220;Investment B&#8221; is GBTC; if you don&#8217;t believe me see &#8220;Questioner 8&#8221; here: <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></em>)</p><p>I set up the problem like this:</p><p>(0.03*X)+(2.58*Y)= 0.70, X = 0.466, solve for Y ==&gt; Y = 27%.</p><p>That&#8217;s quite a bit of GBTC, but not an amount that FRMO has not held, itself, at past points in its history, so it&#8217;s not impossible to think that HK would have made that kind of allocation for themselves during the crypto winter or in any case been comfortable holding that level of BTC exposure at the time. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R9WB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F455f5687-0f05-4ae4-99aa-8aa9f99ac73b_569x122.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R9WB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F455f5687-0f05-4ae4-99aa-8aa9f99ac73b_569x122.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R9WB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F455f5687-0f05-4ae4-99aa-8aa9f99ac73b_569x122.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R9WB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F455f5687-0f05-4ae4-99aa-8aa9f99ac73b_569x122.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R9WB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F455f5687-0f05-4ae4-99aa-8aa9f99ac73b_569x122.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R9WB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F455f5687-0f05-4ae4-99aa-8aa9f99ac73b_569x122.png" width="675" height="144.72759226713532" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/455f5687-0f05-4ae4-99aa-8aa9f99ac73b_569x122.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:122,&quot;width&quot;:569,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:675,&quot;bytes&quot;:22457,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R9WB!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F455f5687-0f05-4ae4-99aa-8aa9f99ac73b_569x122.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R9WB!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F455f5687-0f05-4ae4-99aa-8aa9f99ac73b_569x122.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R9WB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F455f5687-0f05-4ae4-99aa-8aa9f99ac73b_569x122.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R9WB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F455f5687-0f05-4ae4-99aa-8aa9f99ac73b_569x122.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/10q/FRMO_Corp_Q3_2021.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/10q/FRMO_Corp_Q3_2021.pdf</a>)</em></p><p>I think that assuming a BTC/GBTC allocation materially beyond that is a lot less believable (and certainly has no precedent that I&#8217;ve seen).</p><p><em>Assuming</em> that the Final Consideration Calculation table&#8217;s NAV range was not completely chosen at random, my takeaway here is that HK&#8217;s current NAV is likely on the very lowest end of the provided range. <strong>So, let&#8217;s pin it at that lowest $325MM value as a reasonable, yet conservative, estimate</strong>.</p><p>(<em>Of course this is ultimately speculation and we will see HK&#8217;s true balance sheet and asset makeup once the merger is completed, but I think this estimate is not based on anything too crazy</em>).</p><p>.</p><p>Combining our educated guess as to HK&#8217;s NAV with HKAM&#8217;s theoretical value <em>according to the merger agreement&#8217;s method of valuation</em>, we get a combined value of $525MM.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pzFM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F608240f8-2ed8-4856-85f9-6702e2edbb2e_608x209.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pzFM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F608240f8-2ed8-4856-85f9-6702e2edbb2e_608x209.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pzFM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F608240f8-2ed8-4856-85f9-6702e2edbb2e_608x209.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pzFM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F608240f8-2ed8-4856-85f9-6702e2edbb2e_608x209.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pzFM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F608240f8-2ed8-4856-85f9-6702e2edbb2e_608x209.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pzFM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F608240f8-2ed8-4856-85f9-6702e2edbb2e_608x209.png" width="608" height="209" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/608240f8-2ed8-4856-85f9-6702e2edbb2e_608x209.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:209,&quot;width&quot;:608,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:35583,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pzFM!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F608240f8-2ed8-4856-85f9-6702e2edbb2e_608x209.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pzFM!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F608240f8-2ed8-4856-85f9-6702e2edbb2e_608x209.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pzFM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F608240f8-2ed8-4856-85f9-6702e2edbb2e_608x209.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pzFM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F608240f8-2ed8-4856-85f9-6702e2edbb2e_608x209.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Using this estimate for what the HK NAV and HKAM valuation will be determined to be at the time of the Final Consideration, we can then use the Final Consideration calculation to determine the number of shares that will be created; we divide the total estimated HK company value by 1.25. &#8220;<em>Final Consideration shall be the quotient obtained by dividing Total Company Value by 1.25; provided, however, that the maximum Final Consideration under the Agreement shall be 637,000,000 shares of Parent Common Stock.</em>&#8221;  </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QB6l!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feaea3f72-bff0-4dd0-810a-d71b0b1c1f45_1815x479.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QB6l!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feaea3f72-bff0-4dd0-810a-d71b0b1c1f45_1815x479.png 424w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>$525MM/1.25 = 420,000,000 shares</p><p>Combine this with the existing 13,006,162  S/O of SLGD (per their most recent 10K, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017024036394/0000950170-24-036394-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017024036394/0000950170-24-036394-index.htm</a>) and we can get a total expected number of shares, post-merger, as well as a total company value when adding the expected/theoretical HK total value to the value of SLGD&#8217;s existing line of business (I do this by simply taking the SLGD marketcap pre-merger-announcement and <em>assuming</em> that that is fair value for the stock). Take that combined SLGD+HK company value and divide it by the post-merger expected S/O and we can see what the final share price should be; $1.22/sh. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a8AN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa74788a9-925f-4a23-a1e3-793941b81c14_608x171.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a8AN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa74788a9-925f-4a23-a1e3-793941b81c14_608x171.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a8AN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa74788a9-925f-4a23-a1e3-793941b81c14_608x171.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a8AN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa74788a9-925f-4a23-a1e3-793941b81c14_608x171.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a8AN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa74788a9-925f-4a23-a1e3-793941b81c14_608x171.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a8AN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa74788a9-925f-4a23-a1e3-793941b81c14_608x171.png" width="608" height="171" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a74788a9-925f-4a23-a1e3-793941b81c14_608x171.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:171,&quot;width&quot;:608,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:45566,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a8AN!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa74788a9-925f-4a23-a1e3-793941b81c14_608x171.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a8AN!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa74788a9-925f-4a23-a1e3-793941b81c14_608x171.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a8AN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa74788a9-925f-4a23-a1e3-793941b81c14_608x171.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a8AN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa74788a9-925f-4a23-a1e3-793941b81c14_608x171.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>However, what we see in reality is that the collective mind of the market (or the market for these particular microcap OTC SLGD shares, to be more exact) is valuing SLGD existing shares at a much lower price than that ($0.86/sh). The question then is: Is this huge discount to the targeted &#8220;IPO&#8221; price actually a reasonable evaluation of HK&#8217;s &#8220;value&#8221; or is this price being overly pessimistic and thus creating an opportunity to capture a hefty spread when the deal concludes?</p><h1>Price implied expectations (PIE) for HK&#8217;s value, post-merger</h1><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;It is not enough to think about difficult problems one way. You need to think about them forwards and backward. Inversion often forces you to uncover hidden beliefs about the problem you are trying to solve. &#8220;Indeed,&#8221; says Munger, &#8220;many problems can&#8217;t be solved forward.</em>&#8221; ~~~ &#8220;<em>Inversion and The Power of Avoiding Stupidity</em>&#8221;, <a href="https://fs.blog/inversion/">https://fs.blog/inversion/</a></p></blockquote><p>Now, I&#8217;ve mentioned a bit about how great I think Stahl is as an investment thinker, how I&#8217;ve been a longtime investor in other companies he runs, and have just shown what a significant spread that SLGD shares are trading at relative to the targeted reverse merger &#8220;IPO&#8221; price. So why am I mostly indifferent on the stock (aside from the fact that I already have significant exposure to Stahl&#8217;s investing ideas through material positions in other Stahl/HK vehicles)? Why do I think that the current price and spread may actually be justified?</p><p>We can see the price implied expectation (PIE) value that the market is assigning to HK LLC by taking the <em>current existing</em> share price multiplied by the expected post-merger S/O and netting out the value of SLGD&#8217;s existing business (again, <em>assuming</em> that the marketcap pre-merger-announcement was fairly valuing that business). We can also the subtract the estimated value of HK&#8217;s NAV to get just the market&#8217;s price-implied-expectation value of HKAM ($42.2MM or contributing $0.10/sh to SLGD). In the table below, I&#8217;ve also provided some ratios of HKAM&#8217;s implied value vs &#8220;known&#8221; financials such as HK&#8217;s most recently reported AUM, revenues, and earnings (the latter two as summarized in FRMO&#8217;s annual reports, which here report HK&#8217;s numbers as they existed in March 31, 2023).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dpiB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8f71b7e3-638d-4a61-a7d9-129d0179da76_605x445.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dpiB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8f71b7e3-638d-4a61-a7d9-129d0179da76_605x445.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dpiB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8f71b7e3-638d-4a61-a7d9-129d0179da76_605x445.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dpiB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8f71b7e3-638d-4a61-a7d9-129d0179da76_605x445.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dpiB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8f71b7e3-638d-4a61-a7d9-129d0179da76_605x445.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dpiB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8f71b7e3-638d-4a61-a7d9-129d0179da76_605x445.png" width="605" height="445" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/8f71b7e3-638d-4a61-a7d9-129d0179da76_605x445.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:445,&quot;width&quot;:605,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:118884,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dpiB!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8f71b7e3-638d-4a61-a7d9-129d0179da76_605x445.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dpiB!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8f71b7e3-638d-4a61-a7d9-129d0179da76_605x445.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dpiB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8f71b7e3-638d-4a61-a7d9-129d0179da76_605x445.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dpiB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8f71b7e3-638d-4a61-a7d9-129d0179da76_605x445.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The question then is: Is this valuation of HKAM justified? What are some reasonable lenses through which one would have to be looking at HKAM in order to assign this value that is at such disagreement with the way that the merger agreement would like to think of its value?</p><h2>% of AUM</h2><p>Note that HKAM&#8217;s fees on their investment products range from just 0.85% AUM for their ETFs to 1.25% on their mutual funds (see &#8220;Fees and Compensation&#8221;, <a href="https://files.adviserinfo.sec.gov/IAPD/Content/Common/crd_iapd_Brochure.aspx?BRCHR_VRSN_ID=902164">https://files.adviserinfo.sec.gov/IAPD/Content/Common/crd_iapd_Brochure.aspx?BRCHR_VRSN_ID=902164</a>). At an assumed average realized fee of 1% of AUM across their products, valuing HKAM at 3% of AUM is the same as valuing it at 3x revenue.</p><p>From the table, we see that the price implied value of HKAM vs our known AUM figure is 0.65% of AUM, not 3% as is planned to be used in the merger Final Consideration calculation for HKAM&#8217;s value. Is 0.65% an unreasonably low rate at which to capitalize the business against their AUM?</p><p>I don&#8217;t really know. I&#8217;ll say this: There are several problems with simply taking a 3%-of-AUM heuristic and applying it to every asset manager we come across. You can read more about this issue here: <a href="https://mercercapital.com/riavaluationinsights/practice-management/valuation-of-asset-management-firms/">https://mercercapital.com/riavaluationinsights/practice-management/valuation-of-asset-management-firms/</a>; <a href="https://mercercapital.com/riavaluationinsights/practice-management/asset-manager-valuation-and-rules-of-thumb/">https://mercercapital.com/riavaluationinsights/practice-management/asset-manager-valuation-and-rules-of-thumb/</a>; <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/evolution-rule-based-valuation-metrics-why-still-dont-brooks">https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/evolution-rule-based-valuation-metrics-why-still-dont-brooks</a></p><p>We can play around with different %s-of-AUM valuations here:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oQjx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa3818-7a96-4d19-a8e8-008301251b4c_1144x380.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oQjx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa3818-7a96-4d19-a8e8-008301251b4c_1144x380.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oQjx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa3818-7a96-4d19-a8e8-008301251b4c_1144x380.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oQjx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa3818-7a96-4d19-a8e8-008301251b4c_1144x380.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oQjx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa3818-7a96-4d19-a8e8-008301251b4c_1144x380.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oQjx!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa3818-7a96-4d19-a8e8-008301251b4c_1144x380.png" width="1200" height="398.6013986013986" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oQjx!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa3818-7a96-4d19-a8e8-008301251b4c_1144x380.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oQjx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa3818-7a96-4d19-a8e8-008301251b4c_1144x380.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oQjx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0aa3818-7a96-4d19-a8e8-008301251b4c_1144x380.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>Note that, while even just at 1%-of-AUM we can still get great returns iff HK&#8217;s NAV is valued above 1.2x, I&#8217;d just note that people I&#8217;ve talked to who contacted HK about what that NAV is &#8212;while not being given a specific value&#8212; have been told that the majority of those assets are &#8220;liquid&#8221; assets, which I take to mean &#8220;public&#8221;, which I&#8217;d guess mostly mirror their portfolio investments and are mostly TPL (via another private HK LP, HK Hard Assets and Hard Assets II which I won&#8217;t get into) as well as GBTC and BTC owned on HK&#8217;s own account, in addition to smaller holdings like MIH/MIAX, HM Tech, CMSC, and Diamond Standard. In fact, I&#8217;d bet a lot of HK&#8217;s NAV are investments in their own produtcs. In any case, given that these assets would be &#8212;on the whole&#8212; nothing specific to HK and able to be bought on the market by anyone, I think the conservative approach of sticking with a 1x multiple on NAV is not overly harsh. Others may disagree, but we really have zero information on this element, so not much to really speak on here, IMO.</em>)</p><p>Ultimately, the value of a business is much more closely tied to its earnings, the growth prospects thereof, and discount rate(s) against which ones weighs those earnings, rather than any multiple on revenues that bakes in such assumptions (in addition to assumptions on profit margins) in a way that is not made explicit, yet nonetheless exists under the surface. </p><p>Given all of the information available on HKAM&#8217;s underlying financials from SLGD&#8217;s public filings on the merger (that being no information at all), at this point I&#8217;d think there wasn&#8217;t much else to go on for valuing the business and &#8212;in the absence of any other information&#8212; would just go with the 3% rule of thumb that HK seems to think was a fine valuation method to use in the merger agreement.</p><p>However, remember that FRMO has annual reports going back to 2009, a revenue interest in HK as well as an equity stake that &#8212;as we&#8217;ve seen in prior sections&#8212; has given them reason to report summarized financial results for HK alongside their own annual results, since 2020. We can use these clues to derive some earnings and longterm growth information about HK that we wouldn&#8217;t otherwise have any insight into.</p><h2>Perpetual growth model</h2><p>OK, yes, HK is kinda &#8220;trapped&#8221; in TPL (<a href="https://www.morningstar.com/funds/fund-shop-bets-ranch-one-stock">https://www.morningstar.com/funds/fund-shop-bets-ranch-one-stock</a>); it&#8217;s an capex-light 100-bagger and there are worse stocks one could be concentrated and stuck in. Yes, Stahl is the main brain of the whole operation, is legally a senior citizen now, and presents a notable key-man risk; I&#8217;d assuage those worried about this by directing them to the article here (<a href="https://www.mutualfundobserver.com/2023/08/the-unfortunate-manager-the-ill-timed-bus-and-you/">https://www.mutualfundobserver.com/2023/08/the-unfortunate-manager-the-ill-timed-bus-and-you/)</a>. Yes, HK is &#8220;IPO&#8217;ing&#8221; on the much less liquid OTC Markets <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a>. In any case, the valuation multiples that the market price is implying just <em>seem</em> way too cheap at first glance, but I guess the response then is, &#8220;Compared to what, exactly?&#8221;...</p><p>.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>The cost of a thing is the amount of what I will call life which is required to be exchanged for it, immediately or in the long run.</em>&#8221; ~~~ Henry David Thoreau, &#8220;Walden&#8221;</p></blockquote><blockquote><p> &#8220;<em>The concept of opportunity cost is overlooked. In the real world, your opportunity costs are what you want to base your decisions on. [&#8230;] In life, if opportunity A is better than B, and you have only one opportunity, you do A. There&#8217;s no one-size-fits-all.</em>&#8221; ~~~ Charlie Munger, <a href="https://25iq.com/2015/11/21/why-and-how-do-munger-and-buffett-discount-the-future-cash-flows-at-the-30-year-u-s-treasury-rate/">https://25iq.com/2015/11/21/why-and-how-do-munger-and-buffett-discount-the-future-cash-flows-at-the-30-year-u-s-treasury-rate/</a>; <a href="https://www.valueinvestingworld.com/2014/05/charlie-munger-on-opportunity-costs.html">https://www.valueinvestingworld.com/2014/05/charlie-munger-on-opportunity-costs.html</a></p></blockquote><p>Investors in the HKAM business are effectively buying a stake in HKAM&#8217;s stock portfolio + asset management business that derives its fees from that portfolio. IMO, the stock portfolio&#8217;s expected returns represent a reasonable opportunity cost or benchmark return that the asset management business can be compared against. Using this as the discount rate to value HKAM as a business grounds it to tangible, observable returns which I think better reflects economic reality and opportunity cost <em>for their particular business</em> vs an abstract cost of capital estimate that we might have to use if the business were not as simple as HKAM&#8217;s is.</p><p>Here is the breakdown of HKAM&#8217;s investment portfolio as disclosed in their public 13F/D filings:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!coqq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16170536-2ba0-4683-ab40-329cf28ceed2_865x476.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!coqq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16170536-2ba0-4683-ab40-329cf28ceed2_865x476.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!coqq!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16170536-2ba0-4683-ab40-329cf28ceed2_865x476.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!coqq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16170536-2ba0-4683-ab40-329cf28ceed2_865x476.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!coqq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16170536-2ba0-4683-ab40-329cf28ceed2_865x476.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!coqq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16170536-2ba0-4683-ab40-329cf28ceed2_865x476.png" width="865" height="476" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/16170536-2ba0-4683-ab40-329cf28ceed2_865x476.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:476,&quot;width&quot;:865,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:112898,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!coqq!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16170536-2ba0-4683-ab40-329cf28ceed2_865x476.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!coqq!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16170536-2ba0-4683-ab40-329cf28ceed2_865x476.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!coqq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16170536-2ba0-4683-ab40-329cf28ceed2_865x476.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!coqq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F16170536-2ba0-4683-ab40-329cf28ceed2_865x476.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Around 42% of that energy exposure is solely from HKAM&#8217;s investment in TPL and all of that crypto exposure is from the GBTC Bitcoin ETF. I believe that, overall, the returns of TPL (and to a somewhat lesser extent, GBTC) are what ultimately drive HK&#8217;s AUM (and thus management revenues and earnings). IMO (and maybe I&#8217;m missing something) this is a bit obvious, but we can kinda check this by looking at how <em>correlated</em> this kind of investment portfolio&#8217;s total returns are to just TPL&#8217;s returns using the Kinetics Paradigm Fund (ticker: WWNPX) as a proxy.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RoOj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe86fa672-6540-4a40-9672-7bd79c06e1b0_484x468.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RoOj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe86fa672-6540-4a40-9672-7bd79c06e1b0_484x468.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RoOj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe86fa672-6540-4a40-9672-7bd79c06e1b0_484x468.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RoOj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe86fa672-6540-4a40-9672-7bd79c06e1b0_484x468.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RoOj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe86fa672-6540-4a40-9672-7bd79c06e1b0_484x468.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RoOj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe86fa672-6540-4a40-9672-7bd79c06e1b0_484x468.png" width="484" height="468" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RoOj!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe86fa672-6540-4a40-9672-7bd79c06e1b0_484x468.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RoOj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe86fa672-6540-4a40-9672-7bd79c06e1b0_484x468.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RoOj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe86fa672-6540-4a40-9672-7bd79c06e1b0_484x468.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nXrp!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d039812-7ff3-48af-96b2-ffd5c56351b7_1846x559.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nXrp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d039812-7ff3-48af-96b2-ffd5c56351b7_1846x559.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nXrp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5d039812-7ff3-48af-96b2-ffd5c56351b7_1846x559.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&amp;sl=3SKyD2LTfXslN3akezztoW">https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&amp;sl=3SKyD2LTfXslN3akezztoW</a></em>)</p><p>We see that one could get similar &#8212;in fact, better&#8212; results from just a fund of HK&#8217;s top two individual investments vs their headline mutual fund and that those results have really been mostly driven by TPL over the backtest period (results are similar for a 5yr period).</p><p>When I look at HKAM&#8217;s investments that ultimately drive their AUM (and thus revenues and earnings), I see the opportunity cost as being a self-bought &#8220;mini-ETF&#8221; of just TPL and GBTC in a similar relative weighting to HKAM&#8217;s overall investment portfolio. That is, just taking the capital that one would have used to invest in stock of HKAM and just going direct by using that money to buy the underlying top two, highly concentrated positions of the asset manager that drive their returns. (Doing this would certainly give you much more liquidity than investing in SLGD shares in the OTC market). What would the return be of such a self-made &#8220;ETF&#8221;?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KCdR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7218eb5-3e0d-49e6-be3a-208491573ee1_745x191.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KCdR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7218eb5-3e0d-49e6-be3a-208491573ee1_745x191.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KCdR!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7218eb5-3e0d-49e6-be3a-208491573ee1_745x191.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KCdR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7218eb5-3e0d-49e6-be3a-208491573ee1_745x191.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KCdR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7218eb5-3e0d-49e6-be3a-208491573ee1_745x191.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KCdR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7218eb5-3e0d-49e6-be3a-208491573ee1_745x191.png" width="745" height="191" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d7218eb5-3e0d-49e6-be3a-208491573ee1_745x191.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:191,&quot;width&quot;:745,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:47553,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KCdR!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7218eb5-3e0d-49e6-be3a-208491573ee1_745x191.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KCdR!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7218eb5-3e0d-49e6-be3a-208491573ee1_745x191.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KCdR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7218eb5-3e0d-49e6-be3a-208491573ee1_745x191.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KCdR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7218eb5-3e0d-49e6-be3a-208491573ee1_745x191.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>Note that I keep using 5% here as the GBTC initial weighting only because that was the weighting that HKAM had for in the Paradigm Fund in 2021, <a href="https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/$7-billion-investment-firm-horizon-kinetics-grows-bitcoin-exposure-2021-07-28">https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/$7-billion-investment-firm-horizon-kinetics-grows-bitcoin-exposure-2021-07-28</a>. I think it&#8217;s a good median point between the 1% they started with and the 15% they have now.</em>)</p><p>Something to note is that, in addition to being very large (especially for TPL), these allocations have not changed much since around 2019Q1 for TPL (when HK won their proxy battle to have the Texas Pacific Land Trust converted into a C-corp) and 2021 for GBTC <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a>. Furthermore, HKAM does not &#8212;by and large&#8212; take a very active approach to investing, but rather they are highly concentrated and tend to prefer to hold things for a very long time as can be evidenced by WWNPX&#8217;s tiny turnover ratio (less than 1%, <a href="https://kineticsfunds.com/funds/paradigm-fund/">https://kineticsfunds.com/funds/paradigm-fund/</a>), their Kinetics Fund&#8217;s stated investment philosophy (<a href="https://kineticsfunds.com/our-approach/investment-philosophy/">https://kineticsfunds.com/our-approach/investment-philosophy/</a>), and the number of times the phrase &#8220;long-term&#8221;, &#8220;long-view&#8221;, etc come up in the 2024 interview with Murray Stahl here (<a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/VII_Worth-The-Time_Stahl_Feb-2024.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/VII_Worth-The-Time_Stahl_Feb-2024.pdf</a>). The name of their firm itself, Horizon Kinetics, was based on the idea of putting their energies (<em>kinetics</em>) into long time <em>horizon</em> endeavors <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a>. Also, if you read any of the writings, interviews, etc from Stahl or HK, you&#8217;d get the strong sense that they don&#8217;t intend to sell their TPL or Bitcoin <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a> positions any time soon.</p><p>My point is that, <em>at the highest level </em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a>, it&#8217;s not that hard replicate and maintain the underlying investment fortunes of HKAM on one&#8217;s own. They&#8217;re not trading a &#8220;diversified&#8221; portfolio in and out of dozens of long and short special situations every quarter or using technical analysis and high-powered computers to trade in and out of thousands of stock every day/week. All you&#8217;d need to to is track 2 things every quarter to manually keep your &#8220;mini ETF&#8221; on track with HKAM&#8217;s main drivers: Their portfolio % of TPL and of GBTC (and you can do so using this: <a href="https://whalewisdom.com/filer/horizon-asset-management-inc-ny">https://whalewisdom.com/filer/horizon-asset-management-inc-ny</a>). Also recall that my backtest of TPL/GBTC/SPY did not do any re-balancing and beat WWNPX in that 3yr time period (and similarly if you change the period to a 5yr one). So, this POV is practical as well.</p><p>All this to say, when I think about the opportunity cost of buying HKAM, the business, I don&#8217;t think one would be unreasonable for comparing it to simply buying a self-constructed 90%/10%-TPL/GBTC &#8220;mini-ETF&#8221;. <strong>Of course, when we look at the long-term returns of such an &#8220;ETF&#8221;, we&#8217;ve seen that would imply an opportunity cost or discount rate of around 27%. Could this really be something that the market is applying to HKAM&#8217;s valuation?</strong></p><p>.</p><p>For reference, I&#8217;ll replicate again the HK financials summarized from the FRMO annual reports and include some additional information:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8h9w!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb2444c1-9dd8-41f3-87f0-6cebe54071b9_1256x278.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8h9w!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb2444c1-9dd8-41f3-87f0-6cebe54071b9_1256x278.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8h9w!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb2444c1-9dd8-41f3-87f0-6cebe54071b9_1256x278.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8h9w!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb2444c1-9dd8-41f3-87f0-6cebe54071b9_1256x278.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8h9w!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb2444c1-9dd8-41f3-87f0-6cebe54071b9_1256x278.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8h9w!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb2444c1-9dd8-41f3-87f0-6cebe54071b9_1256x278.png" width="1200" height="265.6050955414013" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bb2444c1-9dd8-41f3-87f0-6cebe54071b9_1256x278.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:278,&quot;width&quot;:1256,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:99645,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8h9w!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb2444c1-9dd8-41f3-87f0-6cebe54071b9_1256x278.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8h9w!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb2444c1-9dd8-41f3-87f0-6cebe54071b9_1256x278.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8h9w!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb2444c1-9dd8-41f3-87f0-6cebe54071b9_1256x278.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8h9w!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb2444c1-9dd8-41f3-87f0-6cebe54071b9_1256x278.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Let&#8217;s look at the perpetual growth model for the terminal value of a business (<a href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/financial-modeling/dcf-terminal-value-formula/">https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/financial-modeling/dcf-terminal-value-formula/</a>): </p><p>TV = (FCFn * (1+g)) / (WACC - g) ==&gt; g = ((TV/FCFn)*Rd - 1)/(1 + (TV/FCFn))</p><p>&#8230; and let&#8217;s let TV/FCFn be translated to P/E assuming that HKAM, being an asset management business, is extremely capex/asset-light and is free of debt (given that their largest investment is a royalty company and by how FRMO is run, I don&#8217;t think these are unreasonable assumptions).</p><p>Since we have HKAM&#8217;s most recent actual earnings from the summarized financials in the FRMO annual report and we know the market&#8217;s price implied expectation for HKAM&#8217;s value, then we can get the price-implied-expectation for the P/E multiple and HKAM perpetual growth rate that the market is baking into SLGD share prices.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Recall our working opportunity cost we are using for the discount rate against HKAM&#8217;s business is 27%, <strong>which from our table here would imply a perpetual growth rate of something like 0%. Is a 0% growth rate for HKAM&#8217;s earnings realistic?</strong></p><p>.</p><p>Like I&#8217;ve mentioned, <strong>FRMO has had a revenue royalty/participation interest in HK since at least 2010</strong> (the oldest annual report on their website where I can find it mentioned), this participation rate has always been <strong>a fixed 4.199%</strong> (at least since 2013), and their <strong>footnotes have (almost) always included a description of how much of their total revenues were from that HK revenue interest</strong>. Since we know the revenue participation rate is fixed, have a 10yr+ record of FRMO&#8217;s own revenues, as well as breakdowns of the portion of those revenues that come from the participation interest, we can work backwards to derive HKAM&#8217;s revenues going back those same 10+ years. Eg. if FRMO&#8217;s annual report shows total fee income is X and disclaims that Y% of fees were from the HK revenue interest, then we can derive HKAM&#8217;s total revenues (at the time of FRMO&#8217;s end of fiscal year<em>)</em> as (X*(Y/100))/0.04199. Here is a snippet of that data:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aIdy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef4c8f04-5134-4a6c-8082-9d49f9807fd2_1592x597.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aIdy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef4c8f04-5134-4a6c-8082-9d49f9807fd2_1592x597.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aIdy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fef4c8f04-5134-4a6c-8082-9d49f9807fd2_1592x597.png 848w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>The base revenue data up to 2019 is just copied from the blog post on FRMO here (<a href="https://fundamentalfinanceplaybook.com/2020/02/22/embedded-optionality-frmo-case-study/">https://fundamentalfinanceplaybook.com/2020/02/22/embedded-optionality-frmo-case-study/</a>).</em> <em>For the early years where no breakdown was provided, I just use the low end of the range of known portions of stream-based fees. Below I&#8217;ve removed the annual report footnote comments to compress the table so I can screenshot the whole thing.</em>)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7dQ2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F112e4bd4-8f4b-4a71-a207-ccbc07a9174e_1468x383.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7dQ2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F112e4bd4-8f4b-4a71-a207-ccbc07a9174e_1468x383.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7dQ2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F112e4bd4-8f4b-4a71-a207-ccbc07a9174e_1468x383.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7dQ2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F112e4bd4-8f4b-4a71-a207-ccbc07a9174e_1468x383.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7dQ2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F112e4bd4-8f4b-4a71-a207-ccbc07a9174e_1468x383.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7dQ2!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F112e4bd4-8f4b-4a71-a207-ccbc07a9174e_1468x383.png" width="1200" height="313.1868131868132" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/112e4bd4-8f4b-4a71-a207-ccbc07a9174e_1468x383.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:380,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:144011,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7dQ2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F112e4bd4-8f4b-4a71-a207-ccbc07a9174e_1468x383.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7dQ2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F112e4bd4-8f4b-4a71-a207-ccbc07a9174e_1468x383.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7dQ2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F112e4bd4-8f4b-4a71-a207-ccbc07a9174e_1468x383.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7dQ2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F112e4bd4-8f4b-4a71-a207-ccbc07a9174e_1468x383.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>Notice that these derived revenue figures roughly line up with the available official summarized revenue figures in the FRMO annual reports, except for 2021. This is due to the fact that HK&#8217;s fiscal year is not the same as FRMO&#8217;s and GAAP adjustments are made to the official reported numbers summarized in the FRMO reports </em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a><em>. Given that the numbers here are smoother while still generally matching up with the official FRMO HK summary financials, I&#8217;m inclined to take these as being closer to the cash accounting version of HK&#8217;s revenues.</em>)</p><p><strong>Notice that in these whole 10+ years, HKAM&#8217;s apparent revenue growth has been a whopping 0.01%</strong>. Given this no-growth status, we can also use the year-weighted average of HKAM&#8217;s revenue of $58,422,320.65 to make some estimates about normalized earnings.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z-ts!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F815f7ea3-1ba8-4edf-a842-30416d378c54_593x360.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Z-ts!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F815f7ea3-1ba8-4edf-a842-30416d378c54_593x360.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/41582db9-f69c-4dda-92da-fb2fe5bf0c63_1273x318.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:318,&quot;width&quot;:1273,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:123432,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JKDD!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F41582db9-f69c-4dda-92da-fb2fe5bf0c63_1273x318.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JKDD!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F41582db9-f69c-4dda-92da-fb2fe5bf0c63_1273x318.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JKDD!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F41582db9-f69c-4dda-92da-fb2fe5bf0c63_1273x318.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JKDD!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F41582db9-f69c-4dda-92da-fb2fe5bf0c63_1273x318.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>One way to estimate HKAM&#8217;s normalized earnings from that long-term revenue figure is by taking the average of the officially reported expenses and subtracting that from the normalized revenue estimate ($16,072,169.25). The other way is to take the average net margin ($10,658,172.46); I actually like this way better as it more closely lines up with the actual numbers (aside from 2021 which, as I mentioned, I think is misleading due to GAAP estimates) and the average net margin figure produced is pretty close to the average non-bank financial services&#8217;s 15.44% net margin, according to Prof. Damodaran&#8217;s NYU dataset for Jan 2024 (<a href="https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/margin.html">https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/margin.html</a>). </p><p>.</p><p>TV = (FCFn * (1+g)) / (WACC - g) ==&gt; g = ((TV/FCFn)*Rd - 1)/(1 + (TV/FCFn))</p><p>So, <em>iff</em> one accepts the idea that the opportunity cost of investing in HKAM is a mini-ETF of 90%/10%-TPL/GBTC (which has a long-term return record of ~27%), then according to the perpetual growth model (using the most recent HK earnings number and the market&#8217;s price implied value of HKAM) this would imply an earnings growth of 0% and we&#8217;ve just seen that there seems to actually be a case for why one might think that should be expected.</p><p>Thus, IMO, the market is not crazy to price SLGD at such a big spread below the merger&#8217;s Final Consideration target &#8220;IPO&#8221; price and the current discount is not quite the slam dunk that fellow Stahl-stans may think it (or I might wish it) to be.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UkOZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf3c545a-d7ae-4198-813e-bd8f10c3ee4a_495x495.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UkOZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf3c545a-d7ae-4198-813e-bd8f10c3ee4a_495x495.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UkOZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf3c545a-d7ae-4198-813e-bd8f10c3ee4a_495x495.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UkOZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf3c545a-d7ae-4198-813e-bd8f10c3ee4a_495x495.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UkOZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf3c545a-d7ae-4198-813e-bd8f10c3ee4a_495x495.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UkOZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf3c545a-d7ae-4198-813e-bd8f10c3ee4a_495x495.png" width="425" height="425" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/df3c545a-d7ae-4198-813e-bd8f10c3ee4a_495x495.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:495,&quot;width&quot;:495,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:425,&quot;bytes&quot;:384236,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UkOZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf3c545a-d7ae-4198-813e-bd8f10c3ee4a_495x495.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UkOZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf3c545a-d7ae-4198-813e-bd8f10c3ee4a_495x495.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UkOZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf3c545a-d7ae-4198-813e-bd8f10c3ee4a_495x495.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UkOZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf3c545a-d7ae-4198-813e-bd8f10c3ee4a_495x495.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>Epilogue</h1><p>OK, suppose all of that is just wrong.</p><p>Let&#8217;s play around with the perpetual growth model to see what kinds of earnings multiples would be implied by some alternative growth rates.</p><p>TV = (FCFn * (1+g)) / (Rd - g) ==&gt; TV/FCFn = (1 + g)/(Rd - g)</p><p>&#8230;again, we can let TV/FCFn = P/E for the asset management biz.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!osKk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a224c9b-e31a-478b-b418-fd18dd7725ee_1272x152.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!osKk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a224c9b-e31a-478b-b418-fd18dd7725ee_1272x152.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!osKk!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a224c9b-e31a-478b-b418-fd18dd7725ee_1272x152.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!osKk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a224c9b-e31a-478b-b418-fd18dd7725ee_1272x152.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!osKk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a224c9b-e31a-478b-b418-fd18dd7725ee_1272x152.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!osKk!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a224c9b-e31a-478b-b418-fd18dd7725ee_1272x152.png" width="1200" height="143.39622641509433" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1a224c9b-e31a-478b-b418-fd18dd7725ee_1272x152.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:152,&quot;width&quot;:1272,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:41895,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!osKk!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a224c9b-e31a-478b-b418-fd18dd7725ee_1272x152.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!osKk!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a224c9b-e31a-478b-b418-fd18dd7725ee_1272x152.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!osKk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a224c9b-e31a-478b-b418-fd18dd7725ee_1272x152.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!osKk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a224c9b-e31a-478b-b418-fd18dd7725ee_1272x152.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>Here I use the normalized long-term earnings estimate based on average known net margins (which is only slightly lower than the actual March 2023 numbers)</em>)</p><p>What kind of discount and growth rates, Rd, and g look right to you? You can use this table to estimate the upside based on your preferred multiple (and assuming the very low end of HK&#8217;s example NAV as presented in the Final Consideration calculation example in the merger doc (which, again, I think is a reasonable and not overly-conservative guess)).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BybT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcff771f1-0f0b-4ab2-8171-a3ccc57f23d8_1170x552.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BybT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcff771f1-0f0b-4ab2-8171-a3ccc57f23d8_1170x552.png 424w, 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This seems like a justified POV given the apparent generally range-bound revenues at HKAM over the past 20yrs. From the <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2024_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">FY2024Q2 FRMO earnings call</a>: </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Horizon Kinetics has a pretty big dividend payout ratio. FRMO doesn&#8217;t pay a dividend, but Horizon Kinetics pays, I think, a pretty robust dividend. 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Also, it&#8217;s possible that HK sees renewed growth as they shift from mutual funds to &#8220;actively managed&#8221; ETFs.</p><p><strong>TBH, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if SLGD ultimately just ends up trading based just on the dividend yield. I mean, that could be the play here: Invest in SLGD (or whatever HK is going to change the ticker name to) to get directional exposure to HKAM&#8217;s underlying investment portfolio (and likely very similar NAV composition and probably invested in their own funds) in addition to receiving a dividend from the fees that HKAM collects from managing that portfolio for clients</strong>. From this POV, anyone who is a retail investor in any of HK&#8217;s funds that basically just trade like &#8220;TPL/GBTC mini-ETFs&#8221; may as well just swap that position for SLGD shares at this current price point (which I think I&#8217;ve made the case as representing a fair value).</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>[A]bout ten years ago I had this theory &#8212;one of the few theories that actually proved to work out&#8212; though there was no way to implement it in investing. [&#8230;] And I thought, well, the private equity companies, they have to put some money in the deal. But then they're getting the incentive fee, on top of everything else. <strong>So, let's say they put money in Deal A. If Deal A is successful, then by definition they have to do better than the clients, because they will make the same return the clients make on the deal, but they will also then get the performance fees, which the clients will pay.</strong> So, I thought to myself, if I want to be in private equity, I'm much better off buying the publicly traded private equity companies than I am buying into private equity directly or through a private equity fund.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">Murray Stahl</a></p></blockquote><p>(Of course there are differences between PE and HK&#8217;s asset management business such as the fact that they are investing <em>mainly</em> in public equities, <em>largely</em> do not charge performance/incentive fees on top of their regular management fees, and generally aren&#8217;t going to be imposing multi-year lockup periods on clients <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a>, but the core principle of benefiting from both the investment performance and fee income by owning shares in the management company itself still applies).</p><p>.</p><p>Hopefully this analysis has been useful for anyone looking at the situation. Writing this all out took a lot longer than I thought it would; this is all just from a single spreadsheet that&#8217;s pretty compact and expanding it out into a linear narrative as required by this format was a lot more work than I thought it would be. If anyone catches anything odd or misguided, I&#8217;d be happy to be shown where I&#8217;m making any major errors in reasoning here.</p><p>.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! Subscribe for free to receive new posts.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>&#8220;I try to avoid conceptualizing the market in anthropomorphic terms. Markets don&#8217;t think. Just like mobs don&#8217;t think. Why did the mob decide to attack that building? Well, the mob didn&#8217;t actually think that. The market simply provides a price that comes about through a collection of human beings.&#8221; ~~~ Colm O&#8217;Shea in Jack Schwager&#8217;s &#8220;Hedge Fund Market Wizards&#8221;</em></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017024036394/0000950170-24-036394-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017024036394/0000950170-24-036394-index.htm</a>, see &#8220;ITEM 1. BUSINESS&#8221;; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/slgd-ex99_1.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/slgd-ex99_1.htm</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/0000950170-23-072802-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/0000950170-23-072802-index.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1811074/000181107424000015/0001811074-24-000015-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1811074/000181107424000015/0001811074-24-000015-index.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The issue is done and dusted at this point, but for more information on that saga, you can see the articles <a href="https://specialsituationinvesting.substack.com/p/tpls-governance-battle">here</a> </p><div class="embedded-post-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:109127564,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://specialsituationinvesting.substack.com/p/tpls-governance-battle&quot;,&quot;publication_id&quot;:903552,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Special Situation Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc51efdb6-fb37-421b-be35-8c9e30f851bc_750x750.png&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;TPL's governance battle (TPL)&quot;,&quot;truncated_body_text&quot;:&quot;Welcome to Special Situation Investing Episode 69. 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</svg></div><span class="embedded-post-cta">Listen now</span></div><div class="embedded-post-meta">2 years ago &#183; 28 likes &#183; 18 comments &#183; Six Bravo</div></a></div><p> as well and peruse the popular blog dedicated to following the company <a href="https://tpltblog.com/">here</a>.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/form_adv.asp">https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/form_adv.asp</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/slgd-ex2_1.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/slgd-ex2_1.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Eg&#8230;</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>The general rule of thumb in the world of investment management is to say an asset management company is worth 3% of assets under management</em>&#8221;, <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a> </p></blockquote><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>By the way, we also have some crypto investments at HK, one of which is HM Tech, because HK owns a 50-plus percent in HM Tech. I would argue that's probably worth more than the carrying value. In any event, if we take the assets under management with, let's say, roughly $7.2 billion, and if you valued it at 3% of AUM, you could do the calculation.</em>&#8221;, <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://fintel.io/i/horizon-kinetics-asset-management">https://fintel.io/i/horizon-kinetics-asset-management</a>; IDK why the AUM figure for December 2023 here is no much smaller than HK&#8217;s disclosed AUM in the ADV brochure. I assume it has to do with them filing other ownership disclosures under other subsidiaries</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em><a href="https://www.google.com/finance/quote/WWNPX:MUTF?sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiThLy5saiFAxXSLEQIHdL8D60Q3ecFegQIHhAe&amp;window=YTD">https://www.google.com/finance/quote/WWNPX:MUTF?sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiThLy5saiFAxXSLEQIHdL8D60Q3ecFegQIHhAe&amp;window=YTD</a></em></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/10ks.html">https://www.frmocorp.com/10ks.html</a>, see &#8220;<em>NOTE 5 - Investments</em>&#8221;</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>On the topic of liquidity, while the Prop. 4 issues at TPL may be seen as an overall hindrance to the company&#8217;s value, I&#8217;d bet the 1-to-3 stock split and subsequent reduced per share price might have actually helped HK in some small way by making TPL shares more liquid.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://whalewisdom.com/filer/horizon-asset-management-inc-ny">https://whalewisdom.com/filer/horizon-asset-management-inc-ny</a>; TPL is classified as &#8220;Real Estate&#8221; and GBTC lumped in as &#8220;Finance&#8221; in the histogram here</p><div 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They may actually want to find a way to sell GBTC to swap that captial into one of the lower-fee ETFs that now exist, such as BlackRock&#8217;s IBIT, specifically.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The individual thematic funds with less overall exposure to TPL et al are another story.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><em>HK/FRMO co-founder Steve Bregman discusses this issue here (see &#8220;Questioner 4&#8221;, <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2022_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2022_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a>)</em></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I&#8217;m only concealing their online identity here because, while basically a harmless statement, this was based on a private conversation I&#8217;ve not asked their permission to mention them by name, but did want to note that that was not my own original thought.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://files.adviserinfo.sec.gov/IAPD/Content/Common/crd_iapd_Brochure.aspx?BRCHR_VRSN_ID=902164">https://files.adviserinfo.sec.gov/IAPD/Content/Common/crd_iapd_Brochure.aspx?BRCHR_VRSN_ID=902164</a></p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[($FNV) Franco-Nevada Corporation: Gold royalty royalty in temporary turmoil]]></title><description><![CDATA[********** UPDATE 20240308: FNV just released their 2023Q4 numbers (https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837024002504/0001558370-24-002504-index.html) and included mention that they were pursuing arbitration with the Panama government for damages associated with the ordered shutdown of Cobre Panama. &#8220;We are pursuing legal avenues to protect our investment in Cobre Panama. We have notified the Ministry of Commerce and Industries of Panama (&#8220;MICI&#8221;) of our intent to initiate arbitration pursuant to the Canada-Panama Free Trade Agreement. As announced to MICI, Franco-Nevada presently and preliminarily estimates its damages to be at least $5 billion, subject to further analysis and development.&#8221; Note that FNV&#8217;s total dollar investment towards Cobre was about $1bn (]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/fnv-franco-nevada-corporation-gold</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/fnv-franco-nevada-corporation-gold</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2024 23:45:25 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb70ae4c0-84d2-4400-9fe7-9c548ddde300_2100x2348.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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I randomly bought it off Amazon for $40 last year and I just checked around and saw that the lowest price for that edition is now around $200 &#8212;perhaps there&#8217;s an analogy here to be made of gold and gold bugs.)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p>Ticker: FNV</p></li><li><p>Marketcap: $20610.23MM (USD)</p></li><li><p>Price: $107.25</p></li><li><p>PT: $135</p></li><li><p>Payback period: 1 - 4yrs</p></li><li><p>Upside CAGR: 26% - 6%</p></li><li><p>Downside: $105</p></li><li><p>Downside CAGR: -2 - -0.5%</p></li></ul><h1>Intro</h1><p>Franco-Nevada (FNV) is the largest <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a> gold-focused royalty company in the world and in fact is generally credited as the originator of the gold royalty business model<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>. FNV operates within an oligopoly and their business model provides direct exposure to gold, silver, oil &amp; gas, and other commodities while being extremely low-leverage and asset-light. </p><p>In November 2023, copper miner First Quantum Minerals (FQM) suspended operations at their Cobre Panama copper mine, operated by subsidiary Minera Panama, S.A. (MPSA), after a renegotiated deal with the Panamanian government resulted in disruptive protests/blockades/attacks <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> that were impeding supplies to the site and were later followed by Panama&#8217;s Supreme Court ruling FQM&#8217;s operating license invalid <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>, which prompted the Panamanian government to order that the mine be closed <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a>. </p><p>The mine closure resulted in FNV releasing an adjusted projection of total gold equivalent ounces (GEO) production for 2023 that represented a decline in expectations for the year by 9%<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a>. The royalty stream that FNV had in place for FQM&#8217;s gold and silver byproducts from their copper mining operations constituted 25% of FNV&#8217;s revenues in 2022<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a>. FNV&#8217;s stock price has since fallen by about as much since the mine closure and is now trading at an EV/EBITDA multiple below its COVID19 lows of March 2020 and below where it traded in the year that the Cobre Panama project first started making actual deliveries to FNV (which was early July 2019)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a>. </p><p>(<em>To all you Munger fans about to criticize my use of EBITDA, I&#8217;ll just note that FNV has no debt and the vast majority (if not all) of the spending that US GAAP-adjusted data on FNV has marked as &#8220;capex&#8221; is actually growth (not maintenance) capex that the company is spending on new royalty/streaming investments, so I think EBITDA is a fine proxy for FNV&#8217;s discretionary free cashflow in this case</em>).</p><p>The stock appears to be trading as if the Cobre mine will remain closed permanently. Given that the mine accounted for 5% of the country&#8217;s GDP <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a> (just behind the Panama Canal&#8217;s 6.5% of GDP, which facing it&#8217;s own problems), I don&#8217;t think the closure will be permanent or even for very long. In any case, you&#8217;re at worst paying fair value at current prices with a, then free, call option on the Cobre mine reopening.</p><p>.</p><p>I won&#8217;t be getting much into the issue of the &#8220;true value&#8221; of gold in this post. I&#8217;ll just say that <em>if</em> one wants exposure to gold in their portfolio, I think that gold royalty companies are the better way to get exposure vs mining ETFs and even physical ownership (perhaps this last point indicates what side of the fence I lean more towards in the &#8220;value of gold&#8221; discussion). With that said, I think paying fair value right now for the original grand daddy of the gold royalty business model, with a free (or, as I believe, &#8216;<em>not priced in</em>&#8217;) call option on a resolution to the Cobre situation, is a pretty good way to get asset-light gold exposure for a diversified portfolio.</p><p>Also note that my portfolio holds around 20% of its capital in money market funds, so I&#8217;m not exactly short the US dollar here.</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;1b1ebe6c-49b1-43e4-9b6a-a1c8c4c4b71d&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;Commentary Portfolio review Largest positions Size-weighted gainers/losers Commentary For the year 2023, my primary portfolio beat the S&amp;P 600 by about 100bps, under-performed vs the Russel 2000 by about 300bps, and beat the IWC iShares Microcap ETF by 500bps.&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Portfolio review 2023, annual&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2024-01-03T00:08:04.161Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf9fdca4-e3dc-4d6e-88ce-9942e5ebc488_960x720.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/portfolio-review-2023-annual&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:139945007,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:2,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>.</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/140784655/obligatorily-brief-description-of-what-gold-royalty-companies-do">Obligatorily brief on royalties</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/140784655/fnv-history">FNV history</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/140784655/cobre-panama">Cobre Panama</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/140784655/valuation">Valuation</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/140784655/closing">Closing</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/140784655/catalysts">Catalysts</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/140784655/random-ramblings-on-gold">Ramblings on gold</a></p></li></ul><h1>Obligatorily brief description of what gold royalty companies do</h1><p>A royalty represents a payment made to a royalty holder by a property owner or mine operator, this payment is either made via a percentage of the revenues or profits generated from the property, often <em>in perpetuity</em> (I&#8217;ve also heard these being called &#8220;pure royalties&#8221;)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a>. Payment may might also be made as a percentage of physical minerals or byproducts produced from the property, streamed to the royalty owner at some agreed-upon price or arranged discount to spot prices (these are called stream-based or streaming royalties)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a>. (<em>Unlike revenue-based royalties, streams typically have some finite life </em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a>). Royalty companies may also own working interests in which they are responsible for a share of the costs (eg. operating and environmental management/stewardship expenses), while getting a portion of the earnings in return. </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Streaming deals are normally focused on specific commodities produced by a particular project, such as precious-metal by-products from a base-metals project. In return for this up-front cash payment (the &#8220;deposit balance&#8221;), the streaming partner secures a share of future production at an agreed-upon discounted price, which may be fixed or alternatively a floating percentage of the prevailing spot price. Thus, miners receive payment on delivery for streamed physical volumes. [R]oyalty deals are normally commodity agnostic and based on overall project revenues; the royalty company never actually &#8220;sees&#8221; the commodities that the mine produces, but rather just receives a share of the revenue generated (the royalty). <strong>In effect, streaming deals are settled by the physical transfer of metal while royalty deals are settled with cash.</strong></em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/metals-and-mining/our-insights/streaming-and-royalties-in-mining-let-the-music-play-on">https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/metals-and-mining/our-insights/streaming-and-royalties-in-mining-let-the-music-play-on</a> </p></blockquote><p>You can read more details on the different types of royalty agreements in FNV&#8217;s annual report here: <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d1.htm#EXPLANATIONOFROYALTIESSTREAMSANDOTHERINT">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d1.htm#EXPLANATIONOFROYALTIESSTREAMSANDOTHERINT</a></p><p>One could think of royalty companies as private equity firms that provide financing to mining companies and landowners in exchange for royalty agreements. Royalty companies tend to be the <em>highest</em>-cost-of-capital option for miners/operators and these deals are most commonly done with companies that &#8212;due to reasons that may be individual (eg. too much existing leverage) or macro (eg. an ESG-induced drought of institutional financing options)&#8212; find it unfavorable to raise capital via the traditional equity- or debt-markets<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a>. This dynamic tends to give royalty companies some counter-cyclicality relative to the rest of the commodities industry, since the times where the industry is under duress presents lots of additional opportunities for royalty companies to deploy their considerable cashflows &#8212;keep in mind that these kinds of businesses tend to have very little debt (FNV has none) and virtually no need for any maintenance capex. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TV23!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0db9b751-2334-4e2e-bcfc-c56f6844875d_1822x852.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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In many cases (such as with streaming agreements where the operator&#8217;s primary focus is in mining, say, copper with the gold &amp; silver in the deposit being extracted coincident to that copper extraction), deals with royalty companies can also be more mutually beneficial as the operator gets initial or on-going financing and a guaranteed buyer for the byproduct of their projects. &#8220;<em>Mining companies have resorted to these types of agreements for construction work, expansion of current operations or to obtain funds for the repayment of outstanding debt with formal lenders.</em>&#8221; <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.goldroyalty.com/why-grc/royalty-and-streaming-101/">https://www.goldroyalty.com/why-grc/royalty-and-streaming-101/</a></em>)</p><p>Given that FNV&#8217;s main commodity of focus is precious metals, their economics tend to also have a level of counter-cyclicality against the rest of the general market as well, making them an even more attractive addition to a diversified portfolio. Below I graph FNV&#8217;s cashflows from operations vs Berkshire, Johnson &amp; Johnson, and Proctor &amp; Gamble (as proxies for the general market). (<em>Note that unlike FNV, JNJ and PG have significant maintenance capex requirements that are not reflected here; I would have used their FCF numbers, but wanted to keep everything fair</em>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kKsJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F31f0a747-6fec-4c2c-81f3-eef4f79deeaa_1822x1126.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kKsJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F31f0a747-6fec-4c2c-81f3-eef4f79deeaa_1822x1126.png 424w, 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way I see it, royalty mineral rights and streaming rights are akin to owning the gold (or whatever other commodity the company focuses on) in a vault, in this case the vault is the subsurface of the earth itself (so the storage is basically free and perpetual).</p><p>(<em>Side note: I assume that during the Great Depression that, when the ownership of physical gold was banned in the US by President Roosevelt&#8217;s Executive Order 6102, the ownership of stocks in and adjacent to the gold industry were not banned and the order seems to have a cutout for companies mining and refining gold &#8212;though who knows how gold royalty interests would have been treated as that business model came to popularity with FNV&#8217;s founding in 1983, well after the time the executive order was issued in 1933 (repealed in 1974)</em>). <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a></p><p>Keep in mind is that royalty agreements are typically perpetual claims on the property/land/resource itself (&#8220;interest in land&#8221; vs contractual rights between specific parties)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-19" href="#footnote-19" target="_self">19</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-20" href="#footnote-20" target="_self">20</a> and supersedes the lease on the land of whomever the operator is that happens to be doing the actual mining at the time. If the current operator goes bankrupt, then whoever next obtains that lease or property will still have to abide by the royalty agreement if they continue extracting resources<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-21" href="#footnote-21" target="_self">21</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-22" href="#footnote-22" target="_self">22</a>. </p><p>Aside from the possibility of the value of the gold in the royalty company&#8217;s &#8220;vault&#8221; rising with the rest of the gold market, the <em>amount &#8220;stored&#8221;</em> can also magically &#8220;grow&#8221; as more mineral deposits are discovered <em>by the operators</em>&nbsp;on the land and as new technologies (the R&amp;D costs of which are borne <em>by the operators</em> or adjacent businesses) make existing deposits more profitable (either by increasing yields or reducing extraction costs). So, royalty companies pay for royalties and streams, while also gaining free leverage from near-perpetual call options on higher commodity prices and volumes.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>And so I looked I went through my numbers and I said, well at the very worst I'm going to get my money back.</em> [&#8230;] <em>And then what happened is about a year and a half later that property was sold. <strong>The operator sold the entire property to Barrick [Gold] and needless to say, Barrick proceeded to discover Gold Strike </strong></em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-23" href="#footnote-23" target="_self">23</a><em><strong>, which made up, now, 50 million ounces of gold and the rest is history</strong></em>&#8221; ~~~ Franco-Nevada founder, Pierre Lassonde, on FNV&#8217;s first royalty (I believe the popular consensus at the time was that the property contained only 500,000 oz of gold)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-24" href="#footnote-24" target="_self">24</a>.</p></blockquote><p><em>(As of April 2023, around 62% of FNV&#8217;s various royalty and streaming assets were still in their exploration phase</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-25" href="#footnote-25" target="_self">25</a><em>, leaving lots of room for surprise upside in deposit discoveries that may not yet be priced into the stock).</em></p><p>Operators pay the royalty business in cash (or in a <em>discounted</em> portion of the extracted resources) in exchange for permission to extract that gold from the &#8220;vault&#8221;, while the royalty businesses doesn&#8217;t have to lift a finger other than to draft purchase agreements and cash checks <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-26" href="#footnote-26" target="_self">26</a>. FNV had only 40 full time employees (+5 part-time contractors) as of 2023Q1 supporting the company&#8217;s USD$20bn market cap and generating cashflows from operations of $999.50MM in 2022 <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-27" href="#footnote-27" target="_self">27</a>. EBITDA margins in the 70%s and 80%s for royalty companies are the norm, with FNV sporting the highest margins among the big 3 royalty companies (the others being Wheaton Precious Metals and Royal Gold). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PG7g!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd840d36-7776-46cb-82d8-541bc4ec28a1_1520x406.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PG7g!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd840d36-7776-46cb-82d8-541bc4ec28a1_1520x406.png 424w, 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You could theoretically do it in gold or silver, even, if you wanted to hold all the gold in your balance sheet and not sell it. It&#8217;s just that we can&#8217;t find a business like that to acquire, because nobody does that. If there were a company that did that, we would be very interested. The closest version you can find are the royalty companies, where you look at the future earnings stream. For a gold-based royalty company, there&#8217;s gold in the ground, but it&#8217;s going to be converted into cash.</em>&#8221; ~~~ Murray Stahl, FRMO FY2023Q3 conference call (<a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a>)</p><p>.&nbsp;</p><p>While there are many gold royalty companies today, I think that FNV, WPM, and RGLD actually form a kind of oligopoly in the gold royalty industry in terms of access to deal flow for new royalties.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>The smaller companies all need to find a royalty that will anchor them</strong>. In the case of Franco-Nevada, it was Goldstrike, where the deposit went from 500,000 oz gold to now having produced 40 Moz gold. <strong>Until that anchor is found, it&#8217;s a really difficult business because the deals are small, and the payouts are very uncertain</strong>. As a result, I think many junior royalty companies will not survive.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1222333/000119312514209872/d733542dfwp.htm">Pierre Lassonde</a></p></blockquote><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>Royalty companies today, there&#8217;s probably 50, 60, I don't know the total but somewhere in there, essentially mirrors the mining business, that&#8217;s it. You know, like, you got to have two or three that are very large company</strong>, you know, 10 plus billion market cap, and then you have the midsized in the the 1 billion, 5, 7, 8 9, and then you have like 50 that are the small minos they&#8217;re really, really small and most of those are not going to survive. <strong>Most junior exploration companies don't survive, so the same model. There&#8217;s been very few acquisitions of royalty companies by royalty companies, there&#8217;ve been very few mergers.</strong> Each one is still very much independent. The big ones are all well run and the they have good assets, so I think they got to be there for the duration.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/2dHR8BROIXdUI3GTW4oMGq">Pierre Lassonde</a></p></blockquote><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>[T]he industry remains very consolidated, with the top three players &#8212;Wheaton Precious Metals, Franco-Nevada Corporation, and Royal Gold&#8212; representing approximately 80 percent of the total value of streaming-and-royalty contracts</strong> as defined by volume of gold equivalent ounces (GEOs).&#8221; ~~~ </em><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/metals-and-mining/our-insights/streaming-and-royalties-in-mining-let-the-music-play-on">https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/metals-and-mining/our-insights/streaming-and-royalties-in-mining-let-the-music-play-on</a> </p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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(Of course, not all royalty financing in exclusive, but FNV&#8217;s size allows them to provide financing to these smaller projects with a smaller impact to their overall bankroll). As just one example of many, their recent 2023 annual report notes that they acquired a 1% NSR on Gold Candle Ltd.&#8217;s (&#8220;Gold Candle&#8221;) Kerr-Addison project located in Ontario for a purchase price of $10MM (which amounts to just 0.037% of FNV&#8217;s marketcap and (10/991.20=)1% of their 2023 cashflow from operations) (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837024003443/fnv-20231231xex99d1.htm#GENERALDEVELOPMENTOFFRANCONEVADASBUSINES">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837024003443/fnv-20231231xex99d1.htm#GENERALDEVELOPMENTOFFRANCONEVADASBUSINES</a>). Perhaps this practice is simply keeping in mind the call-optionality aspect of royalties on gold projects that played into FNV&#8217;s own original anchor royalty, Goldstrike, in the Carlin Trend that catapulted the company to the dominant position it enjoys today. Whatever the case, it&#8217;s clear that FNV is not so content to leave much scraps for smaller comps. </p><p>What kind of scale advantage to call this exactly? IDK.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Just the language of what you said &#8212; is this &#8216;really&#8217; scale economies, and you mentioned earlier, blurring the boundaries, stretching the boundaries and so on. That&#8217;s where you get into the ill-structuredness (of reality), and where you want to blur the boundaries &#8212; in a sense, the more you stretch it, the more the use becomes metaphorical or analogical.</em></p><p><em>[&#8230;] And so it&#8217;s helpful to think of this in the case of Nike &#8212; you know, a higher amount of advertising because they&#8217;re (spending) 10-12% [the standard budget across all athletic apparel companies observed in the discussion] of a large number. Is that economies of scale or just scale? It doesn&#8217;t really matter. It is what it is. If you try to pigeonhole it into economies of scale or not economies of scale, you miss the Nike case, the actual Nike case and (the) reality with its advertising, with some aspects of economies of scale, and other things that are just scale, but whatever it is, it&#8217;s not about do you pigeonhole this under the concept of economies of scale? It&#8217;s what&#8217;s going on with Nike that didn&#8217;t go on with the other companies.</em></p><p><em>A key principle is that the reality comes first, and concepts are used to help you understand reality, not the other way around. For too long, we&#8217;ve had concepts at the top, and then cases that illustrated the concept. &#8220;&#8216;Economies of scale&#8217;, here&#8217;s an example, here&#8217;s another example.&#8221; And then you discard the cases. In a messy, ill-structured, real world, it&#8217;s reversed! It&#8217;s the case that&#8217;s on top, and each case has different concepts.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://commoncog.com/focus-on-the-cases/">https://commoncog.com/focus-on-the-cases/</a></p></blockquote><p>  </p><p>**********</p><p>.</p><p>Because of this attractive business model, royalty companies tend to trade at a premium to other types of businesses in the gold mining industry.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3ALv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ed294ff-d28f-4435-bd23-f2f2a209c44d_826x439.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/metals-and-mining/our-insights/streaming-and-royalties-in-mining-let-the-music-play-on">https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/metals-and-mining/our-insights/streaming-and-royalties-in-mining-let-the-music-play-on</a></em>)</p><h1>FNV history</h1><p>Founded by Pierre Lassonde and Seymour Schulich in 1986, Franco Nevada IPO&#8217;ed on the Toronto Stock Exchange in late 2007 and later listed on the US NYSE in 2011<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-28" href="#footnote-28" target="_self">28</a>. FNV is generally recognized as the originator of the gold royalty business model (or at least the first to make the model successful on a large scale). They are the largest royalty and streaming company in the world and their royalties collectively cover around 66,200 square km of as of December 2023 <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-29" href="#footnote-29" target="_self">29</a>, a little larger than the state of West Virginia; imagine if every square kilometer of the state were covered in some kind of project that was extracting, or planning to extract, some discovered combination of gold, silver, oil, and gas. That&#8217;s Franco Nevada. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r3Cd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91878e2b-213d-4038-a6ab-6892d43db5f6_1280x792.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r3Cd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91878e2b-213d-4038-a6ab-6892d43db5f6_1280x792.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r3Cd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91878e2b-213d-4038-a6ab-6892d43db5f6_1280x792.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r3Cd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91878e2b-213d-4038-a6ab-6892d43db5f6_1280x792.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r3Cd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91878e2b-213d-4038-a6ab-6892d43db5f6_1280x792.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r3Cd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91878e2b-213d-4038-a6ab-6892d43db5f6_1280x792.png" width="474" height="293.2875" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/91878e2b-213d-4038-a6ab-6892d43db5f6_1280x792.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:792,&quot;width&quot;:1280,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:474,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Map of the United States with West Virginia highlighted&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Map of the United States with West Virginia highlighted" title="Map of the United States with West Virginia highlighted" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r3Cd!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91878e2b-213d-4038-a6ab-6892d43db5f6_1280x792.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r3Cd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91878e2b-213d-4038-a6ab-6892d43db5f6_1280x792.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r3Cd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91878e2b-213d-4038-a6ab-6892d43db5f6_1280x792.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!r3Cd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91878e2b-213d-4038-a6ab-6892d43db5f6_1280x792.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia#/media/File:West_Virginia_in_United_States.svg">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia#/media/File:West_Virginia_in_United_States.svg</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>(Mineral <em>streaming</em> deals are recognized as originating with Wheaton River Minerals, now Wheaton Precious Metals, in 2004). You can listen to some interesting interviews with FNV&#8217;s remaining founder Pierre Lassonde on the companies founding, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxMF8bsN6EU&amp;t=1008s">here</a> and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/2dHR8BROIXdUI3GTW4oMGq">here</a>.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>So the whole story of the royalty businesses is interesting because the original company Franco Nevada was created simply for Seymour and I to be able to go ski and play poker in Nevada and being able to write the trip against our taxes, that's the plain reality</strong>. And then we raised two million dollars most of which was our own money, but then like a lot of friends&#8217; money and we said well what heck we&#8217;re gonna do with the money? Now you know we had a problem. And so the first year and a half we participated in a bunch of exploration programs that of course all turned to zero. Then I was writing the annual report and I went to Seymour&#8217;s office and I say &#8220;Seymour, all I have to do, all I have to say to the shareholders is that I'm losing their money and you and I are the biggest shareholder and we&#8217;re the biggest dummies.&#8221; So, we started sort of a brainstorming session right there in his office about it like &#8220;well what else we can do in this business that&#8217;s different?&#8221; and he [Seymour] being from the oil and gas business at one point just said, he just floated it off, he said <strong>&#8220;well in the oil and gas business there&#8217;s royalties, like, aren't there any in the mining business?&#8221;</strong>&#8230; </em>&#8221; ~~~ Pierre Lassonde, The Norther Miner CMS 2018</p></blockquote><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20240204: I also just ran across this interview with Lassonde from a few weeks ago that I thought was pretty interesting. He talks about FNV&#8217;s founding (understandably, he tells the story generally the same every time across many interviews), as well as his views on the state of gold prices, Bitcoin, and some other interesting topics.</em></p><div id="youtube2-YMWeAbZQSEE" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;YMWeAbZQSEE&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/YMWeAbZQSEE?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>**********</p><p>Here is Franco-Nevada&#8217;s total compounded&nbsp;return since it&#8217;s IPO (which was right around the start of the 2008 market crash) up to November 2023 vs the standard market indexes and gold ETFs (note that the NASDAQ is heavily concentrated in tech stocks like Nvidia, Apple, Google, Tesla, etc whose stock prices have seen tremendous growth over this past decade and have been major drivers of the index&#8217;s performance):</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUx8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8df3d38c-4625-4ccb-9132-2ea358b89038_992x636.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUx8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8df3d38c-4625-4ccb-9132-2ea358b89038_992x636.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUx8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8df3d38c-4625-4ccb-9132-2ea358b89038_992x636.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUx8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8df3d38c-4625-4ccb-9132-2ea358b89038_992x636.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUx8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8df3d38c-4625-4ccb-9132-2ea358b89038_992x636.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EUx8!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8df3d38c-4625-4ccb-9132-2ea358b89038_992x636.png" width="898" height="575.733870967742" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.franco-nevada.com/about-us/our-company/default.aspx">https://www.franco-nevada.com/about-us/our-company/default.aspx</a></em>)</p><p>.</p><p>Below, we can see the mineral, geographic, and royalty-type diversification of FNV&#8217;s portfolio:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M0ul!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F123548ae-1470-4b47-885d-48ab36b1b4bd_541x577.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>Some may be turned off by the exposure to oil and gas that FNV has dipped their toe into. I happen to like it, but it&#8217;s very understandable why that might turn someone off from the stock when they&#8217;re looking for a &#8220;gold royalty&#8221; company.</em>)</p><p>Note that due to recent events, Central America revenue exposure is actually now significantly smaller than 27% as Cobre Panama made up 75% of FNV&#8217;s Central America revenues in 2022 <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-30" href="#footnote-30" target="_self">30</a>. </p><p>I think it&#8217;s also interesting to see how FNV&#8217;s cash gets spent. Note that most of FNV&#8217;s &#8220;capex&#8221; spending is on making royalty investments (TIKR.com seems to put these values under capex whereas FNV&#8217;s annual report uses the more general &#8220;<em>investing activities</em>&#8221;), so really I think cash from operations is a better measurement of FNV&#8217;s <em>&#8220;</em>free<em>&#8221;</em> cash than the FCF that TIKR reports (which is cash from ops. minus <em>their </em>accounting of capex)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-31" href="#footnote-31" target="_self">31</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHqy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22709729-0e6e-4f65-92e7-86302a6c7dfd_2014x1244.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHqy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22709729-0e6e-4f65-92e7-86302a6c7dfd_2014x1244.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHqy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22709729-0e6e-4f65-92e7-86302a6c7dfd_2014x1244.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHqy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22709729-0e6e-4f65-92e7-86302a6c7dfd_2014x1244.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHqy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22709729-0e6e-4f65-92e7-86302a6c7dfd_2014x1244.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QHqy!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F22709729-0e6e-4f65-92e7-86302a6c7dfd_2014x1244.png" width="1008" height="622.3846153846154" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/22709729-0e6e-4f65-92e7-86302a6c7dfd_2014x1244.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:899,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1008,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Notice that if we overlay this investment activity (capex, the blue in the graph) with changes in gold prices, we see that FNV is able to use their cash generative business model to be very opportunistic during times of stress in the rest of the gold industry (eg. with capex spiking into 2015, when gold miner stock neared their bottom, continuing into 2020, as gold and gold miners started to rise again, and as gold and miners started falling in 2021). FNV has no debt and has only ever carried any debt in 3 of it&#8217;s 16 year history as a public company.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QfSC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4112b064-bdd4-4ad0-885b-488c64a6802b_1372x497.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QfSC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4112b064-bdd4-4ad0-885b-488c64a6802b_1372x497.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QfSC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4112b064-bdd4-4ad0-885b-488c64a6802b_1372x497.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QfSC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4112b064-bdd4-4ad0-885b-488c64a6802b_1372x497.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QfSC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4112b064-bdd4-4ad0-885b-488c64a6802b_1372x497.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QfSC!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4112b064-bdd4-4ad0-885b-488c64a6802b_1372x497.png" width="1200" height="434.6938775510204" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4112b064-bdd4-4ad0-885b-488c64a6802b_1372x497.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:497,&quot;width&quot;:1372,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:129291,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QfSC!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4112b064-bdd4-4ad0-885b-488c64a6802b_1372x497.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QfSC!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4112b064-bdd4-4ad0-885b-488c64a6802b_1372x497.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QfSC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4112b064-bdd4-4ad0-885b-488c64a6802b_1372x497.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QfSC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4112b064-bdd4-4ad0-885b-488c64a6802b_1372x497.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&amp;sl=4Ol0DIpuYPctQpuIs4DiZn">https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&amp;sl=4Ol0DIpuYPctQpuIs4DiZn</a>; peak-to-peak drawdowns in FNV, IAU, and GDX</em>)</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>My final thing is to be in companies who are able to seize opportunities when others don&#8217;t even see them or aren&#8217;t able to seize them.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.mining.com/web/pierre-lassonde-franco-nevada-very-few-get-this-but-its-worth-so-much-money/">Pierre Lassonde</a></p></blockquote><p>One might ask: why, if FNV is so cash-generative, did they need to do such large stock issuances in the 2014-2017 period in order to do deals <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-32" href="#footnote-32" target="_self">32</a>? I&#8217;m not totally sure, to be honest. I assume the reasons were to take greater advantage of the distressed period that the rest of the gold industry was facing at that time. In any case, regardless of their financing mix, we can see that in the 3- and 5-year periods after these equity financing rounds, the CFFO/sh has not left investor&#8217;s share of operating cashflows negatively diluted. (Not shown here is that FNV also did not carry any net debt except for in the years 2015, 2018, and 2019).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BMp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7eac926b-300c-4a3c-ab18-873e662ff303_1606x872.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BMp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7eac926b-300c-4a3c-ab18-873e662ff303_1606x872.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4BMp!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7eac926b-300c-4a3c-ab18-873e662ff303_1606x872.png 848w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Looking at the company&#8217;s ROIC, given that most of FNV&#8217;s &#8220;capex&#8221; spending in is on making royalty investments and their &#8220;<em>asset base is primarily comprised of non-current assets such as our royalty, stream and working interests, and investments, while our current assets are primarily comprised of cash and cash equivalents and receivables</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-33" href="#footnote-33" target="_self">33</a>, it makes a bit of sense to give their invested capital some turnaround time. (Though I&#8217;d note that FNV&#8217;s ROIC had been steady and positive since their IPO and was beginning to inflect on the first Cobre deliveries, until the present issues at that mine cropped up (as we will go into later)).</p><p>Below I chart FNV&#8217;s incremental return on capital (ROIIC) on a 2- and 3-yr lag based on the writings of Michael Mauboussin.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_iNv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43ed8009-dfec-4569-b035-a2b3a5114834_677x105.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_iNv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43ed8009-dfec-4569-b035-a2b3a5114834_677x105.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_iNv!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43ed8009-dfec-4569-b035-a2b3a5114834_677x105.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_iNv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43ed8009-dfec-4569-b035-a2b3a5114834_677x105.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_iNv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43ed8009-dfec-4569-b035-a2b3a5114834_677x105.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_iNv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43ed8009-dfec-4569-b035-a2b3a5114834_677x105.png" width="677" height="105" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/43ed8009-dfec-4569-b035-a2b3a5114834_677x105.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:105,&quot;width&quot;:677,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:22906,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_iNv!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43ed8009-dfec-4569-b035-a2b3a5114834_677x105.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_iNv!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43ed8009-dfec-4569-b035-a2b3a5114834_677x105.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_iNv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43ed8009-dfec-4569-b035-a2b3a5114834_677x105.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_iNv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43ed8009-dfec-4569-b035-a2b3a5114834_677x105.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_returnoninvestedcapital.pdf">https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_returnoninvestedcapital.pdf</a>; here we see a formula for a 1yr lagging measurement of ROIIC; &#8220;One way to dampen the noise is to calculate ROIIC over three- or five-year periods. In the case of a three-year rolling ROIIC, you take the change in NOPAT over the last three years (Year3 NOPAT &#8211; Year0 NOPAT) and divide it by the change in invested capital, again with a lag (Year2 invested capital &#8211; Year-1 invested capital).&#8221;</em>)</p><p>Eg. from the POV of a rolling 3yr ROIIC, the additional NOPAT by end of 2016 (compared to what is was at <em>end</em> of 2013) is thought of as being generated by the additional invested capital that was put into the business between the <em>start</em> of 2013 to the end of 2015. (<em>So the 2016 3yr ROIIC is calculated as (NOPAT2016-NOPAT2013)/(IC2015-IC2012)</em>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m3Rv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2448ade-d323-4d44-a778-026dcc0d6d11_1916x1184.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m3Rv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2448ade-d323-4d44-a778-026dcc0d6d11_1916x1184.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m3Rv!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2448ade-d323-4d44-a778-026dcc0d6d11_1916x1184.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m3Rv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2448ade-d323-4d44-a778-026dcc0d6d11_1916x1184.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m3Rv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2448ade-d323-4d44-a778-026dcc0d6d11_1916x1184.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m3Rv!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2448ade-d323-4d44-a778-026dcc0d6d11_1916x1184.png" width="904" height="558.7912087912088" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b2448ade-d323-4d44-a778-026dcc0d6d11_1916x1184.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:900,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:904,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m3Rv!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2448ade-d323-4d44-a778-026dcc0d6d11_1916x1184.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m3Rv!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2448ade-d323-4d44-a778-026dcc0d6d11_1916x1184.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m3Rv!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2448ade-d323-4d44-a778-026dcc0d6d11_1916x1184.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!m3Rv!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb2448ade-d323-4d44-a778-026dcc0d6d11_1916x1184.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Overall, we see that FNV does indeed create net value for their shareholders over time. Of course, it&#8217;s not just about what you&#8217;re getting, but what you pay for it&#8230;  </p><p>.</p><p>Right now FNV is trading at a historically low multiple and appears to be fully pricing in an expected future where the Cobre Panama remains closed indefinitely.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EsCE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80bdca89-ce03-4d4f-90b2-13b43c1e1122_1545x609.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EsCE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F80bdca89-ce03-4d4f-90b2-13b43c1e1122_1545x609.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(FNV started trading on the NYSE in 2011 at around a 15x EV/EBITDA)</em></p><p>.</p><p>Since 2013 to today, FNV stock has traded around the current EV/EBITDA multiple in only 15 of the past 49 quarters (30% of all past quarters since the US listing), with most of those instances occurring around FNV&#8217;s initial US listing period.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SskU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb3f5706b-f123-4d47-9e5f-e39ce1b19832_2048x1136.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SskU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb3f5706b-f123-4d47-9e5f-e39ce1b19832_2048x1136.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SskU!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb3f5706b-f123-4d47-9e5f-e39ce1b19832_2048x1136.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SskU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb3f5706b-f123-4d47-9e5f-e39ce1b19832_2048x1136.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SskU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb3f5706b-f123-4d47-9e5f-e39ce1b19832_2048x1136.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>FQM&#8217;s first deliveries to FNV from Cobre Panama where in the 2nd half of 2019. Protests and blockades to the site started in October 2023, (<a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/first-quantum-cuts-ore-processing-amid-port-blockades-2023-11-13/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/first-quantum-cuts-ore-processing-amid-port-blockades-2023-11-13/</a>). The dip in 2022 seems to have corresponded with declining gold prices from 2020 to the end of 2022. </em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-34" href="#footnote-34" target="_self">34</a>)</p><p>Relative to the price of gold, FNV shares are cheaper than they&#8217;ve been since 2018, the year before the Cobre mine started deliveries to Franco Nevada (for a more solid reference point, one would need to look further back to 2016). You if you had a 1oz gold bar, you could trade it for slightly more shares of FNV today than you could have during the March depths of the 2020 COVID pandemic. (Note that I wouldn&#8217;t do this kind of simplistic comparison for a gold miner or some other business further down the gold industry value-chain, but &#8212;as I mentioned earlier&#8212; FNV is basically just a big buried vault of gold with very little opex or (maintenance) capex that just monetizes it&#8217;s &#8220;vault&#8221; over time, so I don&#8217;t the comparison here with gold bars is missing <em>too much</em> nuance).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4cgW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F02893112-04b6-43cb-91e9-99d5c72935f9_2048x870.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(Gold price <a href="https://www.macrotrends.net/1333/historical-gold-prices-100-year-chart">used here</a> is the inflation adjusted end-of-year average closing price per oz for each year compared to quarterly FNV stock price; I couldn&#8217;t find more detailed gold data that I could line up with the quarterly prices)</em>.</p><h1>Cobre Panama</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5h6S!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcfbca919-2598-4e78-8cf8-9cec6c3d0d65_808x367.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5h6S!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcfbca919-2598-4e78-8cf8-9cec6c3d0d65_808x367.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5h6S!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcfbca919-2598-4e78-8cf8-9cec6c3d0d65_808x367.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5h6S!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcfbca919-2598-4e78-8cf8-9cec6c3d0d65_808x367.png 1272w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://franco-nevada.relayto.com/e/2023-asset-handbook-fokmo6c7tstte/bFfSCruV38">https://franco-nevada.relayto.com/e/2023-asset-handbook-fokmo6c7tstte/bFfSCruV38</a>; Cobre Panama)</em></p><p>The recent events around the Cobre Panama site have caused FNV stock to fall ~22% which, just for a sense of scale (noting the Cobre drawdown is not itself a peak-to-trough one), would put it among the top 10 of the stock&#8217;s worst peak-to-trough drawdowns in the stock&#8217;s history <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-35" href="#footnote-35" target="_self">35</a>. FNV is now trading below it&#8217;s March 2020 COVID19 EV/EBITDA lows and below where it traded in the year that the Cobre Panama project first started making actual deliveries to FNV (in July 2019).</p><p>Cobre Panama is the one of the world&#8217;s largest copper mines <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-36" href="#footnote-36" target="_self">36</a> and is the largest copper mine in Central America accounting, for 1.5% of global production of the metal <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-37" href="#footnote-37" target="_self">37</a>. From the 2022 annual report, Cobre Panama makes up just 5% of FNV&#8217;s total estimated gold mineral reserves, but around 41% of FNV&#8217;s total silver mineral reserves <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-38" href="#footnote-38" target="_self">38</a>. The Cobre Panama deal with FNV was initially struck in late 2012, but only started producing in 2H2019 <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-39" href="#footnote-39" target="_self">39</a> &#8212;giving one a sense of how long it can take a copper mining project to go from planning, to construction, to production. </p><p>.</p><p>The original deal documents and subsequent incremental deals with Cobre Panama mine interests can be found here in addition to more recent summaries from FNV&#8217;s 2022 annual report and Asset Handbook published in April 2023: </p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000110465912058881/0001104659-12-058881-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000110465912058881/0001104659-12-058881-index.html</a> (August&nbsp;20, 2012, initial press release); </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000110465912061432/0001104659-12-061432-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000110465912061432/0001104659-12-061432-index.html</a> (Official SEDAR copy of FNV&#8217;s purchase and sale agreement for the Cobre stream, see attachment EX-99.2); </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837017006974/0001558370-17-006974-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837017006974/0001558370-17-006974-index.html</a> (2017 incremental deal w/ FQM);  </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837018000174/0001558370-18-000174-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837018000174/0001558370-18-000174-index.html</a> (2018 incremental deal w/ KORES); </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d1.htm#COBREPANAMAMININGANDTECHNICALINFORMATION">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d1.htm#COBREPANAMAMININGANDTECHNICALINFORMATION</a>; </p></li><li><p><a href="https://franco-nevada.relayto.com/e/2023-asset-handbook-fokmo6c7tstte">https://franco-nevada.relayto.com/e/2023-asset-handbook-fokmo6c7tstte</a> (FNV&#8217;s April 2023 Asset Handbook, see &#8220;<em>Precious Metals: Central America and Mexico</em>&#8221;)</p></li></ul><p>.</p><p>FNV&#8217;s streaming deal for Cobre lasts until 2057 and automatically extends in successive 10yr increments for as long as there are active mineral exploration or development operations on the site. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-40" href="#footnote-40" target="_self">40</a></p><p>&#8220;<em>Franco-Nevada has two precious metals streams with slightly different terms:</em></p><p><em>&#8226; Fixed Payment Stream &#8211; Effective since 2015 and applies to First Quantum&#8217;s original 80% interest in Cobre Panama. [&#8230;] As of November 2022, the current ongoing payment of the Fixed Payment Stream is fixed per ounce payments of $450.59/oz gold and $6.76/oz silver with a 1.5% annual inflation factor.</em></p><p><em>&#8226; Floating Payment Stream &#8211; Effective March 2018, Franco-Nevada (Barbados) Corporation added a new precious metals stream which increased its coverage to 100% of the ownership of the Cobre Panama operation. The Floating Payment Stream applies to First Quantum&#8217;s 10% indirect interest acquired from LS-Nikko Copper Inc. and KOMIR&#8217;s 10% indirect interest. 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x8BH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe05ac15-2e6e-435d-8bd0-63afa99d7130_893x205.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x8BH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe05ac15-2e6e-435d-8bd0-63afa99d7130_893x205.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x8BH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbe05ac15-2e6e-435d-8bd0-63afa99d7130_893x205.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837018000174/ex-99d1.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837018000174/ex-99d1.htm</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>One can read the articles-2 and -3 of the <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000110465912061432/a12-19631_1ex99d2.htm">original purchase agreement</a> between FNV and Inmet for more details (if you click the link, just keep in mind that luxco1, luxco2, and IFC are all just Inmet subsidiaries and everything should be <em>relatively</em> easy to read from there).</p><p>.</p><p>Rather than reproduce what has already been written on this issue, a pretty succinct history the Cobre Panama issues between FQM/MPSA and the Panamanian government from 1996 up to around March 2023 can be found in the 2022 annual reports from FQM <strong>here</strong> (<a href="https://s24.q4cdn.com/821689673/files/doc_financials/2022/q4/Q4-2022-FQM-Management's-Discussion-Analysis-FINAL.pdf">https://s24.q4cdn.com/821689673/files/doc_financials/2022/q4/Q4-2022-FQM-Management's-Discussion-Analysis-FINAL.pdf</a>, see &#8220;<em>Supreme Court of Panam&#225; Proceedings</em>&#8221;; <a href="https://s24.q4cdn.com/821689673/files/doc_downloads/2022-annual-report/AIF-2023-FINAL.pdf">https://s24.q4cdn.com/821689673/files/doc_downloads/2022-annual-report/AIF-2023-FINAL.pdf</a>, see &#8220;<em>Cobre Panam&#225;</em>&#8221; (or &#8220;<em>Supreme Court Ruling on the Constitutionality of Law 9</em>&#8221;)) and from FNV <strong>here</strong><em> (</em><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023003927/0001558370-23-003927-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023003927/0001558370-23-003927-index.html</a>, EX-99.1, &#8220;<em>Portfolio Updates</em>&#8221;). <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-41" href="#footnote-41" target="_self">41</a></p><p>For the issues as they occurred in 2023, here is a timeline of events after the initial suspension order from the Panama government in late 2022:</p><ul><li><p>On January 26, 2023, the Panama Maritime Authority (the &#8220;AMP&#8221;) issued a resolution that required the suspension of concentrate loading operations at the Cobre Panama port, Punta Rinc&#243;n. </p></li><li><p>On February 23, 2023, as a result of the AMP&#8217;s refusal to permit copper concentrate loading operations at the port, FQM subsidiary MPSA suspended ore processing operations at Cobre. FQM initiated legal action alleging Panama was violating the existing contract. Operations were temporarily halted in Q1 2023 during the dispute.</p></li><li><p>March 8, 2023, FQM announced that MPSA has agreed and finalized the draft of a [new] concession contract (the "Proposed Concession Contract") with the GOP for the Cobre Panama mine. The Proposed Concession Contract would have an initial 20-year term, with a 20-year extension option and additional extensions for the life of mine. The Proposed Concession Contract was subject to a 30-day public consultation process and approvals by the Panamanian Cabinet, Comptroller General of the Republic and the National Assembly. MPSA received authorization from the Panama Maritime Authority and concentrate loading operations at the Punta Rinc&#243;n port resumed to normal levels, with MPSA remobilizing workforce to full staffing levels. </p></li><li><p>The Refreshed Concession Contract provides for an initial 20-year term with a 20-year extension option and additional extensions for life of mine. The Refreshed Concession Contract is expected to be presented before the National Assembly of Panama in the legislative term that commences on July 1, 2023, after having gone through a public consultation process and receipt of all required prior governmental approvals. The Refreshed Concession Contract was subject to a public consultation process that started on March 24, 2023. During this period, the Refreshed Concession Contract was made available to the general public in Panama through an online platform for a 30-day period. The GOP, with participation of First Quantum, held three open forums in surrounding communities, with the last one occurring on Monday April 24, 2023. The forums were attended by citizens of the Republic of Panama and they received direct and in-person explanations of the Refreshed Concession Contract from the GOP, led by the Ministry of Commerce and Industries (&#8220;MICI&#8221;). The principal economic terms of the Refreshed Concession Contract are set out in First Quantum&#8217;s Management Discussion and Analysis for the three months ended March 31, 2023. (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023007701/0001558370-23-007701-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023007701/0001558370-23-007701-index.html</a>, EX-99.2, &#8220;<em>Portfolio Updates</em>&#8221;)</p></li><li><p>The Company and Panama agreed to a new Concession Agreement contract in March 2023 which, following due public consultation and regulatory signoff, was <strong>approved by contract law 406 by the National Assembly on October 20, 2023</strong> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-42" href="#footnote-42" target="_self">42</a>.</p></li><li><p>But this was not the end of the drama and the new concession agreement quickly led to large and disruptive protests across Panama <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-43" href="#footnote-43" target="_self">43</a>. </p></li><li><p>On October 29, spurred by public protests led by the Panama&#8217;s largest construction union (SUNTRACS), educators (ASOPROF union), indigenous groups, and young activists calling for the revocation of the mining contract, <strong>Panama&#8217;s President then called for a referendum on the contract</strong> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-44" href="#footnote-44" target="_self">44</a>. <strong>Panama&#8217;s Supreme Court admitted several lawsuits challenging the constitutionality of Law 406</strong> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-45" href="#footnote-45" target="_self">45</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!K7IG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42c63288-9672-4812-ad08-dcf59f6160aa_585x402.png" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">A very interesting thought, <a href="https://x.com/YellowLabLife/status/1719043194334109922?s=20">https://x.com/YellowLabLife/status/1719043194334109922?s=20</a>; I believe that FQM&#8217;s mining union is Utramipa (<a href="https://www.bnamericas.com/en/news/cobre-panama-urges-govt-to-draw-up-roadmap-for-workers">https://www.bnamericas.com/en/news/cobre-panama-urges-govt-to-draw-up-roadmap-for-workers</a>)</figcaption></figure></div><ul><li><p>I&#8217;d note that the US International Trade Administration cited corruption as Panama&#8217;s biggest challenge in 2023. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-46" href="#footnote-46" target="_self">46</a> </p></li></ul></li><li><p>SUNTRACS members faced retaliation by the Panama government and some members had their bank accounts frozen. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-47" href="#footnote-47" target="_self">47</a></p></li><li><p>November 20 2023: FQM reports that &#8220;<em>MPSA, in accordance with its contractual obligations to the Republic of Panama, made a tax and royalty payment on November 16, 2023 of $567 million in respect of the period from December 2021 to October 2023. This <strong>payment is one of the largest ever tax and royalty payments in the history of the global copper mining sector and is the largest fiscal payment ever made in Panama.</strong></em>&#8221; <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-48" href="#footnote-48" target="_self">48</a></p></li><li><p>November 28 2023: &#8220;<em>Panama&#8217;s Supreme Court unanimously held Tuesday that the 20-year concession for the Canadian Cobre Panam&#225; copper mine was unconstitutional.</em></p><p><em>In its judgement, <strong>the courts found that Law 406 of October 20, 2023, which granted the mining concession to Minera Panama, the Panamanian subsidiary of Canadian First Quantum Minerals, was unconstitutional and struck down the entire law</strong>. The law would have created a new 20-year contract for First Quantum&#8217;s Cobre Panam&#225; mine. Canadian First Quantum acknowledged the judgement.</em>&#8221; <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-49" href="#footnote-49" target="_self">49</a></p></li><li><p>December 1, FQM initiates international arbitration following the court ruling <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-50" href="#footnote-50" target="_self">50</a>.</p></li><li><p><strong>In December, Panama started the process for Canadian miner First Quantum&#8217;s Cobre Panama mine&#8217;s &#8220;definitive&#8221; closure</strong> following the official notification for the miner to end operations. FQM claims that no legal basis for pursuing a closure plan was provided to them. &#8220;<em>To date, MPSA has been unable to engage formally with the Government to clarify the legal situation and associated environmental obligations.</em>&#8221; <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-51" href="#footnote-51" target="_self">51</a></p></li><li><p>Jan 3 2024, Utramipa, the union representing workers at Cobre Panama warned of Suntracs&#8217; plan to invade the site. Utramipa requested government support to protect the site, citing past incidents of violence and potential environmental risks. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-52" href="#footnote-52" target="_self">52</a></p></li><li><p><strong>Jan 15, 2024: FQM cuts spending, pauses dividend, and puts smaller mines up for sale in effort to free up cash to as they deal with the Cobre situation. </strong>Cobre Panama accounted for around 50% of FQM's in 2022. With the mine now closed, credit rating agency Fitch Ratings believes that, while FQM will be able to cover all capex, interest payments, and maturities due in 2024, <strong>they will not have sufficient liquidity to repay its USD1.05 billion bond ahead of its due date in April 2025</strong>, without obtaining refinancing in some form, even after budget trimming and potential equity stake disposals. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-53" href="#footnote-53" target="_self">53</a></p></li></ul><p>.</p><p>Even actor Leonardo DiCaprio lent his weight to the anti-mining movement and reposted this video in support of the protests on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Czyr-WIu_Md/">his Instagram account</a>:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>First Quantum was founded in 1983 under the name Xenium Resources and,</em> <em>despite the 2007 Canadian IPO, FNV was actually founded by Lassonde and Schulich in that same year, making both companies well over 25 years old. Why, then, why is Leonardo DiCaprio trying to screw them?</em>) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-54" href="#footnote-54" target="_self">54</a></p><p>.</p><p>Worst case scenario, IMO, the Cobre mine remains closed and you&#8217;ve ended up paying fair value for the stock at today&#8217;s prices. Though, I&#8217;d still expect some additional selling from current holdouts in the event that no resolution is reached for the Cobre/FQM situation by the start of June 2024 <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-55" href="#footnote-55" target="_self">55</a>, the month when the Panamanian government is expected to publish their official mine closure plan, as people get hit with the &#8220;<em>oh damn, it&#8217;s really happening</em>&#8221; feeling. </p><p>On the other hand, copper exports from the shuttered Cobre mine accounted for 5% of Panama&#8217;s GDP in 2023 and were projected to be the government&#8217;s largest source of revenue just behind the Panama Canal (which accounts for 6.5% of Panama&#8217;s GDP) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-56" href="#footnote-56" target="_self">56</a>. </p><p>By the way, the revenue generation from the canal is also expected to face issues going forward. &#8220;El Nino&#8221; events in eastern Pacific Ocean (which cause reduced rainfall for Panama&#8217;s lake systems) have been lasting longer due to climate change<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-57" href="#footnote-57" target="_self">57</a>, causing longer dry seasons for Panama lake systems (currently causing the worst drought 70 years)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-58" href="#footnote-58" target="_self">58</a>, resulting in limited water supply to move ships through the Panama Canal&#8217;s lock system, causing less total throughput (less ships and less cargo per ship), which ultimately results in less revenues generated from the canal <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-59" href="#footnote-59" target="_self">59</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-60" href="#footnote-60" target="_self">60</a>. Any long-term solutions to address the issues with the canal are going to require a lot of money to get done. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-61" href="#footnote-61" target="_self">61</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_e_C!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68b5f31b-913a-4653-8e43-0e6e28373a70_960x436.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_e_C!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68b5f31b-913a-4653-8e43-0e6e28373a70_960x436.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_e_C!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68b5f31b-913a-4653-8e43-0e6e28373a70_960x436.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_e_C!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68b5f31b-913a-4653-8e43-0e6e28373a70_960x436.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_e_C!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68b5f31b-913a-4653-8e43-0e6e28373a70_960x436.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_e_C!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68b5f31b-913a-4653-8e43-0e6e28373a70_960x436.gif" width="960" height="436" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/68b5f31b-913a-4653-8e43-0e6e28373a70_960x436.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:436,&quot;width&quot;:960,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;One of the largest and most difficult engineering projects ever undertaken,  the Panama Canal shortcut greatly reduces the time for ships to travel  between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans : r/educationalgifs&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="One of the largest and most difficult engineering projects ever undertaken,  the Panama Canal shortcut greatly reduces the time for ships to travel  between the 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_e_C!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F68b5f31b-913a-4653-8e43-0e6e28373a70_960x436.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/educationalgifs/comments/11gvoby/one_of_the_largest_and_most_difficult_engineering/">https://www.reddit.com/r/educationalgifs/comments/11gvoby/one_of_the_largest_and_most_difficult_engineering/</a></em>)</p><p>Given these issues, the revenues forfeited from keeping Cobre Panama closed should be in even greater focus for Panama&#8217;s government.</p><p>.</p><p>In a similar vein, one could argue that there is an added element of counter-cyclicality upside to an investment in FNV from the angle that a global recession in 2024 could push the Panamanian government to re-evaluate the importance of keeping Cobre up and running and those government royalties coming in.</p><p>.</p><p>I think that the FNV stock is currently priced as if the mine closure is permanent. From this POV, the stock is trading at about fair value and you&#8217;re getting the free call option on a positive surprise in the Cobre situation. IMO, there will be a new deal for the mine to reopen &#8212;and sooner rather than later. From this POV, the stock is trading at around a 20-25% margin of safety &#8212;not life changing, but an attractive time to build a position in in the king of gold royalties.</p><h1>Valuation</h1><p>I think this situation with Cobre is likely fully priced in now. The gold/silver royalty stream accounted for 18% of FNV&#8217;s revenues in 2021 and 17% of 2022 revenues <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-62" href="#footnote-62" target="_self">62</a>. The stock has since fallen a commensurate 22.5% at the time of my writing this. (<em>I know I&#8217;m saying &#8220;commensurate&#8221; even though I&#8217;m pointing at topline figures as a proxy for how the stock price should move, but again keep in mind that FNV&#8217;s EBITDA margins are around 80%-85%, with no/negligible debt, and the vast majority of their &#8220;capex&#8221; simply being from funding new royalty deals. So, I think that EBITDA is a fine proxy for FNV&#8217;s discretionary free cashflow here and thus a not-too-crazy proxy for how the stock price should move</em>). </p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20241218: &#8220;We&#8217;re very hopeful that the mine will return to operation, and it is -- has the potential to be a tremendous contributor to us. If and when it comes back at its full operating rate, that would be roughly a 30% increase in our GEOs and revenues. So we still believe it's a tremendously valuable asset. I think the full value of it has been taken out of our stock. So I think the -- probably the best optionality you can get in the royalty industry today is a free option on Cobre Panama coming back online.&#8221; ~~~ Paul Brink, FNV CEO, FY2024Q3 earnings call</em> **********</p><p>.</p><p>Assuming the Cobre Panama reopens, I&#8217;d expect cashflows from operations to basically end up around the same as 2022. Using LTM<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-63" href="#footnote-63" target="_self">63</a> CFFO/sh of ($987MM/192.12MMsh=)$5.14/sh (as opposed to FCF/sh which subtracts capex which, as I mentioned earlier, should really be labeled as &#8220;investing activities&#8221; for FNV) and 2020-2022 CFFO CAGR of 11.5% (to account for the ramp up in Cobre Panama operations that started stream deliveries to FNV in 2H2019), we can use a simple DCF model to get a value of $135 (a 25% upside)&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ke8z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc05f8239-b3ba-4435-8796-1f2dc4bfe4c5_853x405.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.gurufocus.com/stock/FNV/dcf">https://www.gurufocus.com/stock/FNV/dcf</a>; I assume an Re=7% and Rf=5% in the model. Note this Rf is based on money market yields (~5%) rather than 10yr UST yields (~4%), so the value could actually be somewhat higher.</em>)</p><p>&#8230; which is not too far from the average price of $140 that FNV stock traded at starting at the beginning of the first Cobre Panama stream deliveries in 2019 (skipping forward to after the March 2020 lows due to the global COVID19 panic) until the October 2023 shutdown of the Cobre mine, so I think using CFFO is somewhat validated here.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l1rq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4414da60-f15f-48fd-8473-8041f724bdce_1547x604.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(Note also that the mean analyst estimate for FNV&#8217;s 2024 CFFO is $1034.36MM which, at current shares outstanding, would imply a 2024 CFFO/sh of $5.38; slightly higher than the estimate I use above).</p><p>The FNV Q4 results should be released in March, but in the meantime we can get an estimate for what 2023Q4 revenues are going to look like in light of the Cobre shut down by looking at its contributions to FNV&#8217;s revenues in the past 3 quarters of 2023 (see the 2nd attachment to each quarterly filing (EX-99.2) and search &#8220;<em>Revenue By Asset</em>&#8221;): </p><p>Q1 <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023007701/0001558370-23-007701-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023007701/0001558370-23-007701-index.html</a> ($54.5 from Cobre, $276.3 total) </p><p>Q2 <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023014003/0001558370-23-014003-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023014003/0001558370-23-014003-index.html</a> ($71.7 from Cobre, $329.9 total) </p><p>Q3 <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023018351/0001558370-23-018351-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023018351/0001558370-23-018351-index.html</a> ($67.3 from Cobre, $309.5 total)</p><p>Ignoring the changing price of gold (which bounced around a range of $1800-$2025 per oz in 2023), we can get a rough Q4 estimate by taking the average total revenues less the average Cobre contribution&#8230;</p><p>==&gt; 2023Q4 revenue = avg(276.3,329.9,309.5) - avg(54.5,71.7,67.3) = $240.73MM w/out Cobre</p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20240308: With FNV&#8217;s Q4 numbers now released (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837024002504/0001558370-24-002504-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837024002504/0001558370-24-002504-index.html</a>), we can see this Q4 revenue estimate turned out to be a bit pessimistic (with actual Q4 revenues coming in at around 26% above the rough estimate I used here).</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkCH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe2b6b872-9b31-4598-8593-83d9808d5a5c_1373x196.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>********** </p><p>With this, we can use the assumptions below to see what FNV might look like if Cobre Panama were to remain closed indefinitely:</p><p>2019 CFFO margin = 617.70/841.70 = 73%</p><p>Estimated 2023Q4 revenue = $240.73MM </p><p>==&gt; 2024 run rate w/out Cobre = ($240.73MM*4) = $962.92MM </p><p>==&gt; Estimated 2024 CFFO = $962.92MM * 0.73 = $702.93MM</p><p>==&gt; 2024 CFFO/sh = $702.93MM/192.12MMsh = $3.66/sh</p><p>Using a 2013-2018 CFFO CAGR of 11.3% to ignore growth from the Cobre mine streaming deliveries in 2019 and onward, we get a simple DCF model of about $105/sh for FNV&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FTkS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F63436270-97d5-48c3-a755-6e1ba5722d07_847x402.png" 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Note this Rf is based on money market yields (~5%) rather than 10yr UST yields (~4%), so the value could actually be somewhat higher.</em>)</p><p>&#8230; which is pretty close to current prices (and around where it traded in early 2020 when the Cobre stream deliveries had only just begun), indicating to me that the stock is essentially fully discounting Cobre Panama ever opening again &#8212;and that if that were the case, what you&#8217;re paying right now is basically just around fair value.</p><p>.</p><p><em>*UPDATE 20240327: This little section is actually an update after being inspired to play around with this idea of looking at multiple-implied expected growth rates from a snippet of the Made In Japan post <a href="https://madeinjapan.substack.com/p/book-summary-our-investing-strategy">here</a>, but I&#8217;m not formatting in the way I normally do for updates as to avoid visual clutter, since already a bit cluttered with the equations. (Note I am using number as they were on Feb 2, 2024).</em></p><p>Looking at the terminal value formula (<a href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/financial-modeling/dcf-terminal-value-formula/">https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/financial-modeling/dcf-terminal-value-formula/</a>)&#8230;</p><p>TV = (FCFn * (1+g)) / (WACC - g)</p><p>&#8230; we can use the risk-free rate (Effective Fed Funds Rate) for WACC, call it <strong>r</strong>, and replace FCFn with whatever other profit value measure, <strong>E</strong>, we think is most appropriate for the business and solve for <strong>TV/E</strong> (using an appropriate corresponding TV value metric for E, eg. EnterpriseValue/FCFF or Marketcap/FCFE), lets call this ratio <strong>m(=TV/E)</strong> for &#8220;valuation multiple&#8221;, to get an idea of what kind of valuation multiple FNV should (theoretically) be trading at given a particular (perpetual) growth rate or vice versa:</p><p>m = (1 + g)/(r - g), solving for g, we have g = (m*r - 1)/(1 + m).</p><p>Taking my presumed 2024 ex-Cobre run-rate CFFO of $962.92MM and FNV&#8217;s current EV of $25982MM, we get a forward 2024 EV/CFFO multiple of around 27x. With an EFFR=5%, this implies a priced in CFFO growth of 1.25%. So basically, from this POV, the market expects longterm growth from here to basically be zero; I think this is overly pessimistic and, again, not considering the possibility of Cobre Panama ever reopening. (Note that for the preceding ten years from 2008 to 2018, right before Cobre deliveries started being received in late 2019, FNV&#8217;s CFFO/sh CAGR was 8.86%).</p><p>The question(s) to ask when looking at if this much lower implied long-term growth rate is justified is: &#8220;<em>Has anything about FNV&#8217;s business fundamentally changed?</em>&#8221; and/or &#8220;<em>is Cobre never re-opening?</em>&#8221; I think the answer in either case is no. </p><p>(Then again, maybe an implied terminal/<em>perpetual</em> growth rate of near zero is totally justified for a business like FNV that relies on making continual investments in what are ultimately &#8212;even factoring in the call optionality of new resource discoveries at a given location&#8212; <em>depleting</em> assets (ie. mining royalties and streams) and the limit).</p><p>.</p><p>(<em>There&#8217;s still some unknowns and, while I think the existing price is already fair, who knows how the market will react if the mine closure continues on and pushes FQM into a solvency crisis. There&#8217;s is also of course the issue of how gold prices are going to move, but I&#8217;m not even going to try to make any kind of prediction on that and will assume they remain relatively stable around current prices.</em>) <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-64" href="#footnote-64" target="_self">64</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-65" href="#footnote-65" target="_self">65</a></p><h1>Closing</h1><p>Some other thoughts when looking at the Cobre issue:</p><ul><li><p>The mine closure may present an opportunity for FNV to get a better deal with FQM if they come under enough financial stress while they work to get the mine operating again. I wonder if FQM&#8217;s capital issues due to the closure present an opportunity for FNV to provide some level of additional financing in exchange for a better royalty deal. </p><ul><li><p>&#8220;<em><strong>Cobre Panama is a key asset to the company accounting for around 50% of FQM's EBITDA and 45% of its copper production in 2022</strong>. [&#8230;] Fitch estimates a cash position of USD1.1 billion at end-2023 and EBITDA of USD1.9 million in 2024, which we believe will be sufficient to cover all capex, interest payments and maturities due in 2024. <strong>However, Fitch believes FQM will not have sufficient liquidity to repay its USD1.05 billion bond ahead of its due date in April 2025</strong>, without obtaining refinancing in some form, even after budget trimming and potential equity stake disposals.&#8221;</em> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-66" href="#footnote-66" target="_self">66</a></p></li><li><p>&#8220;<em><strong>Challenges, she [BMO&nbsp;analyst Jackie&nbsp;Przybylowski] added, would arise if Cobre Panama remained halted for 80 days in 2024 </strong>[March 21, 2024], as this would draw First Quantum&#8217;s cash down to zero at the bank&#8217;s current commodity and cash outflow assumptions. [&#8230;] The primary goal of the government and courts today appears to be calming the protests [&#8230;] <strong>We are optimistic that this approach will be successful, and that protests around the Cobre Panama port will subside, with mining operations likely to resume relatively quickly if protests are lifted</strong>.</em>&#8221; <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-67" href="#footnote-67" target="_self">67</a></p></li><li><p>&#8220;<em>Franco-Nevada (Barbados) Corporation, a subsidiary of <strong>Franco-Nevada, contributed a total of $1.36 billion to the construction of Cobre Panama</strong>.</em>&#8221;, <a href="https://franco-nevada.relayto.com/e/2023-asset-handbook-fokmo6c7tstte">https://franco-nevada.relayto.com/e/2023-asset-handbook-fokmo6c7tstte</a></p></li></ul></li><li><p>Does FNV have a claim to any kind of reimbursement for their contribution towards Cobre&#8217;s development from the stream deals if the mine is ultimately closed? <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-68" href="#footnote-68" target="_self">68</a> I wonder if the government-ordered shut down falls within the Force Majeure considerations of the termination section (article 6.2) of the original Cobre stream <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000110465912061432/a12-19631_1ex99d2.htm">purchase agreement</a> (where their definition of Force Majeure is redacted) and how that affects the &#8220;<em>Repayment of Payment Deposit</em>&#8221; article (6.3) of the agreement. I&#8217;d look at articles &#8220;<em>3.1 Payment Deposit</em>&#8221; and &#8220;<em>11 Seller events of default</em>&#8221; for info on the situation of a possible default of FQM, as well as articles 2.4 and 2.5 re. Uncredited Balance.</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;<em>People seem to think that the supreme court decision will be the end of the matter, but it won't... Panama's exposure in international arbitration is massive [..] The <strong>country&#8217;s mining chamber head Zorel Morales set at a minimum $50 billion what the country would pay if it loses arbitration</strong>&#8230;</em>&#8221; <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-69" href="#footnote-69" target="_self">69</a>. Would FNV have a senior claim on that $50bn to get their $1bn deposit back from MPSA/FQM? </p></li><li><p>From the stream purchase agreement: &#8220;<em>Subject to Section 12.2, if by the expiry of the Initial Term or earlier termination of this Agreement, the <strong>Seller has not sold and delivered to the Purchaser an amount of Refined Gold or Refined Silver sufficient to reduce the Uncredited Balance to nil, then the Seller shall pay such Uncredited Balance to the Purchaser within 30 days after the termination date</strong>, and shall provide a detailed calculation of the Uncredited Balance.</em>&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Under the expropriation article (8.12) of the streaming agreement &#8220;<em><strong>Inmet Parties shall deliver to the Purchaser [Franco Nevada] the Purchaser&#8217;s proportionate share of any compensation received by the Seller</strong> or any of the Inmet Parties for such Expropriation within 30 days after receipt of such compensation by the Seller or any of the Inmet Parties, [Calculation and process provisions redacted].</em>&#8221; (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000110465912061432/a12-19631_1ex99d2.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000110465912061432/a12-19631_1ex99d2.htm</a>, article 8.12)</p></li></ul></li><li><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20240210: From FNV investor relations to a question I had asked about the possibility of FQM/ MPSA going bankrupt: &#8220;Franco-Nevada&#8217;s interest in Cobre Panama is secured by a pledge of the entity shares which owns Cobre Panama (MPSA). If First Quantum went bankrupt Franco-Nevada would have first right over the assets within that company.&#8221; This seems to be corroborated by the initial <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000110465912058881/a12-17442_2ex99d1.htm">press release</a> and <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000110465912061432/a12-19631_1ex99d2.htm">purchase agreement</a> between FNV and Inmet (before it was acquired by FQM). </em>**********</p></li><li><p>What happens to FNV&#8217;s streaming deal if FQM is taken over by Barrick Gold? &#8220;<em><strong>The crisis has drawn attention from rival Barrick Gold Corp.</strong>, which Bloomberg reported earlier this month has approached some of First Quantum&#8217;s top shareholders to gauge support for a potential takeover.</em>&#8221; <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-70" href="#footnote-70" target="_self">70</a>. Articles 8.8 and 8.9 of the original FNV Cobre agreement seem to indicate that Inmet cannot transfer the Cobre mine project without FNV&#8217;s approval and or alter the MPSA&#8217;s shareholder agreement in any way that affects FNV&#8217;s royalty stream. (<em>I&#8217;m mostly looking at articles 8.8(d), 8.8(e), and 8.9(f)</em>).</p></li><li><p>It&#8217;s possible that it&#8217;s better for the stream to be halted now and that gold remain buried, while geopolitical events continue apace and possibly raise gold prices, so FNV&#8217;s stream of precious metals can sell (be be credited) at even higher prices later. </p><ul><li><p>There is the possibility that the price of gold rises in the intervening time while the Cobre situation is worked out, thus making FNV&#8217;s Cobre Panama stream all the more valuable when the mine does eventually resume operations. FNV is missing out revenues from the mine closure, but it isn&#8217;t bleeding out servicing any liabilities like FQM is and can stand to wait around. Meanwhile, FQM has enough liquidity to make it to at least through Q1 2025 <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-71" href="#footnote-71" target="_self">71</a>.</p><ul><li><p>They say gold is more a hedge for political chaos than for inflation and elevated levels of political chaos seem to be well in the cards for the future&#8230; </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;bbe3ddea-c7aa-444c-8e5a-6dfe21a8e7ae&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;So, I just finished reading Zoltan Pozsar&#8217;s Bretton Woods 3.0 (BW3) follow-on articles &#8220;Money, Commodities, and Bretton Woods 3&#8221; (MC&amp;BW3) as well as &#8220;War and Industrial Policy&#8221; (W&amp;IP) and &#8212; while I have a few questions about the ultimate conclusions &#8212; wanted to make some quick notes&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;When prices get \&quot;real\&quot; and The Great Re-Everything'ing&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2022-09-24T13:38:13.907Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/h_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff499a7be-75b5-4358-a283-d8127f920add_700x419.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/when-prices-get-real-and-the-great&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:73665699,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div></li><li><p>&#8230; and 2024 also happens to be an election year for the world&#8217;s primary (arguably only) superpower.</p></li></ul></li></ul></li></ul><p>.</p><p>Potential outcomes:</p><ul><li><p>Cobre Panama remains closed indefinitely beyond 2024, in which case you&#8217;re simply paying fair value at today&#8217;s prices.</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;<em>Lawyers contacted by mining.com&nbsp;said both the Panamanian government and First Quantum are now in a &#8220;tricky spot&#8221; since Cortizo&#8217;s administration <a href="https://www.mining.com/breaking-panama-congress-revokes-first-quantums-mine-contract/">passed a bill on Nov. 2</a>&nbsp;banning all <strong>new</strong> mining concessions and extensions. That could prevent the two parties from negotiating a new deal.</em>&#8221; <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-72" href="#footnote-72" target="_self">72</a></p></li></ul></li><li><p>IMO, some way, some how, a deal with be renegotiated with FMQ with tweaks to deal with all stakeholders and operations will resume. Copper ore accounts for 75% of Panama&#8217;s exports and Cobre Panama accounted for 5% of GDP which I think will incentivize FMQ and the government to seek a compromise <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-73" href="#footnote-73" target="_self">73</a>. Whatever the compromise for FQM, I don&#8217;t see it affecting FNV&#8217;s streaming deal &#8212;as the renegotiated concession agreement with FQM and the Panama government in March 2023 did not affect FNV&#8217;s deal with FQM either. </p><ul><li><p>&#8220;<em>People seem to think that the supreme court decision will be the end of the matter, but it won't... Panama's exposure in international arbitration is massive [..] The <strong>country&#8217;s mining chamber head Zorel Morales set at a minimum $50 billion what the country would pay if it loses arbitration</strong>, and said uncertainty around First Quantum's project could also spook investors. J.P Morgan warned this month that <strong>the odds of Panama losing its investment-grade rating would rise significantly if the contract is revoked</strong>.</em>&#8221; (<a href="https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-11-26/panama-protesters-attack-workers-of-canadas-first-quantum-mine-union">https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-11-26/panama-protesters-attack-workers-of-canadas-first-quantum-mine-union</a>)</p><ul><li><p>The need for the revenues that the Cobre mine brings in for the Panama government is also likely emphasized by the issues with Panama&#8217;s other largest single source of government revenues, the Panama Canal. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-74" href="#footnote-74" target="_self">74</a></p></li></ul></li></ul></li><li><p>Ongoing uncertainty could persist until Panama's elections in May 2024. The mining contract will be a key issue political issue until then. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-75" href="#footnote-75" target="_self">75</a></p></li><li><p>First Quantum could seek compensation for Cobre&#8217;s closure based on commercial treaties between Panama and Canada? The company <a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/top-panama-court-rules-first-quantum-mining-contract-unconstitutional-2023-11-28/#:~:text=The%20company%20has%20spent%20about,billion%2C%20according%20to%20the%20company.&amp;text=Our%20Standards%3A%20The%20Thomson%20Reuters%20Trust%20Principles.">spent about $10 billion developing the Cobre mine</a>, which had accounted for almost half the company&#8217;s revenue. I&#8217;d expect FNV to at least get back their ~$1bn deposit from FQM that went towards Cobre&#8217;s construction. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-76" href="#footnote-76" target="_self">76</a> &#8220;<em>When does Cobre really &#8216;count&#8217; as being officially &#8216;permanently shut down&#8217;?</em>&#8221; is something that I think is going to be something to consider here re. the purchase agreement with FNV and FQM/MPSA &#8212;this will likely be something determinable when/if the Panamanian government releases an official closure plan in June 2024. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-77" href="#footnote-77" target="_self">77</a></p></li></ul><p>.</p><p>Dates of interest:</p><ul><li><p>February 24, 2024: This is 90 days after First Quantum sent Panamanian authorities a notification of intent to start international arbitration proceedings on November 26, 2023, which were &#8220;<em>a formality required by international treaties, with the purpose of opening a dialogue period of at least 90 days between the parties.</em>&#8221; <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-78" href="#footnote-78" target="_self">78</a>  </p></li><li><p>May 2024, Panama elections; after which there may be greater possibility for renegotiation between FQM and the new government if Cobre mine is still closed after this time. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-79" href="#footnote-79" target="_self">79</a></p></li><li><p>June 2024: This is ostensibly the expected date for the Panama government to present a formal closure plan for Cobre. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-80" href="#footnote-80" target="_self">80</a> </p></li><li><p>FQM debt due April 2025 <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-81" href="#footnote-81" target="_self">81</a></p></li></ul><h1>Catalysts</h1><ul><li><p>Positive resolution on Cobre Panama mine by 1H2024</p><ul><li><p>Not so much a catalyst, but something that could be interesting to keep an eye on, would be how FQM and the Panamanian government deals with the SUNTRACS union elements of the on-going protests.</p></li></ul></li><li><p>A renewed global interest/demand in/for natural resource projects and securing raw materials as a part of the global reconfiguration taking place should increase precious metals byproduct stream deal flow for FNV as more copper projects seek various forms of funding. Gold and silver is a common byproduct of copper mining, so a global elevation in demand for funding and securing of electrification- and green-technology inputs would simultaneously create more opportunities for FNV (and the others of the &#8216;big 3&#8217;) to acquire streaming royalties. <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-82" href="#footnote-82" target="_self">82</a> </p><ul><li><p></p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;75f85a74-25ed-46c1-aa7b-27f9c2c4b7b4&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;So, I just finished reading Zoltan Pozsar&#8217;s Bretton Woods 3.0 (BW3) follow-on articles &#8220;Money, Commodities, and Bretton Woods 3&#8221; (MC&amp;BW3) as well as &#8220;War and Industrial Policy&#8221; (W&amp;IP) and &#8212; while I have a few questions about the ultimate conclusions &#8212; wanted to make some quick notes&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;When prices get \&quot;real\&quot; and The Great Re-Everything'ing&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2022-09-24T13:38:13.907Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/h_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff499a7be-75b5-4358-a283-d8127f920add_700x419.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/when-prices-get-real-and-the-great&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:73665699,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div></li><li><p>An interesting XTwitter thread on copper from mining billionaire Robert Friedland: <a href="https://x.com/robert_ivanhoe/status/1724831201456951648?s=20">https://x.com/robert_ivanhoe/status/1724831201456951648?s=20</a>; <a href="https://x.com/robert_ivanhoe/status/1726694831114813796?s=20">https://x.com/robert_ivanhoe/status/1726694831114813796?s=20</a></p></li></ul></li><li><p>Fed pivot raising price of gold as real rates drop (I don&#8217;t think the Fed will, but if they did, gold and FNV would benefit).</p></li><li><p>Higher for longer rates would make debt financing less attractive to mining operators and could drive greater demand for alternative financing source like those provided by royalty companies like FNV in the long-run.</p></li></ul><p>.</p><p>Will you get rich quick by buying on this current weakness? Unlikely. Though, I really don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll go anywhere near broke either&#8230; Well, unless Bitcoin really does end up being the new consensus digital gold all the way up to the Central Banking level or gold bugs of the world revert back to some even more primitive form of money &#8212;I own both. (And at some point in the future, we may be mining asteroids and extracting gold from there as well, so there&#8217;s that next Spanish Price Revolution to consider <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-83" href="#footnote-83" target="_self">83</a>. There&#8217;s also the tail risk of the global warming causing previously-unexplorable terrain to be accessible and surveyed to revealed to have some massive gold deposit that crashed the price of gold.)</p><p>Will you be able to get exposure to the gold market with the most profitable business model in the industry with FNV? 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ndi8!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8aca9062-4cab-4c6b-afaf-0863b3ba9d05_600x800.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ndi8!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8aca9062-4cab-4c6b-afaf-0863b3ba9d05_600x800.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ndi8!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8aca9062-4cab-4c6b-afaf-0863b3ba9d05_600x800.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ndi8!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8aca9062-4cab-4c6b-afaf-0863b3ba9d05_600x800.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai_stones">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai_stones</a>; Money so safe you can leave it out for public display</em>)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LFp9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7ba4869-9f29-4618-80d8-1556518ff0de_900x675.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LFp9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7ba4869-9f29-4618-80d8-1556518ff0de_900x675.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LFp9!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7ba4869-9f29-4618-80d8-1556518ff0de_900x675.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LFp9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7ba4869-9f29-4618-80d8-1556518ff0de_900x675.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LFp9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7ba4869-9f29-4618-80d8-1556518ff0de_900x675.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LFp9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7ba4869-9f29-4618-80d8-1556518ff0de_900x675.jpeg" width="900" height="675" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d7ba4869-9f29-4618-80d8-1556518ff0de_900x675.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:675,&quot;width&quot;:900,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;The Ancient Bitcoin | Behold The Stone Money of Yap - OVEX Blog&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;The Ancient Bitcoin | Behold The Stone Money of Yap - OVEX Blog&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="The Ancient Bitcoin | Behold The Stone Money of Yap - OVEX Blog" title="The Ancient Bitcoin | Behold The Stone Money of Yap - OVEX Blog" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LFp9!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7ba4869-9f29-4618-80d8-1556518ff0de_900x675.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LFp9!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7ba4869-9f29-4618-80d8-1556518ff0de_900x675.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LFp9!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7ba4869-9f29-4618-80d8-1556518ff0de_900x675.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LFp9!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd7ba4869-9f29-4618-80d8-1556518ff0de_900x675.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.ovex.io/blog/behold-the-ancient-stone-money-of-yap/">https://www.ovex.io/blog/behold-the-ancient-stone-money-of-yap/</a>; One of the early iterations of the blockchain. &#8220;[T]he physical location of a stone was often not significant: ownership was established by shared agreement and could be transferred even without physical access to the stone. Each large stone had an oral history that included the names of previous owners.&#8221;, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai_stones#Use_and_value">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rai_stones#Use_and_value</a></em>)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQxF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b5c1ab-f480-42d2-9df4-a8e787f84d88_1722x495.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQxF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b5c1ab-f480-42d2-9df4-a8e787f84d88_1722x495.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQxF!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b5c1ab-f480-42d2-9df4-a8e787f84d88_1722x495.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQxF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b5c1ab-f480-42d2-9df4-a8e787f84d88_1722x495.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQxF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b5c1ab-f480-42d2-9df4-a8e787f84d88_1722x495.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQxF!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b5c1ab-f480-42d2-9df4-a8e787f84d88_1722x495.png" width="1200" height="345.3296703296703" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQxF!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b5c1ab-f480-42d2-9df4-a8e787f84d88_1722x495.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQxF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b5c1ab-f480-42d2-9df4-a8e787f84d88_1722x495.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qQxF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F33b5c1ab-f480-42d2-9df4-a8e787f84d88_1722x495.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.longtermtrends.net/bitcoin-vs-gold/">https://www.longtermtrends.net/bitcoin-vs-gold/</a></em>)</p><p>.</p><p>I&#8217;ve been accumulating shares by averaging in over time since the price hit USD$105/sh (as well as a de minmis amount of portfolio bps on LEAP call options).</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>In the case of hard assets, because of the optionality and the fact that you get the cash flow as a shareholder, you should always be buying them &#8212;unless the asset trades at some excessively elevated valuation. We&#8217;re buying a little bit every single day because we&#8217;re not going to pick the high point and low point. There are just too many variables involved. </strong>When you trade securities and you think that you know what the high point and low point is, bear in mind that there are 253 trading days in the year and only one high price for the year and only one low price for the year. Who knows what day that&#8217;s going to be reached? You&#8217;ve got a 1 out of 253 shot of being right and I don&#8217;t like those odds. Therefore, I basically buy every day. On the days when the price is really low, the cash that we spend has a lot more purchasing power. Over time&#8212;say it&#8217;s a form of dollar averaging&#8212;you get the harmonic mean price and it&#8217;s usually a good deal.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_Q2_FRMO_Transcript_Followup.pdf">Murray Stahl</a></p></blockquote><p>.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! You can subscribe for free to receive new posts in the future.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>.</p><h1>Random ramblings on gold&#8230;</h1><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Value is what people perceive it to be, and nothing more.</em>&#8221; ~~~ Michael E. Gerber, &#8220;The E-Myth Revisited&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>I wonder where gold falls within Maslow&#8217;s Hierarchy.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wgJS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b7caaec-aa09-4ed5-88ad-fd73fa9e5238_1200x900.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wgJS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b7caaec-aa09-4ed5-88ad-fd73fa9e5238_1200x900.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wgJS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b7caaec-aa09-4ed5-88ad-fd73fa9e5238_1200x900.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wgJS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b7caaec-aa09-4ed5-88ad-fd73fa9e5238_1200x900.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wgJS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b7caaec-aa09-4ed5-88ad-fd73fa9e5238_1200x900.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wgJS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b7caaec-aa09-4ed5-88ad-fd73fa9e5238_1200x900.png" width="454" height="340.5" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0b7caaec-aa09-4ed5-88ad-fd73fa9e5238_1200x900.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:900,&quot;width&quot;:1200,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:454,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Maslow &amp; Hill : Sunday Thoughts &#8211; Lino Matteo's Version&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Maslow &amp; Hill : Sunday Thoughts &#8211; Lino Matteo's Version" title="Maslow &amp; Hill : Sunday Thoughts &#8211; Lino Matteo's Version" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wgJS!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b7caaec-aa09-4ed5-88ad-fd73fa9e5238_1200x900.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wgJS!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b7caaec-aa09-4ed5-88ad-fd73fa9e5238_1200x900.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wgJS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b7caaec-aa09-4ed5-88ad-fd73fa9e5238_1200x900.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wgJS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b7caaec-aa09-4ed5-88ad-fd73fa9e5238_1200x900.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">source: <a href="https://www.embracerelief.org/maslows-theory-to-the-uns-sustainability-goals/">https://www.embracerelief.org/maslows-theory-to-the-uns-sustainability-goals/</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>IMO, it would somewhere in the 2nd level from the bottom (security of: property/resources).</p><p>.</p><p>From the Wheaton Precious Metals 2023Q3 presentation:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yDA_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0037679-8f3d-4a71-b810-b67f1f32f271_1683x922.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yDA_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0037679-8f3d-4a71-b810-b67f1f32f271_1683x922.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yDA_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0037679-8f3d-4a71-b810-b67f1f32f271_1683x922.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yDA_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0037679-8f3d-4a71-b810-b67f1f32f271_1683x922.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yDA_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0037679-8f3d-4a71-b810-b67f1f32f271_1683x922.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yDA_!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0037679-8f3d-4a71-b810-b67f1f32f271_1683x922.png" width="900" height="493.2692307692308" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f0037679-8f3d-4a71-b810-b67f1f32f271_1683x922.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:798,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:900,&quot;bytes&quot;:446124,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yDA_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0037679-8f3d-4a71-b810-b67f1f32f271_1683x922.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yDA_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0037679-8f3d-4a71-b810-b67f1f32f271_1683x922.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yDA_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0037679-8f3d-4a71-b810-b67f1f32f271_1683x922.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yDA_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff0037679-8f3d-4a71-b810-b67f1f32f271_1683x922.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://s21.q4cdn.com/266470217/files/doc_presentations/2024/Jan/31/24-2-1-february-corporate-presentation-final.pdf">https://s21.q4cdn.com/266470217/files/doc_presentations/2024/Jan/31/24-2-1-february-corporate-presentation-final.pdf</a>; <a href="https://www.wheatonpm.com/Investors/presentations/default.aspx">https://www.wheatonpm.com/Investors/presentations/default.aspx</a></em>)</p><p>.</p><p>IMO gold is at best a static speculative inflation and political-chaos hedging commodity, but one that has a market historically supported on the back of a global consensus spanning across many different cultures and eras of civilization <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-84" href="#footnote-84" target="_self">84</a>; a global consensus that has show its great Lindy-ness and is still engaged in today by individual investors all the way up to the level of world&#8217;s central banks <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-85" href="#footnote-85" target="_self">85</a>. </p><p>I find Warren Buffett&#8217;s thoughts on gold vs productive assets (from Berkshire&#8217;s 2011 annual letter) pretty convincing in this debate: </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Ideally, these assets should have the ability in inflationary times to deliver output that will retain its purchasing-power value while requiring a minimum of new capital investment. Farms, real estate, and many businesses such as Coca-Cola, IBM and our own See&#8217;s Candy meet that double-barreled test. Certain other companies &#8212; think of our regulated utilities, for example &#8212; fail it because inflation places heavy capital requirements on them. To earn more, their owners must invest more. <strong>Even so, these investments will remain superior to nonproductive or currency-based assets. Whether the currency a century from now is based on gold, seashells, shark teeth, or a piece of paper (as today), people will be willing to exchange a couple of minutes of their daily labor for a Coca-Cola or some See&#8217;s peanut brittle</strong>. In the future the U.S. population will move more goods, consume more food, and require more living space than it does now. <strong>People will forever exchange what they produce for what others produce</strong>.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/2011ltr.pdf">https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/2011ltr.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p>At the very least, one could look at gold like another form of currency that competes with any other. It&#8217;s a currency that lacks an interest rate (which might not be so bad when real rates on other currencies are negative), but also one that has no central controls over its supply &#8212;currently being generally fixed/capped with regards to the total naturally occurring supply on earth&#8212; and its transmission.</p><p>If you&#8217;re thinking this sounds a lot like Bitcoin &#8212;or its aspirations&#8212; I say: <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/135459053/two-kinds-of-profitability-if-youre-going-to-go-outside-the-system-stay-out; https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/64709954/stahls-stance-on-bitcoin">Yeah, kinda</a>.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>The paintings that he sold became more than just paintings &#8212;they were fetish objects, their value increased by their rarity. [&#8230;] He watched their doubts about the prices of the art evolving into more acute doubts about whether he would let them buy it.</em>&#8221; ~~~ from <a href="https://thefortyeightlawsofpower-blog.tumblr.com/post/163465209947/law-16-use-absence-to-increase-respect-and">Robert Greene&#8217;s</a> &#8220;<em><a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_48_Laws_Of_Power/P_zMW3EHnTEC?hl=en&amp;gbpv=1&amp;dq=%22The+paintings+that+he+sold+became+more+than+just+paintings%E2%80%94they+were+fetish+objects,+their+value+increased+by+their+rarity.%22&amp;pg=PA120&amp;printsec=frontcover">48 Laws of Power</a></em>&#8221; and S. N. Behrman&#8217;s &#8220;<em><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1951/09/29/the-days-of-duveen">The Days of Duveen</a></em>&#8221; (after listening to David Senra&#8217;s &#8220;<em><a href="https://founders.simplecast.com/episodes/339-joseph-duveen-robber-baron-art-dealer">Founder&#8217;s</a></em>&#8221;) </p></blockquote><p>.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>To me, it&#8217;s a dispute with no purpose, because gold can never be a substitute for bitcoin, and bitcoin can never be a substitute for gold. You could say that they&#8217;re both stores of value. I think that&#8217;s fair. But they are stores of value for entirely different contingencies.</em></p><p><em>For example, <strong>if you&#8217;re worried about conventional inflation, no matter what rate you forecast, I think crypto is superior to gold</strong>. The reason is that if gold prices rise to a certain level and the technology of mining gold improves, theoretically, it&#8217;s possible to extract more gold, and history certainly confirms that behavior. If gold is used as a form of money, you could actually get a form of debasement with gold, even though it&#8217;s not through a centralized authority.</em></p><p><em>In classical inflation, cryptocurrency&#8212;perhaps bitcoin&#8212;is the winner. However, gold is also a store of value in an entirely different contingency. Let&#8217;s say we had a situation in the world akin to the Second World War&#8212;some type global conflict. Cryptocurrency is dependent upon the internet. The internet can&#8217;t exist without telecommunications cooperation among all the countries in the world. If you really believed there was something analogous to World War II happening, how would you be able to move your currency? You wouldn&#8217;t be able to do it. Gold had the faculty that you could hide it, you could disguise it, you could bury it. In the necessary circumstances, you could move it to a neutral country like Switzerland, for example. <strong>If you believed there was going to be some serious political unrest in the world, I wouldn&#8217;t recommend buying cryptocurrency; I&#8217;d recommend you buy gold</strong>. </em></p><p><em>We don&#8217;t know if we&#8217;ll have classical inflation, or whether we will just have continual debasement at the current rate. We don&#8217;t know if we&#8217;ll have a serious political problem or not. <strong>Logically, you want to prepare for all contingencies and, therefore, I would say gold is complementary to bitcoin, and bitcoin is complementary to gold. It&#8217;s not either-or.</strong></em>&#8221; ~~~ Murray Stahl, <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2019_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2019_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20241219: On the complementary nature of gold vs Bitcoin, I was recently reading a paper examining Bitcoin as an inflation hedge (<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8995501/#abs0002">https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8995501/#abs0002</a>). One of the things they look at is Bitcoin price vs gold price impulses in response to positive shocks in various other macro variables from 2010 to the end of 2020. What we see is that Bitcoin and gold act nearly exactly opposite in response to these various variable shocks, with Bitcoin acting as a hedge against expected- and realized-inflation shocks (latter not shown in the chart below) and gold (implicitly) acting as a hedge against the general market shocks and volatility spikes (and being less affected than Bitcoin by rate shocks).</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MN_C!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2fbd23bd-cb21-40f3-a4eb-e6c8b421e36c_1571x567.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(The x-axis is in increments of weeks after a positive shock of 1 stdev. in a single week in the given variable and y-axis is the cumulative percent movement in Bitcoin and gold price over time after that initial shock; value of 0.01 represents a 1% change in price; the yellow 90%-confidence-bands are based on running multiple simulations of the model and taking the 5th and 95th percentile results of the smallest and largest values to trace the bands). </em></p><p><em>Note that the paper uses a vector auto-regression model to generate these impulse lines and bands, yet does not present any kind of goodness-of-fit information about the model itself, so who know how much confidence can really be put into the relationships being shown here; I&#8217;m not that well versed in statistical</em> <em>analysis, but I&#8217;m pretty sure there is nothing stopping them from, or obviating the usefulness of them, doing this (eg. a simple R-squared scoring). The paper provides various robustness checks in the appendix attachment to show that the results are consistent across different configurations of the model, but this doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean the model fits the data well. Eg. the VAR can give internally consistent results across configurations, yet fail to be capturing the actual relationships in the data. In any case, we also see that the Bitcoin-vs-Rates and Gold-vs-Inflation 90%-confidence-bands cross from negative to positive, so even more so it&#8217;s hard to have confidence in any correlation or anti-correlation of those relationships. **********</em></p><p>.</p><p>On gold as a hedge against some Doomsday apocalypse scenario, I think it might be better to study the Soviet revolution, the USSR Perestroika period, and decaying/post-USSR mafia state for a more realistic case studies of societal breakdown and how onw could navigate that. Perhaps some basic research on the various countries that offer citizenship through birthright or businesses investment (eg. Brazil or Sweden) would be useful.</p><p>.</p><p>Some interesting writings on gold: </p><ul><li><p><a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/INFL-Semi-Annual-Letter-2023_APPROVED.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/INFL-Semi-Annual-Letter-2023_APPROVED.pdf</a> (see &#8220;<em>Surprise 5 &#8211; Precious Metals</em>&#8221;); </p></li><li><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220410163031/https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5eff6e898853fb43f159bd0f/t/5f0fc95af4baae4ad468e43e/1594870107759/Micro+Cap+%26+OTC+Stock+Letter+April+2020+vFINAL.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20220410163031/https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5eff6e898853fb43f159bd0f/t/5f0fc95af4baae4ad468e43e/1594870107759/Micro+Cap+%26+OTC+Stock+Letter+April+2020+vFINAL.pdf</a> (see &#8220;<em>Macro Thoughts</em>&#8221; and &#8220;<em>Portfolio Construction &amp; Tracking the Performance of Ideas Discussed Here</em>&#8221;)</p></li></ul><p>.</p><p>If your reading an article on FNV, I assume you also have some passing interest in TPL, Texas Pacific Land Corp. I&#8217;m a fan of Murray Stahl, founder of Horizon Kinetics which also wons 20% of the oil royalty company. It shouldn&#8217;t be much of a surprise then that I also keep loose track of Pierre Lassonde&#8217;s gold pure/streaming royalty company. I&#8217;ve written about the similarities between Stahl and Lassonde in an old post <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/45570065/some-interesting-commonalities-between-stahl-and-franco-nevada-founder-pierre-lassonde">here</a>.</p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><h1>Post update 20240308: </h1><p>FNV just released their 2023Q4 numbers (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837024002504/0001558370-24-002504-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837024002504/0001558370-24-002504-index.html</a>) and included mention that they were pursuing arbitration with the Panama government for damages associated with the ordered shutdown of Cobre Panama. &#8220;We are pursuing legal avenues to protect our investment in Cobre Panama. We have notified the Ministry of Commerce and Industries of Panama (&#8220;MICI&#8221;) of our intent to initiate arbitration pursuant to the Canada-Panama Free Trade Agreement. As announced to MICI, Franco-Nevada presently and preliminarily estimates its damages to be at least $5 billion, subject to further analysis and development.&#8221; Note that FNV&#8217;s total dollar investment towards Cobre was about $1bn (<a href="https://franco-nevada.relayto.com/e/2023-asset-handbook-fokmo6c7tstte">https://franco-nevada.relayto.com/e/2023-asset-handbook-fokmo6c7tstte</a>), so this would represent a 5x return on their investment if they were awarded this preliminary amount &#8212;of course, the payout schedule would affect the exact IRR here. Also note that despite the Cobre setback, FNV is guiding for total GEO (gold equivalent ounces) sales in the 480,000-540,000 range (which is about in-line with 2023 results, which itself was above the starting-year 2023 guidance numbers despite the unexpected shutdown at Cobre near the end of that year). (See <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023003927/0001558370-23-003927-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023003927/0001558370-23-003927-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837024002504/0001558370-24-002504-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837024002504/0001558370-24-002504-index.html</a>) </p><p>Also, something I generally like to do when looking at businesses is to look at the executive compensation breakdowns and look at how concrete/comprehensible and relevant-to-fundamentals or -FCF-drivers they are, but didn&#8217;t really think to do that when initially writing this post as it didn&#8217;t really seem relevant to the main thesis for the investment at the time, but you can see the most recent disclosures on this here: <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837024004211/fnv-20240328xex99d1.htm#STATEMENTOFEXECUTIVECOMPENSATION_445869">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837024004211/fnv-20240328xex99d1.htm#STATEMENTOFEXECUTIVECOMPENSATION_445869</a></p><h1>Post update 20240401:</h1><p>Given the recent run-up in gold prices, I thought this video from Jeff Snider was interesting. </p><div id="youtube2-7Ug7i2-YHbs" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;7Ug7i2-YHbs&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/7Ug7i2-YHbs?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Many people find his deflation warnings to be a broken clock at this point (that, so far as I&#8217;ve tracked it, hasn&#8217;t been right since it broke), but I appreciate his knowledge of the banking system and the way he supports his hypotheses with empirical data. This sets him apart from some other macroeconomics commentators who more heavily rely on insinuations or, at the very least, fail to provide sources for their claims and interpretations of events. (Though he often fails to mention base rates when talking about changes in various data series, which makes the weight of some of the observations he brings up more ambiguous and is really just a big pet peeve of mine). Also related: <a href="https://wolfstreet.com/2024/04/01/office-cre-mess-keeps-getting-worse-the-massive-repricing-underway/">https://wolfstreet.com/2024/04/01/office-cre-mess-keeps-getting-worse-the-massive-repricing-underway/</a> </p><h1>Post update 20240716: </h1><p>Since the time I originally wrote this article in the beginning of 2024, FNV stock has gone up 24% from $105/sh to $131/sh, right about where I had initially valued the business. However, this rise was primarily due to the rise in gold prices (20%); the FNV/gold sh/oz ratio of how many shares of FNV (essentially just a big vault of gold stored underground) an oz of gold could buy you is still the same as when I originally wrote this post, at 18x. </p><p>Rate cuts, expected later this year, could further boost gold prices and FNV&#8217;s stock in kind (<a href="https://www.axios.com/2024/07/11/rate-cut-expectations-spike">https://www.axios.com/2024/07/11/rate-cut-expectations-spike</a>; <a href="https://seekingalpha.com/news/4124828-gold-settles-at-all-time-highs-citi-sees-potential-for-continued-gains-to-3000">https://seekingalpha.com/news/4124828-gold-settles-at-all-time-highs-citi-sees-potential-for-continued-gains-to-3000</a>). Note that the Fed Funds Rate has been 5.33% this whole year and yet the CME FedWatch tool shows that the cumulative probability predictions (<a href="https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html">https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html</a>) for any kind of rate cut by now started the year much more optimistic before capitulating, so continued disappointment would not be a surprising outcome as we approach September.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hkjR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92af0e02-4fa1-4580-87f5-07c08af963d2_1303x499.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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As FNV CEO mentioned in a FY2023Q2 earnings call: &#8220;For many operators and developers, royalty and stream financing is currently the lowest cost of available capital with high rates, debt financing is expensive, and there's little depth in the market for new issue gold equity.&#8221;</p><p>*As another side note on the subject of rates, gold and real rates historically tend to move inversely to each other (<a href="https://www.longtermtrends.net/gold-vs-real-yields/">https://www.longtermtrends.net/gold-vs-real-yields/</a>)&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ny2I!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba723b5b-6f5b-4206-afd5-cb06011fce56_1716x375.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ny2I!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba723b5b-6f5b-4206-afd5-cb06011fce56_1716x375.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ny2I!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba723b5b-6f5b-4206-afd5-cb06011fce56_1716x375.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ny2I!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba723b5b-6f5b-4206-afd5-cb06011fce56_1716x375.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ny2I!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba723b5b-6f5b-4206-afd5-cb06011fce56_1716x375.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ny2I!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba723b5b-6f5b-4206-afd5-cb06011fce56_1716x375.png" width="1456" height="318" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ba723b5b-6f5b-4206-afd5-cb06011fce56_1716x375.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:318,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:81701,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ny2I!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba723b5b-6f5b-4206-afd5-cb06011fce56_1716x375.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ny2I!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba723b5b-6f5b-4206-afd5-cb06011fce56_1716x375.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ny2I!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba723b5b-6f5b-4206-afd5-cb06011fce56_1716x375.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ny2I!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fba723b5b-6f5b-4206-afd5-cb06011fce56_1716x375.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(Gold vs Real yields (inverted)) </p><p>(Note that the apparent matching of curves in this image by shifting and/or scaling axes does not *necessarily* indicate that, for example, inverse real rates could be used to create a well-fitting linear regression curve against gold prices; IDK where I&#8217;d get the data to do this at the moment. Also note that this latter chart does not imply that gold and rates are at risk to snap back or revert, as the chart is showing historical correlation of *movements* rather than, say, historical parity of *values* &#8212;unless a linear regression model did indeed show that inverse real rates significantly predicted gold prices, then maybe you could make a mean-reversion case about the recent divergence if it could be explained by factors that were mostly temporary (though it would be based on the hypothetical regression line, not the line in this chart).)</p><p>&#8230; yet, currently, real rates and gold price have risen in tandem since March of 2022. One could say that this was due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine that caused geopolitical volatility (for which gold is historically seen as a safe-haven / beneficiary asset against), while also greatly raising inflation (re. energy, metals, and raw materials from Russia and grain and fertilizer from Ukraine) that in turned spurred a reaction from the Fed to begin rate hikes. It could also be the case that correlation breakaway in gold prices is indicating bearishness on real rates by central banks &#8212;either due to easing inflation or, more concerning, a move to deflation caused by economic weakness.</p><p>Adjusting my original Cobre-reopening-contingent price target to account for this year&#8217;s rise in gold prices would put it at a target of $156/sh (=135x1.20). This is assuming gold prices remain the same, which is a rather important caveat, but my cost basis is in the $105/sh area (I&#8217;ve not bought more shares just because my PT moved up, in this case). </p><p>Panama&#8217;s new President, Jose Raul Mulino, was elected in May and was sworn into office on July 1. Unlike other candidates, Mulino has been seen as less adversarial to the Cobre project and his election has been interpreted as a positive sign towards the possible reopening of the mine (<a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/first-quantum-seek-dialogue-with-new-administration-panama-over-cobre-panama-2024-05-06/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/first-quantum-seek-dialogue-with-new-administration-panama-over-cobre-panama-2024-05-06/</a>; <a href="https://archive.ph/JZBMY">https://archive.ph/JZBMY</a>). Both the Panama government and First Quantum have strong economic incentives to come to the negotiating table here and I think some kind of settlement will be negotiated within, say, 12 months or before the end of 2025. </p><h1>Post update 20240804: </h1><p>Well, looks like any re-opening for operations is not going to be this year; there go my call options. <a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/first-quantum-minerals-jumps-6-panama-plans-mine-environmental-audit-2024-07-02/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/first-quantum-minerals-jumps-6-panama-plans-mine-environmental-audit-2024-07-02/</a>; <a href="https://www.mining.com/web/panama-vows-to-talk-to-first-quantum-in-coming-months-on-shuttered-mine/">https://www.mining.com/web/panama-vows-to-talk-to-first-quantum-in-coming-months-on-shuttered-mine/</a>; <a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/first-quantum-ceo-does-not-see-cobre-panama-mine-re-opening-this-year-2024-07-24/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/first-quantum-ceo-does-not-see-cobre-panama-mine-re-opening-this-year-2024-07-24/</a>; <a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/first-quantum-copper-mine-not-government-agenda-this-year-panamas-mulino-says-2024-07-25/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/first-quantum-copper-mine-not-government-agenda-this-year-panamas-mulino-says-2024-07-25/</a> </p><h1>Post update 20241126: </h1><p>In a recent interview (<a href="https://www.mining.com/panamas-president-blames-previous-govt-for-first-quantum-mine-crisis/">https://www.mining.com/panamas-president-blames-previous-govt-for-first-quantum-mine-crisis/</a>), the new Panamanian President seems to be positioning for a political justification for a re-opening of the Cobre mine in 2025. </p><p>He frames the mine closure as a result of political incompetence of the previous admin rather than fundamental issues with the mine (claiming that &#8220;[t]he mine paid the price for accumulated national discontent&#8221;), which could set the stage for revisiting the decision. </p><p>In the same interview, he also highlights the issues with balancing Panama&#8217;s social security funding (<a href="https://latinoamerica21.com/en/informality-after-the-social-security-reform-in-panama/">https://latinoamerica21.com/en/informality-after-the-social-security-reform-in-panama/</a>) &#8212;which would obviously benefit from a re-opening of the mine, which was 5% of Panama&#8217;s GDP, the largest single contributor in the country just behind the Panama canal. </p><p>The President is promising an international audit of the mine (ie. conducted by experts that may be less influenced by Panamanian social sentiment) that could provide the social proof to address public concerns around the extent of Cobre's environmental impact.</p><p>If this plays out as expected and Cobre is re-opened, I&#8217;d wager that FNV hits $155 by end of 2025 is not too crazy given current gold prices for a present CAGR of around 26%. </p><h1>Post update 20250220: </h1><p>I thought this was an interesting thread on the current state of gold: <a href="https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1892596245794783617">https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1892596245794783617</a>. Gold prices up 50% over last 14 months to a record $2954/oz with increased central bank purchases (particularly from China and India) as global political tensions and trade war concerns ramp up.</p><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Well, due to recent events, I think that title now goes to Wheaton Precious Metals.</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/metals-and-mining/our-insights/streaming-and-royalties-in-mining-let-the-music-play-on">https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/metals-and-mining/our-insights/streaming-and-royalties-in-mining-let-the-music-play-on</a>; &#8220;<em>Royalty ownership in the mining industry is generally agreed to have originated with Franco-Nevada in the mid-1980s [&#8230;] The arrival of the precious-metals streaming business model is often attributed to Wheaton River [now Wheaton Precious Metals].</em>&#8221;</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note that FNV is a Canadian company and, while it does not currently have PFIC status, it was considered a PFIC starting from it&#8217;s Candian IPO in December 2007 until it listed on the NYSE in late 2011 (<a href="https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/franco-nevada-celebrates-nyse-listing-129291848.html">https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/franco-nevada-celebrates-nyse-listing-129291848.html</a>). Since the US listing, the company&#8217;s SEC 40F forms have claimed they fall within some kind of &#8220;<em>active commodity business exception</em>&#8221; to PFIC rules, so there would be tax implications if it is ever considered a PFIC by the IRS in the future. To be honest, when it comes to all of the Canadian royalty companies I don&#8217;t really get how they do <em>not</em> check off the &#8220;passive income test&#8221; for PFICs and are not considered as such by the IRS, but they haven&#8217;t so far and I hope it stays that way.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>For example&#8230;</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Cobre Panam&#225; experienced illegal blockades throughout the month of November at the Punta Rinc&#243;n port and at the roads to the site that prevented the delivery of supplies that are necessary to operate the power plant and the Company suspended production at the Cobre Panam&#225; mine at the end of November 2023 and placed the mine into a phase of Preservation and Safe Management (&#8220;P&amp;SM&#8221;).</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://s24.q4cdn.com/821689673/files/doc_financials/2023/q4/Q4-2023-FQM-Financial-Statements-FINAL.pdf">https://s24.q4cdn.com/821689673/files/doc_financials/2023/q4/Q4-2023-FQM-Financial-Statements-FINAL.pdf</a></p></blockquote><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Protesters attacked workers leaving the Cobre Panama mine early Sunday in an incident that left about eight people injured, a union leader said. A group of protesters in a pickup truck threw stones at buses carrying staff from the First Quantum-operated mine, Michael Camacho, a leader of the Utramipa union, said by telephone. After one bus was forced to stop, the passengers fled as protesters detained the driver, Camacho said. He said he was unaware of the extent of the injuries suffered by workers.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.mining.com/web/panama-copper-miners-attacked-by-protesters-union-boss-says/">https://www.mining.com/web/panama-copper-miners-attacked-by-protesters-union-boss-says/</a></p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.first-quantum.com/English/announcements/announcements-details/2023/First-Quantum-Provides-Update-on-Panama-cd26f5fd1/default.aspx">https://www.first-quantum.com/English/announcements/announcements-details/2023/First-Quantum-Provides-Update-on-Panama-cd26f5fd1/default.aspx</a>; <a href="https://www.mining-technology.com/news/the-supreme-court-in-panama-rules-first-quantums-contract-unconstitutional/?cf-view">https://www.mining-technology.com/news/the-supreme-court-in-panama-rules-first-quantums-contract-unconstitutional/?cf-view</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://financialpost.com/commodities/mining/first-quantum-committed-panama-amid-mine-chaos-ceo">https://financialpost.com/commodities/mining/first-quantum-committed-panama-amid-mine-chaos-ceo</a>; <a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/miner-first-quantums-panama-unit-requests-permission-lay-off-more-than-4000-2023-12-08/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/miner-first-quantums-panama-unit-requests-permission-lay-off-more-than-4000-2023-12-08/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/franco-nevada-setback-called-cobre-153611063.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/franco-nevada-setback-called-cobre-153611063.html</a> </p><p><a href="https://s201.q4cdn.com/345177888/files/doc_news/2023/Nov/20/cobre-panama-operations-update-vf-2023-11-20.pdf">https://s201.q4cdn.com/345177888/files/doc_news/2023/Nov/20/cobre-panama-operations-update-vf-2023-11-20.pdf</a> (Total GEOs being adjusted from a high-end estimate of 700K down to 640K)</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>We&#8217;ll need to wait until FNV releases their annual report in March to see their new projections for 2024 &#8212;which will likely assume Cobre Panama remains closed if it is not reopened before the report is published.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d2.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d2.htm</a>, see &#8220;<em>Revenue by Asset</em>&#8221;</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://s201.q4cdn.com/345177888/files/doc_financials/2019/q2/v5F_WEB-version_Q2'19_19.08.08.pdf">https://s201.q4cdn.com/345177888/files/doc_financials/2019/q2/v5F_WEB-version_Q2'19_19.08.08.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/miner-first-quantums-panama-unit-requests-permission-lay-off-more-than-4000-2023-12-08/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/miner-first-quantums-panama-unit-requests-permission-lay-off-more-than-4000-2023-12-08/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.ecora-resources.com/about-us/royalties-and-streams-explained/">https://www.ecora-resources.com/about-us/royalties-and-streams-explained/</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.ecora-resources.com/application/files/1216/6436/6004/Royalty_slides.pdf">https://www.ecora-resources.com/application/files/1216/6436/6004/Royalty_slides.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.ecora-resources.com/application/files/5216/6436/6013/Stream_slides.pdf">https://www.ecora-resources.com/application/files/5216/6436/6013/Stream_slides.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.mining.com/web/pierre-lassonde-franco-nevada-very-few-get-this-but-its-worth-so-much-money/">https://www.mining.com/web/pierre-lassonde-franco-nevada-very-few-get-this-but-its-worth-so-much-money/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/videos/james-davolos-on-value-hive-podcast-may-26-2023/">https://horizonkinetics.com/videos/james-davolos-on-value-hive-podcast-may-26-2023/</a> (There is some discussion on equity vs debt vs royalty/streaming deals for mine operators at around 00:25:00)</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;Streaming Agreements in Mining&#8221;, <a href="https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=3119a668-e775-4638-b633-52aa10122691">https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=3119a668-e775-4638-b633-52aa10122691</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note that JNJ changed their fiscal year to Feb to Jan (of the next year) in 2015, so dates don&#8217;t fully line up, but I think it&#8217;s close enough to get a sense of the correlations. Note Procter &amp; Gamble's (PG) fiscal year runs from July 1 to June 30 of the following year, so I compare FNV 2009 results with PG reported results as of June 2010 as so on, so dates don&#8217;t fully line up, but I think it&#8217;s close enough to get a sense of the correlations.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-6102-forbidding-the-hoarding-gold-coin-gold-bullion-and-gold-certificates">https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-6102-forbidding-the-hoarding-gold-coin-gold-bullion-and-gold-certificates</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.dentonsmininglaw.com/structuring-mining-royalties-what-you-need-to-know-to-protect-your-interests/">https://www.dentonsmininglaw.com/structuring-mining-royalties-what-you-need-to-know-to-protect-your-interests/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-20" href="#footnote-anchor-20" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">20</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is not <em>always</em> the case. From the &#8220;<em>RISK FACTORS</em>&#8221; section of Franco-Nevada&#8217;s 2022 annual report: &#8220;<em>Many royalties, streams or other interests are contractual, rather than an interest in land, with the risk that an assignment or bankruptcy or insolvency proceedings by an owner may result in the loss of any effective royalty, stream or other interest in a particular property. Further, even in those jurisdictions where there is a right to record or register royalties, streams or other interests held by Franco-Nevada in land registries or mining recorders offices, such registrations may not necessarily provide any protection to the holder of such interests.</em>&#8221;</p><p>Unfortunately, as of my writing this, I&#8217;ve not been able to find anything from the company that breaks down which of their royalties are contractual vs interests in land.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-21" href="#footnote-anchor-21" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">21</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>From FNV&#8217;s 2023 Asset Handbook &#8220;<em>Royalty rights are often registered on the title of the property or mineral rights.</em> <em>Registered royalties have strong tenure and, in jurisdictions where recognized, will generally survive an operating company reorganization.</em>&#8221;, <a href="https://franco-nevada.relayto.com/e/2023-asset-handbook-fokmo6c7tstte">https://franco-nevada.relayto.com/e/2023-asset-handbook-fokmo6c7tstte</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-22" href="#footnote-anchor-22" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">22</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>IDK about other countries, but my understanding is that, in the US, if the landowner does not want to or own the rights to extract the resource, but the mineral rights owner can find a willing operator, the landowner has to accommodate the operator to some degree under the &#8220;Accommodation Doctrine&#8221; (see <a href="https://mineralrightspodcast.com/mrp-198-what-is-a-subordination-agreement/">https://mineralrightspodcast.com/mrp-198-what-is-a-subordination-agreement/</a>; <a href="https://www.fwlaw.com/insights/oil-and-gas-for-the-surface-developer-will-the-oil-and-gas-company-drill-on-my-property-katie-moisan">https://www.fwlaw.com/insights/oil-and-gas-for-the-surface-developer-will-the-oil-and-gas-company-drill-on-my-property-katie-moisan</a>)</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-23" href="#footnote-anchor-23" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">23</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldstrike_mine">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldstrike_mine</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-24" href="#footnote-anchor-24" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">24</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1222333/000119312514209872/d733542dfwp.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1222333/000119312514209872/d733542dfwp.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-25" href="#footnote-anchor-25" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">25</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://franco-nevada.relayto.com/e/2023-asset-handbook-fokmo6c7tstte">https://franco-nevada.relayto.com/e/2023-asset-handbook-fokmo6c7tstte</a></p><p><a href="https://novascotia.ca/natr/meb/education/mining-cycle.asp">https://novascotia.ca/natr/meb/education/mining-cycle.asp</a></p><p><a href="https://www.gold.org/gold-supply/gold-mining-lifecycle">https://www.gold.org/gold-supply/gold-mining-lifecycle</a></p><p><a href="https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/research/discovery-to-production-averages-15-7-years-for-127-mines">https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/research/discovery-to-production-averages-15-7-years-for-127-mines</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-26" href="#footnote-anchor-26" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">26</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In the case of stream-based royalties where, in exchange for an upfront deposit and ongoing payments for metal delivered, the holder purchases all or a portion of one or more metals produced from a mine at a preset price (usually implicitly or explicitly set up to result in a discount to sport prices), I think the royalty company can have costs related to delivery, reception, and/or selling of the physical gold. You can get a sense of how these go by looking at the FNV Annual Information Form and word-searching for the word &#8220;deliver&#8221; in the &#8220;Three-Year History&#8221; section (eg. <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d1.htm#EXPLANATIONOFROYALTIESSTREAMSANDOTHERINT">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d1.htm#EXPLANATIONOFROYALTIESSTREAMSANDOTHERINT</a>).</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-27" href="#footnote-anchor-27" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">27</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d1.htm#GENERALDEVELOPMENTOFFRANCONEVADASBUSINES">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d1.htm#GENERALDEVELOPMENTOFFRANCONEVADASBUSINES</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-28" href="#footnote-anchor-28" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">28</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>FNV&#8217;s Canadian IPO prospectus (<a href="https://www.sedarplus.ca/csa-party/records/document.html?id=02033b14988622ab96ad00af5e2a4586314b188e2032cf7bfa1f76eb25875b5f">https://www.sedarplus.ca/csa-party/records/document.html?id=02033b14988622ab96ad00af5e2a4586314b188e2032cf7bfa1f76eb25875b5f</a> (Preliminary Short Form Prospectus)), this has the first mention of PFIC issues.</p><p>FNV&#8217;s US listing documents (<a href="https://www.sedarplus.ca/csa-party/records/document.html?id=68ed333e3a34fa5a0c5dcd689098376472501cef103c67e241aeb96bf1ab9dbb">https://www.sedarplus.ca/csa-party/records/document.html?id=68ed333e3a34fa5a0c5dcd689098376472501cef103c67e241aeb96bf1ab9dbb</a> (PRELIMINARY SHORT FORM BASE SHELF PROSPECTUS, Sep 7 2011); </p><p><a href="https://www.sedarplus.ca/csa-party/records/document.html?id=fa7d09da41c34f7d10464907d35b18b307a81b4ef1b0feced1561b29e9792fcb">https://www.sedarplus.ca/csa-party/records/document.html?id=fa7d09da41c34f7d10464907d35b18b307a81b4ef1b0feced1561b29e9792fcb</a> (PROSPECTUS SUPPLEMENT To Short Form Base Shelf Prospectus, Nov 23 2011); </p><p><a href="https://www.sedarplus.ca/csa-party/records/document.html?id=f7ab22205a2078ccca9a0254dad8fb7cdac24517a001f401f8bacffce0b9d937">https://www.sedarplus.ca/csa-party/records/document.html?id=f7ab22205a2078ccca9a0254dad8fb7cdac24517a001f401f8bacffce0b9d937</a> (UNDERWRITING AGREEMENT, Nov 23 2011))</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-29" href="#footnote-anchor-29" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">29</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://s201.q4cdn.com/345177888/files/doc_presentations/2023/Dec/12/franco-nevada-december-2023-presentation-12-12-2023.pdf">https://s201.q4cdn.com/345177888/files/doc_presentations/2023/Dec/12/franco-nevada-december-2023-presentation-12-12-2023.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-30" href="#footnote-anchor-30" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">30</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d2.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d2.htm</a>, see &#8220;Revenue and GEOs&#8221; and &#8220;Revenue by Asset&#8221;</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-31" href="#footnote-anchor-31" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">31</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Call it a failure to delineate between maintenance- vs growth-capex</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-32" href="#footnote-anchor-32" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">32</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/franco-nevada-closes-us500-million-bought-deal-financing-515340261.html">https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/franco-nevada-closes-us500-million-bought-deal-financing-515340261.html</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2016/02/10/1504948/0/en/Franco-Nevada-Announces-US-550-Million-Bought-Deal-Financing.html">https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2016/02/10/1504948/0/en/Franco-Nevada-Announces-US-550-Million-Bought-Deal-Financing.html</a>;</p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837017002025/fnv_ex991.htm#GENERALDEVELOPMENTOFFRANCONEVADASBUSINES">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837017002025/fnv_ex991.htm#GENERALDEVELOPMENTOFFRANCONEVADASBUSINES</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-33" href="#footnote-anchor-33" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">33</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>See <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d2.htm#SELECTEDFINANCIALINFORMATION_701848">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d2.htm#SELECTEDFINANCIALINFORMATION_701848</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-34" href="#footnote-anchor-34" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">34</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.macrotrends.net/1333/historical-gold-prices-100-year-chart">https://www.macrotrends.net/1333/historical-gold-prices-100-year-chart</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-35" href="#footnote-anchor-35" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">35</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&amp;sl=23n4VZ2NCSDLoRIXxEg37X">https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&amp;sl=23n4VZ2NCSDLoRIXxEg37X</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yetG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1f4dcb1-160b-4cae-9bd2-3a476d17186b_1841x471.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yetG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1f4dcb1-160b-4cae-9bd2-3a476d17186b_1841x471.png 424w, 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target="_self">38</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;Mineral reserves&#8221; the a subset of &#8220;mineral resources&#8221; that have been determined to be economically and legally extractable by the company. This designation is usually based on more detailed geological and economic studies as opposed to &#8220;mineral resources&#8221; that may not have demonstrated economic viability sufficient to be reported as reserves under Canadian or US public reporting regulations.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-39" href="#footnote-anchor-39" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">39</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837019004483/0001558370-19-004483-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837019004483/0001558370-19-004483-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837019007507/0001558370-19-007507-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837019007507/0001558370-19-007507-index.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-40" href="#footnote-anchor-40" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">40</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>See section 6 &#8220;<em>TERM AND TERMINATION</em>&#8221;, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000110465912061432/a12-19631_1ex99d2.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000110465912061432/a12-19631_1ex99d2.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-41" href="#footnote-anchor-41" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">41</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Further reading on the Cobre Panama issues from 2023 (articles in <em>reverse</em> chronological order): </p><p><a href="https://financialpost.com/commodities/mining/first-quantum-halting-dividend-selling-mines-panama-woes">https://financialpost.com/commodities/mining/first-quantum-halting-dividend-selling-mines-panama-woes</a>; </p><p><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/timeline-first-quantum-starts-international-144351984.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/timeline-first-quantum-starts-international-144351984.html</a>; </p><p><a href="https://resourceworld.com/first-quantum-franco-nevada-respond-to-panama-threat/">https://resourceworld.com/first-quantum-franco-nevada-respond-to-panama-threat/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.mining.com/first-quantum-to-halt-panama-mine-if-blockade-goes-on/">https://www.mining.com/first-quantum-to-halt-panama-mine-if-blockade-goes-on/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.mining.com/franco-nevada-cuts-guidance-on-cobre-panama-mine-woes/">https://www.mining.com/franco-nevada-cuts-guidance-on-cobre-panama-mine-woes/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-42" href="#footnote-anchor-42" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">42</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.first-quantum.com/English/announcements/announcements-details/2023/First-Quantum-Provides-Update-on-Cobre-Panama-Operations/default.aspx">https://www.first-quantum.com/English/announcements/announcements-details/2023/First-Quantum-Provides-Update-on-Cobre-Panama-Operations/default.aspx</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-43" href="#footnote-anchor-43" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">43</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://reliefweb.int/report/panama/panama-civil-unrest-dref-operation-mdrpa018">https://reliefweb.int/report/panama/panama-civil-unrest-dref-operation-mdrpa018</a>; </p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Panamanian_protests">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Panamanian_protests</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-44" href="#footnote-anchor-44" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">44</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://reliefweb.int/report/panama/panama-civil-unrest-dref-operation-mdrpa018">https://reliefweb.int/report/panama/panama-civil-unrest-dref-operation-mdrpa018</a>; </p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUNTRACS">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUNTRACS</a>; </p><p><a href="https://peoplesdispatch.org/2023/10/26/panamanian-unions-lead-renewed-protests-against-copper-mining-concessions/">https://peoplesdispatch.org/2023/10/26/panamanian-unions-lead-renewed-protests-against-copper-mining-concessions/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-45" href="#footnote-anchor-45" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">45</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://confidencial.digital/english/analysis-of-the-crisis-that-has-immobilized-panama/">https://confidencial.digital/english/analysis-of-the-crisis-that-has-immobilized-panama/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/why-might-panama-cancel-copper-mine-contract-2023-11-03/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/why-might-panama-cancel-copper-mine-contract-2023-11-03/</a>; <a href="https://archive.is/9jBLc">https://archive.is/9jBLc</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-46" href="#footnote-anchor-46" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">46</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/panama-market-challenges">https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/panama-market-challenges</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-47" href="#footnote-anchor-47" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">47</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.labourstartcampaigns.net/show_campaign.cgi?c=5376">https://www.labourstartcampaigns.net/show_campaign.cgi?c=5376</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-48" href="#footnote-anchor-48" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">48</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.first-quantum.com/English/announcements/announcements-details/2023/First-Quantum-Provides-Update-on-Cobre-Panama-Operations/default.aspx">https://www.first-quantum.com/English/announcements/announcements-details/2023/First-Quantum-Provides-Update-on-Cobre-Panama-Operations/default.aspx</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-49" href="#footnote-anchor-49" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">49</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/11/panamas-supreme-court-ruled-that-a-20-year-concession-for-a-canadian-copper-mine-was-unconstitutional/">https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/11/panamas-supreme-court-ruled-that-a-20-year-concession-for-a-canadian-copper-mine-was-unconstitutional/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-50" href="#footnote-anchor-50" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">50</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/first-quantum-starts-international-arbitration-cobre-panama-mine-2023-12-01/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/first-quantum-starts-international-arbitration-cobre-panama-mine-2023-12-01/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.mining.com/first-quantum-takes-panama-to-international-court/">https://www.mining.com/first-quantum-takes-panama-to-international-court/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-51" href="#footnote-anchor-51" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">51</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/panama-starts-process-first-quantums-mine-definitive-closure-2023-12-15/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/panama-starts-process-first-quantums-mine-definitive-closure-2023-12-15/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.first-quantum.com/English/announcements/announcements-details/2023/First-Quantum-Provides-Update-on-the-Cobre-Panama-Mine-Regarding-Responsible-Environmental-Stewardship/default.aspx">https://www.first-quantum.com/English/announcements/announcements-details/2023/First-Quantum-Provides-Update-on-the-Cobre-Panama-Mine-Regarding-Responsible-Environmental-Stewardship/default.aspx</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-52" href="#footnote-anchor-52" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">52</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/workers-first-quantums-shuttered-panama-mine-warn-threat-invade-site-2024-01-04/">https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/workers-first-quantums-shuttered-panama-mine-warn-threat-invade-site-2024-01-04/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://archive.is/TMO4u">https://archive.is/TMO4u</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.mining.com/web/first-quantum-calls-on-panama-to-prevent-violence-at-closed-mine/">https://www.mining.com/web/first-quantum-calls-on-panama-to-prevent-violence-at-closed-mine/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://bnnbreaking.com/finance-nav/business/union-raises-alarm-over-potential-invasion-at-first-quantums-shuttered-panama-mine/">https://bnnbreaking.com/finance-nav/business/union-raises-alarm-over-potential-invasion-at-first-quantums-shuttered-panama-mine/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-53" href="#footnote-anchor-53" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">53</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-places-first-quantum-minerals-on-rating-watch-negative-as-cobre-panama-uncertainty-returns-12-12-2023">https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-places-first-quantum-minerals-on-rating-watch-negative-as-cobre-panama-uncertainty-returns-12-12-2023</a>; </p><p><a href="https://financialpost.com/commodities/mining/first-quantum-halting-dividend-selling-mines-panama-woes">https://financialpost.com/commodities/mining/first-quantum-halting-dividend-selling-mines-panama-woes</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.mining.com/web/first-quantum-annual-copper-production-falls-plans-layoffs-in-panama-mine/">https://www.mining.com/web/first-quantum-annual-copper-production-falls-plans-layoffs-in-panama-mine/</a>;</p><p><a href="https://www.first-quantum.com/English/announcements/announcements-details/2024/First-Quantum-Minerals-Announces-2023-Preliminary-Production-2024-2026-Guidance-and-Balance-Sheet-Initiatives/default.aspx">https://www.first-quantum.com/English/announcements/announcements-details/2024/First-Quantum-Minerals-Announces-2023-Preliminary-Production-2024-2026-Guidance-and-Balance-Sheet-Initiatives/default.aspx</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-54" href="#footnote-anchor-54" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">54</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Context:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_nte!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd20f333f-1760-4c98-9226-0e1b4498465c_960x960.png" 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class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">55</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://financialpost.com/commodities/mining/first-quantum-committed-panama-amid-mine-chaos-ceo">https://financialpost.com/commodities/mining/first-quantum-committed-panama-amid-mine-chaos-ceo</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-56" href="#footnote-anchor-56" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">56</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/panama-may-slash-gdp-growth-view-due-suspension-first-quantum-mine-2023-12-04/">https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/panama-may-slash-gdp-growth-view-due-suspension-first-quantum-mine-2023-12-04/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.bnamericas.com/en/analysis/panama-mining-setback-expected-to-hit-growth-harm-fiscal-consolidation">https://www.bnamericas.com/en/analysis/panama-mining-setback-expected-to-hit-growth-harm-fiscal-consolidation</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-57" href="#footnote-anchor-57" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">57</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/en/market-insights/latest-news/oil/103123-interview-panama-canal-faces-prolonged-impact-from-el-nino-climate-change">https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/en/market-insights/latest-news/oil/103123-interview-panama-canal-faces-prolonged-impact-from-el-nino-climate-change</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-58" href="#footnote-anchor-58" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">58</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.waterwaysjournal.net/2023/11/15/panama-canal-restrictions-extended-deepened/">https://www.waterwaysjournal.net/2023/11/15/panama-canal-restrictions-extended-deepened/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-59" href="#footnote-anchor-59" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">59</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://themaritimepost.com/2022/09/how-much-does-panama-earn-from-the-panama-canal/">https://themaritimepost.com/2022/09/how-much-does-panama-earn-from-the-panama-canal/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-60" href="#footnote-anchor-60" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">60</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-01-17/panama-canal-toll-revenue-shrinking-this-fiscal-year-due-to-drought">https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-01-17/panama-canal-toll-revenue-shrinking-this-fiscal-year-due-to-drought</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/whats-causing-panama-canal-logjam">https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/whats-causing-panama-canal-logjam</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/panama-canal-produced-record-revenue-despite-drought-188804">https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/panama-canal-produced-record-revenue-despite-drought-188804</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/11/panama-canal-drought-moves-maersk-to-start-using-land-bridge-for-cargo.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/11/panama-canal-drought-moves-maersk-to-start-using-land-bridge-for-cargo.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-61" href="#footnote-anchor-61" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">61</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/01/03/world/society/saving-panama-canal-billions/">https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/01/03/world/society/saving-panama-canal-billions/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/01/business/economy/panama-canal-drought-shipping.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/01/business/economy/panama-canal-drought-shipping.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-62" href="#footnote-anchor-62" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">62</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.mining.com/franco-nevada-cuts-guidance-on-cobre-panama-mine-woes/">https://www.mining.com/franco-nevada-cuts-guidance-on-cobre-panama-mine-woes/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d2.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1456346/000155837023004112/fnv-20221231xex99d2.htm</a>, see annual figures in &#8220;<em>Revenue by Asset</em>&#8221;</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-63" href="#footnote-anchor-63" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">63</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Which at this time are the quarters of 2022Q4 and 2023Q1-Q3</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-64" href="#footnote-anchor-64" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">64</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;<em><strong>Gold is the only commodity where the amount of supply is literally about 100 times as much as the amount physically used in any year</strong>. That is not true of any other commodity, such as wheat or copper, where total supply and annual consumption are much closer in balance, and true shortages can develop. <strong>There is never any shortage of gold. So gold&#8217;s value is entirely dependent on psychology or those fundamentals that drive psychology</strong>. Many years ago, when I was a commodity research director, I would totally ignore gold production and consumption in analyzing the market. I would base any price expectation entirely on such factors as inflation and the value of the dollar because those are the factors that drive psychology. I always found it ridiculous when other analysts would write lengthy reports on gold analyzing such things as annual production prospects and jewelry usage. Annual production and consumption of gold are always a tiny fraction of supply, maybe around 1 percent, so who cares how much they change. It has nothing to with the price.</em>&#8221; ~~~ Jack Schwager, &#8220;Hedge Fund Market Wizards&#8221;</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-65" href="#footnote-anchor-65" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">65</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Using the assumed Q4 revenue of $240.73MM and Q3 EBITDA margin of (255.10/309.5=)0.82%, we get an implied NTM EV/EBITDA of 26537.36/(240.73*0.82*4) = 33.61x, which is higher than the 10yr avg multiple of 26x. What EV at this EBITDA would give a more avg multiple? $20529.5MM or an additional (20529.5/26537.36-1=)23% decline in FNV&#8217;s EV.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-66" href="#footnote-anchor-66" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">66</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-places-first-quantum-minerals-on-rating-watch-negative-as-cobre-panama-uncertainty-returns-12-12-2023">https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-places-first-quantum-minerals-on-rating-watch-negative-as-cobre-panama-uncertainty-returns-12-12-2023</a>. </p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-67" href="#footnote-anchor-67" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">67</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.canadianminingjournal.com/news/panamas-top-court-rules-first-quantum-contract-unconstitutional/">https://www.canadianminingjournal.com/news/panamas-top-court-rules-first-quantum-contract-unconstitutional/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.mining.com/panama-orders-first-quantums-copper-mine-closure/">https://www.mining.com/panama-orders-first-quantums-copper-mine-closure/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-68" href="#footnote-anchor-68" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">68</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;<em>Under certain circumstances, such as non-compliance with production targets, insolvency or other events of default, the Operator will be required to repay the uncredited amount of the deposit back to the Buyer.</em>&#8221;, <a href="https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=3119a668-e775-4638-b633-52aa10122691">https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=3119a668-e775-4638-b633-52aa10122691</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-69" href="#footnote-anchor-69" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">69</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-11-26/panama-protesters-attack-workers-of-canadas-first-quantum-mine-union">https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-11-26/panama-protesters-attack-workers-of-canadas-first-quantum-mine-union</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-70" href="#footnote-anchor-70" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">70</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://financialpost.com/commodities/mining/first-quantum-halting-dividend-selling-mines-panama-woes">https://financialpost.com/commodities/mining/first-quantum-halting-dividend-selling-mines-panama-woes</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.mining-technology.com/news/barrick-first-quantum-potential-takeover/?cf-view">https://www.mining-technology.com/news/barrick-first-quantum-potential-takeover/?cf-view</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-71" href="#footnote-anchor-71" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">71</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-places-first-quantum-minerals-on-rating-watch-negative-as-cobre-panama-uncertainty-returns-12-12-2023">https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-places-first-quantum-minerals-on-rating-watch-negative-as-cobre-panama-uncertainty-returns-12-12-2023</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-72" href="#footnote-anchor-72" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">72</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.mining.com/panama-orders-first-quantums-copper-mine-closure/">https://www.mining.com/panama-orders-first-quantums-copper-mine-closure/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.mining.com/breaking-panama-congress-revokes-first-quantums-mine-contract/">https://www.mining.com/breaking-panama-congress-revokes-first-quantums-mine-contract/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-73" href="#footnote-anchor-73" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">73</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/miner-first-quantums-panama-unit-requests-permission-lay-off-more-than-4000-2023-12-08/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/miner-first-quantums-panama-unit-requests-permission-lay-off-more-than-4000-2023-12-08/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.mining.com/panama-orders-first-quantums-copper-mine-closure/">https://www.mining.com/panama-orders-first-quantums-copper-mine-closure/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-74" href="#footnote-anchor-74" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">74</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-01-17/panama-canal-toll-revenue-shrinking-this-fiscal-year-due-to-drought">https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-01-17/panama-canal-toll-revenue-shrinking-this-fiscal-year-due-to-drought</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/whats-causing-panama-canal-logjam">https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/whats-causing-panama-canal-logjam</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/panama-canal-produced-record-revenue-despite-drought-188804">https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/panama-canal-produced-record-revenue-despite-drought-188804</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/11/panama-canal-drought-moves-maersk-to-start-using-land-bridge-for-cargo.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/11/panama-canal-drought-moves-maersk-to-start-using-land-bridge-for-cargo.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-75" href="#footnote-anchor-75" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">75</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://americasquarterly.org/article/what-panamas-mining-showdown-means-for-its-presidential-race/">https://americasquarterly.org/article/what-panamas-mining-showdown-means-for-its-presidential-race/</a>)</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-76" href="#footnote-anchor-76" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">76</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://rlo.acton.org/archives/125233-over-regulation-is-strangling-panama-and-the-u-s.html#:~:text=Copper%20ore%20also%20accounts%20for%20approximately%2075%25%20of%20Panama's%20exports.">https://rlo.acton.org/archives/125233-over-regulation-is-strangling-panama-and-the-u-s.html</a>; </p><p><a href="https://archive.is/8r9qn">https://archive.is/8r9qn</a>; <a href="https://www.canadianminingjournal.com/news/panamas-top-court-rules-first-quantum-contract-unconstitutional/">https://www.canadianminingjournal.com/news/panamas-top-court-rules-first-quantum-contract-unconstitutional/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-77" href="#footnote-anchor-77" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">77</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://s24.q4cdn.com/821689673/files/doc_news/2023/NR-23-37-Cobre-Panama-Environment-Update-FINAL.pdf">https://s24.q4cdn.com/821689673/files/doc_news/2023/NR-23-37-Cobre-Panama-Environment-Update-FINAL.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-78" href="#footnote-anchor-78" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">78</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.canadianminingjournal.com/news/panamas-top-court-rules-first-quantum-contract-unconstitutional/">https://www.canadianminingjournal.com/news/panamas-top-court-rules-first-quantum-contract-unconstitutional/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-11-26/panama-protesters-attack-workers-of-canadas-first-quantum-mine-union">https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-11-26/panama-protesters-attack-workers-of-canadas-first-quantum-mine-union</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-79" href="#footnote-anchor-79" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">79</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://americasquarterly.org/article/what-panamas-mining-showdown-means-for-its-presidential-race/">https://americasquarterly.org/article/what-panamas-mining-showdown-means-for-its-presidential-race/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-80" href="#footnote-anchor-80" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">80</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.mining.com/web/panama-to-present-first-quantum-closure-plan-miner-says/">https://www.mining.com/web/panama-to-present-first-quantum-closure-plan-miner-says/</a></p><p><a href="https://s24.q4cdn.com/821689673/files/doc_news/2023/NR-23-37-Cobre-Panama-Environment-Update-FINAL.pdf">https://s24.q4cdn.com/821689673/files/doc_news/2023/NR-23-37-Cobre-Panama-Environment-Update-FINAL.pdf</a></p><p>(I say &#8220;ostensibly&#8221; because FQM says that Panama has presented no legal basis to MPSA for pursuing a closure plan).</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-81" href="#footnote-anchor-81" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">81</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-places-first-quantum-minerals-on-rating-watch-negative-as-cobre-panama-uncertainty-returns-12-12-2023">https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/fitch-places-first-quantum-minerals-on-rating-watch-negative-as-cobre-panama-uncertainty-returns-12-12-2023</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-82" href="#footnote-anchor-82" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">82</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://mineralseducationcoalition.org/minerals-database/gold/">https://mineralseducationcoalition.org/minerals-database/gold/</a>; </p><p><a href="https://www.mining.com/web/worlds-no-2-gold-miner-is-trying-to-get-bigger-in-copper/">https://www.mining.com/web/worlds-no-2-gold-miner-is-trying-to-get-bigger-in-copper/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-83" href="#footnote-anchor-83" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">83</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_revolution">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_revolution</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-84" href="#footnote-anchor-84" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">84</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.gold.org/history-gold/gold-as-currency">https://www.gold.org/history-gold/gold-as-currency</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-85" href="#footnote-anchor-85" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">85</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.ssga.com/us/en/individual/etfs/insights/whats-driving-central-banks-to-record-gold-purchases-and-will">https://www.ssga.com/us/en/individual/etfs/insights/whats-driving-central-banks-to-record-gold-purchases-and-will</a></p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Portfolio review 2023, annual]]></title><description><![CDATA[Commentary]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/portfolio-review-2023-annual</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/portfolio-review-2023-annual</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2024 00:08:04 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faf9fdca4-e3dc-4d6e-88ce-9942e5ebc488_960x720.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139945007/commentary">Commentary</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139945007/portfolio-review">Portfolio review</a></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139945007/largest-positions">Largest positions</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139945007/some-cost-basis-weighted-top-gainers">Size-weighted gainers/losers</a></p></li></ul></li></ul><h1>Commentary</h1><p>For the year 2023, my primary portfolio beat the S&amp;P 600 by about 100bps, under-performed vs the Russel 2000 by about 300bps, and beat the IWC iShares Microcap ETF by 500bps.</p><p>My most relevant benchmark given the portfolio composition would be the Russell 2000 or, more appropriately, the iShares Micro-Cap ETF and I&#8217;d note that &#8212;unlike the indexes&#8212; 20% of my portfolio is presently kept in cash, money markets, or ultra-short bond funds, so I&#8217;m pretty OK with the year&#8217;s results.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ODgO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ed52e8b-7ab0-4e78-a252-ff4573785109_2171x608.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ODgO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ed52e8b-7ab0-4e78-a252-ff4573785109_2171x608.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ODgO!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ed52e8b-7ab0-4e78-a252-ff4573785109_2171x608.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ODgO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ed52e8b-7ab0-4e78-a252-ff4573785109_2171x608.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ODgO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ed52e8b-7ab0-4e78-a252-ff4573785109_2171x608.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ODgO!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ed52e8b-7ab0-4e78-a252-ff4573785109_2171x608.png" width="848" height="237.62637362637363" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7ed52e8b-7ab0-4e78-a252-ff4573785109_2171x608.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:408,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:848,&quot;bytes&quot;:225206,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ODgO!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ed52e8b-7ab0-4e78-a252-ff4573785109_2171x608.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ODgO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ed52e8b-7ab0-4e78-a252-ff4573785109_2171x608.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ODgO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ed52e8b-7ab0-4e78-a252-ff4573785109_2171x608.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ODgO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ed52e8b-7ab0-4e78-a252-ff4573785109_2171x608.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(&#8220;Uncategorized&#8221; in this heatmap is mostly just the RENN Fund (RCG) and GBTC, with the addition of various small holdings of actual call options contracts)</em></p><p>I say that the microcap index is the more aligned benchmark for the portfolio because, while Schwab buckets anything under $2bn as &#8220;Small Cap&#8221; in the asset breakdown above, the average position-size weighted marketcap of the stocks I&#8217;m invested in is less than $500MM ($473MM as of this writing), the iShares Micro-Cap IWC ETF having a upper marketcap limit of $550MM<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>. <em>(Position-size weighted debt/equity of 0.46x).</em></p><p>Considering that the equities portion of the portfolio was net positive for the year, if the various cash and ultra-short fixed income investments were instead also invested in the portfolio&#8217;s equities in a uniformly distributed manner, then the performance would have certainly been higher<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a>. My favorite investing thinker, Murray Stahl, had this to say on his company&#8217;s own large cash balance in 2015:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>We position FRMO to be ready, but there&#8217;s a cost associated with it, and it&#8217;s called opportunity cost. If the money were invested, we would, in principle, have a higher return on equity. <strong>Currently, we&#8217;ve got not quite, but more or less, half our shareholders&#8217; equity invested in cash or cash-like instrumentalities, and we managed to have an 8% return on equity. We could have had a much higher return on equity had we invested the whole balance. But, hopefully, there will be opportunities and we look forward to finding them</strong>. Maybe we&#8217;ll find them tomorrow but, at the moment, we&#8217;re still searching [&#8230;] The only problem I see with the conventional asset management business is that <strong>capital leaves when the market goes down, which is when you have the opportunities, and the capital comes back after the market goes up, after you&#8217;ve manifested success</strong>. We wanted to have something that was in the field of permanent capital, so that we wouldn&#8217;t have to rely upon the flows.</em>&#8221;  ~~~ Murray Stahl 2015, <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2015_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2015_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p>In a similar way, when the market goes down, if you don&#8217;t have cash on hand, you are relying on selling existing investments (at a low) or using dividend income (that may be reduced or paused in such a scenario) in order to capture new opportunities in a down market (which is where the most opportunities come from)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>. Having cash on hand is an alternative to that and has thankfully gotten significantly easier to hold now that interest rates have come up from their decade-long near-zero levels. If this causes some years of under-performance, that&#8217;s OK.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6WUI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26ba6dd8-06c7-419e-8f05-0db2be8bcd77_1005x886.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6WUI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26ba6dd8-06c7-419e-8f05-0db2be8bcd77_1005x886.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6WUI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F26ba6dd8-06c7-419e-8f05-0db2be8bcd77_1005x886.png 848w, 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" 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Backtesting that un-touched portfolio by simply leaving the share counts unchanged and calculating the values of the holdings at the end of the year vs the start in Google Sheets, I see that I&#8217;d actually have had a return of -19% on my portfolio for 2023 vs my realized 15%. On one hand this is a bit scary as it shows what could have happened had I not been paying attention on actively managing the portfolio. On the other hand, it&#8217;s a bit encouraging as it could be taken to show that 1) I&#8217;m a better investor than I was the year before and/or 2) I know when to hold&#8217;em and when to fold&#8217;em (I like to think it&#8217;s a mix of both) and 3) my intervention in the portfolio is generally value additive.</em> **********</p><p>Note the great under-performance relative to the S&amp;P 500 and NASDAQ which were mostly driven this year by the indexes&#8217; small &#8220;Magnificent 7&#8221; subset of constituents Amazon.com (AMZN), Apple (AAPL), Google parent Alphabet (GOOGL), Meta Platforms (META), Microsoft (MSFT), Nvidia (NVDA) and Tesla (TSLA)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MqcC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F792385a2-479a-49cc-99dd-d6cc7b9c759f_960x444.webp 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MqcC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F792385a2-479a-49cc-99dd-d6cc7b9c759f_960x444.webp" width="960" height="444" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/792385a2-479a-49cc-99dd-d6cc7b9c759f_960x444.webp&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:444,&quot;width&quot;:960,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Research from Goldman Sachs shows the S&amp;P 500 has never been this top heavy, which is leading to gains in seven stocks driving the major average higher.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Research from Goldman Sachs shows the S&amp;P 500 has never been this top heavy, which is leading to gains in seven stocks driving the major average higher." title="Research from Goldman Sachs shows the S&amp;P 500 has never been this top heavy, which is leading to gains in seven stocks driving the major average higher." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MqcC!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F792385a2-479a-49cc-99dd-d6cc7b9c759f_960x444.webp 424w, 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Looking at the change in EPS from 2022 to 2023 + dividend yield, we get a total <em>economic</em> return of 1.6% from the S&amp;P 500 for 2023 (see <a href="https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/spearn.htm">https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/spearn.htm</a>). Taking a slightly longer view and looking back at my previous year&#8217;s out-performance of the indexes compared to this year&#8217;s under-performance, I am reminded of this snippet from Nick Sleep in his 2007 annual Nomad Investment Partnership <a href="https://igyfoundation.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Full_Collection_Nomad_Letters_.pdf">letter to shareholders</a>:</p><blockquote><p><em><strong>A trick to help the rational mind is to put our periods of good performance together with our poor performance. We encourage you to mentally shuffle the surplus from the good years and allocate it to the deficit of the bad years. Especially any future bad years, please!</strong> Better still, take away the adjectives used to describe the years. That way one can accept life as it is. After all, regardless of the order in which annual results fall, the destination will be just the same.</em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2W0g!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c279f17-eaeb-4d3d-a007-a45c2fa1993e_954x1077.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2W0g!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c279f17-eaeb-4d3d-a007-a45c2fa1993e_954x1077.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2W0g!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c279f17-eaeb-4d3d-a007-a45c2fa1993e_954x1077.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2W0g!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c279f17-eaeb-4d3d-a007-a45c2fa1993e_954x1077.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2W0g!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c279f17-eaeb-4d3d-a007-a45c2fa1993e_954x1077.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2W0g!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c279f17-eaeb-4d3d-a007-a45c2fa1993e_954x1077.png" width="954" height="1077" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7c279f17-eaeb-4d3d-a007-a45c2fa1993e_954x1077.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1077,&quot;width&quot;:954,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:163608,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2W0g!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c279f17-eaeb-4d3d-a007-a45c2fa1993e_954x1077.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2W0g!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c279f17-eaeb-4d3d-a007-a45c2fa1993e_954x1077.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2W0g!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c279f17-eaeb-4d3d-a007-a45c2fa1993e_954x1077.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2W0g!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7c279f17-eaeb-4d3d-a007-a45c2fa1993e_954x1077.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;5142a476-a896-437f-831a-cf243fcc810a&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;End of year returns Basically, this year, if you had just kept your money in a savings account (well&#8230; maybe more in sub-1yr bonds), you would have had a good chance at beating my portfolio &#8212;and the rest of the stock market for that matter; you could say that my portfolio generated an approximately 20% alpha. 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In addition to many of the underlying businesses on the equity side continuing to perform well and grow distributable FCF, this income growth is in large part due to the large short-bonds and money market positions that, while being a drag on overall portfolio performance, have benefited from the Fed&#8217;s dramatic rate hikes. </p><p>Overall, I find these results to be acceptable and continue to stick to my investing strategy, which appears to be working fine when inspecting the overall positive balance of the natural growth or decline of individual positions. </p><p>My general strategy is described in greater detail here: </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;96c07793-3e18-4379-a5ff-f6695b246228&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;For several years I lived on a steep hillside in a decrepit summer cottage that had what a real estate agent called &#8220;charm.&#8221; Which meant it was a shack with a view. 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>Oaktree&#8217;s Howard Marks recommends a combination of #2, #3, and #6</em>).</p><p>I continue to think that the stars of the market indexes (the FAANGs and now Tesla and Nvidia) have already percolated to the top of the indexes&#8217; concentrations at this point and attracted commensurate attention and fund flows &#8212;and that they continue to do so in an unhealthy/imprudent feedback loop. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bPqC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6209c58a-6d84-4b07-98ec-7c8f77942578_584x683.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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An infinite amount? There have been moments when real, live, hands-on professional investors have entertained dreams as wild as that &#8212;moments when the laws of probability are forgotten. In the late 1960s and early 1970s, major institutional portfolio managers became so enamored with the idea of growth in general, and with the so-called &#8216;Nifty-Fifty&#8217; growth stocks in particular, that they were willing to pay any price at all for the privilege of owning shares in companies like Xerox, Coca-Cola, IBM, and Polaroid. <strong>These investment managers defined the risk in the Nifty-Fifty, not as the risk of overpaying, but as the risk of not owning them: the growth prospects seemed so certain that the future level of earnings and dividends would, in God&#8217;s good time, always justify whatever price they paid.</strong></em>&#8221; ~~~ &#8220;Against the Gods&#8221;, Peter L. 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Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;<strong>We both agreed that the stock market had advanced to inordinate heights, that the speculators had gone crazy, that respected investment bankers were indulging in inexcusable highjinks, and that the whole thing would have to end one day in a major crash</strong>. I recall Baruch's commenting on the ridiculous anomaly that combined an 8 percent rate for time-loans on stocks with dividend yields of only 2 percent. To which I replied, "That's true, and by the law of compensation we should expect someday to see the reverse &#8212; 2 percent time- money combined with an 8 percent dividend on good stocks." My prophecy was not far wrong as a picture of 1932 &#8212; and it was borne out precisely, under a different set of market circumstances, some twenty years later. <strong>What seems really strange now is that I could make a prediction of that kind in all seriousness, yet not have the sense to realize the dangers to which I continued to subject the Account's capital</strong>.&#8221; ~~~ Benjamin Graham, <a href="https://archive.org/details/memoirsofdeanofw00grah/page/251/mode/2up?view=theater">https://archive.org/details/memoirsofdeanofw00grah/page/251/mode/2up?view=theater</a></em></p></blockquote><p>For my part, I&#8217;m fine &#8212;for now&#8212; extracting returns from outside of the indexation system and that has so far managed to beat the index in turbulent times and, in more normal times, return well above the 6%/yr performance fee watermark that Warren Buffett initially set for his old hedge fund<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>. Meanwhile, the sizable cash / money market balance stands ready to nibble into any opportunities that might arise (as was done for ITEX and MKTX) while earning risk-free interest yields previously unobtainable over the last decade.  </p><p>Regarding my overall mix of asset classes, I think that micro/small-caps remain the place to be<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a>. Not only are their businesses and reporting generally much easier to understand, but the category also has a lot more baked in pessimism that has created opportunities.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!grRF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18d479c3-76b6-435d-ac39-f684a9e2db55_975x484.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!grRF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F18d479c3-76b6-435d-ac39-f684a9e2db55_975x484.png 424w, 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You look for a job in an industry with a good future, or build a factory where the prospects are best. But my contention is if you&#8217;re selecting publicly traded investment, you have to do the opposite.</em>&#8221; ~~~  Sir John Templeton, <a href="https://acquirersmultiple.com/2020/10/john-templeton-the-principle-of-maximum-pessimism/">https://acquirersmultiple.com/2020/10/john-templeton-the-principle-of-maximum-pessimism/</a>; <a href="https://archive.org/details/sirjohntempleton0000herr/page/138/mode/2up">https://archive.org/details/sirjohntempleton0000herr/page/138/mode/2up</a> </p></blockquote><p>In any case, a bailout by Mr.Market in the form of a re-rating of micro/smallcap valuation multiples is not something I&#8217;m really counting on nor care too much about vs growth and the prospects for the fundamentals in the underlying businesses I own (eg. strengthening sales, FCF/sh, ROIC, BVPS, and reduction of WACC).</p><p>One final thing I&#8217;d like to note: It&#8217;s not as if I think the only way to win is to invest in the &#8220;Majestic 7&#8221; that have been dragging up index returns. There are actually many individual companies beating the indexes, I own a good amount of such companies (as well as a good amount of (for the time being) losers), just not in any incredible size at the moment, but if they continue growing as I expect them to (and I don&#8217;t average down too much in too many incorrect situations) then they will become greater and greater drivers of the portfolio&#8217;s returns in due time and will have earned such leading positions. In this way one could end up with their own unique top-heavy basket of investment out-performers, without the added systemic risk that comes from stock prices that are in large part supported by the massive non-fundamentals-based fund flows of the passive-investing, indexation complex.</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;bf29e5d4-ccc1-4c02-9ee3-17968d053019&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p><em>(How it feels underperforming from outside the indexes; video source: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klcDAPIkXuU">here</a>)</em></p><h1>Largest positions</h1><h3>Cash (% of portfolio: 20%; % gain/loss: 0%)</h3><p>This cash position has certainly been a drag on returns, but for now I&#8217;m fine with collecting the income generated by the highest interest rates in a decade and using it for reinvestment into the portfolio&#8217;s various equity holdings.</p><div 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://energyforgrowth.org/article/how-does-energy-impact-economic-growth-an-overview-of-the-evidence/">https://energyforgrowth.org/article/how-does-energy-impact-economic-growth-an-overview-of-the-evidence/</a></figcaption></figure></div></li><li><p>Liberalization and collapse of the USSR starting in 1987 == a onetime event that brought a lot of commodity supply online to global markets by allowing Western companies / commodity traders (who had access to global physical and capital markets) to come in and take managerial control of commodity production and distribution which was formerly&nbsp;the role of the now-dissolved centralized&nbsp;soviet state. </p><ul><li><p>An uptrend which appears to now be stagnating (<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Russian-conventional-oil-production-based-on-a-compilation-of-historical-sources-for_fig2_262188782">https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Russian-conventional-oil-production-based-on-a-compilation-of-historical-sources-for_fig2_262188782</a>).</p></li></ul></li><li><p>Chinese economic opening in 1978 == a one-time event that brought a lot of low-wage labor supply online to global markets (which is reaching capacity in both physical and political terms) &#8212;that also spawned copy-cats like India, Vietnam, etc. </p><ul><li><p>Not only is this capacity of cheap labor reaching a physical limit, but China is also inching towards isolationism and stimulating domestic consumption, which will affect its degree of exports to the rest of the world &#8212;pursuing controlled decoupling over past goals of overtaking the USA as the world&#8217;s largest economy.</p></li></ul></li><li><p>A 25pps decline in corporate tax rates from the ~45% of the 1980s, which can&#8217;t be duplicated again with corp tax rates now sitting at around 21% &#8212;unless the Overton Window is open for near-0% corporate tax rate (which seems unlikely).</p></li><li><p>A 90% decline in interest rates (read as: decline in companies&#8217; WACC re. investment decisions) from an EFFR of ~15%, to near-zero, and now back to ~5%. Again this trend can&#8217;t be replicated unless the Fed is willing to take the US back to ZIRP.</p></li><li><p>(The relatively more recent) policy of ESG capital allocation across the Western financial system &#8658; reduced available capital for critical (&#8220;legacy&#8220;) commodity investment or at least raising the cost of capital for such investment/financing, while green energy/policies have failed to provide a sustainable transition. This has increased both operating expenses and WACC for commodity-based companies. This further raises the hurdle rate for what projects contribute to &#8220;economic value added&#8221; (= ROIC - WACC). </p></li><li><p>The RU-UA war and sanctions starting in 2022 &#8658; taking both RU and UA commodity supplies offline &#8212;at least to a partial extent when it comes to UA. This conflict has added time (and thus costs) to the global supply chains.</p></li><li><p>We now have conflict in the middle-east stemming from the Israel-Palestine conflict starting in late 2023, causing major supply chain disruptions in the Red Sea &#8212;one of the world&#8217;s busiest shipping lanes.  </p><ul><li><p>These last two items appear to be tied to the larger trend of deglobalization and political breakdown of international trade. I&#8217;ve compiled some info on this idea in an older post here: </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;1f266cf0-ec9a-4432-88aa-f0ad312468fe&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;So, I just finished reading Zoltan Pozsar&#8217;s Bretton Woods 3.0 (BW3) follow-on articles &#8220;Money, Commodities, and Bretton Woods 3&#8221; (MC&amp;BW3) as well as &#8220;War and Industrial Policy&#8221; (W&amp;IP) and &#8212; while I have a few questions about the ultimate conclusions &#8212; wanted to make some quick notes&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;When prices get \&quot;real\&quot; and The Great Re-Everything'ing&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2022-09-24T13:38:13.907Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/h_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff499a7be-75b5-4358-a283-d8127f920add_700x419.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/when-prices-get-real-and-the-great&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:73665699,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div></li></ul></li></ul><p>So whether we have a recession or not, the cost of opex/capex commodities are going to keep going up because of the underlying, long-term factors stated above that have reached either physical or political limits.</p><p>I find this mid-year 2022 interview with mining billionaire Robert Friedland<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> to still be relevant and interesting:</p><div id="youtube2-JE0MlosOFk4" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;JE0MlosOFk4&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:&quot;918s&quot;,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/JE0MlosOFk4?start=918s&amp;rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p> Despite the recent selloff in oil equities from their 2022 highs, my cost basis remains quite well below current prices. I won&#8217;t go too much into these various names as much has already been written about the merits of holding a basket of these asset-light, cash flowing, perpetual commodity call options.</p><p>There is appears to be a significant shift in global sentiment and narratives regarding energy and climate change policies, with skepticism growing about their effectiveness, particularly influenced by changing government actions. The reversal of European governments to coal, wood, and fossil fuels, accompanied by substantial subsidies, has already increased gasoline consumption. The failure of certain climate change policies is resulting in an &#8220;unexpected&#8221; increase in demand for coal, oil, and especially natural gas. It seems very likely that governments and companies, no longer able to hide the inadequacy of green policies, will turn to natural gas as a more viable option, leading to a surge in demand beyond current forecasts. Investments in oil and gas may become more attractive as the narrative shifts away from strict adherence to ESG principles.</p><p>********* <em>UPDATE 20240325: I found this article to be interesting and relevant to the idea of a shift in global sentiment and narratives regarding energy and climate change policies: <a href="https://capitalistexploits.at/the-green-u-turn/">https://capitalistexploits.at/the-green-u-turn/</a></em> **********</p><p>I look at it like this, BSM&#8217;s dividend &#8212;excluding 2020&#8212; has been consistent and yielded around 6-8%. Barring any really wild actions by management (like selling Permian acreage in a panic despite having very little debt, as BSM management did in the 2020 oil crash) or another shale bust of operators, all they need to do is continue to sit there and collect royalty checks on their land; you get constant cash flow while holding a long-duration perpetual call option on future oil prices &#8212;that would also be paid out as a distribution. This goes similarly for VNOM, TPL, and WPM (in the realm of gold streaming, which is slightly different, but the same idea applies).</p><p><em>(My total investment in O&amp;G royalties is closer to ~16% when accounting for VNOM, TPL, and FRMO&#8217;s stake in TPL (via HK Hard Assets LLC and HK LLC))</em></p><p>For some additional interesting reading on royalties and O&amp;G, see:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/BLACK_STONE_MINERALS_LP/5078936356">https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/BLACK_STONE_MINERALS_LP/5078936356</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/BLACK_STONE_MINERALS_LP/7040535210">https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/BLACK_STONE_MINERALS_LP/7040535210</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201211030043/https://horizonkinetics.com/wp-content/uploads/Royalty-Companies-Compilation_Website-Version.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20201211030043/https://horizonkinetics.com/wp-content/uploads/Royalty-Companies-Compilation_Website-Version.pdf</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.macrovoices.com/guest-content/list-guest-transcripts/5141-2023-07-20-transcript-of-the-podcast-interview-between-erik-townsend-and-dr-anas-alhajji/file">https://www.macrovoices.com/guest-content/list-guest-transcripts/5141-2023-07-20-transcript-of-the-podcast-interview-between-erik-townsend-and-dr-anas-alhajji/file</a></p></li></ul><h3>FRMO, FRMO Corp (% of portfolio: 5.15%; % gain/loss: -32.04%)</h3><p>I continue to like FRMO for exposure to inflation beneficiaries and cryptocurrencies managed by intelligent and incentive-aligned owner operators (I&#8217;ll remind readers that Stahl and Bregman draw no salary from FRMO and own the same equity class that all other investors own).</p><p>FRMO is down 22.56% for 2022. This appears to be mostly due to FRMO&#8217;s large TPL stake (down 25.21% for 2022) and the court decision favoring the TPL board of directors in the recent lawsuit that the BoD brought against Horizon Kinetics and Softvest (who themselves are fellow board members) for the sake of enabling themselves to dilute shareholders and rule over a larger empire of assets &#8212;which HK and Softvest resisted voting in favor of.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> </p><p>The controversy centers around the TPL BoD&#8217;s proposal to expand the number of authorized shares outstanding, which would dilute the holdings of existing shareholders. HK and Softvest resisted voting in step with the rest of the board on this matter. The board then filed a lawsuit against HK and Softvest, alleging that they broke the terms of their Stockholder Agreement by refusing to vote in favor of the proposal. HK and Softvest, on the other hand, assert that they are not required to vote in favor of the proposal and that the item should be considered &#8220;non-routine,&#8221; which would mean brokers can&#8217;t vote non-votes<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a>.<sup> </sup>You can read a lot more about this in the blog here:  <a href="https://tpltblog.com/">https://tpltblog.com/</a></p><p><em>(Mr.Market seems to dislike this share issuance idea, but, to be honest, TPL&#8217;s stock trades at an extremely high multiple vs comps and I wouldn&#8217;t be totally opposed to converting that into currency for investments if done by an allocator by whom the cost-of-capital for such share-based deal financing was thoughtfully considered against the possible risk/reward (eg. iff Stahl were elected CEO))</em>.</p><p>FRMO also owns 4.95% of Horizon Kinetics LLC which is set to go public some time next year via reverse merger with Scott&#8217;s Liquid Gold (SLGD).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a></p><p>Based on the merger agreement document, here&#8217;s how I understand the deal is going to work:</p><ul><li><p>HK LLC is being acquired by Scott's Liquid Gold in an all-stock transaction. </p></li><li><p>HK LLC will be merged into a wholly owned subsidiary of Scott&#8217;s Liquid Gold called HKNY One, LLC. After the merger, HK LLC will be become a wholly owned subsidiary of Scott's Liquid Gold.</p></li><li><p>At this point SLGD will be controlled by Horizon Kinetics as &#8220;<em>the Company is obligated to expand its Board to seven members, with all but one of its existing directors resigning, and the remaining seats filled by candidates selected by Horizon Kinetics.</em>&#8221;</p></li><li><p>The merger consideration that HK LLC members will receive is stock in Scott's Liquid Gold. The number of Scott's Liquid Gold shares will be determined based on a formula that values HK LLC using its net tangible assets plus a valuation of its operating business<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a>. <em>(Note that the HK ownership interest is set to be priced at $1.25/sh and that SLGD shares currently trade at a ~30% discount to that price)</em>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dHMH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789ad843-9958-40c2-ae97-f6de355a226e_1816x364.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dHMH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789ad843-9958-40c2-ae97-f6de355a226e_1816x364.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dHMH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789ad843-9958-40c2-ae97-f6de355a226e_1816x364.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dHMH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789ad843-9958-40c2-ae97-f6de355a226e_1816x364.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dHMH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789ad843-9958-40c2-ae97-f6de355a226e_1816x364.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dHMH!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789ad843-9958-40c2-ae97-f6de355a226e_1816x364.png" width="1200" height="240.65934065934067" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/789ad843-9958-40c2-ae97-f6de355a226e_1816x364.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:292,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:99098,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dHMH!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789ad843-9958-40c2-ae97-f6de355a226e_1816x364.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dHMH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789ad843-9958-40c2-ae97-f6de355a226e_1816x364.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dHMH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789ad843-9958-40c2-ae97-f6de355a226e_1816x364.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dHMH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F789ad843-9958-40c2-ae97-f6de355a226e_1816x364.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div></li></ul><p><em>(&#8220;Under the Merger Agreement, the value of the Horizon Kinetics operating business is (i) stipulated to be $200 million if and only if Horizon Kinetics&#8217; regulatory assets under management (&#8220;AUM&#8221;) are between $6 billion and $8 billion, and (ii) otherwise is calculated by multiplying AUM by a factor of 0.03.&#8221;)</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a></p><ul><li><p>As a 4.95% owner of HK LLC, FRMO&#8217;s ownership should be converted into shares of Scott's Liquid Gold at the determined exchange ratio. FRMO becomes a shareholder of Scott&#8217;s Liquid Gold rather than an owner of HK LLC; the name will probably be changed to something more related to Horizon Kinetics.</p></li><li><p>The transaction is structured as a tax-free reorganization, so there should be no taxable gains for HK LLC members unless they sell the Scott's Liquid Gold shares received.</p></li></ul><p>Also useful to keep in mind that a lot of HK's AUM is TPL<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a>. Will be interesting to see the conversation around that once HK is public and the issue becomes an investment-merit one. In any case, I wouldn&#8217;t sell FRMO to buy HK &#8212;even given the existing discount&#8212; as the planned destinations for the two businesses are quite different. Management has remarked many times that FRMO is planned to become an operating business (mostly likely relating to crypto via Winland Holdings)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a> vs the current holding company model it has today whereas HK is primarily an asset management company.</p><p>Here&#8217;s a rough valuation scratch-work of FRMO&#8217;s value as of Dec 31 2022, taking into account the median Total Company Value of HK LLC in the merger agreement:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dNwC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe8be6e-7f5c-43f4-9696-886deb945c14_1528x552.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dNwC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe8be6e-7f5c-43f4-9696-886deb945c14_1528x552.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dNwC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe8be6e-7f5c-43f4-9696-886deb945c14_1528x552.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dNwC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe8be6e-7f5c-43f4-9696-886deb945c14_1528x552.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dNwC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe8be6e-7f5c-43f4-9696-886deb945c14_1528x552.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dNwC!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe8be6e-7f5c-43f4-9696-886deb945c14_1528x552.png" width="1200" height="433.5164835164835" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7fe8be6e-7f5c-43f4-9696-886deb945c14_1528x552.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:526,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:202439,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dNwC!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe8be6e-7f5c-43f4-9696-886deb945c14_1528x552.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dNwC!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe8be6e-7f5c-43f4-9696-886deb945c14_1528x552.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dNwC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe8be6e-7f5c-43f4-9696-886deb945c14_1528x552.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dNwC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe8be6e-7f5c-43f4-9696-886deb945c14_1528x552.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I&#8217;ve written more about FRMO here:</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;532c06f5-ce75-479a-9651-5c5d72c74aa3&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;********** UPDATE 20230815: It&#8217;s been a while since I initially wrote this post and I&#8217;ve realized that I don&#8217;t do a great job of distinguishing between calendar and fiscal years when referencing FRMO&#8217;s financial statements, which is an important distinction to make since FRMO&#8217;s fiscal year does not match the calendar year. You can read a bit about the w&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($FRMO) FRMO Corp: A uniquely managed OTC jockey-stock hedged for inflation and with incoming catalysts&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2021-11-19T02:32:18.153Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/h_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9392cb9-3c41-4777-9386-36f7c2a318e5_625x406.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/frmo-an-underfollowed-jockey-based&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:44213980,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:2,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><h3>The RENN Fund, RCG (% of portfolio: 4.77%; % gain/loss: -1.99%)</h3><p>The main macroeconomic view of the RENN Fund is &#8220;<em>a shift from declining interest rates and minimal reported inflation to static or slightly rising rates and inflation well above trend.</em>&#8221; (I think it's also rather impressive to note that this statement was made in mid-2020, before the drastic rate hikes of 2022).</p><p>If you don&#8217;t agree with that macro view &#8212;or don&#8217;t want that <em>probability</em> hedged by Murray Stahl&#8212; then you wouldn&#8217;t want to invest in the fund. However, I can&#8217;t help but think of the Steve Jobs quote (which also reminds me a lot of Andrew Carnegie&#8217;s) that &#8220;[i]<em>t doesn&#8217;t make sense to hire smart people and then tell them what to do; we hire smart people so they can tell us what to do.</em>&#8221; This is my intention in having Stahl manage my capital in this heavily discounted, (reasonably) diversified, incentive-aligned, income-generating fund.</p><p>With my existing allocation in FRMO, this puts the total amount of portfolio capital in the hands of Murray Stahl and the HK complex at around 10%. I&#8217;m very fine with this other than the major key-man risk it creates around someone who is a few years beyond that required to be classified as a senior citizen by Medicare standards &#8212;though I take some comfort in the fact that Carl Icahn, Howard Marks, and the Berkshire chairmen are at least a decade older than Stahl and still doing their thing.</p><p>The shares are quite illiquid, but I&#8217;ve had pretty good luck in getting my orders filled at around 20-24% discounts to the fund&#8217;s NAV.</p><p>Now, regarding the reverse merger of HK LLC, one could argue that it would be better to sell held RCG shares and buy SLGD shares for the even greater discount in the business that actually manages the fund itself. Theoretically, this business should do better than than the fund-holders since the business is valued in a pro rata fashion to their AUM with the added benefit of receiving management fees. If you own shares of Kinetics open-ended mutual funds, then this might make sense. However, for the RENN Fund in particular, I think that it probably makes sense to continue to hold shares as 1) RENN holders are not presently charged any management fee by HK and 2) the fund gives much more direct exposure to HK&#8217;s private equity ideas. These PE investments are only already relatively small and illiquid portions of the RENN Fund itself and the impact of their performance would even more diluted if one were trying to gain exposure to them through owning overall HK LLC business &#8212;which does not hold these PE investments in any of their other funds, so far as I am aware.   </p><p>I&#8217;ve written more about RCG here:</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;49842f47-9cc1-4340-9938-b721875074cd&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&#8220;If I was running $1 million today, or $10 million for that matter, I&#8217;d be fully invested. Anyone who says that size does not hurt investment performance is selling. The highest rates of return I&#8217;ve ever achieved were in the 1950s. I killed the Dow. You ought to see the numbers. But I was investing peanuts then. It&#8217;s a huge structural advantage not to h&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($RCG) The RENN Fund: A diversified and discounted permanent-capital nanocap with a lot of optionality (and a few private companies), being run for free by smart allocators.&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2023-03-11T00:45:40.917Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe50b2e-03f5-4f49-b374-faaf093fe55a_830x549.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/rcg-the-renn-fund-a-discounted-stahl&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:105997445,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:3,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><h3>APi Group, APG (% of portfolio: 4.08%; % gain/loss: 96.09%)</h3><p>Ultimately, I think of APG like <strong>a diversified portfolio / PE &#8220;</strong><em><strong>fund&#8221;</strong></em><strong> of statutorily-mandated fire and life safety businesses with some very reputable insider owners &#8212;</strong>though I certainly look askance at some of their compensation&#8212; but (future M&amp;A that Becker and the Jarden gang may find in the future) I think the stock is likely trading around fair value at this time, so I see no reason to add to the existing position for now (especially given the lack of a dividend cash-back despite management&#8217;s lauding of APG&#8217;s asset-light nature).</p><p>I&#8217;ve written more about APG here:</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;4beb92b0-c127-485d-a8b9-bf238237c206&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;Intro History Some commentary on the J2 SPAC and the incentives structure A quick note Viking Global Investors Business Life and fire safety Specialty services Strategy Decentralized Rollups/bolt-ons GTM inspection-to-monitoring cross-sell pipeline The Jarden vets&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($APG) APi Group: From Jarden to J2; Sir Martin Franklin's mission critical, fire safety 'fund'&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2023-07-05T12:58:05.465Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F30899f1a-5843-40d2-a859-062bfe6856c1_972x640.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/apg-api-group-quick-commentary&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:130821363,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><h3>Grayscale Bitcoin Trust, GBTC (% of portfolio: 7.14%; % gain/loss: 158.67%)</h3><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20240111: Well, looks like the Bitcoin spot ETFs have been approved. See <a href="https://www.sec.gov/news/statement/gensler-statement-spot-bitcoin-011023">https://www.sec.gov/news/statement/gensler-statement-spot-bitcoin-011023</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1588489/000095017024004265/0000950170-24-004265-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1588489/000095017024004265/0000950170-24-004265-index.html</a></em> </p><p><em>It appears that Bitwise and VanEck plan to donate a portion of their profits from their spot ETF offerings to the continued Bitcoin Core development (<a href="https://cryptopotato.com/bitwise-to-donate-10-of-bitcoin-etf-profits-to-btc-open-source-development/">https://cryptopotato.com/bitwise-to-donate-10-of-bitcoin-etf-profits-to-btc-open-source-development/</a>).</em></p><p>**********</p><p>I group both GBTC and WELX (% of portfolio 1.5%; % gain/loss: 67.30%) together because they are both purely bets on BTC. </p><p>In the previous commentary I mentioned how the conversion of GBTC into an ETF was becoming increasingly likely as other larger institutions appeared to be positioning themselves to launch their own spot ETFs. Since that time, BTC prices have gone from $30K to around $45K as the probability of approval for multiple spot BTC ETFs by 2024 has grown; the resignation of GBTC&#8217;s longtime CEO Barry Silbert and elimination of in-kind redemption is peculiar<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a>, but I&#8217;m not sure what to make of it at this time<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wvql!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca75d019-7836-4737-bb5b-d1c17ad45681_960x540.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Around 40% of Winland is owned by Horizon Kinetics &#8212;who continues buying shares every quarter&#8212; and it&#8217;s CEO is an HK employee. HK&#8217;s founder, Murray Stahl, had this to say about WELX in a recent conference call: </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>[W]inland continues to mine and to build its cryptocurrency balances. One thing I should say about Winland is that it can be thought of almost like a quasi-bitcoin ETF. When you buy a bitcoin ETF, if there were a bitcoin ETF, you should be aware of the fee impact. <strong>Unlike a mutual fund or an ordinary ETF, bitcoin pays no dividends that can be used to pay the operator&#8217;s fees. Therefore, if there were a bitcoin ETF, the operator, each and every quarter or probably every month, would have to sell some bitcoin to pay the fees. [&#8230;] For Winland, as you can see, and a reason we read these statements, [unlike with a traditional BTC ETF] the number of coins increases every quarter, because we mine it.</strong> So, which would you rather have? Would you rather have a cryptocurrency ETF in which the coin balance diminishes or would you rather have an investment where the coins increase? <strong>I believe the day will come when there are bitcoin ETFs, and there are investors who are going to understand the distinction between the two classes.</strong></em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p>Most of my GBTC cost basis is from when BTC was trading at or below the $18-$25K range and the GBTC discount to NAV was closer to 40-50%, thus the 150% return as the discount has closed in addition to the recovery in BTC price this year. Nearly all of my existing WELX stock was bought when WELX was trading around $2-$2.15/sh.</p><p>I&#8217;ve written a <em>bit</em> more on GBTC and WELX (with some updated valuation estimates) in certain sections of the post here:</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;b641f33c-8e6b-46ab-a8a0-c11d099f9236&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;********** UPDATE 20231225: Some updated thoughts on the value of Winland Holdings (WELX)&#8230; So let's say WELX has a total look-through ownership of 135BTC (75BTC on the B/S + the Mt.Gox claims that I assume is 60BTC) and that number is always slowly rising. 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Looking at the Table 5. Projected minimum common equity tier 1 capital ratios for stressed ratios with supervisory stress testing capital action assumptions, SCHW has the highest capital ratios among all 31 large banks in the stress test. In Figure 5, SCHW is the only bank (other than Bank of NY-Mellon) projected to have CET1 ratio increases vs it&#8217;s starting 2023:Q4 number even in a severe adverse scenario, while in Figure 6 and Table 8, SCHW is projected as being one of the few banks to see their pre-tax net income rates increase, maintaining positive pre-tax income in the severely adverse scenario. Table 10 shows SCHW as having the lowest projected loan portfolio loss rate among the banks in the stress test as well. While their pre-provision net revenue to average assets ratio in the stress test scenario is lower then the median (1.5% vs median of 1.9%), it is still positive and the report itself notes that the ratio of PPNR to average assets varies across banks largely due to differences in business focus (note that Schwab focuses mainly on wealth management and bank sweeps on it&#8217;s brokerage accounts rather more traditional retail banking)</em>. **********</p><p>I don&#8217;t really have a lot to say about this position beyond the fact that I wanted to take the opportunity during the early-2023 banking crisis<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a> to buy <em>something</em>. My broker is Schwab, so it was an obvious invest-in-what-you-use candidate.</p><p>When I initially bought the equity, the stock was around the $50-$55/sh range and remained there for most of the year. I later de-risked my cost basis by selling the equity for a &gt;1% loss and buying long-dated call options for a similar underlying interest in terms of number of shares and strike price, but for a fraction of the capital-at-risk.</p><p>I wrote more about Schwab in my semi-annual portfolio review here: <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/123907428/schw-charles-schwab-corp">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/123907428/schw-charles-schwab-corp</a></p><p>One might also be interested in this writeup from Holland Advisors in late 2020 which goes much deeper into the interesting dynamics of the business: <a href="https://hollandadvisors.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Schwab-Gorilla-in-the-midst-1220.pdf">https://hollandadvisors.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Schwab-Gorilla-in-the-midst-1220.pdf</a></p><h1>Some cost-basis-weighted top gainers</h1><h3>GBTC, Grayscale Bitcoin Trust / WELX, Winland Holdings (+158.67% / +67.30%):</h3><p>(See previous section)</p><h3>APG, APi Group (+96.09%):</h3><p>(See previous section)</p><h3>TGH, Textainer Group Holdings (+59.76%):</h3><p>I initially found Textainer Group while I was looking around for anything in the shipping industry that paid a dividend and <em>smelled</em> anything like the asset-light mineral royalty businesses that I was investing in in 2022. TGH is a container lessor focused on long-term contracts to provide dry and refrigerated shipping containers to liner companies. The company stands to benefit from strong container demand and ongoing logistics congestion. Textainer signed extremely long-term leases (10-14 years) in 2021 at very high rates, thus securing cashflows and cashflow visibility for the next decade. This shift to ultra-long leases has improved the quality of TGH&#8217;s cash flows (now more stable and recurring). The company also reinstated it&#8217;s regular dividend in 2021. These contracts would roll over legacy contracts in 2022-2023, boosting earnings. </p><p>Through most of 2022, which is when I was buying the stock, Textainer traded in the low to mid $30s at around a 5x P/E as if the market were pricing in a cyclical peak despite the company having secured long-dated cash flows. Then, in 2023, infrastructure fund Stonepeak agreed to buy the shipping container lessor for $2.1bn with Textainer shareholders set to receive $50/sh in cash (<a href="https://seekingalpha.com/news/4022645-stonepeak-nears-purchase-of-shipping-container-firm-textainer-for-50-a-share-wsj">https://seekingalpha.com/news/4022645-stonepeak-nears-purchase-of-shipping-container-firm-textainer-for-50-a-share-wsj</a>). I was happy to hold the stock for the dividend as the company continued to hedge my portfolio against continued supply chain issues, but the buyout provides a nice IRR and interest rates make cash no longer a pain to hold on to.</p><h1>Some cost-basis-weighted top losers</h1><h3>FRMO, FRMO Corp (-32.04%):</h3><p>(See previous section)</p><h3>PMD, Psychemedics Corp (-45.06%):</h3><p>Psychemedics is the leading hair drug testing company with decades of strong profitability. The stock traded at a steep discount due to the COVID19 pandemic&#8217;s effect on hiring in 2020-2021 as well as an unprofitable exploration of the Brazil market that was a drag on margins since 2016. Psychemedics had expanded into Brazil in 2016 which initially boosted revenue but hurt margins as the less developed regulatory environment in the country was not conducive to supporting any kind of regulation-based barriers to entry; PMD could not leverage their certifications or legal expertise in the hair drug testing domain. In 2019 the company began pulling back from Brazil operations (<a href="https://investors.psychemedics.com/sec-filings-and-press-releases/news-releases/news-details/2019/Psychemedics-Corporation-Announces-New-Brazilian-Distribution-Agreement/default.aspx">https://investors.psychemedics.com/sec-filings-and-press-releases/news-releases/news-details/2019/Psychemedics-Corporation-Announces-New-Brazilian-Distribution-Agreement/default.aspx</a>). </p><p>In the long-run, Psychemedics is poised to benefit as hair testing gains broader regulatory acceptance and displaces urine testing.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iiha!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f4a162c-0c09-4cb6-8f97-c13ac0a5c0be_673x109.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iiha!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f4a162c-0c09-4cb6-8f97-c13ac0a5c0be_673x109.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iiha!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f4a162c-0c09-4cb6-8f97-c13ac0a5c0be_673x109.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iiha!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f4a162c-0c09-4cb6-8f97-c13ac0a5c0be_673x109.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iiha!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f4a162c-0c09-4cb6-8f97-c13ac0a5c0be_673x109.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iiha!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f4a162c-0c09-4cb6-8f97-c13ac0a5c0be_673x109.png" width="673" height="109" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5f4a162c-0c09-4cb6-8f97-c13ac0a5c0be_673x109.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:109,&quot;width&quot;:673,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:27245,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iiha!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f4a162c-0c09-4cb6-8f97-c13ac0a5c0be_673x109.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iiha!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f4a162c-0c09-4cb6-8f97-c13ac0a5c0be_673x109.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iiha!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f4a162c-0c09-4cb6-8f97-c13ac0a5c0be_673x109.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iiha!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f4a162c-0c09-4cb6-8f97-c13ac0a5c0be_673x109.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://truckingalliance.org/new-study-finds-gaping-hole-in-dot-drug-testing-results/">https://truckingalliance.org/new-study-finds-gaping-hole-in-dot-drug-testing-results/</a>)</em> </p><p>The company has also begun shifting away from marijuana (which is becoming increasingly accepted by workplaces) and towards fentanyl testing (<a href="https://www.psychemedics.com/blog/2023/10/psychemedics-introduces-advanced-5-panel-drug-screen/">https://www.psychemedics.com/blog/2023/10/psychemedics-introduces-advanced-5-panel-drug-screen/</a>).</p><p>Between March and April 2022, micro-cap superinvestor Peter Kamin bought 624737 shares (~10% of total outstanding shares) worth a total of ~$4.2MM at prices ranging from $6.50-$6.88/sh and was later elected to the board of directors (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184323004595/0001171843-23-004595-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806517/000117184323004595/0001171843-23-004595-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.citybiz.co/article/276997/psychemedics-nominates-peter-kamin-and-darius-nevin-to-serve-as-members-of-its-board/">https://www.citybiz.co/article/276997/psychemedics-nominates-peter-kamin-and-darius-nevin-to-serve-as-members-of-its-board/</a>).</p><p>In December of that year PMD stock fell slightly as the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) denied a request to allow for standalone hair testing, saying it lacked authority to permit hair testing as an alternative until the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) established federal hair testing standards (<a href="https://ehsdailyadvisor.blr.com/2022/12/fmcsa-denies-request-for-drug-use-hair-testing/">https://ehsdailyadvisor.blr.com/2022/12/fmcsa-denies-request-for-drug-use-hair-testing/</a>). This, coupled with Kamin&#8217;s insider buying at the higher basis, persuaded me into what was effectively a follow-the-leader investment at a cost basis around the $5/sh range.</p><p>On Aug 11, 2023Q2, the company reported a 15% drop in revenues and eliminated their regular dividend (<a href="https://investors.psychemedics.com/sec-filings-and-press-releases/news-releases/news-details/2023/Psychemedics-Corporation-Reports-Second-Quarter-2023-Financial-Results/default.aspx">https://investors.psychemedics.com/sec-filings-and-press-releases/news-releases/news-details/2023/Psychemedics-Corporation-Reports-Second-Quarter-2023-Financial-Results/default.aspx</a>). That same month, PMD approved a transition plan for the Company&#8217;s new President and CEO position (<a href="https://investors.psychemedics.com/sec-filings-and-press-releases/news-releases/news-details/2023/Psychemedics-Corporation-Announces-CEO-Succession-Plan/default.aspx">https://investors.psychemedics.com/sec-filings-and-press-releases/news-releases/news-details/2023/Psychemedics-Corporation-Announces-CEO-Succession-Plan/default.aspx</a>). These events (especially the dividend cut) appear to have been the cause of the stock then falling from around $5/sh down to $3/sh in the ensuing months.</p><p>Nothing about the present situation seems to warrant selling the stock and I continue to monitor Kamin and the CEO&#8217;s actions at the company. A transition to a special-dividend-based cash distribution mechanism and a delisting to the OTC markets for lower listing costs (which I think would be a better time to average down than in the present dip that PMD stock is seeing) would not be out a surprise given Kamin&#8217;s involvement.</p><p>What one would really want to see here is US Health and Human Services allowing hair testing as a standalone test for the trucking industry. As it stands, federal regulators do not currently allow carriers to submit hair test results to the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration&#8217;s Drug and Alcohol Clearinghouse without a corresponding positive urine or saliva test (<a href="https://www.freightwaves.com/news/trucking-group-study-supports-greater-use-of-hair-tests-for-truckers">https://www.freightwaves.com/news/trucking-group-study-supports-greater-use-of-hair-tests-for-truckers</a>). Such an approval would be a big tailwind for the company. </p><h3>VIRT, Virtu Financial (-24.58%):</h3><p>Virtu Financial is the only publicly-traded US market-making firm; I bought shares in early 2022 at around the $25-$27/sh range. It was trading at an attractive valuation of ~8x P/E at the time with a 5% dividend yield and a track record of being a net buyer of their own stock. With the surge in commission-free retail trading starting around 2019, I expected VIRT to benefit from cultural/generational shift towards permanently higher trading volumes &#8212;as opposed what some may have thought to be a temporary phenomenon caused by the massive stimulus in 2020&#8212; as well as act as a nice volatility hedge/beneficiary that paid you to hold onto it in the less volatile times as well. </p><p>In the time since, the VIX has trended downwards (falling ~50% from a high of around 30 in March 2022 to around 12 as of my writing this) and with it, VIRT&#8217;s market-making revenues. I think that increasing uncertainty around macro events/conflict around the world and central banks dealing with interest rates will generate increased volatility going forward, so I&#8217;m fine with continuing to hold the stock for now and collecting the dividends.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/fund/iwc#:~:text=Investment%20Policy,$50%20million%20to%20$550%20million.">https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/fund/iwc#:~:text=Investment%20Policy,$50%20million%20to%20$550%20million.</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Given that the cash investments have been there since 2022 while some of the equities were only bought during 2023, it&#8217;s hard do an exact calculation of how much the total performance would have been improved.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>See <a href="https://realinvestmentadvice.com/analysts-are-always-bullish-for-a-simple-reason/">https://realinvestmentadvice.com/analysts-are-always-bullish-for-a-simple-reason/</a>.</p><blockquote><p><em>Over time, stocks go up more often than they go down. In fact, stocks go up about 80% of the time. However, it is the 20% of the time they go down that is the problem. As shown below, over the entire market history, on a buy-and-hold basis, stocks only make new highs about 15% of the time. The rest of the time, they are making up for previous losses</em>.</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YrbS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7de88f58-cfee-4ff1-aaea-defa246350a8_856x460.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YrbS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7de88f58-cfee-4ff1-aaea-defa246350a8_856x460.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YrbS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7de88f58-cfee-4ff1-aaea-defa246350a8_856x460.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YrbS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7de88f58-cfee-4ff1-aaea-defa246350a8_856x460.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YrbS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7de88f58-cfee-4ff1-aaea-defa246350a8_856x460.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YrbS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7de88f58-cfee-4ff1-aaea-defa246350a8_856x460.png" width="856" height="460" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7de88f58-cfee-4ff1-aaea-defa246350a8_856x460.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:460,&quot;width&quot;:856,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Stock market history of new highs versus recoveries.&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Stock market history of new highs versus recoveries." title="Stock market history of new highs versus recoveries." srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YrbS!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7de88f58-cfee-4ff1-aaea-defa246350a8_856x460.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YrbS!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7de88f58-cfee-4ff1-aaea-defa246350a8_856x460.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YrbS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7de88f58-cfee-4ff1-aaea-defa246350a8_856x460.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YrbS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7de88f58-cfee-4ff1-aaea-defa246350a8_856x460.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>So, one can slowly accumulate good businesses in the &#8212;relatively&#8212; calm periods and save dry powder fire large barrages when there&#8217;s blood in the streets. From &#8220;The Great Depression: A Diary&#8221; by Benjamin Roth&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fL35!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3302ce74-0b39-406a-8b81-d46cadaac8b8_473x284.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fL35!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3302ce74-0b39-406a-8b81-d46cadaac8b8_473x284.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fL35!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3302ce74-0b39-406a-8b81-d46cadaac8b8_473x284.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fL35!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3302ce74-0b39-406a-8b81-d46cadaac8b8_473x284.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fL35!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3302ce74-0b39-406a-8b81-d46cadaac8b8_473x284.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fL35!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3302ce74-0b39-406a-8b81-d46cadaac8b8_473x284.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://archive.org/details/greatdepressiond0000roth/page/232/mode/2up">https://archive.org/details/greatdepressiond0000roth/page/232/mode/2up</a>)</em></p><p> </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.investors.com/news/sp-500-magnificent-seven-stocks-had-a-huge-2023-all-are-near-buy-points-heading-into-2024/">https://www.investors.com/news/sp-500-magnificent-seven-stocks-had-a-huge-2023-all-are-near-buy-points-heading-into-2024/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.capitalallocators.com/active-management-today-is-a-single-decision/">https://www.capitalallocators.com/active-management-today-is-a-single-decision/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-warren-buffetts-real-biggest-mistake-2010-10">https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-warren-buffetts-real-biggest-mistake-2010-10</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.msci.com/www/quick-take/mind-the-gap-in-small-and-large/04122437276">https://www.msci.com/www/quick-take/mind-the-gap-in-small-and-large/04122437276</a>; <a href="https://www.royceinvest.com/insights/small-cap-interview">https://www.royceinvest.com/insights/small-cap-interview</a>; <a href="https://geoinvesting.com/capitalizing-on-inefficiencies-a-reflection-on-damsel-in-distressed-by-dominique-mielle/">https://geoinvesting.com/capitalizing-on-inefficiencies-a-reflection-on-damsel-in-distressed-by-dominique-mielle/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>To anyone who&#8217;s read Bruce Bueno de Mesquita&#8217;s &#8220;The Dictator&#8217;s Handbook&#8221;, you know that there can often be instances where &#8220;governments&#8221; are perfectly fine with a low GDP per captia and, in fact, happier with a more miserable and demoralized citizenry &#8212;so long as they can continue to perform necessary labor. Such engineered/intentional scarcity make it easier to consolidate and retain power, more selectively dole out resources to in-groups, while lowering the risk of rebellion/activism and the risk of emergence of competing elites from any middle-class groups who may be far enough from power to not benefit enough from it and far enough from poverty to spend excess time and energy tackling the issue.  </p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>As a relevant aside, there&#8217;s an interesting older Founders episode, by David Senra, covering Robert Friedland (a lot of it not very flattering (which makes it even better and more interesting, IMO)): <a href="https://www.joincolossus.com/episodes/73597954/senra-robert-friedland-the-big-score?tab=shownotes">https://www.joincolossus.com/episodes/73597954/senra-robert-friedland-the-big-score?tab=shownotes</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://tpltblog.com/2023/12/04/deemed-vote-in-favor-8-k/">https://tpltblog.com/2023/12/04/deemed-vote-in-favor-8-k/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.texaspacific.com/investors/news-events/press-releases/detail/151/delaware-court-of-chancery-rules-in-favor-of-texas-pacific">https://www.texaspacific.com/investors/news-events/press-releases/detail/151/delaware-court-of-chancery-rules-in-favor-of-texas-pacific</a></p><p><a href="https://tpltblog.com/2023/12/">https://tpltblog.com/2023/12/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://seekingalpha.com/article/4606649-a-boring-look-at-texas-pacific-land-corp-litigation-against-horizon-kinetics">https://seekingalpha.com/article/4606649-a-boring-look-at-texas-pacific-land-corp-litigation-against-horizon-kinetics</a></p><p><a href="https://www.law360.com/articles/1554265/texas-land-co-investors-call-share-expansion-a-power-grab">https://www.law360.com/articles/1554265/texas-land-co-investors-call-share-expansion-a-power-grab</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-27/wild-west-era-permian-powerhouse-sues-its-own-investors-over-strategy">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-27/wild-west-era-permian-powerhouse-sues-its-own-investors-over-strategy</a></p><p><a href="https://tpltblog.com/2022/11/23/back-to-delaware/">https://tpltblog.com/2022/11/23/back-to-delaware/</a></p><p><a href="https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/texas-pacific-holdout-investors-say-stock-decision-was-deceiving">https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/texas-pacific-holdout-investors-say-stock-decision-was-deceiving</a></p><p><a href="https://www.law360.com/real-estate-authority/other/articles/1552233/tplc-sues-to-uphold-deal-with-investors-after-proxy-fight">https://www.law360.com/real-estate-authority/other/articles/1552233/tplc-sues-to-uphold-deal-with-investors-after-proxy-fight</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/slgd-ex99_1.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/slgd-ex99_1.htm</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/slgd-20231219.htm">https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/88000/000095017023072802/slgd-20231219.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>More perspective on HK LLC&#8217;s value can be gleaned from the <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023.pdf">FRMO 2023 annual letter</a> released on September 6, 2023:</p><blockquote><p><em>In the interim, active management does not obtain a very high valuation, even using GAAP accounting on the FRMO financial statements. The balance sheet value of Horizon Kinetics in the FRMO financial statements is $14,607,525. The FRMO interest in Horizon Kinetics is 4.95%. <strong>The valuation of Horizon Kinetics in its entirety can be obtained by dividing $14,607,525 by 0.0495, or $295,101,515</strong>. </em></p><p><em>However, as of March 31, 2023, hard assets comprised almost exclusively of cash and marketable securities account for $134,986,973 of the Horizon Kinetics balance sheet. If this sum is subtracted from the prior Horizon Kinetics value of $295,101,515, <strong>one arrives at a figure of $160,114,542. This is, in principle, the value of the asset management portion of Horizon Kinetics. It would be equal to about 2.28% of assets under management</strong>. This is surely not a high figure and certainly less than the historical norm for active asset managers. Of course, every active asset manager, including Horizon Kinetics, must contend with the business challenges of the growing share of passive management and the fee compression that inevitably accompanies that growing share.</em></p><p><em> If one were to use the $160 million valuation in relation to Horizon Kinetics revenue for the 12 months ended March 31, 20233 , and compare this to the $64.814 million of Horizon Kinetics revenue for the 12 months ended March 31, 2023, then Horizon Kinetics is trading at 2.46x trailing revenue. The price to revenue ratio of the S&amp;P 500 at the time of this writing is 2.48x. Thus, <strong>Horizon Kinetics has virtually the same price to revenue ratio as the S&amp;P 500. However, arguably, it has far more operating leverage in the success mode</strong>.</em></p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This method for valuing asset management companies is apparently some kind of rule of thumb:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>The general rule of thumb in the world of investment management is to say an asset management company is worth 3% of assets under management.</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p><a href="https://www.morovisconti.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Asset-Management-companies-Valuation.pdf">https://www.morovisconti.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Asset-Management-companies-Valuation.pdf</a></p><p><a href="https://mercercapital.com/riavaluationinsights/practice-management/valuation-of-asset-management-firms/">https://mercercapital.com/riavaluationinsights/practice-management/valuation-of-asset-management-firms/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.morningstar.com/funds/fund-shop-bets-ranch-one-stock">https://www.morningstar.com/funds/fund-shop-bets-ranch-one-stock</a></p><p>Perhaps it could make a bit of sense to sell TPL stock and buy SLGD stock as a kind of discounted TPL derivative. I&#8217;d have to think about this idea a bit more&#8230; </p><p>SLGD will merge with Horizon Kinetics, giving it exposure to HK&#8217;s asset management business and a significant, though indirect, exposure to TPL through HK&#8217;s funds (about 30% of AUM is TPL stock). Asset managers often trade at valuations linked to their assets under management (generally valued at 3% of AUM). So in theory, SLGD could be viewed as a way to get exposure to TPL at a discount. (If you had 5% of a portfolio in TPL, you&#8217;d need to move a whole (.05/.30=)16% of the portfolio into HK LLC for an <em>equivalent</em> exposure). However, asset management comes with it&#8217;s own specific risks &#8212;ones that are quite different fundamentals of TPL. These include volatile markets and other trends or events that could cause capital outflows and could hurt HK&#8217;s AUM and profitability.</p><p>IDK.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>From the 2023 FRMO annual meeting:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Now, we&#8217;re up to about 35% [ownership] of Winland. If for whatever reason we ever got to 50%, under the rules, we could consolidate it. Little by little, step by step, we&#8217;re developing an operating company. [&#8230;] It&#8217;s better, for a whole series of reasons, to be an operating company. We&#8217;ll still have investments. But for the future, and for all sorts of other reasons, it&#8217;s much better if we have a company that has operating earnings. One reason I'll touch on, for the people who follow us, is that it'll be a source of cash flow. Otherwise, then it's just a fund that sells Investment A to buy Investment B, and if investors are going to follow our approach to their long-term investments, we want to hold them basically for decades&#8212;maybe, hopefully, centuries. So, the investments might not throw off enough cash to fund new investments, so we're going to have to have an operating business. And I think that would be better for the valuation as well.</em>&#8221;</p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grayscale-says-barry-silbert-resigns-141826015.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grayscale-says-barry-silbert-resigns-141826015.html</a></p><p><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sec-prefers-cash-redemption-models-011928806.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sec-prefers-cash-redemption-models-011928806.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/barry-silbert-resigns-from-grayscale-board-ahead-crucial-bitcoin-bk6ye/">https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/barry-silbert-resigns-from-grayscale-board-ahead-crucial-bitcoin-bk6ye/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.thestreet.com/banking/american-banking-crisis">https://www.thestreet.com/banking/american-banking-crisis</a></p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[($MKTX) MarketAxess: Quick thoughts on HK's croupiers, sea change, and MarketAxess ]]></title><description><![CDATA[Some random commentary on a beaten down, asset-light, "sea change" beneficiary]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/mktx-marketaxess-quick-thoughts-on</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/mktx-marketaxess-quick-thoughts-on</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2023 13:44:31 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb75ff1f-008d-4108-ae6e-e3d7750d7b59_593x507.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139155793/mktx">MarketAxess, questions on HK&#8217;s exchange investments, and sea change commentary</a> </p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139155793/croupiers-and-exchanges">Croupiers and exchanges</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139155793/sea-change">Sea Change</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139155793/marketaxess">MarketAxess</a></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139155793/quick-business-overview">Quick overview</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139155793/counter-cyclicality">Counter-cyclicality</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139155793/management">Management</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139155793/valuation">Valuation</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139155793/why-is-it-cheap">Why cheap/depressed?</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139155793/catalysts">Catalysts</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/139155793/risks">Risks</a></p></li></ul></li></ul><p><em>(Disclaimer: I started drafting this post when MKTX stock was around $230-$220/sh in early December, which is the approximate cost basis for the bulk of my position. I&#8217;ve bought a bit more during the recent run-up, but only in nibble-sized amounts and have slowed buying significantly. I&#8217;m not totally convinced we won&#8217;t revisit my cost basis again at some point in the next year and I&#8217;ll probably throw in another 1-2% of the portfolio if that happens &#8212;depending on the reason for the re-visitation.)</em></p><p><em>**********UPDATE 20240131: Well, well, well&#8230; sucks being right on that disclaimer prediction.</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!l2f_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72aad25d-f8ca-4ce8-8629-454359db0747_683x498.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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The company is asset-light, has no debt (as well as a net buyer of its own stock), and has consistently returned capital to shareholders without a single year of negative FCF/sh since 2003. There have been investor concerns around market share growth in the face of new competition for corporate bond trading and the stock has taken a beating since 2021, but I&#8217;m thinking that a lot of that pessimism has been priced into the stock and management seems to be taking the growth issue a bit more seriously now. Meanwhile higher-for-longer interest rates and their implications for the credit markets are being discounted. </p><p>If Howard Marks is correct in his <a href="https://ioandc.com/what-marks-makes-of-markets/">&#8220;sea change&#8221; predictions</a> for the fixed income asset class as the contractual pre-tax yields there begin to approach longterm equity return expectations and gets asset allocators asking themselves &#8220;<em>What are the arguments for not putting a significant portion of our capital into credit today?</em>&#8221;, then MKTX&#8217;s dominant position in US investment/high grade (HG) and high-yield (HY) corporate bond trading volumes<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> would be a major beneficiary of a structural shift in fund flows that would raise all ships. We may indeed now be approaching the case where &#8220;<em>credit instruments should probably represent a substantial portion of portfolios&#8230; perhaps the majority</em>&#8221;.</p><p><em>(On a related note, for any just-buy-a-mutual-fund/etf people</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a><em>, T. Rowe Price recently launched a new MF this year that will invest 50-70% of net assets in fixed-income and other debt instruments, 30-50% in common and preferred stocks, and is being run by management with an excellent track record vs peers. I think it&#8217;s pretty interesting and perhaps this is the better sleep-well-at-night way to benefit from higher rates</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a><em>. You can read more on that here: <a href="https://www.mutualfundobserver.com/2023/12/launch-alert-t-rowe-price-capital-appreciation-income-fund/">https://www.mutualfundobserver.com/2023/12/launch-alert-t-rowe-price-capital-appreciation-income-fund/</a>)</em> </p><p>In any case, whatever future our timeline converges on, I think that a non-zero allocation to MKTX (and certain other higher-for-longer- and rate-volatility-beneficiaries)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> is a good contingency investment to diversify for this potential sea-change shift (that also has some additional interesting counter-cyclical or buffering characteristics vs the S&amp;P 500 as well). That is, when thinking about the expectation value&#8230; </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9YsJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F670c9f94-c755-4ec3-933a-fce4f3c7374e_344x147.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9YsJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F670c9f94-c755-4ec3-933a-fce4f3c7374e_344x147.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9YsJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F670c9f94-c755-4ec3-933a-fce4f3c7374e_344x147.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9YsJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F670c9f94-c755-4ec3-933a-fce4f3c7374e_344x147.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9YsJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F670c9f94-c755-4ec3-933a-fce4f3c7374e_344x147.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9YsJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F670c9f94-c755-4ec3-933a-fce4f3c7374e_344x147.png" width="344" height="147" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/670c9f94-c755-4ec3-933a-fce4f3c7374e_344x147.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:147,&quot;width&quot;:344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Expected Value of Random Variables &#8212; Explained Simply | by Soner Y&#305;ld&#305;r&#305;m |  Towards Data Science&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Expected Value of Random Variables &#8212; Explained Simply | by Soner Y&#305;ld&#305;r&#305;m |  Towards Data Science" title="Expected Value of Random Variables &#8212; Explained Simply | by Soner Y&#305;ld&#305;r&#305;m |  Towards Data Science" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9YsJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F670c9f94-c755-4ec3-933a-fce4f3c7374e_344x147.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9YsJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F670c9f94-c755-4ec3-933a-fce4f3c7374e_344x147.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9YsJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F670c9f94-c755-4ec3-933a-fce4f3c7374e_344x147.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9YsJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F670c9f94-c755-4ec3-933a-fce4f3c7374e_344x147.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>&#8230;of the call option that MKTX has on higher-for-longer rates and subsequent fund flows, I think the market is greatly discounting the magnitude of p(xi) in this case; this call option being wrapped up in a beaten down bond market croupier. </p><h1>Croupiers and exchanges</h1><p>Exchanges are asset light businesses with most of their expenses being related to maintaining and improving their electronic trading systems as well as complying with regulatory financial oversight and reporting. MKTX&#8217;s margins have remained quite high over the last 20 years &#8212;remaining relatively high during the 2008 GFC and appearing unaffected by (and, in fact, slightly benefiting from) the 2020 COVID volatility.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0aaj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1930853-436d-4965-ae67-391874c3cec4_1669x595.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0aaj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa1930853-436d-4965-ae67-391874c3cec4_1669x595.png 424w, 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Without these data anomalies, you would see MKTX revenues and operating income generally showing constant growth through the period. So, just imagine a straight line around the 90% mark for gross margins in the image above.)</em></p><p>Exchanges tend to be durable businesses due to their powerful network effects as trading activity tends to pool around the more liquid trading venues which works in a virtuous cycle (amplified by continual technology investments that are usually only a small fraction of an exchanges cashflows) to create even more liquidity and attract even more trading activity (not only from existing traders that may have been trading on other venues, but from new clients that may now find the market liquid enough for them to trade in where they may have otherwise been unwilling or unable to by mandate). Even the release of similar products across competing exchanges has a non-zero-sum quality in that it can create arbitrage opportunities that draw traders to transacting on both exchanges in order to capture that spread.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>The <strong>availability of data is a precursor for many market makers and investors to enter a market</strong>, especially those whose business is driven by quantitative models. And as those firms have entered the market, <strong>the increased trading activity they have brought with them has generated more pricing signals, which, in turn, attracts more market participants</strong>. This virtuous cycle that was set in motion a decade ago shows signs of continuing to accelerate in the years ahead.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.sifma.org/resources/research/understanding-fixed-income-markets-in-2023/">https://www.sifma.org/resources/research/understanding-fixed-income-markets-in-2023/</a></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e744!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd91702-0a56-4387-bf6f-9154e63659cd_886x526.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!e744!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fd91702-0a56-4387-bf6f-9154e63659cd_886x526.png 424w, 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Both exchanges and casinos provide a <em>centralized marketplace that matches</em> together parties wishing to place opposing bets on uncertain outcomes (movement of prices for exchanges, games of chance for casinos); they enable trades and transactions without directly partaking in risk.</p><p>The commentary mainly focuses on exchanges&#8217; exposure to the large options and derivatives market which has seen rapid growth over the last 20yrs and the subsequent diversifying quality that these exchanges have wherein their economics are tied to the trading volumes of a broad range of financial products on their platforms and these trading volumes are themselves tied to the overall popularity of &#8212;or interest in&#8212; those varied products and underlying asset classes (regardless as to whether the values of the underlying assets are currently being priced upwards or downwards by the market). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Thus, the revenue mix of exchanges is diversified in a manner proportional to the growth and innovation of asset classes (that trade on that exchange in some form) across global capital markets. From contracts for equities and bonds to commodities, foreign currencies, and crypto, these assets all come to be traded on these centralized exchanges as they gain threshold levels of popularity and generate trading volumes and fees in corresponding amounts. This is as opposed to modern market index funds whose returns have come to be dominated by the fortunes of a narrow band of large equities<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> (whose underlying economics themselves happen to be rather closely related and, for the most part, more capital intensive than electronic exchanges).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!J8kN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48e67cc6-206d-486a-b5d4-e6b669fcc1a1_1854x870.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-chart-shows-how-the-magnificent-7-have-dominated-the-stock-market-in-2023-203250125.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-chart-shows-how-the-magnificent-7-have-dominated-the-stock-market-in-2023-203250125.html</a></em>)</p><p>Again, you can read the whole commentary <a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q3-Commentary-FINAL.pdf">here</a>; I think it&#8217;s pretty interesting.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a></p><h2>A question I had&#8230;</h2><p>In 2022, Charlie Munger gave an interview at the Singleton Prize for CEO Excellence presentation where, among other things, he commented on the casino-like nature of the current stock market:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>It's crazy what we ended up with. It's absolutely crazy. And civilization would have been a lot better without it. Now, we do get a certain amount of craziness in real estate, which doesn't have a liquid market. It isn't like, you wouldn't have a lot of excesses or speculation, even if the stock market were illiquid, as real estate, but it wouldn't be as bad as it is now. Now it's gone berserk. When I was in Harvard Law School, it was a rare day when they'd pay for a million shares a day. Maybe it would happen once or twice a year. Now they trade billions of shares every day. And the computers are trading with one another. One computer algorithm is trying to outwit the other. <strong>Now, what earthly good is it for our country to make the casino part of Capitalism more and more efficient, and more and more attractive, and more and more seductive? It's an insane public policy.</strong> On the other hand, I think the chances of changing it are practically zero. And yet it causes terrible things. You could argue that it caused the Great Depression.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mohnish-pabrai_singleton-prize-for-ceo-excellence-charlie-activity-7046769324593745921-rodq/">https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mohnish-pabrai_singleton-prize-for-ceo-excellence-charlie-activity-7046769324593745921-rodq/</a></p></blockquote><p>&#8230; well perhaps that change is actually upon us (or perhaps this is just a good endorsement of the durability of exchanges&#8217; croupier business models).</p><p>While HK mainly frames the derivatives market from the value-additive POV, around their facilitation of genuine business hedging (eg. value-creating transactions where productive businesses that have exposure to the real underlying commodity are able to transfer a portion of risk and cashflow volatility to another risk-taking party), they seem to ignore the significance of speculator-to-speculator activity in the derivatives market (eg. zero-sum transactions of traders speculating on commodity futures contracts between each other without having any actual positions or risk exposures in the underlying physical markets and rather just betting on price direction to profit on price movements rather than the transfer of risk related to any of their own commercial activities). That is, HK&#8217;s commentary here appears to be ignoring the portion of activities of the business that are more closely related to the casino origins of the &#8220;<em>croupier</em>&#8221; concept that they like to reference so much. </p><p>My main question when reading the commentary was: If HK believes that the past 40yrs of equity returns and monetary policy have been an aberration (as they&#8217;ve written so much about in the past)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a>, might there not be a good risk of much of the past two decades of derivatives activity largely being driven by 1] pure speculation (or at least to a degree that would greatly affect securities exchanges if that trading activity were to significantly diminish) and 2] a corresponding structural decline in interest rates that have pushed more investors into greater-risk assets and activities to achieve returns that used to 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!smiQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F660d5eac-0924-40d8-8840-c5736797cf23_592x312.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!smiQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F660d5eac-0924-40d8-8840-c5736797cf23_592x312.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!smiQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F660d5eac-0924-40d8-8840-c5736797cf23_592x312.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q3-Commentary-FINAL.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q3-Commentary-FINAL.pdf</a>; Notice that for all but the 30yr UST futures, volumes explode around the early 2000s, when the dot-com bubble burst and the Fed cut interest rates nearly 80%, from 6.5pps to 1.5pps)</em></p><p>I suppose one less concerning explanation for this relatively recent explosive growth in the derivatives market could be attributed to the development of computer technology, algorithms, and the internet around that same time, enabling the globalization of capital markets and greater access to financial instruments for unbundling legitimate business risk. This answer may be good enough. In that case, MarketAxess is not really a better or worse exchange business than the equities/derivatives-focused venues in the grand scheme of things &#8212;and a basket of exchanges dealing in all manner of equity, UST, and commodity derivatives, as HK holds, would be fine.</p><p> <em>(I&#8217;ll note that when I was initially looking into this, I cynically assumed that speculation would be a very large &#8212;and obvious&#8212; element of the derivatives market, but keeping an open mind as I looked into it more, the answer does not seem so cut-and-dry and I really couldn&#8217;t find any smoking gun on this idea one way or another. Even when looking at derivatives that are not settled by physical delivery, IDK that it would be right to just say that all commodity contracts that don&#8217;t physically settle are categorically speculative because, for example, Party A may be gaining insurance on their commodity prices while Party B gains current income on that transfer of risk; types of contracts that can seem to be zero-sum, might not be, depending on how parties are using them. Maybe there&#8217;s more definitive information I&#8217;m missing here.)</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a></p><p>Continuing to take a more cautious view, we could put the concern like this: How might higher-for-longer rates negatively affect the overall trading activity across a broad basket of exchange businesses? (My understanding of HK&#8217;s own overall economic outlook being that they believe we are going to see an era of higher-for-longer in both interest rates <em>and</em> inflation).</p><p>For example, zero-bound interest rates through this last decade historically pushed more investors further out along the risk curve by shifting the efficient frontier for all market participants, encouraging them to take on greater risk in search of sufficient yields<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a> (pension funds and endowments typically need returns of something like 5-8% per year)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a>, and created cheap leverage with which speculators could trade all manner of derivatives.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" 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With lower interest rates, investment earnings on bonds decline. In an effort to raise investment earnings, some life insurers shifted funds out of investment-grade bonds into inherently riskier but generally higher-earning assets, such as asset-backed securities (ABS), collateralized loan obligations (CLOs), derivatives, and real estate.&#8221;)</em></p><p>Higher-for-longer interest rates would allow allocators to shift money into less &#8220;risky&#8221;/volatile asset classes while still earning acceptable returns in line with historical inflation-adjusted stock market averages of around 7%<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a> (it may even end up the case that bonds simply emerge as the best house in a bad neighborhood if the Shiller P/E ratio ever normalizes due to structurally falling interest rates becoming no longer the norm).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZlX9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd2b2f78-ce28-4e87-9f22-b25371593a92_869x580.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZlX9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd2b2f78-ce28-4e87-9f22-b25371593a92_869x580.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZlX9!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdd2b2f78-ce28-4e87-9f22-b25371593a92_869x580.jpeg 848w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://proactiveadvisormagazine.com/the-efficient-frontier-fails-the-test-of-time/">https://proactiveadvisormagazine.com/the-efficient-frontier-fails-the-test-of-time/</a>; <a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/risk-curve.asp">https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/risk-curve.asp</a>; historical efficient frontier curves. Imagine we make a move similar to that from the 1969 curve to the 1979 one.)</em></p><p>Such a shift would also put pressure on borrowing costs for margin trading that has grown incredibly over the last 20yrs<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n-zY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59791016-5d5e-49d6-84f2-f5492206e6ce_1041x780.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n-zY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F59791016-5d5e-49d6-84f2-f5492206e6ce_1041x780.png 424w, 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Since bond yields tend to positively correlate to Fed interest rate moves<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a>, their income generation aligns more directly with the broader rate environment (vs, say, the returns from trading equity and index futures). So while no area would totally avoid the gravitational force of a higher &#8220;risk-free&#8221; rate, fixed income and the exchanges like MarketAxess facilitating their trade are intrinsically better positioned if rates and leverage costs rise or remain elevated relative to our previous decade.</p><h1>Sea Change</h1><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>[Q]uantitative easing caused significant changes in client asset allocation over the last three or four years, and the net result was underweight fixed income because of the zero interest rate policies around the world that has now changed. <strong>So I think what you're seeing is the very beginning stages of people starting to reallocate into fixed income, and you see it with the mutual fund inflows kicking off the year, the retail numbers are way up, the ETF assets are growing and a lot of this is driving small tickets</strong>. Some of that retail money is coming into SMA accounts, some of it into ETFs, but all of it with just this massive growth in tickets. So it&#8217;s not an option to automate, it's a requirement.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Richard McVey, MKTX CEO and Chairman, 2022Q4 conference call<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-19" href="#footnote-19" target="_self">19</a></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0l7W!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c86bdae-53f4-4196-893b-3a4bae5c93f0_649x188.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0l7W!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c86bdae-53f4-4196-893b-3a4bae5c93f0_649x188.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0l7W!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c86bdae-53f4-4196-893b-3a4bae5c93f0_649x188.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0l7W!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c86bdae-53f4-4196-893b-3a4bae5c93f0_649x188.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0l7W!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c86bdae-53f4-4196-893b-3a4bae5c93f0_649x188.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0l7W!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c86bdae-53f4-4196-893b-3a4bae5c93f0_649x188.png" width="649" height="188" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9c86bdae-53f4-4196-893b-3a4bae5c93f0_649x188.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:188,&quot;width&quot;:649,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:31720,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0l7W!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c86bdae-53f4-4196-893b-3a4bae5c93f0_649x188.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0l7W!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c86bdae-53f4-4196-893b-3a4bae5c93f0_649x188.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0l7W!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c86bdae-53f4-4196-893b-3a4bae5c93f0_649x188.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0l7W!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9c86bdae-53f4-4196-893b-3a4bae5c93f0_649x188.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.barrons.com/articles/vanguard-total-market-bond-etf-6db9f488">https://www.barrons.com/articles/vanguard-total-market-bond-etf-6db9f488</a></em>)</p><p>Oaktree&#8217;s Howard Marks has published several interesting memos on what he describes as a coming &#8220;sea change&#8221; in the capital (and specifically, credit) markets that has been pretty widely circulated. You read them for yourself here: <a href="https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/sea-change">https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/sea-change</a>; <a href="https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/further-thoughts-on-sea-change">https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/further-thoughts-on-sea-change</a>.</p><p>Interest rates over the past decade have been zero-bounded at the lowest level in the last 40 years (or the last 5000 years according to the Bank of England), declining by over 2,000 basis points between 1980-2020. This drove massive asset price appreciation and easy profits from leverage/risk assets as the falling rates essentially turned down the gravity on DCF valuations year after year and allowed companies to take on historically cheap debt.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0KfC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94ac4c33-9163-4643-b23f-53e9042c4fa2_700x418.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0KfC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94ac4c33-9163-4643-b23f-53e9042c4fa2_700x418.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0KfC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94ac4c33-9163-4643-b23f-53e9042c4fa2_700x418.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0KfC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94ac4c33-9163-4643-b23f-53e9042c4fa2_700x418.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0KfC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94ac4c33-9163-4643-b23f-53e9042c4fa2_700x418.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0KfC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94ac4c33-9163-4643-b23f-53e9042c4fa2_700x418.jpeg" width="700" height="418" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/94ac4c33-9163-4643-b23f-53e9042c4fa2_700x418.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:418,&quot;width&quot;:700,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;screen shot 2015 09 18 at 10.12.09 am&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="screen shot 2015 09 18 at 10.12.09 am" title="screen shot 2015 09 18 at 10.12.09 am" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0KfC!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F94ac4c33-9163-4643-b23f-53e9042c4fa2_700x418.jpeg 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/interest-rates-5000-year-history-2017-9">https://www.businessinsider.com/interest-rates-5000-year-history-2017-9</a></em>)</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>[I]nterest rates are to asset prices, you know, sort of like gravity is to the apple</strong>. And when there are very low interest rates, there&#8217;s a very small gravitational pull on asset prices. And we have seen that getting played out. I mean, <strong>people make different decisions when they can borrow money for practically nothing</strong> than they made back in 1981 and &#8217;2 when Volcker was trying to stem inflation and use &#8212;and the government bond rates got up to 15 percent.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Warren Buffett [<a href="https://acquirersmultiple.com/2023/03/warren-buffett-interest-rates-power-everything-in-the-economic-universe/">https://acquirersmultiple.com/2023/03/warren-buffett-interest-rates-power-everything-in-the-economic-universe/</a>]</p></blockquote><p>This longstanding environment has now appeared to change with inflation persisting, the quantitative tightening (QT) launched in June 2022 continuing apace<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-20" href="#footnote-20" target="_self">20</a> and interest rates unlikely to reach previous lows again as the Fed tries to regain its credibility after its earlier &#8220;transitory inflation&#8221; proclamations<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-21" href="#footnote-21" target="_self">21</a>. </p><p>At present, yields on HG bonds are the highest they&#8217;ve been in a ten years since the 2008 GFC:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0VWO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06268e0f-9e50-43e9-906a-bdfaa59e7a34_1319x426.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0VWO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06268e0f-9e50-43e9-906a-bdfaa59e7a34_1319x426.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/06268e0f-9e50-43e9-906a-bdfaa59e7a34_1319x426.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:426,&quot;width&quot;:1319,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:86926,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0VWO!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06268e0f-9e50-43e9-906a-bdfaa59e7a34_1319x426.png 424w, 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Powell is, as most people are that reach a certain levels of success in their lives, reflecting greatly on his legacy and as such wants to be remembered as a Paul Volcker rather than an Arthur Burns, erring on the side of harsh rate hikes and QT to crush inflation &#8212;crushing it both on paper and in people&#8217;s minds (whether rates are themselves are even going to be a sufficient tool to achieve that is another question).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-22" href="#footnote-22" target="_self">22</a> </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oWVe!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff4eefbbd-b31b-43c2-98ee-e3efcf0aec34_832x636.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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been limping along all this time on the infinite blood transfusions that were the low-interest debt available through the last decade<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-23" href="#footnote-23" target="_self">23</a>.</p><p>As I mentioned earlier, zero-bound interest rates through this last decade pushed more investors into riskier asset classes in search of sufficient yields (pension funds and endowments typically needing returns of something like 5-8% per year). If the trend continues to reverse as it has been, then many strategies that worked in the past 40 years will have very different return characteristics going forward. At the same time, credit markets can now offer similar returns that were historically only available in equities, but with higher cash flows and lower volatility &#8212;owing to their generally higher position in the capital structure and contractual returns&#8212; against a backdrop where, as Marks puts it, &#8220;<em>lessening of optimism will throw some sand into the financial gears in a variety of ways, some of which may be unforeseeable</em>&#8221;.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XcWm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71f4ed97-3f9f-4006-9b59-0414ca592078_1950x706.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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As credit markets grow and electronic trading increases, trading venues will benefit from structurally higher volumes. Firms like MarketAxess and Tradeweb have upside if the sea change thesis holds, with MKTX&#8217;s valuation at 7-8yr lows as I write this (though not for no reason, as I&#8217;ll briefly cover later).</p><p>I think Marks&#8217; idea on the future of the credit market is very interesting and very plausible for reasons beyond his arguments in the &#8220;Sea Change&#8221; memos, see more on that here&#8230;</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;194a922c-9173-4b2b-ba46-29d4ed3bdd6a&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;So, I just finished reading Zoltan Pozsar&#8217;s Bretton Woods 3.0 (BW3) follow-on articles &#8220;Money, Commodities, and Bretton Woods 3&#8221; (MC&amp;BW3) as well as &#8220;War and Industrial Policy&#8221; (W&amp;IP) and &#8212; while I have a few questions about the ultimate conclusions &#8212; wanted to make some quick notes&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;md&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;When prices get \&quot;real\&quot; and The Great Re-Everything'ing&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2022-09-24T13:38:13.907Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/h_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff499a7be-75b5-4358-a283-d8127f920add_700x419.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/when-prices-get-real-and-the-great&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:73665699,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>and <a href="https://economics-is-a-dogmatic-religion.blogspot.com/2021/04/how-supply-chains-and-interest-rates.html">https://economics-is-a-dogmatic-religion.blogspot.com/2021/04/how-supply-chains-and-interest-rates.html</a>.</p><p>.</p><p>Perhaps Marks, Poszar, and Ektrit are wrong and our current times prove to be quite Lindy<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-24" href="#footnote-24" target="_self">24</a>, the coming decade looks <em>more</em> like the previous than less. Considering the effect it would have on equities and the credit market as a whole if rates were indeed to remain higher-for-longer, I think Horizon Kinetics&#8217; idea of &#8220;contingency investing&#8221; (mentioned in their Q3 commentary) is something to take into account here (you could also call this convexivity investing). In this case we&#8217;re <strong>thinking about the general expectation value of a structural sea change occurring; thinking about the direction of (fund flows in/out of) the equity and credit markets, the magnitude of that change, and the (IMO, very non-zero) probability of that outcome occurring</strong>. </p><p>From this POV, I think it makes sense to invest in <strong>some basket of investments that are under- or even fairly-valued in the existing paradigm, but where the expectation value of certain underlying call-optionality (under certain unanticipated future situations that are vastly different from that currently being experienced by the wider market) is not been priced in</strong>. I think the high operating leverage and exposure to the credit markets in a price-direction-agnostic way (lessening the branching logic that we&#8217;d need to get right about specifically <em>how</em> a sea change would play out) makes MKTX an attractive candidate for such an investment.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>What if there were only a 10% chance that the analysis proves correct? Do you play that game of chance and accept the consequences as fate? Isn&#8217;t that what diversification is supposed to guard against? Investment professionals are expected to practice and recommend such diversification as a matter of reasoned prudence. <strong>It is acknowledged imprudence to parsimoniously avoid paying</strong> <strong>the few-thousand-dollar annual premiums for life or homeowner&#8217;s insurance. Even though such insurance is predicated on the extreme unlikelihood of a major risk coming to pass.</strong> One pays because its arrival might be catastrophic in the absence of contingency planning.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Steve Bregman, Horizon Kinetics Q3 Commentary 2023</p></blockquote><p>.</p><p>Many in the market believe that <a href="https://archive.is/RBj4h">inflation is basically licked</a> and believe &#8212;maybe better described as hope&#8212; that the Fed will pivot on rates (or at least pause the hikes in a sustained way) and that the economy will return to the zero-bound rate environment that has characterized the last decade. I have a difference in opinion from Mr.Market, who seems to think there&#8217;s virtually <em>no chance</em> that rates remain at their current levels (much less rise) going forward into 2025. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XSgJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac68f236-0bb6-4601-97f9-9a4c45cb2de8_1465x721.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XSgJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fac68f236-0bb6-4601-97f9-9a4c45cb2de8_1465x721.png 424w, 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The value of this is that we can be a bit more confident that the call-optionality of investments that might benefit from an unanticipated &#8220;sea change&#8221; future is not yet being priced in (or being priced at a heavy discount). </p><p>The way that the CME FedWatch tool creates this probability distribution is inexact<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-25" href="#footnote-25" target="_self">25</a>, but <strong>the point is that, in terms of </strong><em><strong>general direction and magnitude</strong></em><strong>, the market is expecting rates to go down over the next year and by a significant amount</strong> (say, -30% from 525bps to 375bps). I simply think it ain&#8217;t and would like to make some contingency investments to express that.</p><p>One might point to the fact that both the FOMC members themselves and CME futures market seem to agree that rates should (or will likely be) lower going forward &#8212;and it&#8217;s a pretty tight cluster of consensus as the Fed dot plot goes out (and downwards) beyond 2025. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bBFE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F92cc1dd0-bbc9-4b33-810e-404174aa1b63_900x384.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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"most likely" may not be particularly likely. Very different scenarios may be similarly likely.</strong></em> [&#8230;] <em>For now, let me leave you with a cautionary tale about focusing too much on dots. Here is a picture composed of different colored dots (figure 2). The meaning of it is not clear, although if you stare at it long enough you might see a pattern. But let's take a step back (figure 3). <strong>As you can see, if you are too focused on a few dots, you may miss the larger picture.</strong></em>&#8221; &#8212;- Chair Jerome H. Powell, At the 2019 SIEPR Economic Summit, Stanford Institute of Economic Policy Research, Stanford, California<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-26" href="#footnote-26" target="_self">26</a></p></blockquote><p><em>(The figures in question, below:)</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MKsl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F363b96ea-0e2a-472f-9da7-379967d8a310_1114x718.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MKsl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F363b96ea-0e2a-472f-9da7-379967d8a310_1114x718.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>What Powell seems to be saying here is that FOMC members, in uncertain times, tend to fill the dot plot in the summary economic projections based on the <em>specific</em> future scenario that they think is most likely of all other individual scenarios even if the sum total probabilities of all plausible scenarios in aggregate point in a very different direction than the specific future they are endorsing in the dot plot; the biggest <em>slice</em> of a pie might be apple even though <em>most</em> of the whole pie is <em>mostly</em> cherry.</p><p>FYI, the FOMC members didn&#8217;t expect we&#8217;d be even past 2% rates at this point (again, we&#8217;re currently around 5.25%) back in 2021 (when rates were 0.08%):</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/files/fomcprojtabl20211215.pdf">https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/files/fomcprojtabl20211215.pdf</a>; <a href="https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/2021-press-fomc.htm">https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/2021-press-fomc.htm</a>)</em></p><p>Will J. Powell kill this current rally with more rate hikes? The recent rally in the stock market would seem to be a great excuse for Powell to continue raising rates next year and he&#8217;s taken the opportunity to do it the recent past.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v3-3!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eb4d336-bb44-44dd-9dc4-e22a442a3969_1974x698.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v3-3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eb4d336-bb44-44dd-9dc4-e22a442a3969_1974x698.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v3-3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eb4d336-bb44-44dd-9dc4-e22a442a3969_1974x698.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v3-3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eb4d336-bb44-44dd-9dc4-e22a442a3969_1974x698.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v3-3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eb4d336-bb44-44dd-9dc4-e22a442a3969_1974x698.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v3-3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eb4d336-bb44-44dd-9dc4-e22a442a3969_1974x698.png" width="1456" height="515" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5eb4d336-bb44-44dd-9dc4-e22a442a3969_1974x698.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:515,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:179476,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v3-3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eb4d336-bb44-44dd-9dc4-e22a442a3969_1974x698.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v3-3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eb4d336-bb44-44dd-9dc4-e22a442a3969_1974x698.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v3-3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eb4d336-bb44-44dd-9dc4-e22a442a3969_1974x698.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v3-3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5eb4d336-bb44-44dd-9dc4-e22a442a3969_1974x698.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?g=1c6uQ">https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/fredgraph.png?g=1c6uQ</a>; some past rally-ending rate hikes</em>)</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>My personal view is probably you know if the market gives him [Powell] room to do 100 basis points, he will take that; that&#8217;s where he&#8217;s very different to Yellen. If the market will give him room he won't ignore it</strong>. They want to front load as much as possible because there&#8217;s this window up until that point where the White House affiliated members of the FOMC &#8212;and we know who they are, anybody affiliated to the San Francisco Fed is white house affiliated&#8212; [will turn dovish] [&#8230;] I think the last thing you will hear about if things get very scary on the economic front and there&#8217;s a lot of pressure applied to the fed the the thing you will hear least about is the quantitative tightening and I think it&#8217;s just going to run in the background</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MCfZCeO8Ac">Nicholas Glinsman</a></p></blockquote><h1>MarketAxess</h1><p>With a marketcap of around $8bn and covered by at least 12 wall street analysts, MarketAxess is certainly no underfollowed microcap and I <em>do</em> think that the market is <em>usually</em> right. However, I think the market share decline issues that have been a drag on the stock price are &#8212;because MKTX is such a large company&#8212; already priced in. On top of that, I think that the market is greatly discounting (for the reasons described in the previous section) the optionality of rates remaining as they are or continuing to rise in the long-run, acting as a further impulse towards the long-term asset allocation shift that Howard Marks expects. (I&#8217;d guesstimate an 80% chance of higher-for-longer rates and 60% chance of the same for inflation; as much as hedge funds may be praying for it, I reckon a Fed pivot isn&#8217;t in the cards).</p><div class="native-video-embed" data-component-name="VideoPlaceholder" data-attrs="{&quot;mediaUploadId&quot;:&quot;964e219b-63d0-4bd9-a2a2-8fbe15e5c3f3&quot;,&quot;duration&quot;:null}"></div><p>In the interest of diversification, I&#8217;d like to allocate my portfolio for beneficial exposure to all of the various possible economic environments/futures &#8212;while trying to limit the downside in the various investments if the expected futures don&#8217;t come to pass&#8212; and I think the beaten-down MKTX is a good higher-for-longer, sea change hedge at current levels. The new CEO seems to think so as well.</p><h2>Quick business overview</h2><p>Founded in 2000, MarketAxess (MKTX) operates a <strong>leading electronic trading platform for US corporate bonds and other fixed income securities</strong>. Additionally, MKTX provides broad exposure to global debt markets and derivatives across currencies (via Euro and EM bonds), interest rates, credit, and other asset classes, making it an effective way to access and hedge risks across multiple fixed income sectors. We are seeing a big shift in interest rates and credit markets after over a decade of declining rates. Rates are now moving higher (and I think are staying there), which marks the end of an unusually favorable decade (and possibly four decades) for borrowing and asset appreciation. </p><p>As mentioned in the HK commentary, exchanges have a croupier-like business model where they <strong>collects fees for providing the venue and tools for (in this case, fixed income) trading, without taking on significant balance sheet risk</strong>. MKTX is no different and is poised to <strong>benefit from higher credit spreads and increased volatility</strong> that typically leads to increased trading activity. MKTX enjoys <strong>high margins and stable revenue growth </strong>from the trading activity on its platform and its<strong> operating leverage means volumes translate into revenue with limited incremental cost </strong>and<strong> </strong>with<strong> networks effects that keep clients on the platform that leads to improving liquidity and draws in even more clients in a positive feedback loop</strong>. MKTX&#8217;s revenues and profits have <strong>historically been resilient or even counter-cyclical</strong> in periods of market stress (revenues falling less than 1% during the 2008 GFC and growing through the 2015/2016 market selloff<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-27" href="#footnote-27" target="_self">27</a> and 2020 COVID panic).</p><p>With higher interest rates and <strong>prospective long-term returns on credit instruments becoming more competitive vs equities</strong>, there is likely to be a shift in asset allocation and investing strategy. This should drive <strong>more capital into fixed income which will translate into greater trading volumes and revenue growth for MarketAxess over time</strong>. I don&#8217;t think this higher-for-longer call optionality is being priced into MKTX (or much into anything at the moment). </p><p>.</p><p>MKTX primarily makes its money from providing efficiency, transparency and liquidity to the credit market for its clientele of asset managers, dealers, and retail investors via its RFQ<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-28" href="#footnote-28" target="_self">28</a>, CLOB<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-29" href="#footnote-29" target="_self">29</a>, periodic auctions, and all-to-all Open Trading protocols<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-30" href="#footnote-30" target="_self">30</a> and automated trading solutions (eg. Auto-X RFQ and Auto-Responder), earning commissions on the volumes traded across the platform. Like most other exchange businesses, it collects these fees on the trading activity of participants with very little balance sheet risk to itself (the company has no debt and de minimis capital lease liabilities).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yTW1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d1724fa-5054-4f03-a003-81003e032358_550x541.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!yTW1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d1724fa-5054-4f03-a003-81003e032358_550x541.jpeg 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(MKTX 2022 10K)</em></p><p>MKTX is the dominant player in the US corporate bond market in terms of market share, but that is being challenged by competitors like Tradeweb and <a href="https://frontmonth.substack.com/p/welcome-to-the-big-leagues-trumid">Trumid</a> (which is a much smaller exchange being backed by large players like Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, and Barclays) &#8212;I believe MKTX is also the dominant player in EM debt trading as well.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xU8f!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75aa23d6-62c6-400c-be07-64c1de0ad75a_1033x403.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>The corporate bond market has certain unique characteristics that make it different. A firm typically issues at most two types of shares (common and preferred), but may have dozens of bonds outstanding that differ by maturity, issue date and the degree of seniority in the firm&#8217;s capital structure. Given the dizzying variety of bonds, any individual one is traded only rarely. In fact, 90% of corporate bonds trade fewer than five times a year.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2017/05/01/why-are-most-corporate-bonds-still-traded-on-the-phone">https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2017/05/01/why-are-most-corporate-bonds-still-traded-on-the-phone</a>;  <a href="https://archive.ph/JOPcp#selection-957.0-957.445">https://archive.ph/JOPcp#selection-957.0-957.445</a> </p></blockquote><p>Bond market trading has been much slower to adopt electronification/automation than the equities market, with the majority of bond trading still done over the counter in bilateral negotiations (historically done manually over the phone, &#8220;voice brokering&#8221;), creating a long remaining runway for MKTX (and rivals). The primary reasons for this slow digitization and adoption are&#8230; </p><ol><li><p>Fragmentation of products: The immense diversity of credit instruments across corporate bonds, municipal bonds, MBSs, and ABSs etc. makes standardization very challenging. Something to note about the credit market vs equities is that credit products can be much more numerous and diverse than what is normally seen in the stock market. A single company may have only a single class of shares (or even several classes that all generally trade in a similar manner with only a difference in shareholder voting rights or how distributions are rationed), while that same company may have many dozens, hundreds, or thousands of credit instruments outstanding all structured completely differently from each other. (For example the Ford Motor Company and Exxon Mobile have 25 and 29 different outstanding bonds issued, respectively)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-31" href="#footnote-31" target="_self">31</a>.</p></li><li><p>Greater diversity in contractual terms: The different payment rules, risks, and embedded options within each security type further complicates building common trading protocols that work for everybody. On a related note, the types of investors, with very different needs, can differ greatly even between types of credit products (eg. between US HG, USTs, and municipal bonds) in a much more significant way than, say, large hedge funds that invest primarily in tech stocks vs those that invest in industrial stocks or even ones that focus on spinoffs and CVRs, etc.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CqaC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6d7fb89b-68e7-4bf3-bfe9-d95f3d4026f8_1732x727.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Maybe call it legacy inertia.</p></li><li><p>Sporadic liquidity: The clientele of credit market exchanges have greatly different behaviors to those in the stock market, with many credit instruments being held for income purposes and thus held to maturity, which greatly impacts market liquidity and the timeliness of price signals. This sporadic liquidity likely also reduces incentives and urgency to demanding electronic trading capabilities.</p></li><li><p>Regulatory complexity: Credit markets must abide by distinct regulators across products (SEC, FINRA, The Fed, MSRB, etc.), slowing coordination required for modernizing market infrastructure. On the plus side, these cumbersome regulatory requirements also present opportunities for post-trade reporting and compliance services, allowing exchanges to leverage their data and monitoring investments and helping to insulate the industry from disruption. &#8220;<em>Regulation always benefits the incumbent</em>&#8221;, Bill Gurley.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i_cc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F265a4843-bc2b-419a-807b-cfbe689fa0f8_1032x628.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i_cc!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F265a4843-bc2b-419a-807b-cfbe689fa0f8_1032x628.png 424w, 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href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aTNI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6575f7c-5afd-494d-972e-654ea38d1840_1036x465.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aTNI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6575f7c-5afd-494d-972e-654ea38d1840_1036x465.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aTNI!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6575f7c-5afd-494d-972e-654ea38d1840_1036x465.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aTNI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6575f7c-5afd-494d-972e-654ea38d1840_1036x465.png 1272w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The bulk of MKTX&#8217;s expenses come from SG&amp;A, depreciation &amp; amortization (mainly for software development costs), and technology costs (tech subscriptions and cloud hosting costs), all of which tend to be quite low relative to revenues.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u-he!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8d99831-fdcc-4959-b1b6-65ed95f1d22f_1549x406.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!u-he!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8d99831-fdcc-4959-b1b6-65ed95f1d22f_1549x406.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ss2O!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F475aff84-be20-48c3-ac4f-734c7093cfab_2047x768.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ss2O!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F475aff84-be20-48c3-ac4f-734c7093cfab_2047x768.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ss2O!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F475aff84-be20-48c3-ac4f-734c7093cfab_2047x768.png 848w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>MKTX has also tended to benefit &#8212;vs the market&#8212; from high or rising interest rates:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iy_m!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe02393a-4858-44b8-ab0f-f14109037fb3_2047x1027.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iy_m!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe02393a-4858-44b8-ab0f-f14109037fb3_2047x1027.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iy_m!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe02393a-4858-44b8-ab0f-f14109037fb3_2047x1027.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iy_m!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe02393a-4858-44b8-ab0f-f14109037fb3_2047x1027.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iy_m!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe02393a-4858-44b8-ab0f-f14109037fb3_2047x1027.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iy_m!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffe02393a-4858-44b8-ab0f-f14109037fb3_2047x1027.png" width="1200" height="601.6483516483516" 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stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>I kinda ignore the early 2000s data as MKTX was still getting into its stride as late 2004 was its IPO, but if there&#8217;s a more noteworthy/fundamental reason for those large earnings dips do let me know</em>).</p><h2>Management</h2><p>Founder Richard McVey owns 1.44% of outstanding shares (amounting to around 65x his 2022 total cash compensation) and has led MarketAxess for over 20 years as Chairman and CEO, focused on expanding liquidity and products, maintaining MKTX&#8217;s leadership position, and gaining the company an entrenched position in the pooling of electronified bond trading. Acquisitions have also expanded their reach across adjacent fixed income assets. McVey recently stepped back from the CEO position, with Chris Concannon taking on the role in April 2023, increasing his stake in the company by 10% later in the year (or 57% of his total 2022 cash compensation (1018/(500+1300) = 56.6%) to a total of 47000 shares (7x his 2022 cash comp).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-33" href="#footnote-33" target="_self">33</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k3iY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdbe02091-0078-42ff-81be-d55e08d6605f_2201x652.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!k3iY!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdbe02091-0078-42ff-81be-d55e08d6605f_2201x652.png" width="1200" height="355.2197802197802" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/dbe02091-0078-42ff-81be-d55e08d6605f_2201x652.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:431,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:145478,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1278021/000120919123045833/xslF345X03/doc4.xml">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1278021/000120919123045833/xslF345X03/doc4.xml</a>; 47000/(43000-104)-1 = 10% increase in shares, bought at an upper limit of $240/sh)</em></p><p>Here&#8217;s a look at the exec comp breakdown:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dl7t!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff431473c-8635-4d59-99cb-ccf37956a077_1528x1135.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dl7t!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff431473c-8635-4d59-99cb-ccf37956a077_1528x1135.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dl7t!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff431473c-8635-4d59-99cb-ccf37956a077_1528x1135.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dl7t!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff431473c-8635-4d59-99cb-ccf37956a077_1528x1135.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dl7t!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff431473c-8635-4d59-99cb-ccf37956a077_1528x1135.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dl7t!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff431473c-8635-4d59-99cb-ccf37956a077_1528x1135.png" width="1456" height="1082" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f431473c-8635-4d59-99cb-ccf37956a077_1528x1135.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1082,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:232997,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dl7t!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff431473c-8635-4d59-99cb-ccf37956a077_1528x1135.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dl7t!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff431473c-8635-4d59-99cb-ccf37956a077_1528x1135.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dl7t!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff431473c-8635-4d59-99cb-ccf37956a077_1528x1135.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Dl7t!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff431473c-8635-4d59-99cb-ccf37956a077_1528x1135.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1278021/000156459023006295/0001564590-23-006295-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1278021/000156459023006295/0001564590-23-006295-index.html</a></em>)</p><p>Other than the &#8220;<em>Adjusted Operating Income Performance Grid</em>&#8221; in the proxy, there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any info on what the hard numbers were for these various performance targets. In terms of how appropriate these performance metrics are, from a scale of 1-3 with 1 being &#8216;<em>highly in management&#8217;s control</em>&#8217; and 3 being &#8216;<em>totally un-attributable to them for better or worse</em>&#8217;, I&#8217;d say&#8230;</p><ul><li><p>Adj. operating income: 2</p></li><li><p>Contributions to strategic objectives: 2 (fuzzy, but directionally OK)</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hUNg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b006c17-9904-433e-8629-d9fd68e43d50_1252x220.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hUNg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b006c17-9904-433e-8629-d9fd68e43d50_1252x220.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hUNg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b006c17-9904-433e-8629-d9fd68e43d50_1252x220.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hUNg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b006c17-9904-433e-8629-d9fd68e43d50_1252x220.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hUNg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b006c17-9904-433e-8629-d9fd68e43d50_1252x220.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hUNg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b006c17-9904-433e-8629-d9fd68e43d50_1252x220.png" width="1252" height="220" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4b006c17-9904-433e-8629-d9fd68e43d50_1252x220.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:220,&quot;width&quot;:1252,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:46779,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hUNg!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b006c17-9904-433e-8629-d9fd68e43d50_1252x220.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hUNg!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b006c17-9904-433e-8629-d9fd68e43d50_1252x220.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hUNg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b006c17-9904-433e-8629-d9fd68e43d50_1252x220.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hUNg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b006c17-9904-433e-8629-d9fd68e43d50_1252x220.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><ul><li><p>US credit market share: 1, this is nice as market share growth a major driver of the business&#8217;s earnings</p></li><li><p>Revenue growth: 2.5; a lot of factors contributing to total credit market trading volumes are not necessarily in any individual companies control.</p></li><li><p>Operating margins: 1.5; would have liked to see something more closely tied to FCF and acquisition profitability here.</p></li><li><p>Stock price performance: 10, &#129326;; I am reminded of this video from Warren Buffett on the idea of linking an executive&#8217;s compensation to something they have no control over: </p><div id="youtube2-F0P0CGh_X5c" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;F0P0CGh_X5c&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/F0P0CGh_X5c?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div></li></ul><p>Below, we can get a view as to how management has spent cashflow through the company&#8217;s history:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N-S7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F578d904b-ab9c-4437-8f28-1028d16abe26_2048x1267.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N-S7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F578d904b-ab9c-4437-8f28-1028d16abe26_2048x1267.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N-S7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F578d904b-ab9c-4437-8f28-1028d16abe26_2048x1267.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N-S7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F578d904b-ab9c-4437-8f28-1028d16abe26_2048x1267.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N-S7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F578d904b-ab9c-4437-8f28-1028d16abe26_2048x1267.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N-S7!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F578d904b-ab9c-4437-8f28-1028d16abe26_2048x1267.png" width="1200" height="742.5824175824176" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/578d904b-ab9c-4437-8f28-1028d16abe26_2048x1267.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:901,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(Yes, I know FCF accounts for capex, but I include it here anyway just to get a sense of how cash is being spent, overall)</em></p><p>One thing I like to see is companies that actually bought back stock in 2007, 2008, and the 2020 market panic (many panicked and sold assets or found themselves desperate for cash and issued stock at that time). The bulk of MKTX&#8217;s 2020 stock buybacks in that year were in Q1 and Q2, so one can be reasonably comforted that they were not just following the herd in the market run-up that occurred in the 2nd half of that year. I&#8217;d also note that MKTX&#8217;s quarterly dividends continued apace through every quarter of 2020. </p><p>In this next chart we can see a breakdown of MKTX&#8217;s total invested capital as well as the return on incremental invested capital (ROIIC), in this case using a lag of 1yr, so if ROIIC at the end of 2020 is 40% it can be interpreted as saying that the incremental capital invested into the business by the very beginning of that year (using the IIC data from the end of the previous year, 2019) generated a 40% increase in NOPAT:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!xyPx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F433b7afc-5060-4201-a57b-a416b9acd0d0_684x113.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="image-caption">(<a href="https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_returnoninvestedcapital.pdf">https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_returnoninvestedcapital.pdf</a>)</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oz7z!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda2fa793-9e6c-47fb-bd97-44f709983a2d_2048x1265.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oz7z!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda2fa793-9e6c-47fb-bd97-44f709983a2d_2048x1265.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(MKTX acquired Xtrakter in 2013 (post-trade data services), LiquidityEdge in late 2019 (USTs), Regulatory Services GmbH in 2020 (European post-trade data services), and MuniBrokers in early 2021 (municipal bonds)).</em></p><p>Something to keep in mind here is that MKTX makes most of it&#8217;s money from commissions on US HG/HY trading (and the credit side of the business in general) and the business has very high operating leverage, so it&#8217;s not always obvious how much growth in a given year can be directly attributed to management&#8217;s capital allocation (I made ROIIC charts with 2- and 3yr-lags as well, but they don&#8217;t look any smoother). For example, due to the volatility in 2020, it could be argued that nothing management did in 2019 really contributed much to the revenues and credit market volumes in the following year; the bucket was already/always outside and it just happened to start raining. Furthermore, having a single high-performing business like a dominate, asset-light US HG/HY exchange <em>could</em>, from an aggregate perspective, mask unprofitable M&amp;A excursions. So looking just at ROIIC and IC data is a bit low-resolution and may require drilling into specific years and thinking about what was happening with the credit markets and volatility in those years to get a better sense of how management is contributing to incremental profit gains over time.</p><h2>Valuation</h2><p>Again, MKTX is a well covered stock and we can look at existing analyst price targets and estimates of forward FCF/sh to get a sense of how the stock is being priced relative to those estimates.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jINY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5364b18d-3a2a-4d7c-b767-81f0fa0817b9_1099x624.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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The Fed not raising rates on the 13th?<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-34" href="#footnote-34" target="_self">34</a> </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ni92!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe074d91d-9f9f-4537-91e9-1692c2b7d150_1110x625.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Ni92!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe074d91d-9f9f-4537-91e9-1692c2b7d150_1110x625.png 424w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zypJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff6c382-4ba5-4aa6-9ec0-d015ddd8eedb_1225x511.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zypJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff6c382-4ba5-4aa6-9ec0-d015ddd8eedb_1225x511.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zypJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff6c382-4ba5-4aa6-9ec0-d015ddd8eedb_1225x511.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zypJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff6c382-4ba5-4aa6-9ec0-d015ddd8eedb_1225x511.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zypJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff6c382-4ba5-4aa6-9ec0-d015ddd8eedb_1225x511.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zypJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff6c382-4ba5-4aa6-9ec0-d015ddd8eedb_1225x511.png" width="1225" height="511" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7ff6c382-4ba5-4aa6-9ec0-d015ddd8eedb_1225x511.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:511,&quot;width&quot;:1225,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:103193,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zypJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff6c382-4ba5-4aa6-9ec0-d015ddd8eedb_1225x511.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zypJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff6c382-4ba5-4aa6-9ec0-d015ddd8eedb_1225x511.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zypJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff6c382-4ba5-4aa6-9ec0-d015ddd8eedb_1225x511.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zypJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7ff6c382-4ba5-4aa6-9ec0-d015ddd8eedb_1225x511.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Below, I just extrapolate the Wall Street analysts&#8217; 25% CAGR out by five more years, bring it down to a flat 20%, and plug that into a simple DCF model to see what kinds of additional assumptions would need to be made to result in a valuation similar to the current price.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JAKn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73015f52-804b-4c85-843d-7a9a19bb70b9_1261x658.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JAKn!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73015f52-804b-4c85-843d-7a9a19bb70b9_1261x658.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JAKn!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73015f52-804b-4c85-843d-7a9a19bb70b9_1261x658.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JAKn!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73015f52-804b-4c85-843d-7a9a19bb70b9_1261x658.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JAKn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73015f52-804b-4c85-843d-7a9a19bb70b9_1261x658.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JAKn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73015f52-804b-4c85-843d-7a9a19bb70b9_1261x658.png" width="1261" height="658" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/73015f52-804b-4c85-843d-7a9a19bb70b9_1261x658.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:658,&quot;width&quot;:1261,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:146737,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JAKn!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73015f52-804b-4c85-843d-7a9a19bb70b9_1261x658.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JAKn!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73015f52-804b-4c85-843d-7a9a19bb70b9_1261x658.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JAKn!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73015f52-804b-4c85-843d-7a9a19bb70b9_1261x658.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JAKn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73015f52-804b-4c85-843d-7a9a19bb70b9_1261x658.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.gurufocus.com/stock/MKTX/dcf">https://www.gurufocus.com/stock/MKTX/dcf</a></em>)</p><p>I think the assumptions here are not too crazy and so MKTX is probably within a range of being fairly valued. 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/81850645-d3d9-4219-b232-35747a9cec11_1678x846.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:734,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:195355,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6bHF!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F81850645-d3d9-4219-b232-35747a9cec11_1678x846.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The stock traded around a 25x EV/EBITDA at the time I started buying (but has come up quite a bit in the, IMO, short time it&#8217;s taken to draft this post, sorry)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-35" href="#footnote-35" target="_self">35</a>, below COVID 2020 levels and in line with 2016 valuations, and at a discount to competitor Tradeweb (which makes sense given the growth and market share issues).</p><h2>Why is it cheap/depressed? </h2><p>Starting around 2021 MKTX growth and market share issues vs newcomer Tradeweb (TW, which IPO&#8217;ed in 2019) have weighed on the stock price. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5X7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e0f1f5f-211c-4ef0-b125-6eaf373a4507_879x691.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5X7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e0f1f5f-211c-4ef0-b125-6eaf373a4507_879x691.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5X7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e0f1f5f-211c-4ef0-b125-6eaf373a4507_879x691.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5X7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e0f1f5f-211c-4ef0-b125-6eaf373a4507_879x691.png 1272w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2e0f1f5f-211c-4ef0-b125-6eaf373a4507_879x691.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:691,&quot;width&quot;:879,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:468,&quot;bytes&quot;:181475,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5X7!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e0f1f5f-211c-4ef0-b125-6eaf373a4507_879x691.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5X7!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e0f1f5f-211c-4ef0-b125-6eaf373a4507_879x691.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5X7!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e0f1f5f-211c-4ef0-b125-6eaf373a4507_879x691.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!h5X7!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2e0f1f5f-211c-4ef0-b125-6eaf373a4507_879x691.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://x.com/UpslopeCapital/status/1699612907754168570?s=20">https://x.com/UpslopeCapital/status/1699612907754168570?s=20</a>;</em> <em><a href="https://twitter.com/UpslopeCapital/status/1445748681064345608">https://twitter.com/UpslopeCapital/status/1445748681064345608</a>)</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R_vW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F834e2052-56c1-4b92-887c-df72ac2a3579_819x645.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(BTW, if anyone knows how to get this historical volume and market share data beyond the (incomplete) current year data that MKTX has on their website or just manually going through each month&#8217;s volume press releases, do let me know).</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-36" href="#footnote-36" target="_self">36</a></p><p>Notice that MKTX&#8217;s market share capture remains relatively stagnant, while TW continues to make gains &#8212;likely explaining the premium multiple that TW currently trades at over MKTX. (Bond traders are probably happy to be dealing with a more balanced oligopoly, though).</p><p>I think further market pessimism on the stock has been driven by the fact that management seemed for a good while to be pretty unfazed by their static market share growth. From the <a href="https://capedge.com/transcript/1278021/2022Q4/MKTX">2022Q4 conference call</a>:</p><blockquote><p><em>(Analyst) Christopher Allen:</em></p><p><em>I wanted to followup a little bit on the high-grade side.</em></p><p><em>One of the -- basically the one pushback we're getting on the stock now is just that the market share of high-grade has been pretty static if you kind of look at it over the last three years, right around 20%, 22%. I was wondering if you could provide any color there, particularly in the context of recent quarters you see in the average trade size coming down, which should be helpful for your market share of high-grade. I'm just wondering if there's any dealer activity in terms of balancing share on high-grade versus high-yield where you're seeing good gains there, or there's some other factors apply?</em></p><p><em>(CFO) Chris Gerosa:</em></p><p><em>Yes, Chris, I'm happy to take that one. And I think the way to think about high-grade is, we are seeing record levels of activity even in the fourth quarter in our Open Trading all-to-all solution.</em></p><p><em>So we are seeing gains in terms of Open Trading hit 33% of our total volume in Q4, so we are seeing gains there.</em></p><p><em>We are also seeing gains in our portfolio trading solution in high-grade. We had record volume in PT in high-grade of $17 billion up close to over 90%.</em></p><p><em>So we're making gains. Obviously direct dealer RFQ has been running flat for us.</em></p><p><em>We also made gains in our dealer RFQ, sorry, was up 23%. But when I look at high-grade and high-yield full U.S. corporate credit, the overall activity from our clients is still positive and you're obviously seeing those big gains in high-yield. But again the high-yield gains are driven by our Open Trading volume which ADV grew by 43% in the Q4.</em></p><p><em>So, overall credit activity on the platform is showing signs of substantial growth, particularly driven by Open Trading.</em></p></blockquote><p>And another:</p><blockquote><p><em>(Analyst) Kyle Voigt</em></p><p><em>Okay. and just for a followup, just taking a step back, if we were going to kind of rewind maybe five years ago and think about the opportunity that you had in high-grade and high-yield from a market share standpoint, I don't think anyone would have guessed that you would have effectively had the same market share in both as we sit here today.</em></p><p><em>So I guess the first part of the question is, just given the different liquidity dynamics in these two markets, do you still think that high-grade total electronic share will ultimately settle at a higher level than high-yield over the long-term?</em></p><p><em>And, just to follow up on Chris Allen's earlier question, is there some level of market share where it just gets harder for a single player to gain incremental share? Is that playing into anything that's happening in high-grade at all, because obviously the high-yield dynamics seem much different right now with the momentum there?</em></p><p><em>(COO, at the time) Chris Concannon</em></p><p><em>So first on electronic share and electronic adoption across the fixed income market, I do see that over, we will see differences in adoption across the various products that we offer.</em></p><p><em>So obviously investment grade has seen the highest adoption of electronic trading, high-yield is growing rapidly, particularly on our platform.</em></p><p><em>If you look at emerging markets, the opportunity is one of the largest opportunities globally.</em></p><p><em>But we're seeing higher adoption rates there, particularly in 2022, where we have record shares, record share in both TRACE and global EM market share, estimated market share.</em></p><p><em>I think munis is probably one of the most interesting product for electronic market share is probably in the most need of electronic adoption, particularly given the size of the average ticket in munis and we've seen -- we had a record year of adoption in munis, both record market share and record ADV.</em></p><p><em>I would say that we look at it holistically across the entire fixed income landscape, not just one product.</em></p><p><em>Our clients don't trade just high-grade. They trade across the entire fixed income landscape.</em></p><p><em>So when they -- we think about electronic adoption, it certainly can achieve in my view, the 90% rate that we see in other asset classes, because at one point in the electronic adoption evolution you get to a point where you have to go all the way, not just part of the way, and your workflows become fully automated and fully electronic.</em></p><p><em>So I predict very much higher levels of electronic adoption across high-grade, high-yield, emerging markets, and in particular munis and obviously we think we will play a key role in that. When our clients are outsourcing trading solutions, they're not studying market share by product like we all do. They're studying that solution and the quality of execution that's being delivered on the other side. Hopefully that answers your question.</em></p><p><em>(Chairman) Richard McVey</em></p><p><em>Just one, add on too, Kyle.</em></p><p><em>I think with high-yield in particular, the liquidity challenges in the U.S. credit markets were most pronounced in high-yield and that plays right to our favor. And what I think it's showing you is that when liquidity is challenging, Open Trading is significantly differentiated from any other way of conducting trades in the high-yield market or elsewhere. And anecdotally, you'll hear stories of challenges in inventory, in the leverage loan market, in the high-yield market that creates constraints around balance sheet for secondary trading and the high-yield market, I just think is another data point that shows that we have a unique solution for liquidity through Open Trading that people are not able to find elsewhere. And I think that just positions us great for market share gains for many years to come because of the investments that we have made there.</em></p></blockquote><p><strong>The thing to notice here is what&#8217;s </strong><em><strong>not</strong></em><strong> there, that being any sense of great motivating concern about the HG market share issues</strong>. Management seems to be rather blas&#233; towards the lack of market share growth in HG corporate bonds. Gerosa dodges directly answering why HG market share has stalled, instead pointing to growth in other segments; Concannon and McVey acknowledge the issue but seem to brush it off and redirect, neither directly explains why high-grade share is stagnant. Instead, they reframe the HG issue and impress how they view market share holistically across products &#8212;one might get the impression they are <em>retreating</em> from the competition into other categories. 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Nothing in management&#8217;s comments appear to signal any major strategic shifts or initiatives, but it&#8217;s <em>something</em> and the October and November volume data shows positive momentum in YoY market share gains for HG. <em>(These seem to be the only material events preceding MKTX recent stock run-up that I could notice, but if there&#8217;s anything else do let me know).</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-38" href="#footnote-38" target="_self">38</a></p><h2>Catalysts</h2><p>Rising rate since 2022 have already appear to have boosted bond trading activity. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SyL0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fecba1f1c-d8f6-4e2e-8dc2-dfcff0702024_2047x1266.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.finra.org/finra-data/browse-catalog/trace-volume-reports/trace-volume-total-trades">https://www.finra.org/finra-data/browse-catalog/trace-volume-reports/trace-volume-total-trades</a></em>)</p><p>Aside from the long-term Sea Change call option that I think is quite likely, we have&#8230; </p><p>.</p><p>&#8230; A considerable backlog of debt maturing in the coming years that will have to be rolled over, translating into fresh batches of HG bond issuance into the market: </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/us-non-financial-ig-corporate-bond-issuance-could-slow-in-2h23-10-08-2023">https://www.fitchratings.com/research/corporate-finance/us-non-financial-ig-corporate-bond-issuance-could-slow-in-2h23-10-08-2023</a>)</em></p><p>Of course, the coming debt maturities at existing higher rates could actually end up being a cause for lower rates if it results in a massacre of zombie companies<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-39" href="#footnote-39" target="_self">39</a> that may have previously found it difficult to go bankrupt in the previous ZIRP environment of the past decade, despite not generating enough cashflows to cover their debt payments. If enough of these companies are pushed into insolvency, it may stir Democrat-aligned FOMC members to argue for cuts heading into the 2024 election year.</p><p>This seem to be the general view of Pershing Square&#8217;s Bill Ackman when discussing inflation and current interest rates, recently:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>And I think that is having a retarding effect on the economy. And then of course, many businesses and many individuals have the benefit of fixed-rate debt. And that fixed-rate debt, certainly for companies and commercial real estate starts to roll off, so I think there&#8217;s a risk of a hard landing if the Fed doesn&#8217;t start to cut rates pretty soon.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Ackman, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bill-ackman-warns-economy-fall-off-cliff-fed-doesnt-hurry-5ge1c/">https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bill-ackman-warns-economy-fall-off-cliff-fed-doesnt-hurry-5ge1c/</a></p></blockquote><p>But one should also remember that this is the same Bill Ackman who, in 2020,&#8230; </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>quietly placed a bet that stock markets would tank. Those bets made his hedge fund $2.6bn (&#163;2.2bn) &#8211; a near-10,000% return on his $27m stake. Ackman&#8217;s extraordinary doom-laden appearance on CNBC, in which he revealed he had evacuated his family and colleagues from New York City and said he expected the virus to kill close to a million Americans, spooked financial markets, sparking immediate frenzied selling. </em></p><p><em>[&#8230;] Ackman [later] revealed in a letter to his shareholders that since late February he had been buying &#8220;credit protection&#8221; hedges &#8211; bets that the markets would fall. Those hedges have paid off and Ackman&#8217;s fund used the gains to buy shares in &#8216;companies we love at bargain prices&#8217;.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/27/hell-is-coming-how-bill-ackmans-tv-interview-tanked-the-markets-and-made-him-26bn">https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/27/hell-is-coming-how-bill-ackmans-tv-interview-tanked-the-markets-and-made-him-26bn</a></p></blockquote><p>.</p><p>The bond market still largely does trading non-electronically, so there remains a big runway for secular growth in electronic trading (iff MKTX can start getting proactive about gaining market share in their bread-and-butter HG space).</p><p>.</p><p>Management taking more and more significant steps to get HG market share back into growth mode. I&#8217;m taking a wait-and-see stance on this one, but plan to DCA more into the stock as more progress on this issue starts being made &#8212;I think this is the plan of many other investors as well.</p><h2>Risks</h2><p>As mentioned, a lot of investor pessimism is currently related to MarketAxess&#8217; slowing growth in market share in the face of rivals like Tradeweb who are picking up MKTX&#8217;s slack. If MKTX&#8217;s HG stagnation continues and the market share spread between MKTX and TW continues to narrow &#8212;while management jingles the shiny keys of the other credit products&#8217; market share in investors faces each quarter&#8212; then that would be a big problem. They seem to be giving the issue more attention now than previously, but it&#8217;s something to monitor.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tIdW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64b6676f-a34a-4b2d-8c60-920608f1ed41_1690x853.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tIdW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64b6676f-a34a-4b2d-8c60-920608f1ed41_1690x853.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tIdW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64b6676f-a34a-4b2d-8c60-920608f1ed41_1690x853.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tIdW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64b6676f-a34a-4b2d-8c60-920608f1ed41_1690x853.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tIdW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64b6676f-a34a-4b2d-8c60-920608f1ed41_1690x853.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tIdW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64b6676f-a34a-4b2d-8c60-920608f1ed41_1690x853.png" width="1456" height="735" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/64b6676f-a34a-4b2d-8c60-920608f1ed41_1690x853.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:735,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:148072,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tIdW!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64b6676f-a34a-4b2d-8c60-920608f1ed41_1690x853.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tIdW!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64b6676f-a34a-4b2d-8c60-920608f1ed41_1690x853.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tIdW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64b6676f-a34a-4b2d-8c60-920608f1ed41_1690x853.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tIdW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64b6676f-a34a-4b2d-8c60-920608f1ed41_1690x853.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Of all the weaknesses in the securities exchange space, I&#8217;d rank incumbent rivalry as #1 &#8212;with the fact that volumes (the main source of exchanges&#8217; profits) are largely out of any management&#8217;s control as #2.</p><p>.</p><p>Has most of the low hanging fruit along the bond-market-digitization runway already been picked? As the various bond market exchanges race to improve their systems and bring trading into their centralized venues, it&#8217;s possible that they will begin seeing diminishing returns in these &#8216;last miles&#8217; of digitization. At some point, I expect exchanges to begin encountering diminishing returns and increased technical challenges in attracting the last remaining pockets of voice/manual trading activity.</p><p>Early digitization likely focused on the most liquid instruments and those most obvious to support over centralized digital venues. Niche fixed income securities that rarely trade or have very specialized contract terms are going to be harder to meaningfully incorporate. Bilateral voice trading preserves a lot of flexibility for negotiating complex or large block trades that don&#8217;t easily translate to centralized markets as they currently exist.</p><p>If this does indeed turn out to be the case much sooner rather than later, then TAM and growth expectations (and thus valuation multiples) are likely to drop significantly (not just for MKTX, but for all credit market exchanges). This is scenario is really not a risk, so much as an inevitability. The real risk is that the exchanges come to find that what they thought was a mile-long runway turns out to actually be just a football field on approach &#8212;and that the stock price makes a corresponding rocky landing.</p><p>There&#8217;s a reason equities have been so much faster to centralize than the bond market&#8230; </p><blockquote><p><em>The relatively standardized nature of certain instruments, for example, equities, tend to be order driven, and trading is facilitated by stock exchanges and other venues that can match large numbers of buyers and sellers for each order.</em></p><p><em><strong>However, markets such as fixed income and derivatives are characterized by a significantly large number of instruments with different characteristics</strong> (tenor, payment terms, coupon rates etc.), which makes matching supply and demand for a given instrument more challenging. By way of example, the number of European fixed income instruments covered by Trax alone amounts to 310,000. This compares to around 19,000 publicly-listed equities across Europe. <strong>Fixed income instruments are also by their nature purchased for income rather than capital appreciation, and some investors are less likely to trade these instruments after the initial purchase</strong>. In the absence of a continuous two-way market for buyers and sellers in these markets, market makers such as banks and broker-dealers facilitate transactions by stepping in as counterparties to such transactions by buying or selling financial instruments without an immediate matching transaction. These are therefore traded over-the counter (OTC) rather than on exchanges &#8212;- <a href="https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/financial-services/publications/assets/global-financial-market-liquidity-study.pdf">https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/financial-services/publications/assets/global-financial-market-liquidity-study.pdf</a></em></p></blockquote><p>.</p><p>Dividend growth has also been slowing over recent years, but that may be more related to management finding more fintech investment opportunities (eg. to address the market share issues) and wanting to build a larger cash balance, as they&#8217;ve mentioned in recent earnings calls. </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>So we're really talking about an M&amp;A strategy that involves much smaller size bolt-on type of product offerings. The FinTech space has clearly been repriced. So there's an opportunity and there are a number of FinTech providers in the market that will start facing capital challenges in the year ahead. So with a very strong balance sheet, we feel well positioned to take advantage of a re-priced market with a number of FinTech players that may be in need of capital.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- ex-CFO Chris Gerosa, <a href="https://capedge.com/transcript/1278021/2022Q4/MKTX">2022Q4</a></p></blockquote><p>Though, keep in mind that payout ratios have also been rising, so the issue isn&#8217;t just solely about priorities, but of issues with funding internal growth (which indicate more stress than the redirecting-to-M&amp;A interpretation). A rising payout ratio and falling dividend growth are more supportive of the idea that management is returning capital to shareholders as growth stalls &#8212;which it is certainly doing at the moment.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OTp5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd9e2d2f-c36c-4e80-a26e-f45dfb082a8a_1626x1003.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OTp5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd9e2d2f-c36c-4e80-a26e-f45dfb082a8a_1626x1003.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OTp5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd9e2d2f-c36c-4e80-a26e-f45dfb082a8a_1626x1003.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OTp5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd9e2d2f-c36c-4e80-a26e-f45dfb082a8a_1626x1003.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OTp5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd9e2d2f-c36c-4e80-a26e-f45dfb082a8a_1626x1003.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OTp5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd9e2d2f-c36c-4e80-a26e-f45dfb082a8a_1626x1003.png" width="1456" height="898" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/cd9e2d2f-c36c-4e80-a26e-f45dfb082a8a_1626x1003.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:898,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OTp5!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd9e2d2f-c36c-4e80-a26e-f45dfb082a8a_1626x1003.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OTp5!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd9e2d2f-c36c-4e80-a26e-f45dfb082a8a_1626x1003.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OTp5!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd9e2d2f-c36c-4e80-a26e-f45dfb082a8a_1626x1003.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OTp5!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcd9e2d2f-c36c-4e80-a26e-f45dfb082a8a_1626x1003.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>.</p><p>Less volatile, low-yield conditions would reduce overall turnover. A reversal by the Fed back to a sustained ultra-low-rates environment would temper trading volumes and revenue growth potential for MarketAxess in the long-run as the efficient frontier moves back to greatly favoring equity over bonds and allocators are compelled to remain in equities to meet return requirements.</p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>My understanding is the etymology of the name comes from the concept of &#8220;axes&#8221; in the bond market. See more on term here: <a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/axe.asp">https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/axe.asp</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>MKTX&#8217;s 2022 10K estimates they take 21% and 18% of total market share for US investment grade and junk bond trading volumes, respectively.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I&#8217;m personally uncomfortable in general with funds that have very strict mandates or rules set for how investments will be made. For these funds, their available capital and opportunities to make investments are often inversely correlated to the availability of opportunities due to the aggregate fear/euphoria behavior of Mr.Market that their capital is subject to.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Through decades-long experience in the investment management business, we saw the same pattern, which is: people don&#8217;t make money in mutual funds, because they sell when it goes down or they sell when the fund underperforms. They buy after periods of high performance. Even though one is required, in a fund, to state that past performance is no guarantee of future performance, it doesn&#8217;t do much good, apparently. People behave as people behave anyway.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Murray Stahl, https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2015_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</p></blockquote><p> </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>In many aspects of life, indeed, wealth does command top-grade products or services. For that reason, the financial &#8220;elites&#8221; &#8212; wealthy individuals, pension funds, college endowments and the like &#8212; have great trouble meekly signing up for a financial product or service that is available as well to people investing only a few thousand dollars. This reluctance of the rich normally prevails even though the product at issue is &#8212; on an expectancy basis &#8212; clearly the best choice. My calculation, admittedly very rough, is that the search by the elite for superior investment advice has caused it, in aggregate, to waste more than $100 billion over the past decade.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Warren Buffett, Berkshire Hathaway 2016 annual letter</p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Eg. see my previous post on CreditRiskMonitor.com</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;9225c44f-c9a0-47b6-bfc6-d6e18f7d3ab3&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&#8220;Given the inflationary environment in 2022, the corresponding tightening of interest rates by central banks, and the number of businesses with limited ability to cover their interest expenses with earnings, the Company expects that the number of corporate bankruptcies will at worst return to long-term 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Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>croup&#183;i&#183;er</p><p>/&#712;kro&#862;op&#275;&#716;&#257;,&#712;kro&#862;op&#275;&#601;r/</p><p><em>noun</em></p><ol><li><p>the person in charge of a gaming table, gathering in and paying out money or <a href="https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=586809384&amp;sxsrf=AM9HkKmVaZSjqpYT0C6Tm6tvyj9HMzM_8w:1701392250127&amp;q=tokens&amp;si=ALGXSlaWqc4XvKuO31AnQ7gAsIq_QRFMap3dq5Rb4G5nnWGZxmeB8Rn_j4Bt-gXjR83-vzarrEVtRl1ieHLcFvbgIYvvlkqM9A%3D%3D&amp;expnd=1">tokens</a>.</p></li><li><p>HISTORICAL</p><p>the assistant chairman at a public dinner, <a href="https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=586809384&amp;sxsrf=AM9HkKmVaZSjqpYT0C6Tm6tvyj9HMzM_8w:1701392250127&amp;q=seated&amp;si=ALGXSlaWqc4XvKuO31AnQ7gAsIq_OsXj03OKWiIYRoC2jQi--d2ObahisGACFPirfXTFhpNwA1PjSY3esQivNrTAhGOKiBAhzA%3D%3D&amp;expnd=1">seated</a> at the lower end of the table.</p></li></ol><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/you-might-be-shocked-to-learn-where-the-sp-500-would-be-in-2023-without-the-magnificent">https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/you-might-be-shocked-to-learn-where-the-sp-500-would-be-in-2023-without-the-magnificent</a></p><p><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-chart-shows-how-the-magnificent-7-have-dominated-the-stock-market-in-2023-203250125.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-chart-shows-how-the-magnificent-7-have-dominated-the-stock-market-in-2023-203250125.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Further reading from HK on croupiers and securities exchanges:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160512031900/http://horizonkinetics.com/docs/Further%20Croupier%20Basics%20-%20%204-27-06.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20160512031900/http://horizonkinetics.com/docs/Further%20Croupier%20Basics%20-%20%204-27-06.pdf</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160703122128/http://horizonkinetics.com/docs/12-16-08%20Review%20&amp;%20Update%20of%20The%20Croupier%20Business%20Model.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20160703122128/http://horizonkinetics.com/docs/12-16-08%20Review%20&amp;%20Update%20of%20The%20Croupier%20Business%20Model.pdf</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160703154353/http://horizonkinetics.com/docs/8-21-09%20Croupiers%20Less%20Talk,%20More%20Figures.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20160703154353/http://horizonkinetics.com/docs/8-21-09%20Croupiers%20Less%20Talk,%20More%20Figures.pdf</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160703103322/http://www.horizonkinetics.com/docs/1-5-09%20Q&amp;A-%20Croupier%20&amp;%20Fed%20Tactics.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20160703103322/http://www.horizonkinetics.com/docs/1-5-09%20Q&amp;A-%20Croupier%20&amp;%20Fed%20Tactics.pdf</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160703103400/http://horizonkinetics.com/docs/11-24-08%20Securities%20Exchanges.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20160703103400/http://horizonkinetics.com/docs/11-24-08%20Securities%20Exchanges.pdf</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150506062559/http://www.horizonkinetics.com/docs/10-7-08%20Observations%20on%20Securities%20Exchanges.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20150506062559/http://www.horizonkinetics.com/docs/10-7-08%20Observations%20on%20Securities%20Exchanges.pdf</a> (see &#8220;Observations on Securities Exchanges&#8221;)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://milkeninstitute.org/sites/default/files/reports-pdf/Derivatives-Report.pdf">https://milkeninstitute.org/sites/default/files/reports-pdf/Derivatives-Report.pdf</a> (not from HK, this was just an interesting read on derivatives I thought I&#8217;d share)</p></li></ul><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I&#8217;ve written a bit more on HK&#8217;s position on this, here: <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/56739528/hkfrmo">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/56739528/hkfrmo</a>; <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/60550169/fftt-us-meets-em-balance-of-payments-crisis">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/60550169/fftt-us-meets-em-balance-of-payments-crisis</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://milkeninstitute.org/sites/default/files/reports-pdf/Derivatives-Report.pdf">https://milkeninstitute.org/sites/default/files/reports-pdf/Derivatives-Report.pdf</a></p><p><a href="https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?doi=741f09fa761b6af2c25cd5a0a00a92e8d009a566&amp;repid=rep1&amp;type=pdf">https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?doi=741f09fa761b6af2c25cd5a0a00a92e8d009a566&amp;repid=rep1&amp;type=pdf</a></p><p><a href="https://lawecommons.luc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&amp;httpsredir=1&amp;article=1025&amp;context=luclj">https://lawecommons.luc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&amp;httpsredir=1&amp;article=1025&amp;context=luclj</a>, &#8220;Derivatives: A Twenty-First Century Understanding&#8221;, Timothy E. Lynch, University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Law</p><p></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I&#8217;ve been sitting on a draft of a post covering the possibility of massive amounts of money being used for commodity prepay and collateralization for use in margin trading by global mega-banks for a long time now. I think the idea is interesting, but I think it&#8217;s pretty ill-researched (even for my standards) and rambling (even for my standards). Maybe I&#8217;ll just publish as an April 1st thing or something if I ever get around to cleaning it up from a collection of scattered notes and links.  </p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-hutchins-center-explains-the-yield-curve-what-it-is-and-why-it-matters/">https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-hutchins-center-explains-the-yield-curve-what-it-is-and-why-it-matters/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.richmondfed.org/~/media/richmondfedorg/publications/research/econ_focus/2013/q3/pdf/federal_reserve.pdf">https://www.richmondfed.org/~/media/richmondfedorg/publications/research/econ_focus/2013/q3/pdf/federal_reserve.pdf</a></p><p>&#8220;<em>But the kind of reaching for yield that Stein, Yellen, Bernanke, and Rajan have discussed recently stems from low interest rates. When nominal market interest rates are generally high, investment managers have no problem earning enough to cover their liabilities or reach their investment goals. But after a recession, the central bank may cut interest rates to boost the economy. For a while, risk premia remain elevated, pushing overall market interest rates higher, so investors have little need to search for yield. As risk premia recede, however, investors may become desperate for higher returns and shift toward riskier investments.</em>&#8221;</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://academic.oup.com/rfs/article/35/8/3777/6433685#366576487">https://academic.oup.com/rfs/article/35/8/3777/6433685#366576487</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pionline.com/article/20170508/ONLINE/170509926/endowments-should-rethink-the-5-rule">https://www.pionline.com/article/20170508/ONLINE/170509926/endowments-should-rethink-the-5-rule</a></p><p><a href="https://caia.org/sites/default/files/06_2017_endowment_4-2-18.pdf">https://caia.org/sites/default/files/06_2017_endowment_4-2-18.pdf</a></p><p><a href="https://www.nacubo.org/Press-Releases/2023/Higher-Education-Endowments-See-Declines-in-Returns-and-Values-but-Boost-Overall-Spending">https://www.nacubo.org/Press-Releases/2023/Higher-Education-Endowments-See-Declines-in-Returns-and-Values-but-Boost-Overall-Spending</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2019/12/state-pension-funds-reduce-assumed-rates-of-return">https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2019/12/state-pension-funds-reduce-assumed-rates-of-return</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://tradethatswing.com/average-historical-stock-market-returns-for-sp-500-5-year-up-to-150-year-averages/">https://tradethatswing.com/average-historical-stock-market-returns-for-sp-500-5-year-up-to-150-year-averages/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.longtermtrends.net/sp500-price-earnings-shiller-pe-ratio/">https://www.longtermtrends.net/sp500-price-earnings-shiller-pe-ratio/</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!c1EX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feaebdca3-f65c-485c-8379-c3b1aef32962_1717x425.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://opengamma.com/rising-interest-rates/">https://opengamma.com/rising-interest-rates/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bernstein.com/our-insights/insights/2023/articles/does-margin-still-work-amid-higher-rates.html">https://www.bernstein.com/our-insights/insights/2023/articles/does-margin-still-work-amid-higher-rates.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.bis.org/publ/bisbull02.pdf">https://www.bis.org/publ/bisbull02.pdf</a>, &#8220;Leverage and margin spirals in fixed income markets during the Covid-19 crisis&#8221;</p><p><a href="https://tlc.thinkorswim.com/center/howToTos/thinkManual/Miscellaneous/Margin/Margin-Requirements-for-Fixed-Income-Products">https://tlc.thinkorswim.com/center/howToTos/thinkManual/Miscellaneous/Margin/Margin-Requirements-for-Fixed-Income-Products</a></p><p><a href="https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/trading/margin-bonds.php">https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/trading/margin-bonds.php</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2017/october/increases-fed-funds-rate-impact-other-interest-rates">https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2017/october/increases-fed-funds-rate-impact-other-interest-rates</a></p><p><a href="https://www.im.natixis.com/us/portfolio-construction/bond-basics-interest-rates-and-yields">https://www.im.natixis.com/us/portfolio-construction/bond-basics-interest-rates-and-yields</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>It should be noted that MKTX&#8217;s 2022Q4 call was held in January 2023; Howard Marks&#8217; &#8220;Sea Change&#8221; memo was published in December 2022; he&#8217;s rather widely read and I&#8217;m pretty sure that McVey would have been aware of this memo.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-20" href="#footnote-anchor-20" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">20</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://wolfstreet.com/2023/12/07/fed-balance-sheet-qt-1-23-trillion-from-peak-129-billion-in-november-to-7-74-trillion-lowest-since-april-2021/">https://wolfstreet.com/2023/12/07/fed-balance-sheet-qt-1-23-trillion-from-peak-129-billion-in-november-to-7-74-trillion-lowest-since-april-2021/</a>; <a href="https://wolfstreet.com/2023/12/13/what-powell-said-about-continuing-qt-amid-rate-cuts-rrps-going-to-zero-and-reserves-dropping-to-a-magic-line-in-the-sand/">https://wolfstreet.com/2023/12/13/what-powell-said-about-continuing-qt-amid-rate-cuts-rrps-going-to-zero-and-reserves-dropping-to-a-magic-line-in-the-sand/</a>, &#8220;<em>We&#8217;re not talking about altering the pace of QT right now, just to get that out of the way.</em>&#8221;</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-21" href="#footnote-anchor-21" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">21</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/transitory-inflation/">https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/transitory-inflation/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-22" href="#footnote-anchor-22" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">22</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>FRMO&#8217;s Murray Stahl believes that our current bout of inflation is due to supply issues and thus cannot be fixed by rate hikes of any amount and that the Fed cannot maintain very high rates even if they wanted to.</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;b378e8c5-cf48-49dc-89a0-4621c61c8345&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&#8220;I think the key ingredient of that is focusing on what is the risk you&#8217;re taking. I think a lot of people get in a lot of trouble because they do a transaction and they don&#8217;t understand what the risk they&#8217;re assuming is when they do the transaction. What he taught me more than anything else was, look at the deal and figure out where is the vulnerabilit&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($FRMO) FRMO Corp: The Most Important Things - Part 1: Long-term commodity shortage is coming&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2022-05-31T05:57:31.503Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/22367676-fa90-4336-b969-bae80957fefc_1024x1024.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/frmo-the-most-important-things-part&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:56739528,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;45446c20-05cb-4646-aa29-d8a2e559989c&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&#8220;I think the key ingredient of that is focusing on what is the risk you&#8217;re taking. I think a lot of people get in a lot of trouble because they do a transaction and they don&#8217;t understand what the risk they&#8217;re assuming is when they do the transaction. What he taught me more than anything else was, look at the deal and figure out where is the vulnerabilit&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($FRMO) FRMO Corp: The Most Important Things - Part 2: The Fed is going to let inflation run hot &quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2022-06-30T04:53:37.772Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/33156cf2-0a12-45ee-95af-7189680feef6_260x194.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/frmo-the-most-important-things-part-119&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:60550169,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-23" href="#footnote-anchor-23" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">23</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Perhaps this part is being a bit overhyped and dramatic, see <a href="https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/us-zombie-firms-how-many-and-how-consequential-20210730.html">https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/us-zombie-firms-how-many-and-how-consequential-20210730.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-24" href="#footnote-anchor-24" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">24</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_effect">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_effect</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-25" href="#footnote-anchor-25" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">25</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>You can read CME&#8217;s methodology <a href="https://www.cmegroup.com/articles/2023/understanding-the-cme-group-fedwatch-tool-methodology.html">here</a> and well as a shorter explanation <a href="https://x.com/dampedspring/status/1736381195242385615?s=20">here</a>. I recommend just going over the CME&#8217;s full explanation multiple times. I&#8217;ll just note, for now, that individual month probabilities are based on binary rate outcomes and are established independently for each contract month, based solely on expectations for that given month. Multiplying the binary probabilities across 12 contract months gives you CME&#8217;s probability distribution of rate levels out to 1 year. 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data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/NF0lrkqXIkQ?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-26" href="#footnote-anchor-26" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">26</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/powell20190308a.htm">https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/powell20190308a.htm</a></p><p>More on Fed dot plots: <a href="https://assets-global.website-files.com/6105a72c87ba1a22ae2131e6/62ab0593c56a83244da0e4e5_How_accurate_are_the_Fed_s_interest_rate_projections_.pdf">https://assets-global.website-files.com/6105a72c87ba1a22ae2131e6/62ab0593c56a83244da0e4e5_How_accurate_are_the_Fed_s_interest_rate_projections_.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-27" href="#footnote-anchor-27" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">27</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%932016_stock_market_selloff">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%932016_stock_market_selloff</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-28" href="#footnote-anchor-28" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">28</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.cmegroup.com/education/request-for-quote.html">https://www.cmegroup.com/education/request-for-quote.html</a></p><p>&#8220;<em>An RFQ is automatically disseminated to the marketplace when a user creates a request for a specific instrument type. This can be a multi-legged spread or a single instrument type. The RFQ alerts interested participants to submit bids and offers on the specified instrument. A user can also submit an RFQ on an existing instrument where there is no market.</em>&#8221;</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-29" href="#footnote-anchor-29" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">29</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/demystifying-the-central-limit-order-book-clob-everything-you-need-to-know">https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/demystifying-the-central-limit-order-book-clob-everything-you-need-to-know</a></p><p>&#8220;<em>A Central Limit Order Book (CLOB) is a mechanism financial exchanges use to facilitate trading between buyers and sellers in financial markets. It acts as a central hub where participants can submit their buy and sell orders, which are matched based on specific rules and executed accordingly.</em></p><p><em>The exchange typically maintains the CLOB, which acts as an intermediary between market participants. When a participant submits an order to the CLOB, it becomes part of the order book, which records all the buy and sell orders at different price levels.</em>&#8221;</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-30" href="#footnote-anchor-30" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">30</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.marketaxess.com/pdf/All-to-All-Trading-Takes-Hold-in-Corporate-Bonds.pdf">https://www.marketaxess.com/pdf/All-to-All-Trading-Takes-Hold-in-Corporate-Bonds.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-31" href="#footnote-anchor-31" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">31</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Search for Issuer Name &#8220;FORD MTR CO DEL&#8221; and &#8220;EXXON MOBIL CORP&#8221; here: <a href="https://www.finra.org/finra-data/fixed-income/corp-and-agency">https://www.finra.org/finra-data/fixed-income/corp-and-agency</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-32" href="#footnote-anchor-32" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">32</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%932016_stock_market_selloff">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%932016_stock_market_selloff</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-33" href="#footnote-anchor-33" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">33</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://investor.marketaxess.com/news/news-details/2023/MarketAxess-Promotes-Chris-Concannon-to-Chief-Executive-Officer-Richard-M.-McVey-to-Become-Executive-Chairman/default.aspx">https://investor.marketaxess.com/news/news-details/2023/MarketAxess-Promotes-Chris-Concannon-to-Chief-Executive-Officer-Richard-M.-McVey-to-Become-Executive-Chairman/default.aspx</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1278021/000156459023006295/0001564590-23-006295-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1278021/000156459023006295/0001564590-23-006295-index.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-34" href="#footnote-anchor-34" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">34</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.jpmorgan.com/insights/outlook/economic-outlook/december-2023-fed-meeting">https://www.jpmorgan.com/insights/outlook/economic-outlook/december-2023-fed-meeting</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-35" href="#footnote-anchor-35" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">35</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>And for all you Munger fans that may be inclined to say &#8216;EBITDA = bullshit earnings&#8217;, I&#8217;ll just say that I think this heuristic makes in this context because MKTX is net cash on their balance sheet (with very little to no debt and cash &amp; equivalents making up ~50% of book value) and their extremely capital-light business (most D&amp;A coming from accounting for recent M&amp;A) means this is really giving us a pretty close measure against cash from operations without the extreme lumpiness of EV/FCFF that has MKTX has every year due to accounting for changes in &#8220;<em>receivables from broker-dealers, clearing organizations and customers</em>&#8221; that they started tracking in 2020Q3 and have since had every Q1 and Q3</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-36" href="#footnote-anchor-36" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">36</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I had to manually copy the market share data from the press releases on both companies&#8217; websites: <a href="https://investor.marketaxess.com/news/default.aspx">https://investor.marketaxess.com/news/default.aspx</a>; <a href="https://www.tradeweb.com/newsroom/media-center/news-releases/?Page=1&amp;Date=0&amp;Categories=5&amp;ViewType=list">https://www.tradeweb.com/newsroom/media-center/news-releases/?Page=1&amp;Date=0&amp;Categories=5&amp;ViewType=list</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-37" href="#footnote-anchor-37" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">37</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>From Tradeweb&#8217;s website: &#8220;<em>At the other end of the electronic spectrum, we&#8217;re seeing an increase in adoption for much larger and complex trades that may include less liquid bonds. In this case, traders are using our Portfolio Trading protocol which allows them to package multiple bonds into a single basket of buys and sells, negotiate a portfolio level price, and execute the trade in a single electronic transaction. Portfolio trading allows institutional traders to quickly execute upwards of several hundred or thousands of line items &#8211; which historically would have taken a day or two of passing spreadsheets back-and-forth to resolve.</em>&#8221;</p><p><a href="https://www.tradeweb.com/newsroom/media-center/insights/blog/is-this-the-new-era-for-electronic-credit-trading/">https://www.tradeweb.com/newsroom/media-center/insights/blog/is-this-the-new-era-for-electronic-credit-trading/</a></p><p><a href="https://connect.tradeweb.com/portfolio-trading/p/1">https://connect.tradeweb.com/portfolio-trading/p/1</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-38" href="#footnote-anchor-38" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">38</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Again, MKTX is a big company with a lot of eyes on. There&#8217;s been a lot already written on this problem and others, so I&#8217;ll defer to some interesting articles here for further details on MKTX&#8217;s issues.</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/MARKETAXESS_HOLDINGS_INC/1477010560">https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/MARKETAXESS_HOLDINGS_INC/1477010560</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://seekingalpha.com/article/4381523-marketaxess-great-company-not-great-price">https://seekingalpha.com/article/4381523-marketaxess-great-company-not-great-price</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/58f7798829687f53ff30baf8/t/61e88024ea403840e2631912/1642627109448/Upslope+-+2021Q4+Letter.pdf">https://static1.squarespace.com/static/58f7798829687f53ff30baf8/t/61e88024ea403840e2631912/1642627109448/Upslope+-+2021Q4+Letter.pdf</a>; <a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/58f7798829687f53ff30baf8/t/625d4cf5eef5817d8a32bae1/1650281718164/Upslope+-+2022Q1+Letter.pdf">https://static1.squarespace.com/static/58f7798829687f53ff30baf8/t/625d4cf5eef5817d8a32bae1/1650281718164/Upslope+-+2022Q1+Letter.pdf</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://seekingalpha.com/article/4500979-marketaxess-approaching-a-defensible-valuation">https://seekingalpha.com/article/4500979-marketaxess-approaching-a-defensible-valuation</a></p></li></ul><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-39" href="#footnote-anchor-39" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">39</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/fall-zombies-why-corporate-failures-could-surge-2024-2023-10-06/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/fall-zombies-why-corporate-failures-could-surge-2024-2023-10-06/</a></p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[($CRMZ) CreditRiskMonitor.com: Commentary]]></title><description><![CDATA[Niche, asset-light, economic anxiety beneficiary microcap set to inflect on continued deglobalization and tightening credit supply]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/crmz-creditriskmonitorcom-commentary</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/crmz-creditriskmonitorcom-commentary</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2023 23:58:53 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ec28fd8-7f8c-46bf-91cb-6fff90b999aa_500x637.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>********** <em>UPDATE 20241013</em>: </p><div class="comment" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.substack.com/home&quot;,&quot;commentId&quot;:71878459,&quot;comment&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:71878459,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2024-10-08T19:17:22.618Z&quot;,&quot;edited_at&quot;:&quot;2024-10-08T23:05:06.132Z&quot;,&quot;body&quot;:&quot;This is not the kind of 8K I meant when I said I was waiting to see any notable moves/8Ks from the new $CRMZ CEO.\n\n&#8220;On July 19, 2024 http://CreditRiskMonitor.com, Inc.&nbsp; (&#8220;Company&#8221; or &#8220;CRMZ&#8221;) detected unauthorized occurrences within its computer network.&#8220;\n\nhttps://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/crmz-creditriskmonitorcom-commentary?r=ywarc&amp;utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&amp;utm_medium=web&amp;comments=true&amp;commentId=71643665\n\nhttps://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000114036124043034/ef20036707_8k.htm&quot;,&quot;body_json&quot;:{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;doc&quot;,&quot;attrs&quot;:{&quot;schemaVersion&quot;:&quot;v1&quot;},&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;This is not the kind of 8K I meant when I said I was waiting to see any notable moves/8Ks from the new $CRMZ CEO.&quot;}]},{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;blockquote&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;paragraph&quot;,&quot;content&quot;:[{&quot;type&quot;:&quot;text&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;&#8220;On July 19, 2024 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solutions.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- CRMZ 2022 10K</p></blockquote><p>Not many companies can say that bankruptcies and greater economic uncertainty are a good thing for their business, but this is generally the case for CreditRiskMonitor.com which sells subscription-based B2B trade-credit risk analysis services.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QtZI!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ec28fd8-7f8c-46bf-91cb-6fff90b999aa_500x637.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QtZI!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1ec28fd8-7f8c-46bf-91cb-6fff90b999aa_500x637.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>TLDR: CRMZ &#8212;like many OTC stocks&#8212; is a small, illiquid, and underfollowed company. Unlike many microcaps, it has no debt, hasn&#8217;t a single year of negative cashflow from operations (since 2005), is managed by owner operators with a lot of skin in the game, and has a 10yr history of returning capital to shareholders. It&#8217;s business model is acyclical and has historically (for better or worse) functioned as a proxy for economic uncertainty and market volatility &#8212;and you can own it without the inevitable negative rollover yield that would come with holding a VIX ETN for any sustained period (+ it&#8217;s an actual operating business). BTW, that lumpiness in the economics could be coming to an end with a new product launch and younger CEO.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!21Qx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F327d11b3-1aa6-4a35-9cd0-21011d69a15f_1383x620.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!21Qx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F327d11b3-1aa6-4a35-9cd0-21011d69a15f_1383x620.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!21Qx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F327d11b3-1aa6-4a35-9cd0-21011d69a15f_1383x620.png 848w, 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The current historic rise in interest rates could push many zombie companies &#8212;that may have previously found it difficult to go bankrupt in the previous ZIRP environment of the past decade, despite not generating enough cashflows to cover their debt payments&#8212; into insolvency and provide a slow-rolling tailwind of demand impulses for risk analysis services by the surviving businesses as their accounts receivable dollars for these zombie customers become uncollectable<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>. </p><p>CRMZ might not even need a recession to thrive if the likes of Zoltan Pozsar, Harald Malmgren, and Howard Marks turn out to be correct and supply chains continue to lengthen and reconfigure, introducing greater weak-link risks for businesses, while higher-for-longer rates reduce the global supply of credit. </p><p><em>*Disclaimer: I sometimes write about ideas I think are good and sometimes about ideas I just think are interesting, this post falls more into the latter category. I could find relatively little written or discussed online about this name, so when translating my raw notes into this post, I erred on the side of keeping, rather than cutting, information. </em></p><p><em>*I&#8217;ve DCA&#8217;ed some money into this stock, but not very much at present. </em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a></p><div><hr></div><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/136422246/brief-history">Brief history</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/136422246/the-business">The business</a></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/136422246/trade-credit">Trade credit</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/136422246/credit-risk-monitor-crm">CRM</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/136422246/supply-chain-monitor-scm">SCM</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/136422246/examining-the-financials">Examining the financials</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/136422246/business-moat-commentary">Business moat and misc commentary</a></p></li></ul></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/136422246/management">Management</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/136422246/valuation">Valuation</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/136422246/catalysts">Catalysts</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/136422246/risks">Risks and concerns</a></p></li></ul><div><hr></div><h1>Brief history</h1><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>I was rich enough that I could retire; I'm the kid in a hedge fund; it&#8217;s you know 1998. My partners are all 90 and 80 years old and I'm an old guy, so they're all trying to get rid of money; they&#8217;re giving money to their great grandchildren for crying out loud and I said &#8216;look, take the money back, I'm not doing anything&#8217; and I decided what am I going to do. <strong>I'm going to take a company and, finally, I'm going to build one company from scratch that I design that meets all the criterias that I am looking for in every company over the last 50 years in the hedge fund</strong>. I was going to start and build that and I had to take it from whatever I thought was the environment that we were starting with, and I think there is a debt crisis.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Jerome Flum, <a href="https://youtu.be/7UEWkdepMNs">Planet Microcap interview</a></p></blockquote><p>CRMZ&#8217;s Chairman (and former CEO before his son took over the role in early 2023) Jerome Flum worked as the GP at a hedge fund, Flum Partners<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>, starting in 1972, investing in the smallcap space. Flum closed the fund (or at least returned the money to his LPs) in 1998; it was apparently quite successful throughout this period<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>. CreditRiskMonitor.com was (re)founded by Flum that same year after Flum Partners bought majority control of the company, formerly a diet snacks business called New Generation Foods Inc, and transformed it into the trade-credit data service that exists today.</p><p>In their earliest 10K filing, the history of the company is described thusly:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>CRMZ was organized in Nevada in February 1977 and was engaged in the development and sale of nutritional food products from 1982 until October 22, 1993, when it sold substantially all of its assets (the &#8220;Asset Sale&#8221;), as previously reported. In September 1998, the Company acquired an option (the &#8220;Option&#8221;) to purchase the assets of the CreditRisk Monitor credit information service (&#8220;CM Service&#8221;) from Market Guide Inc. (&#8220;MGI&#8221;). The Company exercised the Option on December 29, 1998 and completed the purchase of the CM Service assets effective January 19, 1999. The assets included customer contracts, receivables, equipment, software and intangibles. Following the closing of the CM Service purchase, the Company commenced doing business under the name &#8220;CreditRiskMonitor.com&#8221;</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923209001658/d76486_10-k.htm">10K filing</a> March 23, 2009.</p></blockquote><p>However, looking at the 10KSB filings from their time as an even smaller company<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> &#8212;most of which time they were not even an operating business&#8212; we can see a bit more detail on their bumpy origins&#8230;</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>New Generation Foods, Inc. (the "Company" or "NGF") was organized in February 1977 under the laws of the State of Nevada and adopted its present name in  August  1977. The  Company was engaged in the development and sale of nutritional food products until October 22, 1993, when  substantially all of its assets were sold (the "Asset  Sale"), as described below.  As a result of the Asset Sale, the Company is no longer an operating  company. During 1994,  1995, 1996 and 1997, the Company had no revenues and its income was  derived  from interest and dividends and gains on the sale of its assets. The Company's assets consist  principally  of  cash,  cash  equivalents  and  marketable investment securities.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000101028898000009/0001010288-98-000009-index.htm">10KSB</a> filed April 15, 1998</p></blockquote><p>Flum was involved with the company since before it was CreditRiskMonitor, appearing as Chairman in CRMZ&#8217;s oldest SEC filing of May 15 1996, while the company was still New Generation Foods Inc<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a>. The company&#8217;s oldest 10KSB (filed March 31, 1997) lists Flum as Chairman and CEO, holding approximately 37.5% of the outstanding shares of common stock for New Generation Foods and yet more via Flum and Flum Partners&#8217; ownership of Series A (&#8220;<em>each share thereof is convertible into .0297625 shares of Common Stock</em>&#8221;) and B (&#8220;<em>each share thereof is convertible  into .0294125 share of Common Stock</em>&#8221;) preferred shares (which we later converted to common stock when the company acquired CRM from Market Guide Inc)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a>. </p><p>The filing details a good bit of the companies early history: </p><ul><li><p>&#8220;<em><strong>During the period 1982 - 1992, the Company developed a family of all natural,  nutritional and dietetic food products made from high protein whole wheat utilizing its  proprietary  process</strong>. The Company's principal food product was Spicer's R Hunger Crunchers TM snacks, an expanded protein high fiber food (hereinafter sometimes  called  "Spicer's R"), produced with a crunchy consistency, presently in the form of small wagon wheel shapes and available in eight flavors. Spicer's R is made from high protein whole wheat (protein content of at least 14%) utilizing an extrusion process invented by Dr. Arnold Spicer, assigned by him to the Company and patented by the Company.</em>&#8221;</p><ul><li><p>I couldn&#8217;t find a picture of what these snacks looked like, but found this excerpt from a 2009 book by Ann Louise Gittleman, Ph.D. called &#8220;<em>Beyond Pritikin: A Total Nutrition Program For Rapid Weight Loss, Longevity, &amp; Good Health</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iv6S!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F39f30aef-9c97-4565-aa8e-c27d4574c650_491x691.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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Flum has been a director of the Company since 1983. He was appointed  President and Chief Executive Officer of the Company and Chairman of the Board of Directors in June 1985</strong>. Effective December 1989,  he resumed his position as President. Mr. Flum, an attorney, has been, for more than five years, the sole General Partner of Flum Partners, a New York limited partnership which was organized in 1972</em>&#8221;. </p><ul><li><p>From this we can deduce that 1) Flum is somewhat responsible for the failure of the original company (though the line of business does not appear to have been his choice and rather something he stepped into from a director role) and 2) he was still running his hedge fund at this time.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a></p></li></ul></li><li><p>&#8220;<em>The Company entered  into an employment agreement with Mr. Flum, effective as of July 1, 1992. The employment agreement provides for Mr. Flum to serve as the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of the Company until June 30, 1999, unless sooner terminated by the Company for cause, or upon death or permanent disability.</em>&#8221;</p></li><li><p><strong>Asset sale in Oct 22, 1993 of &#8220;</strong><em><strong>substantially all of the Company's assets to American Pacific Financial Corporation</strong></em><strong>&#8221;</strong>, &#8220;<em>no determination with regard to use of the remaining proceeds of the Asset Sale</em>&#8221;. At this time the company had just &#8220;<em>one full-time employee who is its Chief  Executive Officer [Flum] and one part-time consultant who acts as its controller</em>&#8221; as &#8220;<em>[f]ollowing the closing of the Asset Sale, substantially all of the Company's former employees became employed by American Pacific</em>.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>Per 10KSB filed April 15, 1998 of the following year<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a>&#8230;</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;<em>In November 1997, Flum Partners delivered a letter to the Company demanding payment of the  applicable  liquidation  preferences  on the Series A  Preferred Stock and  Series B  Preferred  Stock  ($1,175,000  in the case of the  Series A Preferred  Stock and  $310,000 in the case of the Series B Preferred  Stock) and accrued and unpaid dividends on such shares.  On the date of the delivery of the demand, accrued dividends on the Series A Preferred Stock amounted to $787,500 and accrued  dividends on the Series B Preferred  Stock  amounted to  $111,600. [&#8230;] The  Independent  Committee  then  engaged in  discussions  with Mr.  Flum, representing Flum Partners.  Pursuant to such discussions,  Flum Partners agreed to  accept,  in payment of the  unpaid  $1.16  million of cash,  shares of a new series of convertible senior preferred stock ("Senior Preferred Stock"), with an aggregate liquidation preference equal to $1.1 million, which was $60,000 less than the unpaid liquidation preferences and accrued dividends on the Series A Preferred Stock and Series B Preferred Stock. <strong>The new series of Senior Preferred Stock does not accrue dividends, but converts into 90% of the Company's Common Stock  on a fully-diluted basis</strong>.</em>&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;<em>After further negotiations with the Independent Committee,  Mr. Flum agreed to a termination of his existing  Employment  Agreement  effective  December 1, 1997,  saving the Company  approximately  $190,000 in salary expense through the end of the  term of such  Agreement, in consideration of which the Company transferred to Mr. Flum an automobile  and computer  equipment with an aggregate value not exceeding $10,000. Mr. Flum also agreed to continue as Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive  Officer of the Company,  without pay, on an "at will" basis. <strong>Mr. Flum also agreed for a twelve month  period,  to attempt to identify and consummate a transaction which would increase the value of the Company</strong>.</em>&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>&#8230; In September 1998, Flum did indeed identify a transaction and New Generation Foods would purchase Credit Risk Monitor from Market Guide Inc and change their company name to CreditRiskMonitor.com<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a>:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8220;&#8220;</p><p><em>FORMER COMPANY:</em></p><p><em>FORMER CONFORMED NAME: NEW GENERATION FOODS INC</em></p><p><em>DATE OF NAME CHANGE: 19920703</em></p><p><em>[&#8230;]</em></p><p><em>(2) Purchase of CreditRisk Monitor and Capital Transactions</em></p><p><em><strong>In September 1998, the Company entered into an option agreement (the "Purchase Option")  to  purchase the  assets of the  CreditRisk  Monitor  ("CRM") credit information  service from Market Guide Inc. [&#8230;] On December 29, 1998, the Company notified MGI of its intention to exercise this Purchase Option, which was consummated on January 19, 1999</strong>.</em></p><p><em>Concurrently, the Company  completed a private placement of 1,300,000 shares of its common stock to approximately 25 "accredited investors" at a purchase price of $2.50 per share, for gross proceeds of $3.25 million. The proceeds from this offering were used to finance the cash portion of the CRM acquisition and the remainder will be used for future working capital needs. </em></p><p><em>As a participant in the private placement,  Flum Partners purchased 160,000 shares of common stock. In addition, as a condition  to the private  placement, Flum Partners agreed to convert all of its 1,100,000 shares of senior preferred stock into 3,598,299 shares of common stock on or prior to the closing of the private placement. This conversion was effected as of January 19, 1999.</em></p><p><em>[&#8230;]</em></p><p><em>The transactions described above, along with the issuance of 2,000 shares of Common  Stock to Flum Partners in November 1998 <strong>in consideration of its provision to the Company of a line of credit and the conversion by Flum Partners of its Senior Preferred shares into Common Stock on or about January 20, 1999, resulted in Flum Partners owning more than 72% of the  Company's  outstanding Common Stock</strong> (which is its only equity security now outstanding)  after the 1999 Private Placement.</em>&#8221;)</p><p>&#8221;&#8221;&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>(<em>Note that while CRMZ&#8217;s current price sits at $2.55/sh, you&#8217;re not buying at the same price as the private placement participants of the company&#8217;s re-founding transaction; the total diluted shares outstanding at the time of the filing was 5,341,129 vs today&#8217;s 10,760,890 per the 2022 10K. If you wanted to pay a similar price to Flum&#8217;s initial cost basis here, you&#8217;d want to buy at $1.24/sh.</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a>)</p><p>During the period from 1998 to 2004, it seems like the data and production costs remained around a steady ~$300K per period, while SG&amp;A growth continued to slightly outpace the company&#8217;s steady revenue growth until 2005/2006 when profitability started picking up<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a> &#8212;though SG&amp;A growth slowed to only a marginally slower pace than revenues. I chalk this up to an initial investment/growth period of CRMZ refining their sales process, but will have a bit more to say later about CRMZ&#8217;s apparent continued lack of operating leverage. </p><p>Since that time, CRMZ&#8217;s revenues have continued steady growth and the company has never posted a single year of negative cashflows from operations and only a single year of negative FCF.</p><p>Over CRMZ&#8217;s 22-plus years of operation, the company has since evolved the Credit Risk Monitor business from covering just a few hundred U.S. public companies to about 30 million public and private businesses worldwide and launched the Supply Chain Monitor service in early 2022 as well.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a></p><p>The business was selected and structured by working backwards from Flum&#8217;s &#8220;Five Pillars of Durability&#8221; which were originally used as a kind of bingo-card checklist he would refer to when looking for attractive investments in the micro/smallcap space during his decades as GP of Flum Partners. 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Now, it would help, and these are the other things I think are critical to invest long term in a small cap: there are five or six things, and if you can get them, you&#8217;ll very rarely get them all in every smallcap or microcap you buy into</strong>, but if you can get them all or get as many as you can, you&#8217;re gonna have a winner &#8212;provided you have durability to last for 20 or 30 years. These are not in order of importance but they're critical [&#8230;] and it's very rare to get them all. <strong>Our company, because I designed it, was designed for that.</strong></em>&#8217; &#8212;- Jerome Flum, <a href="https://youtu.be/7UEWkdepMNs">Planet Microcap interview</a> </p></blockquote><p>You can see how these pillars have manifested in the business in terms of its <em>counter</em>-cyclicality (the years during and following 2008 and 2020 were some of their best growth periods), consistent revenue growth, cash buildup (even while making fairly consistent dividend distributions in the recent decade), and debt-free balance sheet for most of CRMZ&#8217;s history<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a>. Meanwhile, Jerome Flum remains Chairman owning 57.61% of CRMZ shares either directly or via Flum Partners (of which Jerome is the GP along with his son Michael Flum<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a> who joined CRMZ in 2018 and was the company&#8217;s COO until he was elected CEO in early 2023 as Flum Sr. stepped back from the role) &#8212;Michael Flum himself directly owns less than 1% of shares. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UFzD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca3d781d-c929-4ec3-b02b-ab14059690f0_1539x410.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>My experience as a lawyer shows that a large proportion of business failures are caused by lack of capital rather than by lack of technical business knowledge.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- The Great Depression : A Diary, Benjamin Roth, 1894-1978</p></blockquote><p>Flum&#8217;s investment pillars have certainly delivered on their promise of <em>durability</em> at CRMZ and this is most obvious when we look at their cashflows during past financial panics in the wider economy; this seems to be about the only time they are able to deliver any earnings <em>growth</em>. Put another way, they&#8217;ve done a good job on that pillar of &#8220;<em>counter-cyclicality</em>&#8221; &#8212;though their 10K touts the business as &#8220;<em>non-cyclical</em>&#8221;; a bit of false advertising if you ask me.</p><p>In any case, the Flums certainly don&#8217;t appear to be getting rich at the expense of fellow shareholders (as may be a concern with certain other family-owned businesses on the OTC exchanges) &#8212;the value of Flum Sr.&#8217;s CRMZ holdings are currently worth 104x his annual compensation as Chairman&#8212; but, as we&#8217;ll see, the way they&#8217;ve chosen to build their business around these pillars has produced questionable results when it comes to any <em>sustained</em> compounding of value (though that may be about to change for several reasons that I will cover later in this post).</p><p>The end result is a founder-led company with high insider ownership, no debt, and recurring revenues whose <em>income</em> actually grows when the rest of the market is generally looking gloomier, but also shrinks when Mr.Market (and the businesses and individuals of which he is composed) cast pessimism and risk-aversion aside. </p><div><hr></div><h1>The business</h1><p>Per the 2022 10K, &#8220;<em>nearly 40% of the Fortune 1000 and well over a thousand other large corporations worldwide, use the Company&#8217;s timely news alerts, research, and reports on public and private companies to make important financial risk decisions.</em>&#8221; </p><p>CRMZ&#8217;s trade-credit risk data business sees cashflow growth when the state of the economy is looking scary and AR dollars-at-risk become a more focused concern for businesses, while (I think the idea is that) the supply chain risk business sees demand when the economy is chugging along and businesses want to focus on getting their input materials reliably and on time<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a>. These two segments combine to form an asset-light business that can generate profits through both the ups and downs of the economic cycle.</p><p>Quick snapshot of some figures and commentary:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8Hos!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2835e7f3-42c5-4cb1-b5fc-a4aa2af56925_1189x615.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8Hos!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2835e7f3-42c5-4cb1-b5fc-a4aa2af56925_1189x615.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8Hos!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2835e7f3-42c5-4cb1-b5fc-a4aa2af56925_1189x615.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8Hos!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2835e7f3-42c5-4cb1-b5fc-a4aa2af56925_1189x615.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8Hos!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2835e7f3-42c5-4cb1-b5fc-a4aa2af56925_1189x615.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8Hos!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2835e7f3-42c5-4cb1-b5fc-a4aa2af56925_1189x615.png" width="1016" height="525.5172413793103" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2835e7f3-42c5-4cb1-b5fc-a4aa2af56925_1189x615.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:615,&quot;width&quot;:1189,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1016,&quot;bytes&quot;:269710,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8Hos!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2835e7f3-42c5-4cb1-b5fc-a4aa2af56925_1189x615.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8Hos!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2835e7f3-42c5-4cb1-b5fc-a4aa2af56925_1189x615.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8Hos!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2835e7f3-42c5-4cb1-b5fc-a4aa2af56925_1189x615.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8Hos!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2835e7f3-42c5-4cb1-b5fc-a4aa2af56925_1189x615.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>.</p><h3>Trade credit</h3><p>Imagine you have a neighbor, Bob, who sells you tomatoes for your restaurant. Because Bob is a good neighbor, he lets you take the tomatoes today and you assure him that you will pay for them next week once your restaurant collects the cash and credit card payments from its customers, with Bob possibly offing a discount if you pay him within just, say, half that time &#8212;an &#8220;interest rate&#8221; on the &#8220;loan&#8221; that you&#8217;d be getting the discount off of having already been implicitly baked into the sticker price of the tomatoes that you initially agreed to pay for. This arrangement is a credit between you and Bob. You get to use the tomatoes right away to make your dishes, and Bob trusts you to pay him later and records your owed amount as accounts receivable (AR) on his balance sheet.</p><p>In a business to business (B2B) setting, businesses often buy and sell goods or services from each other at various deferment terms and conditions, this is called &#8220;trade credit&#8221;; one business allows another business to take their products or services and pay for them at a later date.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-19" href="#footnote-19" target="_self">19</a></p><p>Trade credit is is the 3rd most popular form of credit used by small businesses whose access to capital markets may be limited and evidence suggests that firms &#8212;especially smaller firms&#8212; use more trade credit when credit from financial institutions is unavailable. Around 2009, the World Trade Organization estimated that 80-90% of all world trade relied on the extension of trade credit.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-20" href="#footnote-20" target="_self">20</a></p><p>Trade credit is an important source of funding for non-financial corporations (NFCs). As a volume of balance sheet trade payables, trade credit represents one third of NFC&#8217;s outstanding bank loans (as bank-guaranteed trade finance), a similar size to outstanding corporate bonds, and approximately 20% of world GDP over the past 25 years (LHS figure in the graphic below).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-21" href="#footnote-21" target="_self">21</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_byL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F75a2249c-960b-47d7-a012-4a70747d8645_638x519.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>Notice also the lengthening of supply chains over time (global value chains (GVC)), which means that the production and supply of goods have come to involve more stages and multiple countries, resulting in more complex supply chains with more intermediaries and participants, which should structurally increase the general demand for the kind of product CRMZ offers as reliance on longer and more complex supply chains may make even the largest companies &#8220;as weak as the weakest link&#8221;</em>).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-22" href="#footnote-22" target="_self">22</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-23" href="#footnote-23" target="_self">23</a></p><p>Just like how Bob trusts you to pay for the tomatoes, businesses also want to be able to trust each other to honor these trade credit agreements. Trade credit risk is about the concern that the business buying the products or services might not pay as promised or otherwise default on the &#8220;loan&#8221;; like Bob worrying that you might forget to pay him back for those tomatoes or that your restaurant might go bankrupt and simply lose the ability to pay him back.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-24" href="#footnote-24" target="_self">24</a></p><p>The challenge of assessing customer creditworthiness for trade credit suppliers is where CreditRiskMonitor.com comes in.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-25" href="#footnote-25" target="_self">25</a></p><blockquote><p><em>Our Risk Management Solutions help customers increase cash flow and profitability while mitigating credit, operational and regulatory risks by helping them answer questions such as:</em></p><p><em>&#8226; Should I extend credit to this new customer?</em></p><p><em>&#8226; Should I do business with this entity?</em></p><p><em>&#8226; What credit limit should I set?</em></p><p><em>&#8226; Will this customer pay me on time?</em></p><p><em>&#8226; How can I avoid supply chain disruption? </em></p><p>&#8212;- CRMZ competitor Dun &amp; Bradstreet&#8217;s 2018 10K<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-26" href="#footnote-26" target="_self">26</a></p></blockquote><p>.</p><p>CRMZ has two lines of business: Their CreditRiskMonitor (CRM) data product that they&#8217;ve been refining since 1998 and the SupplyChainMonitor (SCM) product that was launched in early 2022.</p><p>.</p><h3>Credit Risk Monitor (CRM) </h3><p>CRM encompasses a suite of data analytics tools focused on assessing the creditworthiness of prospective trade credit borrowers, offering some form of coverage for 30 million public and private companies<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-27" href="#footnote-27" target="_self">27</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-28" href="#footnote-28" target="_self">28</a>. (That number is largely made up of smaller private companies of which CRMZ collects trade data; you can see the 70K public companies CRMZ tracks in the sample directory, <a href="https://info.creditriskmonitor.com/Directory/">here</a>). This coverage includes CRMZ&#8217;s proprietary FRISK and PAYCE scores which the company claims to be 96% and 80% accurate in predicting bankruptcies, respectively. (<em>Note that these scores are not simply binary as may be the impression from their marketing, what this really means is that, for example, the FRISK score is able to capture/predict 96% of bankruptcies occurring during the subsequent 12 months of a company that is placed in its &#8220;high-risk&#8221; categories (1 to 5 of a 1-10 scale)</em>).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-29" href="#footnote-29" target="_self">29</a> </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OT0Q!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Faec1b4dd-870f-4c5d-bad8-8524223a1cf7_507x349.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Unless I misread the whitepaper, this means that a score of 1 indicates that a company has a 10-50% chance of bankruptcy in the next 12 months. What score is assigned if the model predicts a 51% chance of bankruptcy?</em>)</p><p>FRISK scores use daily crowdsourced sentiment analysis on the metadata collected by tracking the behavior of existing users&#8217; interactions with CRM&#8217;s various tools, data, and coverage universe (eg. what kinds of data they are clicking on and for what industries or individual companies and how this behavior is changing over time) in addition to public company data and data from credit rating agencies that are combined to produce a score intended to signal the probability of company bankruptcy within the subsequent 12-month period.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-30" href="#footnote-30" target="_self">30</a></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>We&#8217;re capturing the sentiment of the very people in charge of the extension of trade credit. When the sentiment indicates increased concern for a particular counterparty, a likely result could be the reduction in the extension of trade credit to that counterparty. The loss of that trade credit will create a hole in that firm&#8217;s working capital, escalating its risk of bankruptcy. [&#8230;] Additionally, all of these credit managers are outside of SEC Fair Disclosure</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-31" href="#footnote-31" target="_self">31</a><em> meaning that they are allowed to have non-public conversations with their competitors and customers without triggering the need to make a public filing.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Michael Flum, <a href="https://www.ceocfointerviews.com/creditriskmonitor22.html">https://www.ceocfointerviews.com/creditriskmonitor22.html</a></p></blockquote><p>As CRMZ describes it: &#8220;<em>Website click pattern data from CreditRiskMonitor subscribers, represent[s] key credit decision-makers at more than 35% of current Fortune 1000 companies plus thousands of other large companies worldwide [&#8230;] It is commonly known [that] credit managers confidentially share information with other credit managers, thus collectively, their behavior helps to provide advanced insight to financial problems in public companies.</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-32" href="#footnote-32" target="_self">32</a> </p><p>On the subject of negative feedback loops in their crowdsourced data, remember that FRISK data is also supplemented with credit rating agency scores as well as public company data (whose reporting is based on longer time frames than the daily usage statistics of the CRM subscriber metadata that might, on it&#8217;s own, produce more volatile spikes in sentiment)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-33" href="#footnote-33" target="_self">33</a>. </p><p>PAYCE scores apply to private companies for which financials are not publicly available. This is done using client companies&#8217; trade payment information along with U.S. public-record filing information (i.e., suits, federal tax liens on companies&#8217; unpaid taxes, judgments, and bankruptcy info).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-34" href="#footnote-34" target="_self">34</a> These scores are similar to the PAYDEX scores provided by Dun &amp; Bradstreet (D&amp;B)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-35" href="#footnote-35" target="_self">35</a> whose Finance &amp; Risk business segment is the primary incumbent in CRMZ&#8217;s industry. </p><p>.</p><p>Trade payment data &#8212;generally considered extremely valuable credit information&#8212; is collected from CRMZ&#8217;s <a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/trade-contributor-program">Trade Contributor Program</a>. This is a give-to-get program where companies (who are not necessarily CRM subscribers) can become a node in CRMZ&#8217;s trade data network and agree to share their trade data (essentially their AR data and associated customer business accounts tied to those AR dollars)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-36" href="#footnote-36" target="_self">36</a> with CRMZ. This gives them access to the FRISK and PAYCE scores as well as CRMZ&#8217;s Days Beyond Terms (DBT) Index score<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-37" href="#footnote-37" target="_self">37</a> and other CRM tooling on a limited coverage basis for the accounts in the contributor&#8217;s own trade payment portfolios (in the case of TCP members that are not also CRM customers) &#8212;all of which are now enhanced by the contribution of this incremental contributor data. </p><p>This data contains information related to the payment behavior of a business or entity when dealing with its suppliers and customer accounts. CRM mostly uses this for tracking the timeliness and consistency of payments made by accounts to their suppliers (CRM subscribers and data contributors) for goods or services received. </p><p>Contributors are able to see their own AR portfolios stratified by dollars at risk across various FRISK, PAYCE and DBT Index levels and drill into what individual accounts are contributing to the risk scores on those dollars in AR, they can see how promptly they are being paid by accounts vs the various anonymized counter-parties that account also does business with (that are part of CRMZ&#8217;s trade data contributor network), and receive notifications of counterparty bankruptcy filings among other things. 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/resources/blog-posts/trade-contributor-program-valuable-credit-oversight-free-charge">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/resources/blog-posts/trade-contributor-program-valuable-credit-oversight-free-charge</a>)</em></p><p>For more info on how trade receivables data is used by companies like CRMZ to determine risk at private companies, see the CRMZ podcast episode with the Flums here: <a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/resources/podcasts/trades-thing">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/resources/podcasts/trades-thing</a></p><p>You can see a sample of CRMZ&#8217;s credit risk report on themselves, here: <a href="https://info.creditriskmonitor.com/Report/Snapshot.aspx?BusinessId=2274">https://info.creditriskmonitor.com/Report/Snapshot.aspx?BusinessId=2274</a> (<em>I do find it odd that they don&#8217;t appear to have FRISK or PAYCE scores on themselves in this report</em>).</p><p>.</p><p>CRMZ&#8217;s claims that the FRISK score is 96% accurate in predicting bankruptcy and they provide an ROC curve vs the Altman-Z score to demonstrate its superiority as a metric, but I question if skewness of their training and testing data might be giving their model a boost here (given that I assume their data likely would not have had an equal balance of bankruptcies vs non-bankruptcies). For example, in describing how CRMZ developed their PAYCE scoring model, they mention that the data used &#8220;<em>a total of 60,000 unique businesses and a total of 1,150 bankruptcies</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-38" href="#footnote-38" target="_self">38</a>, so around just 2% of the training data contained true positives; this wouldn&#8217;t seem like a hard subset for a machine learning model to overfit for.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bmzy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F951b561b-0e07-47f3-897c-28a0e7da8230_614x380.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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This period covers 9,600 unique businesses and includes 580 U.S. public company bankruptcies.</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-39" href="#footnote-39" target="_self">39</a> This is not a very large data corpus<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-40" href="#footnote-40" target="_self">40</a>; perhaps Z-scores don&#8217;t work better, but work more often? I haven&#8217;t fully thought through that whitepaper yet, so maybe I&#8217;m getting this wrong and there could be details that the whitepaper does not cover. </p><p>.</p><h3>Supply Chain Monitor (SCM)</h3><p>The SCM product emerged from CRM customer account executives getting feedback from clients and learning that many were using their existing CRM product to evaluate their suppliers in addition to the typical/intended use case of evaluating buyers / trade credit &#8220;borrowers&#8221; &#8212;apparently 15-20% of CRM&#8217;s business was made up of clients who were using CRM for this purpose. Around 2019, CRMZ then decided to design a new product specifically for clients to evaluate their supplier-side risk and lunched SCM in early 2022. In SCM, users can upload lists of their suppliers and view FRISK and PAYCE scores across their supply chain, examine and monitor financial stability metrics of vendors across peers, alternatives, and across industry SIC codes<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-41" href="#footnote-41" target="_self">41</a>, as well as generate custom reports.  </p><p>CRMZ&#8217;s podcast episode with Jerome and Michael Flum on the SCM product can be found here: <a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/resources/podcasts/enter-supplychainmonitor">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/resources/podcasts/enter-supplychainmonitor</a></p><p>A description of some of the technology details behind the SCM service can be found here: <a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/research/360363/content">https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/research/360363/content</a></p><p>The opportunity here is that purchasing departments are generally much larger 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The SCM product is billed at $25,000 annually per 20 users and additional 20 user slots being sold at declining rates; the more batch-focused manner of the SCM fee schedule being a testament to the larger relative sizes of client purchasing departments vs credit risk departments &#8212;as well as likely acting as a form of per-user rebate as CRMZ continues to build out the value of SCM and learning how to best to sell the product to customers.</p><p>.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Each CreditRiskMonitor subscriber enjoys the services of a dedicated account manager to help solve problems and assist you in finding the biggest risks within your A/R portfolio.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/why-creditriskmonitor/dedicated-support">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/why-creditriskmonitor/dedicated-support</a></p></blockquote><p>Jerome Flum has stated that &#8216;<em>every client gets a personal account manager to work with</em>&#8217;.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-42" href="#footnote-42" target="_self">42</a> This high-touch customer service model &#8212;which allowed CRMZ to identify the opportunity to extend their existing product and competencies to SCM&#8212; seems to have been a drag on margins for a long time. Perhaps one could consider this a structural cost of differentiation in addition to their focus on keeping prices for customers extremely low. In this case it paid off, but overall I find this aspect unappealing. Surely in their 20yrs of operation they could have come up with some strategies to get these costs under control.</p><h3>Examining the financials</h3><p>Below we see CRMZ&#8217;s CFFO, earnings, and ROIC<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-43" href="#footnote-43" target="_self">43</a> over time&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!adoh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48ab98b8-8ba5-4fcc-b7e9-870c1bb2e834_1577x405.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!adoh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48ab98b8-8ba5-4fcc-b7e9-870c1bb2e834_1577x405.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!adoh!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48ab98b8-8ba5-4fcc-b7e9-870c1bb2e834_1577x405.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!adoh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48ab98b8-8ba5-4fcc-b7e9-870c1bb2e834_1577x405.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!adoh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48ab98b8-8ba5-4fcc-b7e9-870c1bb2e834_1577x405.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!adoh!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48ab98b8-8ba5-4fcc-b7e9-870c1bb2e834_1577x405.png" width="1200" height="308.24175824175825" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/48ab98b8-8ba5-4fcc-b7e9-870c1bb2e834_1577x405.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:374,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:89741,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!adoh!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48ab98b8-8ba5-4fcc-b7e9-870c1bb2e834_1577x405.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!adoh!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48ab98b8-8ba5-4fcc-b7e9-870c1bb2e834_1577x405.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!adoh!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48ab98b8-8ba5-4fcc-b7e9-870c1bb2e834_1577x405.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!adoh!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F48ab98b8-8ba5-4fcc-b7e9-870c1bb2e834_1577x405.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>&#8230; Notice that profits spike upwards during, and in the wake of the 2008 GFC and 2020 COVID-19 pandemic and that the company has managed to never have a year of negative CFFO since 2005 even in the off periods.</p><p>Looking at some of the other past CFFO spikes&#8230; </p><p>2005: Revenues etc didn&#8217;t change too much but they had a big bump due to &#8220;Gain on settlement of litigation&#8221; over something that began in early/mid 2004.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-44" href="#footnote-44" target="_self">44</a> </p><p>2014/16: The 10K attributes this to new subs growth w/out attributing a &#8220;why&#8221; and the company does not do conference calls. There are many economic-uncertainty events that one could speculate as having contributed to CRMZ&#8217;s uptick in business and the demand for CRM services, among them are: the oil bust during this time<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-45" href="#footnote-45" target="_self">45</a>, Greece (a major player in global shipping) becoming the first developed country to default on IMF loans in 2015<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-46" href="#footnote-46" target="_self">46</a>, and the UK Brexit referendum in June 2016.</p><p>.</p><p>Let&#8217;s look at how CRMZ has spent their cashflows over time:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Some notes on this cashflow spend:</p><ul><li><p>Net cash was positive in 2003 despite negative CFFO due to issuance of common stock for a sum of $830K. <em>(Note: I skimmed the 10QSBs from 2003 and 1Q2004 and couldn&#8217;t find this sum, so there might be something wrong with TIKR&#8217;s / S&amp;P CapitalIQ&#8217;s data here &#8212;which is what TIKR sources their data from).</em></p></li><li><p>I don&#8217;t include the cash inflows from sales of marketable securities, since I&#8217;m just trying to look at how CRMZ <em>spends</em> and retains their CFFO here. The 2008 investment was in &#8220;U.S. Government intermediate bond funds&#8221; and was sold for a slight profit in 2009; the 2010 investment was in &#8220;U.S. Treasury Note, due 11/15/2015&#8221; sold at a slight loss in 2015 due to rising interest rates at the time; the 2020 investment in municipal bonds were sold for their approximate cost basis in 2021; in 2022 CRMZ invested $4MM into ultrashort USTs and is still holding on to them.</p></li><li><p>&#8220;<em>In April 2008, the Company prepaid, without penalty, the remaining $254,000 balance on the promissory note related to the January 1999 purchase of the CreditRisk Monitor credit information service from Market Guide Inc. This note provided for periodic monthly payments with the last payment due on December 31, 2009.</em>&#8221; After this point, the company did not take on any other debt &#8212;until a PPP loan in 2020, later forgiven.</p></li><li><p>Computer equipment and software seems to consistently be the majority of CRMZ&#8217;s capex spending. I&#8217;d argue that some portion of their SG&amp;A should be capitalized as well since some of that spend goes into retaining existing clients over the longterm and could be considered as maintenance capex<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-47" href="#footnote-47" target="_self">47</a>. We can play around with this idea to get a view as to how that changes ROIC and their P/E multiples, below:</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1tAc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1616f492-a022-45a3-9165-c4129f903585_1802x1114.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1tAc!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1616f492-a022-45a3-9165-c4129f903585_1802x1114.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1tAc!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1616f492-a022-45a3-9165-c4129f903585_1802x1114.png 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><ul><li><p>We can see from 2009 to 2019 that dividends also made up a large portion of CFFO spending; there are points where no CFFO is retained and instead capital is simply returned to shareholders. We can at least surmise from this that the Flums are not simply interested in empire building. I assume the pause in 2020 was done for the dual purpose of 1) strengthening the company&#8217;s balance sheet in the face of economic uncertainty &#8212;which I assume was similarly the reason for the US bonds investment in 2008&#8212; and 2) retaining excess cash for investment into CRMZ&#8217;s Supply Chain Monitor business that began development in 2019 and was launched in 2022.</p></li><li><p>The constant middling bond investments and dividend distributions coinciding with the long period of falling CFFO seems to imply that management couldn&#8217;t really find any great uses for their capital until starting work on SCM in 2019. I think is this something to watch.</p></li><li><p>The spike in net cash in 2020 beyond their CFFO was mostly due to the injection of a Payment Protection Plan loan of $1.56MM that was later forgiven in 2021; &#8220;<em>In accordance with the requirements for forgiveness of the PPP loan under the CARES Act, the Company has used the entire proceeds from the PPP loan for eligible payroll, benefits, rent, utility costs, and maintained its employment levels.</em>&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>.</p><h3>Business moat commentary</h3><p>The business has a strong foothold in providing financial risk analysis services, with a significant subscriber base that includes 40% of Fortune 1000 companies. Though, IMO, the threat of new entrants is relatively high. </p><p>On the public data side (eg. where the FRISK scores are derived) IDK that this isn&#8217;t something that any other well capitalized competitor or entrant couldn&#8217;t also do for themselves (eg. Google or anyone else with some data engineering, analysis, and machine learning skills)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-48" href="#footnote-48" target="_self">48</a>. The private data side (eg. the PAYCE scores) has some barriers to entry in the fact that private businesses&#8217; internal trade receivables accounts data is not something that is very willingly shared, but these programs do have a precedent at many corporate ratings businesses that collect trade data (eg. CRMZ and D&amp;B) and, to my understanding, it&#8217;s not as if these networks are defended by any kind of regulatory moats. However, the recent failure of the launch of Meta&#8217;s Threads feature<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-49" href="#footnote-49" target="_self">49</a> does give some evidence of a well-capitalized and -reputed competitor failing to capture market share due to a lack of in-place network effects.</p><p>The company's Trade Contributor Program, which aggregates confidential trade receivables data from subscribers and other give-to-get contributors, creates a network effect that enhances its data quality and relevance. So long as CRMZ continues to provide value to subscribers and contributors (I believe Flum has mentioned that their subscriber re-sign rate is around 90%) via their proprietary ratings and data tooling, I&#8217;d expect this network to strengthen over time.</p><p>The company relies on data suppliers like corporate issuer ratings from key Nationally Recognized Statistical Rating Organizations (NRSROs), it&#8217;s their main COGS expense. If it has established long-term contractual agreements and diversified its data sources, its bargaining power could be strong, but really IDK. I would say the power CRMZ has over any of their data suppliers is likely low, though note that their proprietary scores like FRISK and PAYCE are &#8212;aside from external ratings agency scores that are blended into FRISK&#8212; based on public information or data from trade data contributors, so their proprietary data is not too dependent on much upstream proprietary data, itself.</p><p>CRMZ&#8217;s main customers are corporate credit and procurement departments. The business may have a degree of pricing power if it can continue to deliver accurate and timely information, but CRMZ competes with Dun &amp; Bradstreet&#8217;s Finance &amp; Risk business, Experian&#8217;s, and Equifax&#8217;s credit risk analysis products<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-50" href="#footnote-50" target="_self">50</a> largely on costs, so IDK what kind of pricing power CRMZ has over buyers; goal of being the &#8220;lowest cost provider&#8221; is right in their 10K.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>A common pattern is to identify the most valuable use case for your data asset yourself; wrap it into a software app; and then sell the app. Google is the canonical example here: one of their data assets is &#8216;knowledge of customer intent&#8217;, which they wrap into their Ads business. Advertisers covet the ability to get their product in front of the &#8216;right&#8217; customers; they&#8217;d do this themselves if they knew who the right customers were; Google has that info, and so does it for them, at a price. Experian does the same for consumer credit data;</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://pivotal.substack.com/p/how-to-price-a-data-asset">Pivotal</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-51" href="#footnote-51" target="_self">51</a></p></blockquote><p>In both the 10K and in interviews with Flum Sr., it is noted that CRMZ aims to be the lowest-priced services compared to major competitors while maintaining high accuracy levels (as demonstrated by their FRISK and PAYCE scores in stratifying bankruptcy probability). This counter-positioning strategy I think is one of the main strengths of CRMZ.</p><p>CRMZ&#8217;s CRM data product differs from the primary incumbent in their industry, Dun &amp; Bradstreet (D&amp;B or ticker DNB), by offering a low-cost subscription model (though with a less well-covered universe of private companies) to D&amp;B&#8217;s higher cost &#8212;and Flum Sr. would argue &#8216;monopolistic rent seeking&#8217;&#8212; data offerings. This counter positioning can be traced back to CRMZ early strategy of competing with Dun &amp; Bradstreet. </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Nobody gets fired for using DNB</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Michael Flum</p></blockquote><p>In CRMZ&#8217;s early years of operation, when their data product was less robust, D&amp;B sold their customers prepaid units and/or reports (&#8220;units&#8221;) on an annual basis, which they could then use to buy DNB products throughout the year<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-52" href="#footnote-52" target="_self">52</a>; these were pricey reports, so customers had to be judicious about which companies they would use these credits on. Utilizing CRM as an initial low-cost filter for further credit risk analysis considerably decreased the evaluation expenses that client risk teams dedicated to potential vendors &#8212;allowing them to ensure that only financially strong vendors qualified for more expensive and comprehensive due diligence such as utilizing one of their DNB credits. In 2005, CRMZ became aware that DNB had also begun selling some parts of its service on a subscription basis, expanding this practice under the trade name &#8220;DNBi&#8221; in 2006. </p><p>In any case, Flum&#8217;s current position is that CRMZ&#8217;s data is now at a point where they are more confident in competing with any other credit risk data product in their space in a more head-to-head manner and the company is still able to compete on price because D&amp;B is just so large and dominate in the industry that they simply don&#8217;t need to make an effort to meet CRMZ&#8217;s prices (doing so would just be too much of an opportunity cost vs D&amp;B ability to continue exercising their monopolistic entrenchment in the space). Utilizing CRM/SCM as an initial filter for credit risk and supplier research still decreases the evaluation expenses for client risk and procurement teams before financially strong vendors qualify for more expensive and comprehensive due diligence and site assessments &#8212;though no doubt to a lesser extent than if D&amp;B had stuck to their credits-based model. All that aside, CRMZ&#8217;s main data focus actually differs a bit from D&amp;B&#8217;s.</p><p>This difference is somewhat illustrated by the fact that DNB and CRMZ share 80% of their customers. In an interview with Jerome and his son Michael Flum, Flum Sr. notes that D&amp;B&#8217;s main source of proprietary data comes from their <em>breadth</em> of trade receivables data coverage of <em>private</em> companies. In contrast, CRMZ&#8217;s coverage is more focused on <em>depth</em> of coverage on <em>public</em> companies (covering 60-70K public companies and 6-9MM private companies via client trade receivables data).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-53" href="#footnote-53" target="_self">53</a> Flum contends that the majority of dollars-at-risk at most businesses comes from their exposure to public companies and prominent private companies &#8212;thus likely falling into CRMZ&#8217;s private coverage universe&#8212; both of which tend to be larger and thus represent a larger volume of business dollars for companies despite usually making up only a small portion of a business&#8217;s total number of counter-parties.  </p><p>As noted earlier, trade credit is the 3rd most popular form of credit used by small businesses whose access to capital markets may be limited and that firms use more trade credit when credit from financial institutions is unavailable &#8212;the current environment of rising interest rates comes to mind. CRMZ&#8217;s product is positioned to be cheaper than D&amp;B or their more direct comps in the credit risk analytics space and thus more readily available to SMEs vs larger companies that may be less price sensitive and thus more likely to simply go with the default incumbent, D&amp;B.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-54" href="#footnote-54" target="_self">54</a> </p><p>.</p><p>(<em>Disappointingly, CRMZ&#8217;s 10K and other filings mostly report the bare minimum in terms of financial details or KPIs (unlike other SaaS platforms like, say, Thryv Holdings or, fellow OTCQX member, OTC Markets Group) and does not have quarterly or annual calls, so it&#8217;s hard to track typical SaaS KPIs of the business over time (eg. subscriber growth, number of clients, ARPU, MAU, churn, breakouts between the CRM and SCM segments, etc). TBH, based on just this fact of limited disclosure, alone, I&#8217;d say a lot really just depends on you liking the business model and trusting management incentives.</em>)</p><p>CRMZ does not publish KPIs on their 10Ks, but Flum Sr. claims that CRM&#8217;s re-sign rates with customers is around 90%. The consistent growth in revenues over time would seem to indicate this is the case.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_ZX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F820575df-1fd8-4d8c-9b97-79d689e49cad_1577x405.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_ZX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F820575df-1fd8-4d8c-9b97-79d689e49cad_1577x405.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_ZX!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F820575df-1fd8-4d8c-9b97-79d689e49cad_1577x405.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_ZX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F820575df-1fd8-4d8c-9b97-79d689e49cad_1577x405.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_ZX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F820575df-1fd8-4d8c-9b97-79d689e49cad_1577x405.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_ZX!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F820575df-1fd8-4d8c-9b97-79d689e49cad_1577x405.png" width="874" height="224.50274725274724" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/820575df-1fd8-4d8c-9b97-79d689e49cad_1577x405.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:374,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:874,&quot;bytes&quot;:86391,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_ZX!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F820575df-1fd8-4d8c-9b97-79d689e49cad_1577x405.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_ZX!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F820575df-1fd8-4d8c-9b97-79d689e49cad_1577x405.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_ZX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F820575df-1fd8-4d8c-9b97-79d689e49cad_1577x405.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G_ZX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F820575df-1fd8-4d8c-9b97-79d689e49cad_1577x405.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(While revenues are steadily rising over time (at a 9.3% CAGR) with consistently high GPM, so are their SG&amp;A costs &#8212;greatly outpacing the COGS primarily from data and production expenses. I wonder what this might imply about the quality of the product? How much of sales is driven by organic growth vs driven by consistent active marketing?)</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zFAm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a941714-e1c1-4abe-9d5e-86a15acc4f76_731x443.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zFAm!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a941714-e1c1-4abe-9d5e-86a15acc4f76_731x443.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zFAm!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0a941714-e1c1-4abe-9d5e-86a15acc4f76_731x443.png 848w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>While revenue per employee has been ever so slightly rising over time (at a CAGR of around 3.4% from 2002 to 2022), the apparent lack of any significant scale economies or operating leverage is concerning.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UezG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea08010e-540c-4d4b-bcd6-94e993b2ab06_930x297.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UezG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fea08010e-540c-4d4b-bcd6-94e993b2ab06_930x297.png 424w, 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Michael Flum has indicted that SG&amp;A spikes are also associated with much higher sales commissions for acquiring new customers &#8212;vs re-signers.  </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Rj1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c048db8-2053-48cd-9633-4bef0616d251_1395x623.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9Rj1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c048db8-2053-48cd-9633-4bef0616d251_1395x623.png 424w, 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In the SMB market, our competition generally includes Equifax, Experian and other consumer credit providers that offer commercial data. Additionally, <strong>there is a fragmented tail of low cost, vertical and regionally focused point solutions in this market that may be attractive to certain clients but lack the scale and coverage breadth to compete holistically</strong>.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Dun &amp; Bradstreet&#8217;s 2022 10K</p></blockquote><p>(Just going by the listed competitors DNB and CRMZ have in common and CRMZ&#8217;s product offerings, I&#8217;d put CRMZ somewhere in between the &#8220;<em>SMB market</em>&#8221;- and &#8216;<em>low cost point solution lacking the scale and coverage to compete holistically</em>&#8217;-buckets).</p><p>CRMZ&#8217;s main comps and primary incumbents in their industry &#8212;those listed as competitors in their own 10K, anyway&#8212; are Dun &amp; Bradstreet (DNB), Equifax (EFX), and Experian (EXPN). These companies don&#8217;t have the same kind of pure play B2B risk-analytics exposure that CRMZ has (which seems to contribute to the company&#8217;s lumpy performance vs their more diversified peers). Looking at the respective 10Ks for 2022: DNB has the Finance &amp; Risk segment that generates 60% of revenues, EFX appears to only deal with commercial credit reporting in its USIS segment that makes up 33% of revenues, and <a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/374303/content">EXPGY</a> groups B2B credit risk analytics under its Decisioning group which makes up just 21% of the company&#8217;s revenues.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-56" href="#footnote-56" target="_self">56</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vY0y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3ffde5a8-ff0f-45c8-84bd-a0feae6623b8_1577x378.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KlQc!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa381e1df-ec82-4c71-8dba-e9cf85b68200_1578x378.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KlQc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa381e1df-ec82-4c71-8dba-e9cf85b68200_1578x378.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KlQc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa381e1df-ec82-4c71-8dba-e9cf85b68200_1578x378.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>Note that the 2009 tax rate was negative due to the reversal of valuation allowances that were set aside in prior years due to the history of losses in CRMZ&#8217;s yearly years up until 2005</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-57" href="#footnote-57" target="_self">57</a><em>. In 2017, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (enacted on December 22, 2017) reduced the federal statutory corporate income tax rate from 35% to 21% for the company's 2018 tax year. With the lower tax rate, the company expected that the future tax liabilities, previously recorded at the higher rate, would be less burdensome. Thus CMRZ reduced the value of its deferred tax liabilities and actually recognized a tax benefit rather than deficit</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-58" href="#footnote-58" target="_self">58</a><em>; the tax rate is recorded as positive in this year due to the fact that the company&#8217;s EBT was negative for the year</em>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-59" href="#footnote-59" target="_self">59</a>)</p><p>.</p><p>As a positive, CRMZ management don&#8217;t seem to have ever been too concerned with playing the ESG signaling game that many larger companies might care about. IMO, it&#8217;s a waste of time and totally orthogonal to growing ROIC, FCF, etc. I see this as a green flag.</p><div id="youtube2-Mx6ePidFBZo" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;Mx6ePidFBZo&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Mx6ePidFBZo?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>You know, tongue-in-cheek, I think ESG is something to be concerned about but at the same time I almost feel like this is a side effect of the the bull market to some degree. Like when you personally, if you take it to an individual level, I can care a lot more about ancillary rights of marginalized groups when I don't have to worry about putting food on my table or putting you know a roof over my head those are more basic needs that I would be concentrating on if I didn't have them. So, I feel like some of these evolutions towards those sorts of &#8216;risk&#8217; concerns are just basically because we&#8217;re getting to a point where we&#8217;re not worrying about profitability so we're concentrating on something else I think in general as markets pull back that&#8217;s going to be the return.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Michael Flum, <a href="https://youtu.be/7UEWkdepMNs">Planet Microcap interview</a></p></blockquote><p>Michael Flum&#8217;s comment here echoes the same kind of warning of &#8220;end of history&#8221; Marxist ideas that have also been discussed by Peter Thiel:</p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;There&#8217;s a Marxist theory that the time for Communism is when interest rates go to zero, because a 0% interest rate is a sign that the capitalists no longer have any idea what to do with their money &#8212; there are no good investments left and that&#8217;s why rates are zero. Therefore, all you can do at that point is redistribute the capital</em>.&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://youtu.be/iRleB034EC8?t=2525">Peter Thiel</a></p></blockquote><p>.</p><p>Lastly, for whatever it&#8217;s worth, the company has a pretty average review score on Glassdoor with 40 reviews total<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-60" href="#footnote-60" target="_self">60</a>, which I think is a pretty good sample size considering that as of February 1, 2023, the company reported having only approximately 90 employees. IMO, a &#8216;pretty average&#8217; employee review score is good to see when is comes to tiny, illiquid, microcaps in the otherwise fraud-fraught OTC universe; employee satisfaction is at least an indicator of non-toxic management and work environment.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qe3a!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8b4a712-e21b-42a2-a6f8-4bcd5ee72859_755x595.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Qe3a!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc8b4a712-e21b-42a2-a6f8-4bcd5ee72859_755x595.png 424w, 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With his annual total compensation for the past 10 years varying around $150K-$200K since 2013 (the date of the oldest proxy available) &#8212;the absolute oldest record of Flum&#8217;s compensation I could find was in the company&#8217;s March 31, 1997 10KSB filing where Flum&#8217;s <em>normalized</em> compensation from 1994-1996 was around $120K<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-61" href="#footnote-61" target="_self">61</a>&#8212; that puts the current value of his total equity ownership at ~80x his annual compensation (using the $2.55/sh stock price that CRMZ currently sits at as I&#8217;m writing this).</p><p>Something that does make me look askance at management is that, I&#8217;m sorry to say, in the interviews I&#8217;ve seen with Flum Sr., he often derides investors&#8217; inclination for smoothness and growth and throws out &#8216;<em>man in the arena</em>&#8217; excuses that I find are actually very common fallbacks for managers that have underperformed their peers. (<em>See timestamp 1:22:38</em>)</p><div id="youtube2-WzYjUvdDD_o" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;WzYjUvdDD_o&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:&quot;4958&quot;,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/WzYjUvdDD_o?start=4958&amp;rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>He talks about the lack of fundamental distinction between SaaS and &#8216;software subscription&#8217; businesses and criticizes the common growth-at-all-costs strategy of many modern SaaS businesses as if this is all some kind of folksy insight (as if the former is anything other than semantics and as if the latter is something that has no rationale and has not long been discussed by investors)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-62" href="#footnote-62" target="_self">62</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-63" href="#footnote-63" target="_self">63</a>. At the same time, CRMZ&#8217;s continually rising revenues don&#8217;t seem to be able to make proportional contributions to their own cashflows.</p><p>Flum&#8217;s comments here appear to be more used like a rhetorical tool to shift the conversation away from expectations of economies of scale and operating leverage that would be commonly expected of a cloud-based software subscription business (or whatever you want to label it) like CRMZ&#8217;s &#8212;which has had 20+ years to work that out&#8212; or DNB&#8217;s (which had consistent op. margins above 20% for the past 20yrs until their take-private in 2019).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Fcsw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F387ba249-5b36-44f1-b474-c5b80e7aaa88_1570x410.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is a very subjective data point, but you can listen for yourself here and &#8212;taking into consideration the context of the question this is a response to&#8212; make your own judgement; maybe I&#8217;m just being overly harsh to compensate for the fact that I otherwise like this stock a lot, but smells off to me. (<em>See timestamp 1:34:14</em>)</p><div id="youtube2-WzYjUvdDD_o" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;WzYjUvdDD_o&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:&quot;5653&quot;,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/WzYjUvdDD_o?start=5653&amp;rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Taking on a more generous interpretation of Flum Sr.&#8217;s comments here &#8212;combined with some final brief comments he and Flum Jr. make near the end of this interview regarding scaling and marketing pushes&#8212; I suppose it could also be seen as not wanting to make any incremental step that is not cashflow positive in the near-term; a difference between jogging with your eyes on a compass vs trying to sprint to what might <em>look</em> like the top of the mountain and ending up winded; not every horizon on a trail is the peak &#8212;by definition, most are not. Though I&#8217;d, again, note CRMZ&#8217;s lumpy cashflows.</p><p>In any case, the younger Michael Flum is now CEO of the company and he has mentioned wanting to implement more technology solutions/interventions to avoid further staffing costs (1:32:36 in the video above, &#8220;<em>technology interventions as opposed to staffing interventions&#8221;</em>), noting that marketing and commissioning are their largest SG&amp;A expenses with sales force only being an issue in periods of spiking demand. (<em>Again, I wonder what this might imply about the quality of the product and the company&#8217;s ability to generate organic growth given that so much of revenue apparently has to be driven right back into active marketing</em>). </p><p>Due to how small the company&#8217;s existing margins are, any small (sustainable) improvement would be significant, percentage-wise; increasing margins by 1pps would be a 12% increase to CRMZ&#8217;s current 8% operating margins. Developing these technology levers, in addition to the rollout of the SCM product, may prove to be a positive long-term inflection point in CRMZ&#8217;s margins.</p><p>.</p><p>By the way, like a quickly mentioned earlier, the Flums hosted a podcast for a while in 2022 and it offers some insight into how they think about the general business and business environment.</p><iframe class="spotify-wrap podcast" data-attrs="{&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6765630000ba8a1a9060ea6dacfd772cda3c51&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;The CreditRiskMonitor Podcast&quot;,&quot;subtitle&quot;:&quot;Mike Flum &amp; Jerry Flum&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Podcast&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.spotify.com/show/3Z2Mh4shtIzyjALpb49Up9&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;noScroll&quot;:false}" src="https://open.spotify.com/embed/show/3Z2Mh4shtIzyjALpb49Up9" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen="true" allow="encrypted-media" loading="lazy" data-component-name="Spotify2ToDOM"></iframe><p>.</p><p>I also happened to notice that fellow FRMO long &#8212;actually <em>much</em> long&#8217;er and <em>for</em> <em>longer</em> than myself&#8212; Lawrence Goldstein of Santa Monica Partners LP (SMPLP), who is on the FRMO Corp. board of directors, is also a material beneficial owner of CRMZ, so I&#8217;d consider myself in good company (or perhaps more accurately and possibly less encouraging, like-minded company).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-64" href="#footnote-64" target="_self">64</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-65" href="#footnote-65" target="_self">65</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C9mI!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0043c8da-6895-4b89-a939-bdf1606ee034_1197x418.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C9mI!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0043c8da-6895-4b89-a939-bdf1606ee034_1197x418.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!C9mI!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0043c8da-6895-4b89-a939-bdf1606ee034_1197x418.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000114036123028586/0001140361-23-028586-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000114036123028586/0001140361-23-028586-index.html</a>)</em></p><p>Comparing Goldstein&#8217;s CRMZ sharecount and the stock&#8217;s price, we see that the market value of his position is around (693744 x 2.5 =) $1,734,360 which makes CRMZ somewhere between just 1% to 1.5% of SMPLP&#8217;s total public portfolio when going by their SC 13F-HR forms (which is missing a few stocks that SMPLP reports beneficial ownership of in <a href="https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/?r=el#/dateRange=custom&amp;category=form-cat3&amp;ciks=0000904793&amp;entityName=SANTA%2520MONICA%2520PARTNERS%2520LP%2520(CIK%25200000904793)&amp;startdt=2001-01-01&amp;enddt=2023-10-27">13G and 13D forms</a>).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-66" href="#footnote-66" target="_self">66</a></p><p>An interesting thing to note here is that CRMZ does not appear in the 13F holdings report forms (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/divisions/investment/13ffaq#Question20:~:text=Q%3A%20What%20are%20form%20types%2013F%2DHR%20and%2013F%2DNT%20that%20are%20referred%20to%20in%20the%20EDGAR%20Filer%20Manual%3F%20What%20was%20Form%2013F%2DE%3F">SEC Schedule 13F-HR</a>)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-67" href="#footnote-67" target="_self">67</a> for Goldstein&#8217;s SMPLP. If you were to look at SMPLP&#8217;s most recent 13F-HR, you&#8217;d never know that they owned CreditRiskMonitor.com; most insider and institutional holdings tracker websites miss this fact as well (note CRMZ&#8217;s absence here <a href="https://fintel.io/i/santa-monica-partners">https://fintel.io/i/santa-monica-partners</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-68" href="#footnote-68" target="_self">68</a> and here <a href="https://whalewisdom.com/filer/santa-monica-partners-lp">https://whalewisdom.com/filer/santa-monica-partners-lp</a>). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aGdt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F06876eb0-dfd7-49eb-96b5-1e58020e388b_1119x828.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/904793/000090479323000008/0000904793-23-000008-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/904793/000090479323000008/0000904793-23-000008-index.htm</a></em>) </p><p>The only way to tell that SMPLP is involved with CRMZ is by looking at <a href="https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/?r=el#/q=CREDITRISKMONITOR.COM&amp;dateRange=custom&amp;category=form-cat0&amp;ciks=0000904793&amp;entityName=SANTA%2520MONICA%2520PARTNERS%2520LP%2520(CIK%25200000904793)&amp;startdt=2001-01-01&amp;enddt=2023-11-27&amp;sort=desc">the 13G filings</a>. My understanding is that a Schedule 13G is filed when an investment firm acquires beneficial ownership of 5% or more of a company's voting class <em>with no intention of altering or impacting control over the issuer or company </em>(in the case of CRMZ where the founder owns the majority of the shares, what could you do anyways?); unlike the other companies in SMPLP&#8217;s 13F-HR, under these conditions, they can just report it in 13G forms and amendments &#8212;which I assume is the same reason that they do no report their FRMO position in the 13F-HR. </p><p>*If anyone reading this knows more about how this works and why CRMZ does not show up in the 13F-HR forms, do let me know.</p><div><hr></div><h1>Valuation</h1><p>The stock trades at a 9.15x TEV/FCFF (10.9% FCFF yield). Taking the 20yr average FCFF compared to current TEV, we have an average TEV/FCFF multiple of 18.61x (5.4% FCFF yield). Given that 10yr USTs are now around a 5% yield, I&#8217;d say that even for this kind of growing, niche, family-owned/operated, SaaS business the price might be a bit much &#8212;in a normalized FCFF future scenario, the stock is going to have to come down significantly to bake in the higher risk free rate.</p><p>If you think that deglobalization and heightened credit risk trends are going to continue or accelerate going forward, then the current 9x TEV/FCFF could turn out to be a good price as I&#8217;d expect that FCFF to only grow as more more businesses take a greater interest in their trade credit and supplier risks.</p><p>From the 20yr chart below, I just use the through-cycle FCF growth (which I take as the CAGR from 2006 to 2019, the lowest FCF-positive periods before the lead-ups to the most prominent left-tail financial crises in which CRMZ has thrived) of 2%/yr CAGR<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-69" href="#footnote-69" target="_self">69</a> as CRMZ&#8217;s longrun, terminal growth rate.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wxY8!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2637d46a-12ac-4779-82d4-ee8f61769508_1539x402.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wxY8!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2637d46a-12ac-4779-82d4-ee8f61769508_1539x402.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wxY8!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2637d46a-12ac-4779-82d4-ee8f61769508_1539x402.png 848w, 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Working backwards, this gets us an implied FCF growth rate of 7.5%.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8su!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5ef96f1-c4e5-4328-9da4-35ef8aa5cb94_865x500.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8su!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5ef96f1-c4e5-4328-9da4-35ef8aa5cb94_865x500.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8su!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa5ef96f1-c4e5-4328-9da4-35ef8aa5cb94_865x500.png 848w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://www.gurufocus.com/stock/CRMZ/dcf">https://www.gurufocus.com/stock/CRMZ/dcf</a>)</em></p><p>(<em>If the SCM product succeeds at adding some acyclicality into CRMZ&#8217;s FCF that 2% terminal rate may be justifiably bumped to the more-commonly-used longterm GDP growth rate of 4%, putting CRMZ&#8217;s fair value around $2.77</em>).</p><p>We know the prices of the CRM and SCM subscriptions. What kind of simple assumptions for growth at the level of the unit economics would be required to achieve this FCF?</p><p>Below, I just take the price implied FCF growth rate from the simple DCF model above and work backwards to see what kind of revenues CRMZ would need make over the next 10 years in order to achieve that FCF&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oYIE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7abbd651-0201-4085-bd67-2056dcc8fd8e_1446x242.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oYIE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7abbd651-0201-4085-bd67-2056dcc8fd8e_1446x242.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oYIE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7abbd651-0201-4085-bd67-2056dcc8fd8e_1446x242.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oYIE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7abbd651-0201-4085-bd67-2056dcc8fd8e_1446x242.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oYIE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7abbd651-0201-4085-bd67-2056dcc8fd8e_1446x242.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oYIE!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7abbd651-0201-4085-bd67-2056dcc8fd8e_1446x242.png" width="1200" height="200.8298755186722" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7abbd651-0201-4085-bd67-2056dcc8fd8e_1446x242.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:242,&quot;width&quot;:1446,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1200,&quot;bytes&quot;:72935,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oYIE!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7abbd651-0201-4085-bd67-2056dcc8fd8e_1446x242.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oYIE!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7abbd651-0201-4085-bd67-2056dcc8fd8e_1446x242.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oYIE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7abbd651-0201-4085-bd67-2056dcc8fd8e_1446x242.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!oYIE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7abbd651-0201-4085-bd67-2056dcc8fd8e_1446x242.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>Using a 10% FCF growth rate in the DCF model would imply a 7% revenue CAGR target and put CRMZ&#8217;s fair</em> <em>value at $3.05. Is a 200bps improvement from past base</em> <em>rate revenue growth reasonable to expect in a deglobalized, higher-rates environment? I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s too crazy. Also, both revenue growth and margins would actually be much much higher is using 20yr CAGR and median, respectively.</em>)</p><p>&#8230; Given that the price implied revenue growth rate essentially just projects the past 10yrs into the coming 10yrs, I think the current price is reasonable if not undervalued, depending on how heavily you weight the probabilities of the possible future macro environments. This implied forward 10yr $52MM revenue figure would still be minuscule compared to D&amp;B&#8217;s 2022 North America revenues for their Finance &amp; Risk segment of $866.9MM.&nbsp;</p><p>Assuming static FCF margins &#8212;ie. no increased operational leverage from Michael Flum&#8217;s planned &#8220;<em>technology interventions</em>&#8221;&#8212; how many new CRM and SCM subscribers does CRMZ need to gain each year to maintain a 7.5% growth in FCF for the next 10yrs?</p><p>Recall: As of 2023, the CRM World Wide flagship product is billed on a per user basis at around $11,450 for the first user and $1,680 per additional user with additional add-on features available. The SCM product is billed at $25,000 annually per 20 users and additional 20 user slots being sold at declining rates.</p><p>CRMZ does not publish their client numbers or other KPIs, but just assuming that the amount of SCM users since the 2022 launch has been negligible and taking the entry price for both products, we can get a very rough idea of existing subscribers using the 2022 revenue figure and use the implied revenue expectations from the DCF model to play around with the numbers to guess at how many additional new subscribers CRMZ would need to acquire and retain in order to meet the price-implied forward target figures:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NwRf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6cb4aed-d702-47ea-a82d-3c72d184aa99_953x323.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In the median case, does it seem reasonable that CRMZ can add around 150 new CRM accounts and 70 SCM accounts a year for the next ten years? I&#8217;d think so as long as global credit continues to tighten and supply chains continue to face reconfiguration strain, as they&#8217;ve been doing.</p><p>I&#8217;m hesitant of painting a brighter picture for CRMZ&#8217;s FCF via straight-line projection here due to the boom-bust nature of how FCF has worked historically. Yet, keep in mind that SCM, in success mode, could add a lot of acyclicality to the company&#8217;s otherwise <em>counter</em>-cyclical, CRM-based business.</p><p>Let&#8217;s suppose total FCF falls back down from $1.5MM to the 2019 year-end level of $750K, before stabilizing:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!co0F!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0feeb34-f5c2-4a89-81ee-0521937f80bb_857x494.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!co0F!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0feeb34-f5c2-4a89-81ee-0521937f80bb_857x494.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!co0F!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0feeb34-f5c2-4a89-81ee-0521937f80bb_857x494.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!co0F!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0feeb34-f5c2-4a89-81ee-0521937f80bb_857x494.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!co0F!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0feeb34-f5c2-4a89-81ee-0521937f80bb_857x494.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!co0F!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0feeb34-f5c2-4a89-81ee-0521937f80bb_857x494.png" width="857" height="494" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a0feeb34-f5c2-4a89-81ee-0521937f80bb_857x494.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:494,&quot;width&quot;:857,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:104613,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!co0F!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0feeb34-f5c2-4a89-81ee-0521937f80bb_857x494.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!co0F!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0feeb34-f5c2-4a89-81ee-0521937f80bb_857x494.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!co0F!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0feeb34-f5c2-4a89-81ee-0521937f80bb_857x494.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!co0F!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa0feeb34-f5c2-4a89-81ee-0521937f80bb_857x494.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This gets us a 69% decline in share price. Though it should be noted that the last time FCF was around this level in 2019, CRMZ only traded at a low of $1.30 and average of $1.60 (vs the $0.68 target in this simple model). </p><p>From a technical analysis POV, I&#8217;d point out this TTM squeeze chart of the last 3yrs:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0xh6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae2d4c23-9139-4f2e-be33-5b09ac74fc4d_2014x822.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0xh6!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae2d4c23-9139-4f2e-be33-5b09ac74fc4d_2014x822.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0xh6!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae2d4c23-9139-4f2e-be33-5b09ac74fc4d_2014x822.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0xh6!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae2d4c23-9139-4f2e-be33-5b09ac74fc4d_2014x822.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0xh6!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fae2d4c23-9139-4f2e-be33-5b09ac74fc4d_2014x822.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I don&#8217;t look at charts very much, but I do think that looking at a stock&#8217;s historical momentum and volatility can be interesting (if you&#8217;ve ever read Ted Warren&#8217;s &#8220;<em>How to Make the Stock Market Make Money for You</em>&#8221;).</p><p>Of course, I&#8217;m not looking at CRMZ as a short/medium-term trade and the stock is too illiquid to treat as such, so the economics of the business matter a lot more here. Still, it&#8217;s interesting to think about what this could be saying re. market participants&#8217; sentiment and thoughts on the stock&#8217;s outlook. </p><div><hr></div><h1>Catalysts</h1><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Never invest on the basis of a story on Page One - that is the efficient market. Invest on the basis of a story on Page Sixteen, that is headed on its way to Page One.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Don Coxe</p></blockquote><h3>End of ZIRP</h3><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>If you go into the wilderness in Maine and there&#8217;s reindeer and they&#8217;re populating like crazy, they will take over the world unless there's a natural predator in the forest, a wolf; you kill the wolves and the reindeer go wild. In debt, the natural predator is interest rates.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Jerome Flum</p></blockquote><blockquote><p><em>Interviewer: Do most businesses do routine credit checks on their customers; is it standard practice?</em></p><p><em>Mr. [Michael] Flum: Yes and no. For most sophisticated businesses, credit checks have certainly been more standard operating procedures, but there is a big distinction between conducting an initial review and ongoing monitoring of customers. Most public businesses have a process for approving credit requests and quarterly reviews of outstanding AR to assess the allowances reserved for bad debts as required for regulatory compliance. Most of those businesses have a team dedicated to processing credit applications and a collection function, whether in-house or outsourced.</em></p><p><em>That said, since the Great Recession, the world has been in an exceedingly easy credit regime supported by the central bank policies of very-low-to-zero interest rates and quantitative easing. <strong>These policies have made it exceedingly difficult for low-quality, non-profitable, businesses to go bankrupt since they&#8217;ve had consistent access to cheap, plentiful credit and can roll that financing over at each maturity.</strong> A fact reflected by the spectacular growth in the number of &#8220;zombie&#8221; companies, those that cannot effectively cover their interest expenses with their earnings, over this period.</em></p><p><em><strong>We&#8217;re already starting to see risk mounting in the B2B market, foretelling a spike in bankruptcies</strong>. &#8212;- <a href="https://www.ceocfointerviews.com/creditriskmonitor22.html">https://www.ceocfointerviews.com/creditriskmonitor22.html</a></em></p></blockquote><p>May in the market believe &#8212;maybe better described as hope&#8212; that the Fed will be forced to pivot on rates and that the economy will return to the zero-bound rate environment that has characterized the last decade. Though, what if J. Powell actually means what he says? Here is a some snippets on Jerome Powell and the subject of lowering rates from 2022 to today:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5VDx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbbcbba6-f0ee-4fb7-8b01-e1ed313d55cf_783x196.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5VDx!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbbcbba6-f0ee-4fb7-8b01-e1ed313d55cf_783x196.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5VDx!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbbcbba6-f0ee-4fb7-8b01-e1ed313d55cf_783x196.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5VDx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbbcbba6-f0ee-4fb7-8b01-e1ed313d55cf_783x196.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5VDx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbbcbba6-f0ee-4fb7-8b01-e1ed313d55cf_783x196.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5VDx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbbcbba6-f0ee-4fb7-8b01-e1ed313d55cf_783x196.png" width="783" height="196" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bbbcbba6-f0ee-4fb7-8b01-e1ed313d55cf_783x196.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:196,&quot;width&quot;:783,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:31124,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5VDx!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbbcbba6-f0ee-4fb7-8b01-e1ed313d55cf_783x196.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5VDx!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbbcbba6-f0ee-4fb7-8b01-e1ed313d55cf_783x196.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5VDx!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbbcbba6-f0ee-4fb7-8b01-e1ed313d55cf_783x196.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5VDx!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbbbcbba6-f0ee-4fb7-8b01-e1ed313d55cf_783x196.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>The Federal Reserve will deliver more interest rate hikes next year even as the economy slips towards a possible recession, Fed Chair Jerome Powell said on Wednesday</strong>, arguing that a higher cost would be paid if the U.S. central bank does not get a firmer grip on inflation.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/fed-set-slow-pace-rate-hikes-inflation-grinch-loses-steam-2022-12-14/">https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/fed-set-slow-pace-rate-hikes-inflation-grinch-loses-steam-2022-12-14/</a></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><em>Powell, speaking at a press conference following a Federal Open Market Committee meeting where the officials lifted their overnight target rate by half a percentage point, was asked whether the Fed might consider moving its 2% inflation target up to a higher level.</em></p><p><em><strong>"We're not considering that. We're not going to consider that. Under any circumstances," Powell said. "We're going to keep our inflation target at 2%. We're going to use our tools to get inflation back to 2%,"</strong> he said, although he allowed "there may be a longer-run project" that could take a fresh look at the central bank's inflation goal.</em> &#8212;- https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/powell-says-fed-will-not-change-2-inflation-goal-2022-12-14/</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vmE5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3c98f553-e082-43da-8dfe-061f315f3863_1074x545.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vmE5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3c98f553-e082-43da-8dfe-061f315f3863_1074x545.png 424w, 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But the fact that we decided to maintain the policy rate at this meeting doesn&#8217;t mean that we&#8217;ve decided that we have or have not at this time reached that&#8212;that stance of monetary policy that we&#8217;re seeking.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.federalreserve.gov/mediacenter/files/FOMCpresconf20230920.pdf">https://www.federalreserve.gov/mediacenter/files/FOMCpresconf20230920.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p>The consensus among those predicting a credit implosion in the near/medium-term future seems to be that Powell is determined to hike as much as politics and Mr.Market will allow / give him an excuse for until he can conjure a recession to bring down inflation; focusing on his legacy and determined to be remembered as a Paul Volcker, rather then an Arthur Burns, and fine-tuning the economy with interest rates while QT continues unabated in the background.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-70" href="#footnote-70" target="_self">70</a></p><p>At the time of my writing this, Howard Marks of Oaktree Capital recently published a memo &#8220;<em><a href="https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/further-thoughts-on-sea-change#">Further Thoughts on Sea Change</a></em>&#8221; where he predicts that the next decade is going to be characterized by an environment where&#8230;</p><blockquote><p><em>economic growth may be slower;</em></p><p><em>profit margins may erode;</em></p><p><em><strong>default rates may head higher</strong>;</em></p><p><em>asset appreciation may not be as reliable;</em></p><p><em>the <strong>cost of borrowing won&#8217;t trend downward consistently</strong> (though interest rates raised to fight inflation likely will be permitted to recede somewhat once inflation eases);</em></p><p><em>investor <strong>psychology may not be as uniformly positive</strong>; and</em></p><p><em>businesses may <strong>not find it as easy to obtain financing</strong>.</em></p></blockquote><p>We see less optimism among participants and less certainty around the availability of credit; sounds like a very favorable environment for a business like CRMZ&#8217;s.  </p><p>Marks also notes that we may be moving to an era of fiscal, rather than monetary &#8220;excess&#8221;. A recent study on businesses&#8217; use of trade credit in response to the government interventions related to the 2020 pandemic found that &#8220;<em>overall, the monetary interventions are associated with lower levels of trade credit, while fiscal interventions increase the use of trade credit.</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-71" href="#footnote-71" target="_self">71</a></p><h3>Deglobalization</h3><p>CRMZ may also be an asset-light beneficiary of the continuing supply-chain straining, grayzone warfare, deglobalization trend.</p><p>Direct from the 2022 10K: &#8220;<em>The Company expects the driving forces for adoption of its new SupplyChainMonitor product are the material shifts away from globalization, offshoring, and logistical complexity mandated to support &#8220;just-in-time&#8221; inventory models due to geopolitical and macroeconomic pressures. As businesses look to &#8220;nearshore,&#8221; &#8220;friendshore,&#8221; and relocate supply hubs away from regions with national security or concentration concerns, they will need extensive data on alternative suppliers and the financial stability of those alternatives.</em>&#8221;</p><p>This is not a novel thesis and seems to be common among many inflationistas. </p><div id="youtube2-0MCfZCeO8Ac" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;0MCfZCeO8Ac&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/0MCfZCeO8Ac?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>More on this idea, I think, is best articulated by Zoltan Poszar. I&#8217;ve condensed some of his writings on the topic here:</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;e7192c4a-1963-4e41-b109-91788c4f4dd9&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;So, I just finished reading Zoltan Pozsar&#8217;s Bretton Woods 3.0 (BW3) follow-on articles &#8220;Money, Commodities, and Bretton Woods 3&#8221; (MC&amp;BW3) as well as &#8220;War and Industrial Policy&#8221; (W&amp;IP) and &#8212; while I have a few questions about the ultimate conclusions &#8212; wanted to make some quick notes&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;When prices get \&quot;real\&quot; and The Great Re-Everything'ing&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2022-09-24T13:38:13.907Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/h_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff499a7be-75b5-4358-a283-d8127f920add_700x419.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/when-prices-get-real-and-the-great&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:73665699,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><h3>Recession</h3><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>We would tell you that a recession is almost as likely as very slow growth, so that&#8217;s a fact</strong>. I think that is partly because of us having raised rates quite a bit, but this is what it takes to get inflation down.</em>&#8221; &#8212;-Federal Reserve chair Jerome Powell (in what he had believed to be a private call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy which was later revealed to be a deepfake of the Ukrainian President fabricated by Russian hackers)</p></blockquote><p>In January 2023, Russian pranksters Vladimir Krasnov and Alexei Stolyarov, known as Vovan and Lexus, tricked Federal Reserve Chair Jerome H. Powell into an extended phone call by posing as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The pranksters shared a video call with Powell on Russian television, which was later posted on social media. The video appears to show Powell discussing the economic impact of interest rate hikes and admitting that a US recession is likely. A Fed spokesperson said that &#8220;<em>[t]he video appears to have been edited and I cannot confirm it is accurate. The matter has been referred to appropriate law enforcement, and out of respect for their efforts, we won't be commenting further</em>&#8221;. While that certainly <em>is a</em> statement, what <em>it isn&#8217;t</em> is any categorical denial of Powell&#8217;s claims of a likely recession in the video.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-72" href="#footnote-72" target="_self">72</a></p><p>Of course, many did not need to get this info pranked from Powell on a Zoom call to be concerned about the present state of the economy nor about the effect that interest rates are having on such.</p><p>If CRMZ&#8217;s own FRISK score for the aggregate US economy is to be believed, the economy is approaching a level of stress equivalent to that of the COVID19 panic.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pUgO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97324071-cf4a-41f8-8bd6-58801ded9634_883x860.png" 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The Company has not repurchased any shares under this program.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- CRMZ&#8217;s 2022 10K</p></blockquote><p>&#8230; Note that, as I write this, CRMZ&#8217;s market cap is around $27MM, so this buyback program at current prices would be able to purchase 3.7% of total shares outstanding, though I&#8217;m not sure how they plan on doing this given how illiquid the stock is &#8212;my little limit orders have had to wait days or weeks to get filled over time as I&#8217;ve been averaging into the stock. I&#8217;d expect this to act more like a floor or safety net to CRMZ&#8217;s stock price rather than a tailwind; tracking any reduction in share count in the company&#8217;s 10Qs could be a useful way to determine if one should nibble at the stock alongside the company themselves.</p><div><hr></div><h1>Risks</h1><p>The most obvious risk IMO is highlighted by the fact that, as I write this, the Fed Funds Rate is around 5.33%. Referring back to the simple DCF model for CRMZ and the comment I made about a fair value of $3.07 (at a 10yr FCF growth rate of 10%), it can be seen that the IRR of your investment over any period beyond 4yrs in such a scenario is less than the much safer return you could get from simply investing that same capital in money market funds. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTif!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc156bf54-940c-4123-a68d-ca3371db5da8_1075x510.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gTif!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc156bf54-940c-4123-a68d-ca3371db5da8_1075x510.png 424w, 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While rising interest rates are causing people all across the risk curve to rethink their allocations, rising interest rates may be particularly relevant to CRMZ as an investment. MMFs are more liquid, produce a similar IRR (in this particular conservative case), and (like CRMZ) act like a volatility hedge &#8212;that cash can be deployed opportunistically when large bouts of uncertainty hit the markets.</p><p>You&#8217;d need a ~20% FCF growth rate for 10yrs (for a fair value price of $5.31) to get a 10% IRR. That is, the next 10yrs of FCF growth are going to have to look like the aggregate past 3yrs; CRMZ should hope that Howard Marks is right and we are indeed entering a sea-change period where certainty, financing, and friendly credit terms (with associated lax scrutiny of counterparties) will be in short supply.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-73" href="#footnote-73" target="_self">73</a></p><p>.</p><p>CRMZ seems to have a lack of cost control within the organization. As a result, the company has struggled to translate its consistent top-line growth into sustainable bottom-line profits. The inability to rein in SG&amp;A expenses has been a persistent suppressor of the company&#8217;s profitability and hindered its ability to scale and to generate stable and predictable earnings and free cash flow.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bFMk!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e5bac36-0f7c-47af-abfc-cf201c20470a_1576x414.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bFMk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9e5bac36-0f7c-47af-abfc-cf201c20470a_1576x414.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The company was (re)founded in 1999 (with TIKR data available to me starting in 2002) and in all those years their earnings and CFFO seem to have no consistent growth, but rather follow a cyclical pattern of rising in the years during and after financial crises before slowly falling in years later &#8212;granted we&#8217;ve only really had two major financial crises since 2002, but that&#8217;s the pattern I see and it makes sense relative to the type of product CRMZ has historically offered. </p><p>Perhaps the SCM product can grow and become a counterbalancing source of profits for times of lower economic stress, but having only just launched SCM in 2Q2022 it&#8217;s still too soon to tell if this is working and the company does not break out subscriptions by product in their reports.</p><p>I suppose we&#8217;ll see what Michael Flum&#8217;s technology interventions look like in terms of taking load off of the company&#8217;s marketing and commissioning expenses. We can likely expect a more pronounced focus on this strategy going forward now that he&#8217;s CEO.</p><p>One wonders why the business seems to require so much marketing spend and how well the business might do (or not do) if it it ever had generate growth organically, on the merits of the product alone. </p><p>.</p><p>Economic strain can go too far; you can&#8217;t sell Carfax reports if everyone&#8217;s cars have already driven them off a cliff and it&#8217;s debatable how good for business an actual apocalypse would be for proprietors of prepper manuals. As with many other businesses, the strength of CRMZ&#8217;s business &#8212;even in the &#8220;best&#8221; of times (ie. times of heightened economic uncertainty, in CRMZ&#8217;s case)&#8212; is going to depend on the solvency of their customers and the value they attribute to the product (the latter of which should be quite high in an environment of uncertainty, while the former may come into question). </p><p>Of course, the company has had some of their best years of operating cash flows in the periods following the 2008 GFC, the 2014 oil bust, and the global economic shutdown of the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, so clearly business in the US still finds a way to muddle along in the aggregate and pay CRMZ even in the worst of times, the immediate after shocks of which have historically been tailwinds for the company. </p><p>By a less drastic token, one might wonder how CRMZ plans to balance it&#8217;s goal of being the &#8220;lowest cost provider&#8221; in an era of persistent and/or rising inflation. If inflation rises by 10% in a year, is CRMZ going to raise their prices? Would clients accept that?</p><p>.</p><p>Information risk: Unlike many other SaaS businesses, they do not publish key performance indicators in their annual reports (sometimes called &#8220;<em>key business metrics</em>&#8221; or &#8220;<em>key performance measures</em>&#8221; in DNB&#8217;s own reporting). Eg. I&#8217;ve seen SaaS businesses break out their monthly ARPU and total client numbers and DNB themselves break out revenue between their <em>Finance &amp; Risk</em> vs <em>Sales &amp; Marketing</em> segments &#8212;CRMZ had the opportunity to do this in 2022 for SCM, but didn&#8217;t (it&#8217;s not like they didn&#8217;t have time to prepare as SCM was launched early in 2022 and had been in development since 2019).</p><p>.</p><p>The stock is very illiquid. Unless they reinstate the dividend or otherwise return capital to shareholders via buybacks, if the SupplyChainMonitor business fails to gain traction and the CreditRiskMonitor side fails to attract and retain new clients, you&#8217;ve locked your money into a security that could really just end up languishing.</p><p>Given the Flums&#8217; large stake in the business and the principles that Flum Sr. has espoused and historically run his business in accordance with, I&#8217;m not too afraid of management standing idly by and doing nothing in the case of the above scenarios. At the very least, we might then expect a return of the annual dividend.</p><p>.</p><p>In all the podcast interviews I&#8217;ve seen with the Flums, they claim to be non-promotional and proudly note that they have no IR department; I find the medium over which these claims are being made to be a bit ironic. I wonder why they are suddenly going out and talking about their company to investors? Could it have anything to do with Michael Flum&#8217;s appointment as CEO in early 2023 and the tranche of stock option grants that he received while SCM was being developed?<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-74" href="#footnote-74" target="_self">74</a> (<em>I hope that is not in any way influencing the company&#8217;s decision to retain cash as USTs (and thus increase book value of the stock) rather than re-starting the dividend</em>). I also find it dissonant to claims of being &#8220;non-promotional&#8221; that the company&#8217;s website masthead prominently promotes the fact that CRMZ was named among the 2023 OTCQX &#8220;<em>Best 50</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-75" href="#footnote-75" target="_self">75</a> &#8212;a metric based purely on stock price and trading volumes. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aW9g!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91c588db-4337-4cb4-8b20-a5dd23542ec5_922x247.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aW9g!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91c588db-4337-4cb4-8b20-a5dd23542ec5_922x247.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aW9g!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91c588db-4337-4cb4-8b20-a5dd23542ec5_922x247.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aW9g!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91c588db-4337-4cb4-8b20-a5dd23542ec5_922x247.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aW9g!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91c588db-4337-4cb4-8b20-a5dd23542ec5_922x247.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aW9g!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91c588db-4337-4cb4-8b20-a5dd23542ec5_922x247.png" width="922" height="247" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/91c588db-4337-4cb4-8b20-a5dd23542ec5_922x247.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:247,&quot;width&quot;:922,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:33289,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aW9g!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91c588db-4337-4cb4-8b20-a5dd23542ec5_922x247.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aW9g!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91c588db-4337-4cb4-8b20-a5dd23542ec5_922x247.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aW9g!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91c588db-4337-4cb4-8b20-a5dd23542ec5_922x247.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!aW9g!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91c588db-4337-4cb4-8b20-a5dd23542ec5_922x247.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>&#8230; The company website also includes a Shareholder Information section that displays &#8220;Third-Party Research&#8221; &#8212;all of which happen to look largely positive on the stock.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BJmj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbea38a-d01e-4104-a169-7357aa5eab77_1329x634.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BJmj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbea38a-d01e-4104-a169-7357aa5eab77_1329x634.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BJmj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbea38a-d01e-4104-a169-7357aa5eab77_1329x634.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BJmj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbea38a-d01e-4104-a169-7357aa5eab77_1329x634.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BJmj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbea38a-d01e-4104-a169-7357aa5eab77_1329x634.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BJmj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbea38a-d01e-4104-a169-7357aa5eab77_1329x634.png" width="1329" height="634" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0cbea38a-d01e-4104-a169-7357aa5eab77_1329x634.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:634,&quot;width&quot;:1329,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:180692,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BJmj!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbea38a-d01e-4104-a169-7357aa5eab77_1329x634.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BJmj!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbea38a-d01e-4104-a169-7357aa5eab77_1329x634.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BJmj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbea38a-d01e-4104-a169-7357aa5eab77_1329x634.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BJmj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0cbea38a-d01e-4104-a169-7357aa5eab77_1329x634.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In this context, the fact that CRMZ has no IR and provides no email address for shareholders to communicate with the company makes me wonder if management is really &#8220;non-promotional&#8221; or if they are simply non-communicative or non-accessible. Furthermore, the company does not do annual earnings calls where shareholders can submit or ask questions.</p><p>As a small example (and a bit of a test) of this inaccessibility, I sent a physical written letter addressed to Chairman Jerome Flum using the the CreditRiskMonitor.com Inc. mailing address at the bottom the Shareholder Information page of their website asking for a bit of color on their capital allocation philosophy going forward given their recent buying of short-term USTs in 2022, launch of SCM, pausing of the dividend, and non-utilization of their buyback program that was authorized in 2022. This included a pre-paid return envelope as well as my own email address for any response. This letter was delivered on Sept 3 and I&#8217;ve yet to get a response from management or any other representative of the company. </p><p>For a large company, this lack of response to a singular small shareholder like myself would be extremely understandable, but for a $30MM company like CRMZ, I find this to actually be <em>ab</em>normal &#8212;I can&#8217;t recall not getting <em>some</em> kind of response to a communication I&#8217;ve sent to any other company with a sub-$300MM marketcap, be it from a CEO, CFO, CCO, VP, or some other representative.</p><p>This really sends a mixed message, especially given the polish of their Shareholder Information page. If they had no earnings calls, no response to shareholders from management, and an <em>ugly</em> website, then I think the tea leaves would read a bit clearer; consider the total of 129 lines of HTML that make up the Berkshire Hathaway homepage or the 91 lines that make up FRMO Corp&#8217;s homepage vs the 1846 lines that make of CRMZ&#8217;s Shareholder Info page. </p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/resources/blog-posts/rising-interest-rates-increasingly-threaten-zombies-companies-globally">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/resources/blog-posts/rising-interest-rates-increasingly-threaten-zombies-companies-globally</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/us-zombie-firms-how-many-and-how-consequential-20210730.html">https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/us-zombie-firms-how-many-and-how-consequential-20210730.html</a> </p><p><a href="https://hbr.org/2022/09/can-zombie-firms-survive-rising-interest-rates">https://hbr.org/2022/09/can-zombie-firms-survive-rising-interest-rates</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.kearney.com/service/transactions-transformations/article/dawn-of-the-debt">https://www.kearney.com/service/transactions-transformations/article/dawn-of-the-debt</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Of course, the fact that I don&#8217;t own much at present doesn&#8217;t mean that I&#8217;m not glad to own the small amount that I do have.</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;ed1df59b-e4d3-47af-a1dd-40540e3bafdd&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;For several years I lived on a steep hillside in a decrepit summer cottage that had what a real estate agent called &#8220;charm.&#8221; Which meant it was a shack with a view. 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Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I assume it was Flum Partners, but I guess it&#8217;s possible that he may be referring to some other fund he may have worked at prior, given that the 50yr figure he cites in the preceeding quote does not line up with the 1972 - 1998 time period that Flum Partners was managing money for outside LPs.</p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=1084592">https://www.sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=1084592</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>If it&#8217;s any indication of his investing accumen, Flum&#8217;s sons Michael and Joshua attended Rice University and Yale, respectively.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/resources/data/public-filings/sec-10-ksb">https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/resources/data/public-filings/sec-10-ksb</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000095011696000374/0000950116-96-000374-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000095011696000374/0000950116-96-000374-index.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/0001010288-99-000017.txt">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/0001010288-99-000017.txt</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000101028897000005/0001010288-97-000005-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000101028897000005/0001010288-97-000005-index.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Beyond_Pritikin/ekwMuJs7qbQC?hl=en&amp;gbpv=0">https://www.google.com/books/edition/Beyond_Pritikin/ekwMuJs7qbQC?hl=en&amp;gbpv=0</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The time of the re-founding of the company in 1998 is when Flum closed his hedge fund and I recall mention in the New Generation Foods filings around this time of him returning capital to his limited partners, but can&#8217;t find the exact quote I&#8217;m thinking of right now, so I could be wrong here.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000101028898000009/0001010288-98-000009-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000101028898000009/0001010288-98-000009-index.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000089155400001241/0000891554-00-001241-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000089155400001241/0000891554-00-001241-index.html</a> (filed May 8, 2000)</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>oldPrice x oldSO = oldMarketcap = newMarketcap = newPrice x newSO</p><p>==&gt; newPrice = oldPrice x (oldSO / newSO) </p><p>= price at which new shares get you a similar per share percentage stake in the business.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>See Q3 10QSB filings from 2000 to 2007, here&#8230;</p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000089155400002327/0000891554-00-002327-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000089155400002327/0000891554-00-002327-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000089155401506271/0000891554-01-506271-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000089155401506271/0000891554-01-506271-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923202002719/0001169232-02-002719-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923202002719/0001169232-02-002719-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923203006673/0001169232-03-006673-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923203006673/0001169232-03-006673-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923204005718/0001169232-04-005718-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923204005718/0001169232-04-005718-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923205005362/0001169232-05-005362-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923205005362/0001169232-05-005362-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923206004474/0001169232-06-004474-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923206004474/0001169232-06-004474-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923207004224/0001169232-07-004224-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923207004224/0001169232-07-004224-index.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.ceocfointerviews.com/creditriskmonitor22.html">https://www.ceocfointerviews.com/creditriskmonitor22.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>CRMZ&#8217;s and Flum Sr.&#8217;s apparent allergy to any amount of debt is a bit debatable as a &#8220;pillar of success&#8221;, IMO &#8212;especially given the zero-bound nature of nominal rates during the last decade that CRMZ was operating in. </p><p>I&#8217;ve seen other family owned businesses operating in a similar way that is much more risk averse than what may be warrented, likely operating under the idea that they don&#8217;t want to be the one to &#8216;lose the family business&#8217;. The family controlled oil royalty owner, Black Stone Minerals, sold significant amounts of royalty properties on the Permian in 2020 in order to pay down their debts during the COVID lockdowns &#8212;those same lands today (with WTI oil priced in the $90/bbl range) would likely be worth multiples of what they sold for during the 2020 panic (when oil was in the $20-$30 range) (<a href="https://investor.blackstoneminerals.com/news-releases/news-release-details/black-stone-minerals-lp-announces-asset-sales-totaling-155">https://investor.blackstoneminerals.com/news-releases/news-release-details/black-stone-minerals-lp-announces-asset-sales-totaling-155</a>; <a href="https://www.hartenergy.com/news/black-stone-minerals-completes-permian-basin-asset-sales-188851">https://www.hartenergy.com/news/black-stone-minerals-completes-permian-basin-asset-sales-188851</a>).</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Aside from his education in engineering and business, Michael Flum also has a BA in Religious Studies from Rice University which I thought was interesting. He was also a project manager at midstream oil and gas companies before joining CRMZ and, IMO, these businesses are not very disimilar from data engineering which is likely a lot closer to the primary operations at CRMZ.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Though is it possible that, by definition, raw materials reliably get to their destinations during &#8220;good times&#8221;, thus obviating the need for SCM analytics in such environments and just further adding to CRMZ&#8217;s counter-cyclicality rather than acyclicality?</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.highradius.com/resources/Blog/what-is-trade-credit/">https://www.highradius.com/resources/Blog/what-is-trade-credit/</a></p><p><a href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/accounting/what-is-trade-credit/">https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/accounting/what-is-trade-credit/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-20" href="#footnote-anchor-20" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">20</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/trade-credit.asp">https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/trade-credit.asp</a></p><p><a href="https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/coher_e/challenges_e.htm">https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/coher_e/challenges_e.htm</a></p><p><a href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/accounting/what-is-trade-credit/">https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/accounting/what-is-trade-credit/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8557253/">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8557253/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-21" href="#footnote-anchor-21" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">21</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.bis.org/publ/bisbull24.pdf">https://www.bis.org/publ/bisbull24.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-22" href="#footnote-anchor-22" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">22</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note that the LHS axis in the leftmost chart is just for the &#8220;loans&#8221; value as it is larger than the rest of the trade financing values.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-23" href="#footnote-anchor-23" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">23</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note that this trade credit as a percent of GDP is an estimate. Although there is no comprehensive source for measuring the size and composition of the trade finance market, the few estimates that exist (which include that from the BIS that the chart I include is from) evaluate the size of bank-guaranteed trade finance to account for ten to thirty percent, while the remainder (70 to 90 percent) is organized by inter-firm trade credits through open account trading. In open account trading, the buyer is directly responsible for meeting the payment obligation in relation to the underlying transaction. </p><p><a href="https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/bop/2017/pdf/17-21.pdf">https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/bop/2017/pdf/17-21.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-24" href="#footnote-anchor-24" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">24</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.allianz-trade.com/en_US/insights/advantages-of-trade-credit.html">https://www.allianz-trade.com/en_US/insights/advantages-of-trade-credit.html</a></p><p><a href="https://www.allianz-trade.com/en_US/insights/determining-customer-creditworthiness.html">https://www.allianz-trade.com/en_US/insights/determining-customer-creditworthiness.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-25" href="#footnote-anchor-25" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">25</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I&#8217;ve seen several distinguishing definitions of &#8220;trade recivables&#8221; and &#8220;accounts recivables&#8221; while looking into this company; some sources define them to be interchangable, while others appear to take AR to be a broader concept that includes not only credit sales related to the core business but also any other amounts owed to the company by various parties. Going forward I use the terms <em>trade credit</em> and <em>trade recivables</em> to refer to the extension of accounts receivable credit to a customer making a purchase, which is how CRMZ uses the terms.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-26" href="#footnote-anchor-26" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">26</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1115222/000111522218000004/0001115222-18-000004-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1115222/000111522218000004/0001115222-18-000004-index.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-27" href="#footnote-anchor-27" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">27</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/why-creditriskmonitor/coverage">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/why-creditriskmonitor/coverage</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-28" href="#footnote-anchor-28" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">28</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>What percent of the some odd 6 million businesses in just the US is this? Based on their website, I think the number is 4MM. </p><p><a href="https://www.certifiedeo.com/blog-posts/how-many-businesses-are-there-in-america-and-what-does-it-mean-for-employee-ownership">https://www.certifiedeo.com/blog-posts/how-many-businesses-are-there-in-america-and-what-does-it-mean-for-employee-ownership</a></p><p><a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/why-creditriskmonitor/industry-leading-analytics#PAYCE">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/why-creditriskmonitor/industry-leading-analytics#PAYCE</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-29" href="#footnote-anchor-29" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">29</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/sites/default/files/2020-03/FRISK_Score_White_Paper_2.pdf">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/sites/default/files/2020-03/FRISK_Score_White_Paper_2.pdf</a></p><p><a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/sites/default/files/2020-01/CreditRiskMonitor_PAYCE_score_White_Paper_Revised.pdf">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/sites/default/files/2020-01/CreditRiskMonitor_PAYCE_score_White_Paper_Revised.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-30" href="#footnote-anchor-30" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">30</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/sites/default/files/2020-03/FRISK_Score_White_Paper_2.pdf">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/sites/default/files/2020-03/FRISK_Score_White_Paper_2.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-31" href="#footnote-anchor-31" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">31</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2000/08/24/00-21156/selective-disclosure-and-insider-trading">https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2000/08/24/00-21156/selective-disclosure-and-insider-trading</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-32" href="#footnote-anchor-32" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">32</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/resources/bankruptcy-case-studies/kona-grill-inc">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/resources/bankruptcy-case-studies/kona-grill-inc</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-33" href="#footnote-anchor-33" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">33</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/sites/default/files/2020-03/FRISK_Score_White_Paper_2.pdf">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/sites/default/files/2020-03/FRISK_Score_White_Paper_2.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-34" href="#footnote-anchor-34" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">34</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/sites/default/files/2020-01/CreditRiskMonitor_PAYCE_score_White_Paper_Revised.pdf">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/sites/default/files/2020-01/CreditRiskMonitor_PAYCE_score_White_Paper_Revised.pdf</a>]</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-35" href="#footnote-anchor-35" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">35</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.nav.com/business-credit-scores/dun-bradstreet-paydex/">https://www.nav.com/business-credit-scores/dun-bradstreet-paydex/</a>; <a href="https://www.creditsuite.com/blog/dun-bradstreet-business-credit-reports/">https://www.creditsuite.com/blog/dun-bradstreet-business-credit-reports/</a>; <a href="https://www.dnb.com/resources/how-to-read-dun-and-bradstreet-business-credit-reports.html">https://www.dnb.com/resources/how-to-read-dun-and-bradstreet-business-credit-reports.html</a>; <a href="https://www.dnb.com/resources/what-is-a-trade-reference-impact-credit-scores.html">https://www.dnb.com/resources/what-is-a-trade-reference-impact-credit-scores.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-36" href="#footnote-anchor-36" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">36</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>More info on trade data and it&#8217;s usefulness can be found here: <a href="https://www.moodysanalytics.com/solutions-overview/data/trade-accounts-receivables-data">https://www.moodysanalytics.com/solutions-overview/data/trade-accounts-receivables-data</a>; <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/5-reasons-share-your-trade-payment-data-mark-edwards">https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/5-reasons-share-your-trade-payment-data-mark-edwards</a>]</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-37" href="#footnote-anchor-37" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">37</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/why-creditriskmonitor/industry-leading-analytics">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/why-creditriskmonitor/industry-leading-analytics</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-38" href="#footnote-anchor-38" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">38</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/sites/default/files/2020-01/CreditRiskMonitor_PAYCE_score_White_Paper_Revised.pdf">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/sites/default/files/2020-01/CreditRiskMonitor_PAYCE_score_White_Paper_Revised.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-39" href="#footnote-anchor-39" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">39</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/sites/default/files/2020-03/FRISK_Score_White_Paper_2.pdf">https://www.creditriskmonitor.com/sites/default/files/2020-03/FRISK_Score_White_Paper_2.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-40" href="#footnote-anchor-40" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">40</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>That number of recorded bankrupcies in their data is just a portion of the total bankrupcies that were filed in just the period between 2010-2013.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZGo-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64bf1555-d88e-48e9-95dc-13ea019eb25d_1200x1200.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZGo-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64bf1555-d88e-48e9-95dc-13ea019eb25d_1200x1200.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZGo-!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F64bf1555-d88e-48e9-95dc-13ea019eb25d_1200x1200.jpeg 848w, 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-41" href="#footnote-anchor-41" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">41</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sic_code.asp">https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sic_code.asp</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-42" href="#footnote-anchor-42" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">42</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://youtu.be/7UEWkdepMNs">Planet Microcap interview</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-43" href="#footnote-anchor-43" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">43</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Note that TIKR uses EBIT vs NOPAT, but the numbers are very similar.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-44" href="#footnote-anchor-44" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">44</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923204002964/0001169232-04-002964-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923204002964/0001169232-04-002964-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923204004125/0001169232-04-004125-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923204004125/0001169232-04-004125-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923204005718/0001169232-04-005718-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923204005718/0001169232-04-005718-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923205002725/0001169232-05-002725-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923205002725/0001169232-05-002725-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923205004130/0001169232-05-004130-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923205004130/0001169232-05-004130-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923205005362/0001169232-05-005362-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000116923205005362/0001169232-05-005362-index.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-45" href="#footnote-anchor-45" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">45</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-4/pdf/the-2014-plunge-in-import-petroleum-prices-what-happened.pdf">https://www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-4/pdf/the-2014-plunge-in-import-petroleum-prices-what-happened.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-46" href="#footnote-anchor-46" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">46</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.isesassociation.com/the-strategic-and-economic-role-of-greek-shipping/">https://www.isesassociation.com/the-strategic-and-economic-role-of-greek-shipping/</a>; <a href="https://www.cfr.org/timeline/greeces-debt-crisis-timeline#">https://www.cfr.org/timeline/greeces-debt-crisis-timeline#</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-47" href="#footnote-anchor-47" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">47</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Michael Maouboussin argues that the justification for capitalizing SG&amp;A expenses lies in the recognition of certain expenses as investments that contribute to the future growth and value creation of a company. The main idea is to treat certain intangible investments in the same way as tangible investments, which are capitalized and amortized over their useful lives. Capitalizing portions of SG&amp;A (and near 100% of R&amp;D) aims to provide a more accurate representation of a company's earnings and investment outlays, as the shift from tangible to intangible investments has made traditional valuation methods less useful in modern times.</p><p><a href="https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_intangiblesandearnings_us.pdf">https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_intangiblesandearnings_us.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-48" href="#footnote-anchor-48" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">48</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Google is creating services for supply chain management here: <a href="https://cloud.google.com/solutions/supply-chain-logistics#section-1">https://cloud.google.com/solutions/supply-chain-logistics#section-1</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-49" href="#footnote-anchor-49" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">49</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://time.com/6305383/meta-threads-failing/">https://time.com/6305383/meta-threads-failing/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-50" href="#footnote-anchor-50" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">50</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The latter two being mentioned as D&amp;B&#8217;s competition in the SMB market in their 10K; CRMZ was noticably absent</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-51" href="#footnote-anchor-51" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">51</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>********** UPDATE 20240523 **********</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-52" href="#footnote-anchor-52" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">52</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000114036115013290/0001140361-15-013290-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000114036115013290/0001140361-15-013290-index.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-53" href="#footnote-anchor-53" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">53</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzYjUvdDD_o">Geoinvesting interview</a> (timestamp 00:18:56)</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-54" href="#footnote-anchor-54" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">54</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>A 2010 study found that small firms are more likely to rely on trade credit, especially during recessions, while large firms tend to use more bank loans, thus, reducing the contraction of activity of small firms in difficult times. (However, this is from 10 years ago and a based on a totally different country than CRMZ&#8217;s primary operations, so I&#8217;m not sure how much weight I&#8217;d give this data point beyond pointing it out as something of interest).</p><p> <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/41739210">https://www.jstor.org/stable/41739210</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-55" href="#footnote-anchor-55" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">55</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.creditkarma.com/advice/i/what-are-the-business-credit-bureaus">https://www.creditkarma.com/advice/i/what-are-the-business-credit-bureaus</a>; <a href="https://paymentcloudinc.com/blog/business-credit-bureaus/">https://paymentcloudinc.com/blog/business-credit-bureaus/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-56" href="#footnote-anchor-56" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">56</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>More information on these business credit reporting bureaus can be seen summariezed here: <a href="https://www.creditkarma.com/advice/i/what-are-the-business-credit-bureaus">https://www.creditkarma.com/advice/i/what-are-the-business-credit-bureaus</a>; <a href="https://paymentcloudinc.com/blog/business-credit-bureaus/">https://paymentcloudinc.com/blog/business-credit-bureaus/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-57" href="#footnote-anchor-57" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">57</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;<em>The Company has generated net operating loss (&#8220;NOL&#8221;) carryforwards for income tax purposes, which are available for carryforward against future taxable income. At December 31, 2009, the Company had Federal NOL carryforwards of approximately $3,798,000, which expire through 2026. [&#8230;] Prior to 2005 the Company had a history of losses. Although the Company was profitable for the 3 years ended December 31, 2008 the economic climate and the Company&#8217;s limited earnings history created uncertainty that the Company would continue to be profitable. This created the rebuttable presumption that a full valuation allowance was necessary for its net deferred tax assets. During 2009, with the benefit of improved results and another year of history, the Company determined that it was more likely than not that the deferred tax assets will be realized; and, accordingly, the valuation allowance was reversed in 2009.</em>&#8221;, per the 2009 10K; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000114036110013900/0001140361-10-013900-index.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000114036110013900/0001140361-10-013900-index.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-58" href="#footnote-anchor-58" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">58</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;<em>In accordance with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that was enacted on December 22, 2017 (&#8220;U.S. Tax Reform Act&#8221;), we have recorded a credit for income taxes of $220,954. The impact of the U.S. Tax Reform Act is primarily from revaluing our U.S. deferred tax assets and liabilities based on the rates at which they are expected to reverse in the future. For U.S. federal purposes the corporate statutory income tax rate was reduced from 35% to 21%, effective for our 2018 tax year. The provisional impact of the U.S. Tax Reform Act is our current best estimate based on the preliminary review of the new law and is subject to revision based on our existing accounting for income taxes policy as further information is gathered and interpretation and analysis of the tax legislation evolves. The Securities and Exchange Commission has issued rules allowing for a measurement period of up to one year after the enactment date of the U.S Tax Reform Act to finalize the recording of the related tax impacts. Any future changes to our provisional estimated impact of the U.S Tax Reform Act will be included as an adjustment to the provision for income taxes.</em>&#8221;, per the 2017 10K; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000114036118015124/0001140361-18-015124-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000114036118015124/0001140361-18-015124-index.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-59" href="#footnote-anchor-59" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">59</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I think TIKR is calculating the Effective Tax Rate value as:<br>-1 x (EBT incl. extra / Tax expense)<br>&#8230; and not expecting or accounting for positive tax expense values or negative earnings.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-60" href="#footnote-anchor-60" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">60</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/CreditRiskMonitor-Reviews-E12010.htm">https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/CreditRiskMonitor-Reviews-E12010.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-61" href="#footnote-anchor-61" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">61</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I say &#8216;normalized&#8217; as he received a bonus in 1994 in connection to New Generation Foods&#8217; asset sale to American Pacific in Oct 1993 that would otherwise skew this data</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-62" href="#footnote-anchor-62" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">62</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>You could argue that the fact that a companies feels they can and should do this signals a large opportunity set, a lot of value to capture, and network effects that necessitate moving fast in their domain.</p><p>Could we derive from Flum&#8217;s comments that such characteristics do not exist in CRMZ&#8217;s industry?</p><p>Point being, it really seems to me more that Flum is trying so sounds like an edgy &#8216;value guy&#8217; more than pointing out any kind of less defensible market irrationality here</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-63" href="#footnote-anchor-63" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">63</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Interesting video on this <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Lo0sZfdHE">here</a>.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-64" href="#footnote-anchor-64" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">64</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I first saw Goldstein appear in CRMZ&#8217;s Oct 22 2010 Def 14C Proxy with a beneficial ownership of 541,430 shares (6.84% of the company) via Santa Monica Partners, L.P. and Santa Monica Partners II, L.P. based on the information contained in a Schedule 13G filed November 5, 2009. [<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000114036110041920/0001140361-10-041920-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000114036110041920/0001140361-10-041920-index.html</a>]. </p><p>A later Schedule 13G/A beneficial ownership report for Feb 1 2019 has his share count raised by 28% to 693,744 [<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000090479319000004/crmz13gamendment8.txt">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315958/000090479319000004/crmz13gamendment8.txt</a>] and this is later upped slightly to 698644 in a ownership report for Jan 26 2023 [<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/904793/000090479323000002/0000904793-23-000002-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/904793/000090479323000002/0000904793-23-000002-index.html</a>], so he apparently didn&#8217;t have as much concern about the indefinite pause on CRMZ&#8217;s dividend as I do.</p><p>The earliest indication of Goldstein&#8217;s ownership I could find was in the November 5 2009 Schedule 13G filing, disclaiming ownership of 484,793 CRMZ shares [<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/904793/000090479309000002/0000904793-09-000002-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/904793/000090479309000002/0000904793-09-000002-index.html</a>; <a href="https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/?r=el#/q=%2522CREDITRISKMONITOR.COM%2520INC.%2522&amp;dateRange=all&amp;ciks=0000904793&amp;entityName=SANTA%2520MONICA%2520PARTNERS%2520LP%2520(CIK%25200000904793)">https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/?r=el#/q=%2522CREDITRISKMONITOR.COM%2520INC.%2522&amp;dateRange=all&amp;ciks=0000904793&amp;entityName=SANTA%2520MONICA%2520PARTNERS%2520LP%2520(CIK%25200000904793)</a>]. From this we know that the bulk of his buying for his total existing position would have to have taken place before this date. </p><p>TIKR doesn&#8217;t have it, but Google shows that CRMZ had wild price swings from 1995 to year end 2009; I wonder what the low, high, and mean where during that time, so we can combine this and Goldstein&#8217;s other Schedule 13 docs to get a sense of his weighted cost basis]</p><p>CRMZ&#8217;s share price was around $2.05 on Feb 1 2019, but it should be noted that a Schedule 13G/A is only filed once the filer exceeds 5% ownership, so Goldstein could have been acquiring shares at much different prices over the years; In the decade prior from 2009-2019, CRMZ&#8217;s stock price had a mean of ~$2.75, resting well below the $2 mark in the 8 years prior to the second half of 2009 and spiking up to $5 in the years following the 2008 GFC and the 2014 oil bust.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-65" href="#footnote-anchor-65" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">65</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>You can read an interesting 1995 interview with Goldstein here: <a href="https://irp.cdn-website.com/cfd0d660/files/uploaded/md-1995-03-08-i-never-heard-of-it.pdf">https://irp.cdn-website.com/cfd0d660/files/uploaded/md-1995-03-08-i-never-heard-of-it.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-66" href="#footnote-anchor-66" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">66</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>FYI, SMPLP&#8217;s <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/904793/000126056812000002/0001260568-12-000002-index.html">stake in FRMO Corp</a> would place it at around 20% of their public portfolio as reported in their 13F-HR forms.</p><p>(2769554 shares x $7.50 = $20771655 market value)</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-67" href="#footnote-anchor-67" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">67</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/divisions/investment/13ffaq#Question20:~:text=Q%3A%20What%20are%20form%20types%2013F%2DHR%20and%2013F%2DNT%20that%20are%20referred%20to%20in%20the%20EDGAR%20Filer%20Manual%3F%20What%20was%20Form%2013F%2DE%3F">https://www.sec.gov/divisions/investment/13ffaq#Question20:~:text=Q%3A%20What%20are%20form%20types%2013F%2DHR%20and%2013F%2DNT%20that%20are%20referred%20to%20in%20the%20EDGAR%20Filer%20Manual%3F%20What%20was%20Form%2013F%2DE%3F</a></p><p><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/GME/comments/n962oa/form_13fhr_is_more_than_just_an_information_table/">https://www.reddit.com/r/GME/comments/n962oa/form_13fhr_is_more_than_just_an_information_table/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-68" href="#footnote-anchor-68" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">68</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>If you dig into the reporting this site has on SMPLP&#8217;s ownership of CRMZ (<a href="https://fintel.io/so/us/crmz/santa-monica-partners">https://fintel.io/so/us/crmz/santa-monica-partners</a>) it appears that the LP sold all of it&#8217;s shares, but I think this is because the most recent SC 13G/A filing was accompanied by a cover letter that has the first sequence number of the set of documents in the filing with the actual amendment document being a PDF file in the second sequence position. I assume the method they Fintel site is using to grab the 13G data expects the actual SC 13G/A document to be in the 1st sequence position in a SC 13G/A filing or to be a .txt file or both (as has been the case for prior 13G submissions by SMPLP for their CRMZ position). The way the most recent 13G/A was filed by SMPLP appears to have been beyond the scope of what most SEC-filings-tracking websites expected to have to handle for such filings. </p><p> </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-69" href="#footnote-anchor-69" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">69</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>(0.75&#247;0.57)^(2019&#8722;2006)&#8722;1 = 0.0213</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-70" href="#footnote-anchor-70" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">70</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://wolfstreet.com/2023/10/05/fed-balance-sheet-qt-down-1-0-trillion-from-peak-to-7-96-trillion-lowest-since-june-2021-in-september-alone-146-billion/">https://wolfstreet.com/2023/10/05/fed-balance-sheet-qt-down-1-0-trillion-from-peak-to-7-96-trillion-lowest-since-june-2021-in-september-alone-146-billion/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-71" href="#footnote-anchor-71" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">71</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8557253/">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8557253/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-72" href="#footnote-anchor-72" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">72</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/04/27/russian-pranksters-posing-zelensky-trick-fed-chair-jerome-powell/">https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/04/27/russian-pranksters-posing-zelensky-trick-fed-chair-jerome-powell/</a>; <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/business-65414175">https://www.bbc.com/news/business-65414175</a>; <a href="https://nypost.com/2023/04/27/jerome-powell-tricked-by-fake-call-from-russia-pranksters/">https://nypost.com/2023/04/27/jerome-powell-tricked-by-fake-call-from-russia-pranksters/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-73" href="#footnote-anchor-73" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">73</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/sea-change">https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/sea-change</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-74" href="#footnote-anchor-74" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">74</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>50000 awarded in 2019, 25000 in 2020, and 30000 in 2022</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!--J7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdce2e1d8-721b-409a-8470-b05906f2cbb6_1203x326.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!--J7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdce2e1d8-721b-409a-8470-b05906f2cbb6_1203x326.png 424w, 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the system]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/frmo-frmo-corp-commentary-on-frmos</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/frmo-frmo-corp-commentary-on-frmos</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2023 20:54:29 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2072a40b-674f-4edd-8be8-307e83b07131_1152x672.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>********** <em>UPDATE 20231225: Some updated thoughts on the value of Winland Holdings (WELX) which is now at around $3.10/sh&#8230;</em></p><p><em>So let's say WELX has a total look-through ownership of 135BTC (75BTC on the B/S + the Mt.Gox claims that I assume is 60BTC) and that number is always slowly rising. At $45K <strong>market BTC price, that's $6.075MM</strong>; a bit less than 1/2 of WELX's $14.65MM marketcap (w/ $8.575MM remaining). Minus the <strong>~$800K in cash</strong>, we get $7.775MM. </em></p><p><em>We can then look at the total inventory of mining rigs they operate (<a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/385147/content">https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/385147/content</a>) [w/ current (replacement) costs from googling the various machines]: &#8220;Winland Mining is the Company&#8217;s cryptocurrency mining business and currently operates approximately 195 Bitmain S19 95 TH/S [$1,295.00], 29 Canaan Avalon Miner 1246 90 TH/S [$720.00], 32 Bitmain S19 XP (average 140 TH/S) [$3,499.00], and 50 Bitmain S19 XP 141 TH/S [$3,600.00] cryptocurrency miners.&#8221; <strong>This totals to: (195*$1,295.00) + (29*$720.00) + (32*$3,499.00) + (50*$3,600.00) = $565,373.00</strong>; there's other misc equipment, but relatively small BV amount. </em></p><p><em>One way to value BTC mining companies &#8212;as has Bregman in past HK commentaries&#8212; is as a multiple of BV. Say, because I like HK and Bregman as management, we <strong>assign a 4x P/BV to this part of the business, so the mining biz is valued at ($565,373.00 * 4 =) $2,261,492</strong>. This market multiple is likely going to be some kind of function of BTC&#8217;s price momentum, IMO; Riot Platforms Inc&#8217;s P/B multiple is presently around 2.6x. </em></p><p><em>So w/ operating rigs, BTC, and cash, now we have $2.262MM + $6.075MM + $0.800MM = $9.137MM; ($14.65MM-$9.137MM=)$5.513MM of WELX's marketcap remaining unaccounted for. </em></p><p><em><strong>Assuming Winland Electronics is the only part of the biz that actually brings in USD</strong> (everything else being mining and distressed crypto debt/claims investing), we'd have to see if that is worth the remaining ~$5.5MM in marketcap. </em></p><p><em><strong>Revenue run-rate using last Q filing is ($1.157MM * 4 =) $4.628MM, so one would have to assign something like a (5.5/4.6~=) 1.2x P/S on the server/equipment monitoring business</strong>. Not too crazy IMO. </em></p><p><em>Let's say I give sales a 2x because, again, I like HK and Bregman as mgmt, so that would put <strong>total value of WELX's ongoing mining ops biz, BTC, cash, and Winland Electronics segment at: $2.262MM + $6.075MM + $0.800MM + ($4.628MM * 2) = $18.393MM; a (18.393/14.65&#8722;1=) 26% upside to current marketcap</strong>. </em></p><p><em>This amounts to a pretty good margin of safety for the kind of mgmt one is buying into, IMO. Everything else is just going to have to come from the optionality of BTC price appreciation (though one could argue that that is already be baked into the market BTC price to a degree). </em></p><p><em>Looking at EPS from the P&amp;S business, rather than the revenue, closes this discount quite a bit, but still results in a slight margin of safety:</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XWOd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f875372-270e-44bd-af36-ab9d8074ceb0_1065x587.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XWOd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f875372-270e-44bd-af36-ab9d8074ceb0_1065x587.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XWOd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f875372-270e-44bd-af36-ab9d8074ceb0_1065x587.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XWOd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f875372-270e-44bd-af36-ab9d8074ceb0_1065x587.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XWOd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f875372-270e-44bd-af36-ab9d8074ceb0_1065x587.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XWOd!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f875372-270e-44bd-af36-ab9d8074ceb0_1065x587.png" width="840" height="462.98591549295776" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5f875372-270e-44bd-af36-ab9d8074ceb0_1065x587.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:587,&quot;width&quot;:1065,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:840,&quot;bytes&quot;:146819,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XWOd!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f875372-270e-44bd-af36-ab9d8074ceb0_1065x587.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XWOd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f875372-270e-44bd-af36-ab9d8074ceb0_1065x587.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XWOd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f875372-270e-44bd-af36-ab9d8074ceb0_1065x587.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XWOd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5f875372-270e-44bd-af36-ab9d8074ceb0_1065x587.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>Thoughts on this POV? Left a lot of my math in so that anyone check it in case I messed something up (I'm typing this as Christmas music et al is going on right outside the room I'm in). Anyone know who Winland&#8217;s &#8220;major customers&#8221; A and B are?</em></p><p><em>While WELX provides their mining rig inventory (from which we can look at the hashrate and consumption of each rig type and derive their total hashrate and power consumption (assuming their rigs are run 24/7 in normal power mode)), we do not know their power costs, so it&#8217;s hard to project what their current mining profitability and BTC accumulation is going to be.</em></p><p>**********</p><p>Trigger warning to &#8220;value investors&#8221; (and my girlfriend): This post is going to be about Bitcoin.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!37b1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23e08e83-e048-4f6d-a595-dbffb70bf03c_1098x238.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!37b1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23e08e83-e048-4f6d-a595-dbffb70bf03c_1098x238.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!37b1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23e08e83-e048-4f6d-a595-dbffb70bf03c_1098x238.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!37b1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23e08e83-e048-4f6d-a595-dbffb70bf03c_1098x238.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!37b1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23e08e83-e048-4f6d-a595-dbffb70bf03c_1098x238.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!37b1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23e08e83-e048-4f6d-a595-dbffb70bf03c_1098x238.png" width="1098" height="238" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/23e08e83-e048-4f6d-a595-dbffb70bf03c_1098x238.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:238,&quot;width&quot;:1098,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:47958,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!37b1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23e08e83-e048-4f6d-a595-dbffb70bf03c_1098x238.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!37b1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23e08e83-e048-4f6d-a595-dbffb70bf03c_1098x238.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!37b1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23e08e83-e048-4f6d-a595-dbffb70bf03c_1098x238.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!37b1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F23e08e83-e048-4f6d-a595-dbffb70bf03c_1098x238.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;When David and Tom would start talking about <a href="https://www.binance.com/en/price/bitcoin">Bitcoin</a> or something, <strong>Greta and I would be like, &#8216;You&#8217;re being such Kens!&#8217;&#8221; said Robbie, adding she felt the same when the pair chatted about golf.</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Ken, of course, is Barbie&#8217;s longtime boyfriend who historically has offered little depth or personality, and serves primarily as male eye candy. (The new movie also points to Ken as a symbol of the patriarchy</strong>, but a cryptocurrency column is probably not an ideal forum for that particular debate.)</em></p><p><em>&#8212;- <a href="https://fortune.com/crypto/2023/07/31/barbie-margot-robbie-bitcoin-big-ken-energy/">https://fortune.com/crypto/2023/07/31/barbie-margot-robbie-bitcoin-big-ken-energy/</a></em></p></blockquote><p>&#8230; But my own interest is Kenough for me and regardless of your thoughts on Bitcoin, it&#8217;s discussion is pertinent to any discussion of FRMO.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!EtAp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F42407174-3b49-43de-8887-eb784eb641de_497x246.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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simply holding an investment trust (or even spot ETF).</p><p>.</p><p>For more details on FRMO&#8217;s general stance on topic, I have compiled Chairman Stahl&#8217;s thoughts &#8212;and my own commentary&#8212; on the investment case for Bitcoin and certain other cryptocurrencies in the older post here:</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;80519cb4-1da9-4ef5-a417-c0862d818e18&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&#8220;I think the key ingredient of that is focusing on what is the risk you&#8217;re taking. I think a lot of people get in a lot of trouble because they do a transaction and they don&#8217;t understand what the risk they&#8217;re assuming is when they do the transaction. What he taught me more than anything else was, look at the deal and figure out where is the vulnerabilit&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;md&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($FRMO) FRMO Corp: The Most Important Things - Part 3.1: Bitcoin is the \&quot;better 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Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><h1>Table of contents</h1><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/135459053/some-recent-crypto-developments">Some recent crypto developments</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/135459053/foreign-currency-risk-a-look-back-at">&#8220;Foreign&#8221; currency risk: A look back at 2022</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/135459053/frmos-vertical-yet-modular-bitcoin-business">FRMO&#8217;s vertical yet modular Bitcoin business</a> (skip to here for the most FRMO-specific stuff)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/135459053/two-kinds-of-profitability-if-youre-going-to-go-outside-the-system-stay-out">Two kinds of profitability</a></p></li></ul><h1>Some recent crypto developments</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wvql!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca75d019-7836-4737-bb5b-d1c17ad45681_960x540.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wvql!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca75d019-7836-4737-bb5b-d1c17ad45681_960x540.png 424w, 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href="https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2023/03/31/crypto-market-march-roundup-bitcoin-rises-amid-banking-uncertainties-macro-headwinds/">https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2023/03/31/crypto-market-march-roundup-bitcoin-rises-amid-banking-uncertainties-macro-headwinds/</a></figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IdyG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6fddec8-b8c0-469d-b451-052af644a3b4_766x714.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!IdyG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd6fddec8-b8c0-469d-b451-052af644a3b4_766x714.png 424w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/bitcoin-eyes-third-straight-day-gains-after-touching-two-month-high-2023-06-21/">https://www.reuters.com/technology/bitcoin-eyes-third-straight-day-gains-after-touching-two-month-high-2023-06-21/</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>.</p><p>While Grayscale has been fighting the SEC in court to have it&#8217;s Bitcoin investment trust (GBTC) converted into a spot ETF<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>, several other high profile institutions have recently applied as well to launch Bitcoin spot ETPs including: <a href="https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2023/07/18/2023-15127/self-regulatory-organizations-nyse-arca-inc-notice-of-filing-of-a-proposed-rule-change-to-list-and">Bitwise</a>, <a href="https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2023-15252.pdf">BlackRock</a>, <a href="https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2023-15267.pdf">Fidelity</a>, <a href="https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2023-15272.pdf">WisdomTree</a>, <a href="https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2023-15271.pdf">VanEck</a>, and <a href="https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2023-15268.pdf">Invesco</a>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> An expected favorable outcome for Grayscale in the lawsuit and these recent applications by other traditional institutions have caused renewed interest/market-bullishness in Bitcoin.</p><p>.</p><p>Many regulated financial institutions around the world already offer &#8212;or are preparing to offer&#8212; various forms of digital asset trading platforms, products, and services such as: ICE&#8217;s (and subsidiary, Bakkt) <a href="https://www.theice.com/digital-assets">trading and custody</a> services, CME&#8217;s cryptocurrency <a href="https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/cryptocurrencies.html">options and futures</a> offerings, and the Bank of New York Mellon&#8217;s digital assets <a href="https://www.bnymellon.com/us/en/solutions/digital-assets.html">custody platform</a> (interestingly, the BNY is the oldest continuously operating bank in the US)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a>. This is all well covered in the <a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q1-2023-Commentary_FINAL.pdf">1Q2023 HK Commentary</a>, see the section titled &#8220;<em>Regulatory Environment for Cryptocurrency</em>&#8221;. </p><blockquote><p><em>This could not happen without a detailed, exhaustive review and approval process with the U.S. government, specifically through the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. &#8212;- <a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q1-2023-Commentary_FINAL.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q1-2023-Commentary_FINAL.pdf</a></em></p></blockquote><p>Not included in that commentary are the recent announcements near the end of 2022 of the London Stock Exchange&#8217;s Bitcoin derivatives <a href="https://www.reuters.com/technology/lse-teams-with-digital-trading-platform-offer-bitcoin-futures-options-2023-04-13/">trading services</a> or (via its MaxxTrader subsidiary) the Singapore Exchange&#8217;s <a href="https://www.thetradenews.com/singapore-exchange-launches-digital-asset-trading-solution-through-fx-subsidiary/">digital asset trading solution</a> or the developments at Miami Holdings International (which is a material holding of FRMO and of which certain subsidiaries Stahl is a director)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> towards offering regulated digital asset trading products (via partnerships or acquisitions involving MidChains, Lukka, and LedgerX).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> </p><p>Point being that, around the world, financial institutions are looking at the landscape and coming to the conclusion that &#8212;rather than shying away from crypto for fear of, say, a hammering down on crypto &#224; la &#8220;<em><a href="https://www.cooperkirk.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Operation-Choke-Point-2.0.pdf">Operation Choke Point 2.0</a></em>&#8221;&#8212; it is worth it to invest the time and capital into going through their respective regulatory review processes to build out and market the infrastructure to support digital assets.</p><p>.</p><p>Meanwhile, the SEC has been actively expanding its staffing and resources related to cryptocurrencies.</p><p>In early 2022, the SEC has announced plans to boost the size of its Crypto Assets and Cyber Unit (CACU) by adding 20 investigators and litigators to focus on investigating cryptocurrency fraud and misconduct, nearly doubling the CACU department to a total staff of 50. Bitcoin&#8217;s uber-libertarian fans may have looked askance at this, but others in the space (including Stahl) appeared to view this mostly positively.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a></p><p>You could take this in several ways: 1) The SEC is making additional incremental investment into cracking down on crypto in order to ramp up the pressure to ultimately facilitate its demise or 2) their behavior of actively increasing staff and resources dedicated to cryptocurrencies is indicative of a level of commitment to addressing regulatory and enforcement issues in the cryptocurrency space in expectation of dealing with these issues in an on-going manner, moving forward.</p><blockquote><p><em>The new Congress is <a href="https://www.politico.com/video/2023/02/10/house-financial-services-committee-crypto-regulation-stablecoin-836031">looking again</a> at crypto-specific legislation, but Gensler believes that the SEC has all of the legal tools that it needs. <strong>Over the course of our discussion, he articulated a straightforward view of the agency&#8217;s reach &#8212; that pretty much every sort of crypto transaction already falls under the SEC&#8217;s jurisdiction except <a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/spotmarket.asp">spot transactions</a> in bitcoin itself</strong> and the actual purchase or sale of goods or services with cryptocurrencies. &#8212;- <a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/02/gary-gensler-on-meeting-with-sbf-and-his-crypto-crackdown.html">https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/02/gary-gensler-on-meeting-with-sbf-and-his-crypto-crackdown.html</a></em></p></blockquote><h1>&#8220;Foreign&#8221; currency risk: A look back at 2022</h1><blockquote><p><em>For those who believe that crypto is going to outperform the dollar, which I believe too, then it seems like the next logical step should be, well, why don't you borrow money in dollars to buy your crypto mining equipment, and you'll eventually pay back in appreciated currency, relative to your dollars, via your crypto investments? It makes so much sense, right? [&#8230;] <strong>If you're bringing in investors with their capital, and that&#8217;s denominated in dollars, then you're implicitly trying to figure out, what will the price of bitcoin in relation to the U.S. dollar be at any point in time? Remember that debt is due on a certain fixed date.</strong> That&#8217;s why they call it fixed income. So even if bitcoin outperforms the dollar in the fullness of time, how do you know bitcoin is going to outperform during the life of the fixed income liability that you've assumed? You don't really know that, do you? &#8212;- <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a>, Murray Stahl</em></p></blockquote><p>Imagine the Turkish economy was booming in 2021 and, encouraged by the mainstream headlines like &#8220;<em><s>Bitcoin</s> Lira Price Prediction: Can <s>Bitcoin</s> the Lira Reach $1,000,000 by 2025?</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a>, you had borrowed US dollars (which <em>at the time</em> were rapidly depreciating vs the Lira, anyway) to invest in Turkish business operations at the very start of 2022. That same year, the Federal Reserve started the most aggressive interest rate hiking operation since the 1970s, coaxing the EFFR from 0.08% to 4.33% by year end, and the Turkish lira fell 50% against the USD due to severe inflation and political and economic turmoil in the country<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a>. In the simplified case of no interest expense and repayment of the loan due by around the end of 2022, your investments would have needed to improve their operating profitability at a corresponding rate up to 100% by year end, to make up for the 50% fall in the value of the currency you were collecting, in order for your initial plans to remain unchanged, else risk defaulting on the loan &#8212;and if you did have a <em>floating rate</em> loan, well rates just increased by orders of magnitude in this time, furthering your problems. </p><p>You took on foreign exchange currency risk in a volatile currency pair and suffered a left-tail event when your debts came due. This is essentially what happened with many real life Bitcoin miners &#8212;and their lenders&#8212; in 2022.</p><p>This instructional article titled &#8220;<em><a href="https://hashrateindex.com/blog/how-to-finance-a-bitcoin-mining-setup-a-guide-for-retail-investors-and-institutions/">How to Finance a Bitcoin Mining Operation in 2022</a></em>&#8221;, published by Hashrate Index on March 17 2022, would have been a useful guide for many that year:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!tz1y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F709f806b-a15d-43c3-b8f1-db4725fa07cd_724x499.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://hashrateindex.com/blog/how-to-finance-a-bitcoin-mining-setup-a-guide-for-retail-investors-and-institutions/">https://hashrateindex.com/blog/how-to-finance-a-bitcoin-mining-setup-a-guide-for-retail-investors-and-institutions/</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>&#8230; Instead, 2022 ended with many prominent miners in, or on the brink of, bankruptcy.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PFcd!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d10a5f2-7f32-4b9e-ad0c-a40912002e15_673x342.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PFcd!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d10a5f2-7f32-4b9e-ad0c-a40912002e15_673x342.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PFcd!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d10a5f2-7f32-4b9e-ad0c-a40912002e15_673x342.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PFcd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d10a5f2-7f32-4b9e-ad0c-a40912002e15_673x342.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PFcd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d10a5f2-7f32-4b9e-ad0c-a40912002e15_673x342.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PFcd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d10a5f2-7f32-4b9e-ad0c-a40912002e15_673x342.png" width="673" height="342" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2d10a5f2-7f32-4b9e-ad0c-a40912002e15_673x342.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:342,&quot;width&quot;:673,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:44050,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PFcd!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d10a5f2-7f32-4b9e-ad0c-a40912002e15_673x342.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PFcd!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d10a5f2-7f32-4b9e-ad0c-a40912002e15_673x342.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PFcd!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d10a5f2-7f32-4b9e-ad0c-a40912002e15_673x342.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PFcd!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d10a5f2-7f32-4b9e-ad0c-a40912002e15_673x342.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><blockquote><p><em>Core Scientific and Argo&#8217;s financial troubles could serve as a stand-in for the wider public mining stock landscape. <strong>Many of these miners took on debt in 2021 to finance operations while the market was hot, all while selling little-to-none of the bitcoin they mined last year. Now, with margins evaporating and payments due on these loans, these miners sold significant portions of their mined BTC at increasingly lower prices as the year progressed</strong>. &#8212;- <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/colinharper/2022/12/23/bitcoin-mining-in-2022-the-year-boom-turned-to-bust/">https://www.forbes.com/sites/colinharper/2022/12/23/bitcoin-mining-in-2022-the-year-boom-turned-to-bust/</a></em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_TH_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdce885b3-ee8e-4963-8e01-4ec8e2634b6c_819x690.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_TH_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdce885b3-ee8e-4963-8e01-4ec8e2634b6c_819x690.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_TH_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdce885b3-ee8e-4963-8e01-4ec8e2634b6c_819x690.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_TH_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdce885b3-ee8e-4963-8e01-4ec8e2634b6c_819x690.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_TH_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdce885b3-ee8e-4963-8e01-4ec8e2634b6c_819x690.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_TH_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdce885b3-ee8e-4963-8e01-4ec8e2634b6c_819x690.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_TH_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdce885b3-ee8e-4963-8e01-4ec8e2634b6c_819x690.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_TH_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdce885b3-ee8e-4963-8e01-4ec8e2634b6c_819x690.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_TH_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdce885b3-ee8e-4963-8e01-4ec8e2634b6c_819x690.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-30/crypto-lenders-woes-worsen-as-bitcoin-btc-miners-struggle-to-repay-debt">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-30/crypto-lenders-woes-worsen-as-bitcoin-btc-miners-struggle-to-repay-debt</a>; <a href="https://archive.li/vrtST">https://archive.li/vrtST</a> </figcaption></figure></div><blockquote><p><em>The <a href="https://archive.li/o/vrtST/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-21/-alameda-gap-seen-drying-up-liquidity-across-crypto-markets">liquidity crunch</a> hitting digital-asset markets after FTX failed comes as low Bitcoin prices, soaring energy costs and more competition weigh on miners. Loans backed by the computer equipment, known as rigs, had become one of the industry&#8217;s most popular financing tools. <strong>Many lenders are now likely facing substantial losses since they can&#8217;t seize any other assets besides the machines, whose value has dropped by as much as 85% since last November.</strong>&nbsp;&#8212;- <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-30/crypto-lenders-woes-worsen-as-bitcoin-btc-miners-struggle-to-repay-debt">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-30/crypto-lenders-woes-worsen-as-bitcoin-btc-miners-struggle-to-repay-debt</a></em></p></blockquote><p>The rate hikes in 2022 and the Bitcoin price crash, due to the collapse of the FTX fraud<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> &#8212;that had much less to do with Bitcoin itself than with literal lying and fraud by FTX executives using their own FTT tokens&#8212; coupled with the subsequent sentiment- and liquidity-contagion effects across the associated (and many unassociated) crypto brokers, lenders, VC funds, et al who were affected, had an highly negative impact on Bitcoin miners; many were pushed towards bankruptcy. (Interestingly, from this incident, we also got to see a relatively contained experiment of what the 2008 banking crisis could have looked like without the intervention of governments<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a>). </p><p>2021: Encouraged by the rapid rise in the price of Bitcoin relative to US dollars, the Bitcoin mining industry takes on greater leverage in order to invest in mining equipment.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X2Va!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff89b630c-c8d9-4b3f-9b2b-93b2024588a8_811x482.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X2Va!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff89b630c-c8d9-4b3f-9b2b-93b2024588a8_811x482.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X2Va!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff89b630c-c8d9-4b3f-9b2b-93b2024588a8_811x482.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X2Va!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff89b630c-c8d9-4b3f-9b2b-93b2024588a8_811x482.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X2Va!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff89b630c-c8d9-4b3f-9b2b-93b2024588a8_811x482.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X2Va!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff89b630c-c8d9-4b3f-9b2b-93b2024588a8_811x482.jpeg" width="811" height="482" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f89b630c-c8d9-4b3f-9b2b-93b2024588a8_811x482.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:482,&quot;width&quot;:811,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Crypto miners' debt-to-equity ratio over the last three quarters (TheMinerMag)&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Crypto miners' debt-to-equity ratio over the last three quarters (TheMinerMag)" title="Crypto miners' debt-to-equity ratio over the last three quarters (TheMinerMag)" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X2Va!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff89b630c-c8d9-4b3f-9b2b-93b2024588a8_811x482.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X2Va!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff89b630c-c8d9-4b3f-9b2b-93b2024588a8_811x482.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X2Va!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff89b630c-c8d9-4b3f-9b2b-93b2024588a8_811x482.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X2Va!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff89b630c-c8d9-4b3f-9b2b-93b2024588a8_811x482.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/12/30/bitcoin-miners-got-crushed-by-crypto-winter-2023-may-bring-more-pain/">https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/12/30/bitcoin-miners-got-crushed-by-crypto-winter-2023-may-bring-more-pain/</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>March 2022: The Federal Reserve begins aggressive interest rate hikes in order to combat inflation<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a>. This tightening of credit in itself was also seen as as a contributing factor to the FTX crash and the subsequent decline in Bitcoin's price<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a> &#8212;I suppose just on the fact alone that BTC can be viewed as a kind of long-duration bet (on this &#8216;startup&#8217; asset class gaining mainstream acceptance).</p><p>November 11 2022: The collapse of the crypto broker FTX and the subsequent market meltdown caused a significant drop in the price of Bitcoin. As news of FTX's financial troubles circulated, Bitcoin's price fell by 20% in just the first weeks of the scandal. This drop in BTC against the USD narrowed profit margins for miners, who were already facing challenges due to the existing bear market brought on by the Fed&#8217;s rate hikes in addition to rising energy costs at the time, taking many mining operations to the brink of &#8212;or just straight up into&#8212; bankrupcty.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a> This further lowered the price of BTC as miners sold off their held BTC in order to repay their USD debts &#8212;which further dropped the BTC/USD exchange rate and further narrowed profit margins for miners.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N8FO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9251ec77-773d-4c4b-8b27-7c54600d7bf3_617x605.png" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N8FO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9251ec77-773d-4c4b-8b27-7c54600d7bf3_617x605.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N8FO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9251ec77-773d-4c4b-8b27-7c54600d7bf3_617x605.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!N8FO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9251ec77-773d-4c4b-8b27-7c54600d7bf3_617x605.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://blockworks.co/news/2022-for-public-bitcoin-miners">https://blockworks.co/news/2022-for-public-bitcoin-miners</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>In short, the rise in interest rates, the decline in Bitcoin&#8217;s dollar pricing, and the FTX-induced market panic led to selling pressure among miners. Mining companies faced declining revenues and increasing operating (and interest) expenses, which further strained their financial situation. Many prominent miners were forced to sell their underlying Bitcoin holdings to meet financial obligations<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a>; many miners (and lenders, alike) were forced into bankruptcy.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a> These asset-sales and bankruptcies further exacerbated conditions in the crypto market that had their own ricochet effects that had to be worked through the crypto ecosystem. </p><h1>FRMO&#8217;s vertical yet modular Bitcoin business</h1><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>In any event, we took these machines and <strong>we converted those assets, which have a relatively modest finite life, if you want to look at it this way, to bitcoin, which has infinite life</strong>. Let's look at it in an inflation sense. Imagine we were a gold mining company. But instead of mining gold and selling it, we're only selling enough gold to pay our operating expenses, and we&#8217;re keeping the remainder of the gold.</em></p><p><em><strong>Let's just say we're a gold mining company in the year 1900, and that was our practice. We would sell enough gold to cover operating expenses and put the remainder in a vault</strong>. No company ever did that, with one exception, which was Goldcorp. It was a Canadian company that was ultimately acquired by Newmont, and Newmont ceased that practice, so the world has very limited experience with that practice. But let's just say there was a company in the year 1900 extracting gold and just left the gold in the vault, meaning on its balance sheet. <strong>What would be its net asset value today relative to a company with the same production that just sold all its gold along the way? I think the answer is obvious. It would be much, much higher</strong>.</em></p><p><em>In a sense, that's what we're trying to do. Now, it's a little more interesting in the case of crypto for the following reason. <strong>In the world of gold, if the price gets high enough, the world's going to extract more gold, so there will be a lot more supply. In the case of Bitcoin, no matter how high the price gets, only roughly 1.6 million more bitcoin are ever going to be mined</strong>. For the next 375 days, roughly, they're going to be mined at the rate of six and a quarter every ten minutes.</em></p><p><em>In 375 days, there are going to be 1.3 million coins left, and we know what the rate of production of those 1.3 million coins will be between that date&#8212;roughly a year from now&#8212;and the year 2140. So, there's a lot of scarcity value. It's called digital scarcity. If you can enforce digital scarcity, would that be a better tethering device for currency than gold? Obviously, the world&#8217;s fiat system is breaking down. I would argue that even though there's a lot to be said in favor of gold&#8212;and we have gold-related investments&#8212;there&#8217;s enormously greater potential for digital scarcity. <strong>That&#8217;s assuming it can be faithfully executed, which is still an open question, but I believe it can be done. We're building a company that is going to hold digital scarcity instead of gold scarcity.</strong>&#8221; &#8212;- Murray Stahl, <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a> </em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><em>The purpose of this labyrinthine approach is not to be opaque, although this is the unfortunate effect; rather, the purpose is to explore new asset classes and new business opportunities in a gradual manner that limits risk and disruption. Risk is not merely the possible loss of capital. &#8212;- <a href="https://frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2019.pdf">https://frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2019.pdf</a></em></p></blockquote><p>While the majority of transaction-validation businesses in &#8216;Bitcoin land&#8217; were getting killed and going bankrupt due to their &#8216;fiat land&#8217; currency exchange liabilities. FRMO&#8217;s Bitcoin operations came out of 2022 generally unharmed. I wish the same could be said about their stock price, but such is the case when BTC&#8217;s dollar pricing drops at the same time that Texas Pacific Land Corp&#8217;s board of directors takes it&#8217;s own shareholders and fellow directors to court for having the gall to vote against unconstrained share dilution and acquisitions<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a>.</p><p>.</p><p>My general understanding of FRMO&#8217;s vertically integrated Bitcoin business across the Bitcoin value chain:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0Ho0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2072a40b-674f-4edd-8be8-307e83b07131_1152x672.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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I'm also not 100% to what extent monitoring equipment for FRMO, CMSC, and HMT's mining operations is sourced specifically or solely from Winland, but I'd be surprised if Stahl isn't &#8216;<em>eating his own cooking</em>&#8217; to a large degree here; I&#8217;ll have to ask about this at the next earnings call).</p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20230908: So I asked about this on the 2023 annual FRMO meeting (<a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a>, see Questioner 10), Stahl says HK, FRMO, and HMT have never actually used Winland Electronic sensors in their mining operations, though Winland, CMSC, et al have had machine hosted and repaired at HMT as well as occasionally procuring machines from HMT. I&#8217;ve updated the graphic to reflect this.</em> <em>Why they do not use Winland products for this purpose is a bit odd to me as this seems like an obvious and synergistic application for that company&#8217;s otherwise-stagnant Products &amp; Services segment to expand into. For example, Winland&#8217;s INSIGHT product is a SAAS (data center) environment monitoring solution that seems perfect for crypto mining operations and for allowing Winland to gain a kind of recurring royalty payment on the work and</em> <em>expansion of other miners if they were to adapt and market this tech for the purpose</em>. **********</p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20240708: And do note that Stahl is indeed aware of and allowing Winland&#8217;s electronics business to stagnate, see Questioner 17 here <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2024_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2024_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></em> ********** </p><p>In Lawrence Cunningham&#8217;s &#8220;<em>The Essays of Warren Buffett</em>&#8221;, Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger &#8212;who, for their own part, have described Bitcoin as &#8220;rat poison&#8221;&#8212; describe the benefits of Berkshire&#8217;s conglomerate structure as generally being those of&#8230;</p><ul><li><p><strong>Capital Allocation</strong>: The conglomerate structure enables effective capital deployment across Berkshire to businesses with high growth potential and profitability.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a> For FRMO, this comes down to your view on Stahl&#8217;s and HK&#8217;s capital allocation and investing decisions &#8212;I&#8217;m for it and would rather have him (and FRMO&#8217;s ability to also invest in private companies) making these investment decisions rather than myself. </p></li><li><p><strong>Long-Term Perspective</strong>: The conglomerate approach supports decisions that prioritize long-term value over short-term gains. (See previous point).</p></li><li><p><strong>Hands-On Management</strong>: Active involvement by Buffett and Munger ensures careful selection and monitoring of businesses. (See previous point).</p></li><li><p><strong>Shared Resources and Expertise</strong>: Subsidiaries benefit from shared resources and operational expertise, boosting efficiency. (Note the graphic above).</p></li><li><p><strong>Cultural Alignment</strong>: Berkshire Hathaway invests in and improves businesses with strong management teams and cultures. In the case of FRMO, management is able to influence their subsidiaries in a similar way; Windland holdings was initially a play by FRMO on the company&#8217;s high-ROIC environmental monitoring equipment and subscription business and only later began acquiring Bitcoin rights claims and mining equipment.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-19" href="#footnote-19" target="_self">19</a></p></li><li><p><strong>Inflation Hedge</strong>: Certain portfolio segments at Berkshire like insurance and utilities can offer protection against inflation. At FRMO, inflation is a top-of-mind issue and Bitcoin is a direct part of that left-tail positioning.</p></li><li><p><strong>Diversification</strong>: Berkshire Hathaway&#8217;s diverse portfolio of businesses helps manage risks from economic cycles and industry challenges. In terms of FRMO&#8217;s crypto operations, their subsidiaries vary across the whole Bitcoin value chain &#8212;from server environment monitoring to mining equipment and mining for their own account. </p></li><li><p><strong>Market Volatility Resilience</strong>: A mix of businesses helps Berkshire Hathaway navigate market volatility more effectively. (See previous point).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-20" href="#footnote-20" target="_self">20</a></p></li></ul><p>I likewise see these as the benefits of gaining my exposure to Bitcoin via FRMO.</p><p>.</p><p>In the <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">2021 annual meeting</a>, Stahl mentions that</p><p>1) they had always planned to move FRMO beyond being an asset holding company &#8212;in order to have something that could generate cashflow even after they had eventually departed&#8212; and wanted to build some kind of operating business,</p><p>2) the type of business they eventually decided to pursue was Bitcoin and cryptocurrency (which is a bit ironic if your goal was to generate &#8220;<em>cash</em>&#8221;-flow), and</p><p>3) due to the predictable nature of the Bitcoin protocol block reward &#8220;halving&#8221; and the associated sporadic and unpredictable deflationary innovation within this fast-evolving industry (and corresponding obsolescence of existing generations of technology and equipment) that it incentivizes, they did not want to make singular, large capex spends when building up their crypto business. </p><p>The result was FRMO&#8217;s Bitcoin business being built or accumulated in small, experimental steps. (This step-wise approach to capex spending in their crypto investments also helped FRMO avoid taking large losses during the crypto crash the unraveling of the FTX scandal through 2022).</p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20240117</em>:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>We didn&#8217;t know seven or eight years ago when you started the venture if crypto was a viable business or not. We just thought we knew enough about it to be able to make some reasonable assertions about it and make some money at. So that's what we ended up doing. And so far, it&#8217;s working out well.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Murray Stahl, FY2024Q2 earning call</p></blockquote><p>**********</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>But to put too much money in any new-generation equipment risks their obsolescence if a halving is approaching and, therefore, places in peril the whole cryptocurrency mining effort, so we can&#8217;t do that. So, we have to move in a step-by-step function in terms of capital investment</strong>. You&#8217;re taking a machine and operating it until it can&#8217;t operate anymore, until it&#8217;s worn out, and, effectively&#8212;we want to think of it this way&#8212;you&#8217;re converting it into cryptocurrency. You&#8217;re taking a temporal asset, one that has a limited life and for which it&#8217;s hard to judge the lifespan at point of purchase, to convert it into crypto.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><em>One of the drivers of investing the capital over time is the understanding &#8211; and anticipation - that to <strong>the cost of mining equipment changes significantly over time, relative to, amongst other factors, the current profitability of the equipment as well as the number of days to the next halving (which is less than two years away).</strong> Technology improvements and increased efficiency in each round of equipment innovation will continue to make older generation equipment less profitable and ultimately obsolete. &#8212;- <a href="https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/62338ff96dab781ffa5fd112/62fbf51539096b2be5ee5bd1_CMSC%20Q1%202022%20Shareholder%20Update.pdf">https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/62338ff96dab781ffa5fd112/62fbf51539096b2be5ee5bd1_CMSC%20Q1%202022%20Shareholder%20Update.pdf</a></em></p></blockquote><p><strong>Thus, when looking at FRMO&#8217;s various crypto investments, you should keep in mind that these should not necessarily be thought of as being separate from each other, but are most likely planned to eventually be operated or otherwise merged together in some integrated or mutually-supporting manner.</strong> </p><p>.</p><h3>Winland Holdings (WELX): Data center monitoring, crypto mining, and crypto bankruptcy claims</h3><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">According to Google Maps, Winland LLC&#8217;s offices are located somewhere within what appears to be an abandoned prison.</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Data center monitoring equipment and crypto mining</strong> (via Winland Electronics Inc. and Winland Mining LLC (which HK hosts on their behalf) under Winland Holdings (WLEX))</p><h4>Winland Electronics Inc</h4><p>While the earliest mention of &#8220;Bitcoin&#8221; in FRMO documents that I could find was in 2016, FRMO was already heavily involved with Winland as far back as 2014, before Winland was ever involved in cryptocurrency, with FRMO acquiring &#8220;<em>greater than 5% [their stake at the time being 15%] of the Company&#8217;s outstanding common stock on November 14, 2014</em>&#8221; and Murray Stahl sitting on the board of directors, per Winland&#8217;s <a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/152152/content">2015 annual report</a>. </p><p>The earliest mention of Winland from FRMO themselves comes in the <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2015_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">2015 earnings call</a> where it appears this initial investment was driven by the attractiveness of Winland&#8217;s main business, at the time, of environment monitoring equipment for data centers, server rooms, healthcare settings, and many other use cases, rather then anything directly relating to Bitcoin. </p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Winland, small though it is, has a fairly high return on capital. It generates reasonable quantities of cash. We bought it when it was quite undervalued. Companies that are not in the indices and that no one knows about, are still out there and, every now and then, you can find them.&#8221; &#8212;- Murray Stahl, FRMO 2015 earnings call</em></p></blockquote><p>The <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2016_Q1_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">Q1FY2016 earnings call</a> reveals their initial 15% stake was purchased at a discount to book value; &#8220;<em>It earns a fee for monitoring and contacting the client in the event that something is amiss.</em>&#8221;</p><p>Winland also appears to be a potential candidate facilitating FRMO&#8217;s long-planned (or at least jawboned-about) aspirations for converting FRMO into an operating company. </p><blockquote><p>TH&#201;R&#200;SE BYARS: "That&#8217;ll be my pleasure. The first one says, &#8220;<strong>Are there any updates to potentially becoming an operational business rather than just an owner of assets?</strong> Are there any updates that can be discussed with shareholders?&#8221; MURRAY STAHL: I alluded to it but I didn&#8217;t elaborate. <strong>The easiest path is to acquire 51% of one of our publicly traded subsidiaries. The company we have the biggest stake in right now is Winland, at about 29% [32% as of more recent earnings calls]</strong>. In the most recent quarter, we bought some more. So, if we end up going in that direction with one of our businesses, we&#8217;d acquire 51%, if we could, and conduct our operations via that entity. &#8212;- <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2022_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2022_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>FRMO owns 30.8% of Winland. [&#8230;] What we&#8217;ve been doing in FRMO is to nibble away, when we thought it was appropriate, at Winland shares. So, we&#8217;ve been buying Winland shares, and we thought that was the best use of the capital, given what was going on in the mining rig market</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p>Note that while FRMO owns that 32% of WELX (beneficially via FRMO co-founder Steve Bregman who sits on WELX&#8217;s board), the total controlling interest by Stahl&#8217;s Horizon Kinetics complex is closer to 46% as WELX CEO Matthew Houk is an HK employee and owns a 14% stake in the company (though this stake does not appear to be beneficially owned by FRMO or HK, so Houk himself controls the voting rights).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-21" href="#footnote-21" target="_self">21</a> He appears in the company&#8217;s list of directors as far back as the <a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/filing/html?id=9179900&amp;guid=Hdd-k6Q1UvI7B3h">2012 10K</a>, when Winland was still filing with the SEC.</p><p>********** UPDATE 20240117:</p><p><em>My understanding had always been that WELX&#8217;s electronics business was being used as the primary method to fund the step-wise growth/expansion of the crypto mining segment. In the recent FY2024Q2 conference call, I asked about efforts that WELX may be making to grow the electronics side &#8212;which has long been stagnant&#8212; in order to contribute more the greater growth on the mining side. The answer that Stahl gave seems to indicate that the electronics businesses is no longer the primary driver of the mining LLC&#8217;s working capital, but rather FRMO itself fulfills that role, incrementally providing rigs to the mining segment in exchange for incrementally increasing FRMO&#8217;s ownership of WELX common stock. (I assume then that the electronics side is used mainly to cover WELX&#8217;s overall COGS and opex in order to allow Winland to accumulate and retain as much Bitcoin on their balance sheet as possible).</em></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>In terms of the crypto business, FRMO has participated in many equity offerings, in Winland, and we have more enough capital in FRMO to provide for all of Winland's needs, so big difference between FRMO and Winland and Consensus is, in Winland, we raised money in really small stages and as we need it, and that money has largely come from FRMO.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Murray Stahl, FRMO FY2024Q2 conference call</p></blockquote><p>**********</p><h4>Winland Mining LLC</h4><p>The history of Winland&#8217;s buildup of mining assets, orchestrated by FRMO and Horizon Kinetics, can be seen documented in their <a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/361485/content">2022 annual report</a>:</p><ul><li><p>On June 23, 2020, the Company, through its wholly-owned subsidiary Winland Mining, acquired 200 Bitmain S19 95 TH/S cryptocurrency miners from FRMO Corporation in exchange for 574,000 shares of the Company&#8217;s common stock. In connection with its acquisition of cryptocurrency mining equipment, <strong>Winland Mining entered into a services agreement with Horizon Kinetics LLC to engage with cryptocurrency mining hosting facilities on Winland Mining&#8217;s behalf</strong> and to support its cryptocurrency mining operations by performing certain services from time to time. </p></li><li><p>On September 1, 2020, the Company, through its wholly-owned subsidiary <strong>Winland Mining, acquired cash and cryptocurrencies of Horatio Mining LLC</strong> [that is, they acquired Horatio Mining in its entirety]<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-22" href="#footnote-22" target="_self">22</a>, a privately-held cryptocurrency mining company, <strong>from FRMO Corporation in exchange for 136,419 shares</strong> of the Company&#8217;s common stock. </p></li><li><p>On September 8, 2021, the Company, through its wholly-owned subsidiary Winland Mining, acquired 32 Canaan AvalonMiner 1246 90 TH/S cryptocurrency miners from FRMO Corporation in exchange for 52,560 shares of the Company&#8217;s common stock. </p></li><li><p>As of December, 2022 and 2021, Winland Mining owned 71 and 56 Bitcoins.</p></li></ul><p>By attaching Bitcoin mining and HODL&#8217;ing to a business with existing USD cashflow operations, WELX&#8217;s mining operation serves as a kind of emergent Bitcoin spot ETF in that it should increasingly trade in correlation to the price of the BTC it holds, while (unlike a formal BTC trust or ETF that might exist) not having to sell off those BTCs for cash in order to pay management and operation fees &#8212;those fees instead coming out of the traditional operations of the business (in this case, Winland Electronics).</p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;<strong>One thing I should say about Winland is that it can be thought of almost like a quasi-bitcoin ETF</strong>. When you buy a bitcoin ETF, if there were a bitcoin ETF, you should be aware of the fee impact. Unlike a mutual fund or an ordinary ETF, bitcoin pays no dividends that can be used to pay the operator&#8217;s fees. Therefore, if there were a bitcoin ETF, the operator, each and every quarter or probably every month, would have to sell some bitcoin to pay the fees.&#8221; &#8212;- Murray Stahl, https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</em></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><em>For ease of explanation, consider a bitcoin ETF that exists in a steady state mode&#8212;no money coming in for new purchases, and no requests for redemptions&#8212;so that it owns a constant number of bitcoins. Except that it can&#8217;t own a constant number. An equity or bond ETF extracts its fees from the dividend or interest payments. But there are no bitcoin dividends or interest. <strong>A bitcoin ETF would have to sell sufficient bitcoin to pay the fee, so the per-share number of bitcoin would be in constant decline. Over time, the cumulative difference would be impactful. An operating miner that &#8216;banks&#8217; its bitcoin earnings and accrues an evergreater balance sheet position, might be a superior vehicle.</strong> The potential market for such a vehicle could be very large. &#8212;- Steve Bregman, <a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q2-23-Commentary_FINAL.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q2-23-Commentary_FINAL.pdf</a></em></p></blockquote><h4>Winland Captial Corp.</h4><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZHtW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe0a564eb-25f5-4101-b9d1-069ad01cfba1_830x827.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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financials that their Winland Capital Corp segment purchased. These are bankruptcy (turned &#8220;civil rehabilitation&#8221;) claims related to the collapse of the Japanese Mount Gox cryptocurrency exchange in 2014<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-23" href="#footnote-23" target="_self">23</a>. </p><p>These claims could be worth multiples of this recorded value. The majority of these claims appear to have been purchased in 2018 (when USD/BTC price was around ); this is the earliest mention of &#8220;<em>rights to payment</em>&#8221; in Winland&#8217;s annual reports. Looking at the interim reports, Id&#8217; say ~1/3rd of these claims where bought between Jan-June 2018 (BTC fell from $17K to $7.5K) and remaining ~2/3rds were purchased from July to the end of the year (BTC fell from $6K to $3K). Note that WELX made agreements to share certain portions of the bankruptcy claim payouts with the original claimants as a part of conditions they agreed to in order to acquire some of these claims.</p><p>In the 2018 annual letter, Stahl had this to say about Winland&#8217;s purchase of rights to payments: </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Recently, Winland has been investing in bankruptcy claims. These are generally bankruptcy claims that rank high in the credit hierarchy, but are not sufficiently large to attract the interest of bankruptcy workout funds. Indeed, sometimes bankruptcy workout funds actually will feel compelled to purchase these claims from holders merely to simplify an existing bankruptcy. History records that the returns from this type of investment are uncorrelated to major financial trends. The returns can also be quite high. However, it is not easy to obtain the claims. Simply finding the owners and establishing a dialogue is a time consuming process. We hope to be able to increase our exposure to this type of asset.</em>&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>In the FRMO <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2020.pdf">2020 annual letter</a>, Stahl estimated that &#8220;<em>[t]he value of Winland&#8217;s Mt. Gox trade claims is currently about $600,000, on a conservative basis.</em>&#8221; FRMO&#8217;s fiscal year ends in August; USD/BTC was around $10K-$12K at that time, implying that Stahl thought that WELX had a reasonable claim to around 60BTC through the Mt.Gox trade claims. Given the current BTC price of ~$30K, that estimated value should now be up to $1.8MM ($600K * $30K/$10K = $1.8MM), ~5x the carrying value of the claims on Winland&#8217;s books and ~20% of WELX&#8217;s current marketcap. This does not even consider what could happen with WELX&#8217;s trading P/BV post-halving in 2024<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-24" href="#footnote-24" target="_self">24</a>; current P/BV is around 3.5x (3x if you add in the possible 5x value of the Mt.Gox claims (3.5/1.20=3x)), but hit a multiple closer to 10x at Bitcoin&#8217;s peaks in 2021 &#8212;of course who knows how Mr.Market is going to capitalize WELX&#8217;s book value after having lived through the 2022 crypto winter (which, again, didn&#8217;t really have much to do with Bitcoin itself). </p><p>I haven&#8217;t done much work on this, but given Stahl&#8217;s past comment on the possibility of merging FRMO and WELX to transform FRMO into an operating business, buying WELX shares rather than FRMO stock could, <em>in the long-run</em>, be a path to essentially acquiring FRMO shares at a lower valuation. (I&#8217;d have to think about this more; I currently estimate FRMO&#8217;s <em>true</em> P/BV at around 1.5x). </p><p>(If that sounds interesting to you, note that WELX shares are very illiquid, so when/if you get into some shares, consider yourself locked in for better or, especially, worse).</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>When we hear other who have looked at an inactive stock ask my three favorite questions &#8212;How are you going to buy it? How are you going to get out? What is going to make it go up?&#8212; we know we have the makings of a winner.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Lawrence Goldstein, General Partner of Santa Monica Partners LP, FRMO director </p></blockquote><p>.</p><p>TBH, when I look at Winland&#8217;s history, I&#8217;d have to admit that I think that their acquiring of Mt.Gox Bitcoin claims was likely more due to the encouragement of  director Thomas Braziel (co-founder and managing partner of 507 Capital) then anyone from HK. See <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/mt-gox-surprising-redemption-bitcoin-190418425.html">https://www.yahoo.com/news/mt-gox-surprising-redemption-bitcoin-190418425.html</a>; <a href="https://507capital.com/mtgox/">https://507capital.com/mtgox/</a>.</p><p>Winland terminated it&#8217;s CEO in November 15, 2013 (<a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/133577/content">https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/133577/content</a>) and I do not see any sign of a CEO at the company until the company&#8217;s restructuring in 2018 when Winland Electronics changed to Winland Holdings and it was determined that &#8220;<em>Thomas Braziel and Matthew Houk [a Horizon Kinetics employee] will serve as Co-Chairmen and Co-Chief Executive Officers of the Company.</em>&#8221; They had both been directors since 2013 (<a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/190095/content">https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/190095/content</a>). The CEO title is later only assigned to Houk starting in the 2021 annual report (<a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/325275/content">https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/325275/content</a>) with Braziel apparently stepping down while running the Winland Credit subsidiary of Winland Capital Corp under his firm 507 Capital LLC according to a 1.5-and-20 management/performance agreement &#8212;presumably looking for more opportunities to invest in distressed (crypto) debt (of which there may be a fresh batch of opportunities coming out of 2022; <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/crypto-bankruptcy-markets-thriving-ftx-collapse/">https://www.wired.com/story/crypto-bankruptcy-markets-thriving-ftx-collapse/</a>).  </p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20240708: WELX&#8217;s current CEO Mat Houk, who is also an HK employee, came to run the company via gaining a controlling interest in the company shares in around 2015. As such, their control of WELX is not (directly) as a beneficial owner for HK. You can read more about Braziel and Houk&#8217;s acquisition of the company here (<a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2015_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2015_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a>), here (<a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2018_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2018_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a>), and here (<a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2024_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2024_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a>, Questioner 23). Whether their strategy of using Winland&#8217;s legacy business cashflows to eventually fund other investments (eg. Bitcoin mining and crypto bankruptcy claims), while apparently letting that original business stagnate (we can see that revenues to the Products &amp; Services segment have been basically flat since 2014 to 2023), was their intention all along or simply a pivot from a failed attempt at turning the primary business around, I&#8217;m not sure. </em> **********</p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20241208: The management agreement between Winland Captial and Thomas Braziel&#8217;s 507 Capital LLC was actually terminated in July 2023. This may be just as well as I recently read a Wall Street Journal article where Braziel apparently admitted to mishandling shareholder funds for his sole personal benefit after getting himself into a position of a liquidating receivership for a company, after an investigation that began in January 2022 (<a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/ftx-claims-broker-thomas-braziel-stole-1-9-million-from-a-receivership-for-personal-gain-court-says-d3375130">https://www.wsj.com/articles/ftx-claims-broker-thomas-braziel-stole-1-9-million-from-a-receivership-for-personal-gain-court-says-d3375130</a>). In fact, the last annual report on which he is recorded as an officer or director or as owning any shares in the 2021 annual report (<a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/325275/content">https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/325275/content</a>); thereafter he no longer appears as having any involvement with Winland. (See &#8220;"Note 15. Related Party Transactions&#8221;, <a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/395999/content">https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/395999/content</a>).</em> **********</p><div class="comment" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.substack.com/home&quot;,&quot;commentId&quot;:112667440,&quot;comment&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:112667440,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2025-04-28T04:42:08.396Z&quot;,&quot;edited_at&quot;:&quot;2025-07-02T00:11:57.241Z&quot;,&quot;body&quot;:&quot;$FRMO $WELX FRMO, Winland Holdings\n\nGiven FRMO mgmt&#8217;s focus on acquiring Winland (WELX) and becoming an operating company based on that acquisition, one question that&#8217;s always bothered me was: what is management's expectation for how acquiring Winland would move the needle for shareholders given that the entirety of that company&#8217;s marketcap is around just 5% of FRMO's own marketcap?&nbsp;\n\nThinking about this a bit more and considering more recent comments by management, I think I know what they expect now. \n\nBasically, they look at BTC-miners as superior sat-stacking vehicles to GBTC or the other ETFs (which they&#8217;ve stopped buying since the GBTC NAV discount closed when the BTC ETFs were all approved by the SEC) and so they're basically just dollar cost averaging (DCA'ing) into BTC via the miner WELX instead --which is one that is already&nbsp;run by someone they trust (an HK employee, Matt Houk) and small enough that they can acquire a controlling interest to determine how it will run in the future-- while holding to their POV of BTC being an asymmetric high risk high reward asset that could still go exponential or go to zero. \n\nWhile a 51% ownership of WELX is currently just around 2.5% of FRMO's total book value, if BTC 10-100x's yet again and takes WELX along with it, that's a 25-250% total \&quot;portfolio\&quot; contribution from just a 2.5% cost-basis position (your personal weighing of BTC success and subsequent Kelly ratios may vary). \n\nJust replace &#8220;gradually acquiring control of WELX&#8221; with &#8220;DCA'ing GBTC or BTC units&#8221; and I think it makes more sense. 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attaching Bitcoin mining and HODL&#8217;ing to a business with existing USD cashflow operations, WELX&#8217;s mining operation serves as a kind of emergent Bitcoin spot ETF in that it should increasingly trade in correlation to the price of the BTC it holds, while (unlike a formal BTC trust or ETF that might exist) not having to sell off those BTCs for cash in order to pay management and operation fees &#8212;those fees instead coming out of the traditional operations of the business (in this case, Winland Electronics). &#8220;One thing I should say about Winland is that it can be thought of almost like a quasi-bitcoin ETF. When you buy a bitcoin ETF, if there were a bitcoin ETF, you should be aware of the fee impact. Unlike a mutual fund or an ordinary ETF, bitcoin pays no dividends that can be used to pay the operator&#8217;s fees. Therefore, if there were a bitcoin ETF, the operator, each and every quarter or probably every month, would have to sell some bitcoin to pay the fees.&#8221; &#8212;- Murray Stahl, https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/l&#8230;&quot;,&quot;is_auto_selection&quot;:false},&quot;postSelectionTheme&quot;:{&quot;name&quot;:&quot;green&quot;,&quot;alignment&quot;:&quot;left&quot;},&quot;postImageSelection&quot;:null,&quot;clipInfo&quot;:null,&quot;mediaClip&quot;:null}],&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;user_id&quot;:58613880,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;user_bestseller_tier&quot;:null,&quot;userStatus&quot;:{&quot;bestsellerTier&quot;:null,&quot;subscriberTier&quot;:null,&quot;leaderboard&quot;:null,&quot;vip&quot;:false,&quot;badge&quot;:null,&quot;paidPublicationIds&quot;:[],&quot;subscriber&quot;:null}}}" data-component-name="CommentPlaceholder"></div><h3>Digital Currency Group (DCG): Cryptocurrency asset management</h3><p>Cryptocurrency <strong>asset management</strong> (Digital Currency Group (DCG))</p><p>In the <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">2QFY2023 FRMO earnings call</a>, Stahl described DCG&#8217;s business thusly: &#8220;<em>[A]s you've seen, have their challenges, obviously, but the core business is fabulous. <strong>What's the core business? It's a bitcoin investment trust [GBTC]. You know what the assets under management are, you can find that on the website in a second. You know what the fees are, and much of that goes right to the bottom line.</strong> So there are challenges in other aspects of the DGC business, as you can read in the journals, but we never got involved in lending out crypto or any of that stuff. We don't really believe much in it. In the future, I don't think you're going to see that sort of activity in general in the cryptocurrency world&#8212;that&#8217;s really something that's best done in banking.</em>&#8221;</p><p>In a report on DCG earlier this year, &#8220;<em>[i]n its annual independent stock valuation, DCG had an equity valuation of $2.2 billion, or a price per share of $27.93. &#8216;This appraisal is generally consistent with the sector&#8217;s 75%-85% decline in equity values over the same period,&#8217; the report said.</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-25" href="#footnote-25" target="_self">25</a>. Per the FRMO <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021.pdf">2021 annual letter</a>, &#8220;<em>FRMO owns 353 shares of Digital Currency Group (DCG)</em>&#8221; &#8212;they&#8217;ve owned this amount since initially investing in DCG&#8217;s series B raise in February of 2016<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-26" href="#footnote-26" target="_self">26</a>. Putting these two pieces of info together (and factoring in the 77% increase in USD/BTC so far this year), I&#8217;d put the value of FRMO&#8217;s DCG stake at around $17450.94 (($27.93/sh x 1.77) x 353sh = $17450.94).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-27" href="#footnote-27" target="_self">27</a></p><h3>Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (GBTC) and de minimis niche cryptocurrency ownership</h3><p>Aside from FRMO&#8217;s larger GBTC and direct Bitcoin and Litecoin holdings, they also hold de minimis amounts of various other smaller and less popular cryptocurrency holdings that have comparable monetary policies to Bitcoin, either directly or via Grayscale trusts (eg. Ethereum Classic, ZCash, Bitcoin SV, and Bitcoin Cash). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yy4X!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7bd94a8-9616-4eaa-b478-ce67d6612cbe_655x404.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yy4X!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7bd94a8-9616-4eaa-b478-ce67d6612cbe_655x404.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yy4X!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe7bd94a8-9616-4eaa-b478-ce67d6612cbe_655x404.png 848w, 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The basic idea is that the network effects of a crytpocurrency are/should be generally correlated to the value of it&#8217;s monetary policy; all of these smaller cryptos held by FRMO have similar monetary policies to Bitcoin; due to their obscurity or unpopularity after their forking from Bitcoin (or other parent crypto), they are akin to spinoff businesses that have been sold off for non-economic reasons (recall Joel Greenblatt&#8217;s &#8220;<em>You Can Be A Stock Market Genius</em>&#8221;)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-28" href="#footnote-28" target="_self">28</a> &#8212;you could say Stahl sees them as acceptable &#8216;comps&#8217; to Bitcoin&#8217;s &#8216;business&#8217;. </p><blockquote><p><em>Luckily for you, the answer is that these extra spinoff profits are practically built into the system. <strong>The spinoff process itself is a fundamentally inefficient method of distributing stock to the wrong people. Generally, the new spinoff stock isn't sold, it's given to shareholders who, for the most part, were investing in the parent company's business. Therefore, once the spinoffs shares are distributed to the parent company's shareholders, they are typically sold immediately without regard to price or fundamental value. The initial excess supply has a predictable effect on the spinoff stock's price: it is usually depressed</strong>. Supposedly shrewd institutional investors also join in the selling. &#8212;- &#8220;You Can Be A Stock Market Genius&#8221;, Joel Greenblatt</em></p></blockquote><p>Furthermore, they have lower total supply as many of their owners&#8217; private keys have since been &#8220;lost.&#8221; Stahl believes that when (not if) a BTC spot ETF is approved by the US, it will open the flood gates for other cryptocurrency spot ETFs; market liquidity will flood into crypto space; Mr.Market will be able to bring greater crowd-wisdom to bear in the space; these obscure cryptos should end up with similar total marketcaps to BTC due to their comparable monetary policies; just holding a few could then fetch a 400x return per unit of these cryptos (that have much lower un-lost supply and currently trade at tiny fractions of BTC&#8217;s price) when this correction does happen.</p><p>I&#8217;d actually prefer if FRMO owned their BTC directly rather than via GBTC as you get the added benefit of free intellectual capital of the Bitcoin development community in the case of the free alternative currencies you get in the course of hard-forks when ideological difference arise (as mentioned by John Pfeffer), but I do understand the logic in the sense that Bitcoin is still the mostly widely accepted with the largest network effects (by a large margin) and GBTC has had a rather large discount to NAV for some time now (though this was not always the case while FRMO was accumulating shares), so <em>iff</em> Bitcoin achieves some form of ultimate mainstream success mode, you could assume that it would <em>eventually</em> convert to a spot ETF and close that discount.</p><h3>HM Tech (HMT): Mining rig procurement, repairs, and hosting </h3><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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Do you think that ASICs are delivered to that mailbox?</figcaption></figure></div><p><strong>Mining rig procurement, repairs, and rig hosting</strong>, as well as mining for their own account (HashMaster (A.K.A. HK Tech LLC, A.K.A. HMT))</p><p>Not much to say about this one; Stahl covers HMT&#8217;s function within the Horizon Kinetics crypto mining complex well enough here:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>One is called HashMaster. We own, I think it&#8217;s 7.1%. Horizon Kinetics itself owns over 50%, so we obviously have a big stake in it. HashMaster does a number of things.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2022_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2022_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>It's our default mining site, so if we don't want to or we cannot or we find it disadvantageous to be in other sites, we can always retreat to HM Tech. We've done that more than once when we couldn't get terms that we needed, and of course HM Tech repairs our equipment. Also, there's some HM Tech mining for its own account. [&#8230;] <strong>We, ourselves, had equipment with hosting companies that were having difficulties, but we had the strategic ability to send our equipment to HM Tech</strong>. [&#8230;] When you run your mining machinery at another mining or hosting company, you have to buy electric power on their terms, effectively through them. <strong>But, because we control HM Tech, we can buy electric power on our terms, so that's a pretty good thing to have.</strong></em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Axn7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab90c75c-eeea-483b-bca6-7c96b5dddc5e_1147x925.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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This too, is not about the mining per se, but what the mining economics do. They have a transformative attribute. When CMSC buys a mining server, it is essentially paid for with its mined bitcoin reserve. That server has an operating life of several years, after which it is no longer profitable to operate. <strong>The business objective is to have earned enough bitcoin by that time to have paid for the server and its operating expenses and to have some additional increment of a bitcoin left over. That is, through the process of mining, to turn a given quantity of bitcoin into a bigger quantity. A finite-life, fully-paid-for server is converted into an infinite-life coin with digital scarcity value</strong>. If that process continues over time, more and more bitcoin will accumulate on the balance sheet. At a certain point, that becomes interesting. [&#8230;] For ease of explanation, consider a bitcoin ETF that exists in a steady state mode&#8212;no money coming in for new purchases, and no requests for redemptions&#8212;so that it owns a constant number of bitcoins. Except that it can&#8217;t own a constant number. An equity or bond ETF extracts its fees from the dividend or interest payments. But there are no bitcoin dividends or interest. <strong>A bitcoin ETF would have to sell sufficient bitcoin to pay the fee, so the per-share number of bitcoin would be in constant decline. Over time, the cumulative difference would be impactful. An operating miner that &#8216;banks&#8217; its bitcoin earnings and accrues an evergreater balance sheet position, might be a superior vehicle</strong>. The potential market for such a vehicle could be very large.</em>&#8221; ~~~ Steve Bregman, <a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q2-23-Commentary_FINAL.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q2-23-Commentary_FINAL.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p><strong>In addition to S&amp;B&#8217;s / HK&#8217;s own internal mining efforts</strong>, they have also merged certain of those activities into a new company called Consensus Mining &amp; Seigniorage Corporation (CMSC) and is due to go public on the OTC Market&#8217;s OTCQX exchange tier around late 2023 early 2024.</p><blockquote><p><em>On December 1, 2021, two of the Company&#8217;s Other Investments, HK Cryptocurrency Mining, LLC (&#8220;HKCCM&#8221;) and HK Cryptocurrency Mining II, LLC (&#8220;HKCCM2&#8221;) merged into a newly created Delaware corporation named Consensus Mining &amp; Seigniorage Corporation (&#8220;CMSC&#8221;).</em> &#8212;- <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/10q/FRMO_Corp_Q3_2022.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/10q/FRMO_Corp_Q3_2022.pdf</a></p></blockquote><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>In the HK Cryptocurrency Mining LLC, the idea is to mine the cryptocurrency, then sell it that day. We accumulate the cash for a quarter, and then we pay it out as a dividend. <strong>Internally, we refer to that dividend as seigniorage, meaning we&#8217;re actually creating money&#8212;if you accept the idea that cryptocurrency is going to be money&#8212;and earning a margin on that</strong>.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2018_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2018_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p>I could find not information on what exactly HK Cryptocurrency Mining II does/did, but I assume it&#8217;s the side of CMSC that mines and <em>retains</em> Bitcoin on its own behalf given that HKCM I sells its BTC, while transcripts show that CMSC does still hold BTC as well.</p><p>While their offices are in New York, CMSC contracts with miner hosting services across the country &#8212;which allows them to mine only in locations and at times when power is cheapest&#8212; and I believe, as noted in the previous section, use HM Tech as their backup mining host when they are unable to run mining operations under more favorable conditions at other hosting sites.</p><p>One last thing I&#8217;d like to add re. CMSC: As further evidence of S&amp;B&#8217;s confidence in the mining operations and crypto space in general, it should be noted that while the initial investment in equipment for CMSC came from FRMO and HK, they never had CMSC repay that investment once the business actually started generating cash, but rather had FRMO and HK accept stock in the new company.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-29" href="#footnote-29" target="_self">29</a></p><p>.</p><p>More commentary on FRMO&#8217;s various larger crypto investments that I&#8217;ve just covered can be found here (especially in response to Questioner 7): <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p><p>By my calculations, adding in the direct BTC and LTC holdings, these crypto assets make up around 10-11% of FRMO&#8217;s <em>nominal</em> TBV at the time of my writing this (it should be noted that, aside from GBTC and WELX, these investments are not carried on FRMO&#8217;s financials marked to market). My own estimate is that their crypto assets are actually around 20% of their nominal TBV.</p><p>.</p><p>Michael Mauboussin's might say that FRMO&#8217;s emergently vertical approach here was prudent given that they were getting involved in the Bitcoin space in the very early innings (since 2017) of the industrialization scale that we have today. The very loosely coupled nature of how these individual businesses seem to interact allows them to also create value in a horizontal manner, by generally operating selling to external customers independently, yet without FRMO running the risk of outsourcing too early in this industry&#8217;s development (which is why I think of their operations as &#8220;vertically modular&#8221;)&#8230;</p><blockquote><p><em><strong>Firms that are vertically integrated dominate when industries are developing because the costs of coordination are so high.</strong> Consider the computer industry in 1980. Most computer companies were vertically integrated to ensure that their products would actually work.</em></p><p><em><strong>But as an industry develops, various components become modules. The process of modularization allows an industry to flip from vertical to horizontal.</strong> This happened in the computer industry by the mid-1990s. Modularization, which is not simple from an engineering standpoint, allows for standardization and the assembly of products off the shelf.</em></p><p><em>&#8212;- &#8220;<a href="https://research-doc.credit-suisse.com/docView?language=ENG&amp;format=PDF&amp;sourceid=csplusresearchcp&amp;document_id=1066439791&amp;serialid=4uA2wHojCvFKzqWfwIyDvkSN1pkXRpb43LvyclLcJsk%3D&amp;cspId=null">Measuring the Moat</a>&#8221; (2016), Michael Mauboussin</em></p></blockquote><p>Indeed, there existed a non-trivial cost of coordination in the Bitcoin mining industry as FRMO was building it&#8217;s Bitcoin business. In recalling the creation of the mining LLC that were later merged to form Consensus Mining &amp; Seigniorage Corporation (CMSC), Stahl noted their practice of having to make sure that the mining equipment they received actually functioned &#8212;or was configured&#8212; properly:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>[W]e made it a practice that if we&#8217;re going to buy mining equipment, Horizon itself, not FRMO, would by the mining equipment on behalf of the crypto funds, then use it for a month or so, <strong>taking on the risk that sometimes you don&#8217;t get such great equipment. After a month we&#8217;re satisfied that it&#8217;s good, and we would transfer it to the mining LLCs</strong>, and then they would pay us because we laid out the money.&#8221;</em></p><p><em>[&#8230;]</em></p><p><em>&#8220;<strong>Another kind of risk: a shipment of equipment we bought contained a virus. That&#8217;s something one should checked upon delivery, and we did check, but we missed that.</strong> The virus was placed there intentionally. The purpose of the virus was to steal, if I recall, 15%-20% of the cryptocurrency you mined daily. It was a small enough number that you might not notice it if you didn&#8217;t pay close attention.&#8221;</em></p><p><em>[&#8230;]</em></p><p>&#8220;<em>[Y]ou should know that if you buy $10 million of equipment at a moment in time and you bought wrong&#8212;at the wrong moment&#8212;you&#8217;ve got a serious problem on your hands. That&#8217;s happened to a lot miners. We didn&#8217;t want that experience, so our intention as to buy in small lots. That way, if a purchase was problematic, and there have been such instances, it wouldn&#8217;t rise to the level of affecting the overall business profitability.</em>&#8221;</p><p>&#8212;- <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2022_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2022_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p>.</p><p>While there are other small hints of this kind of thinking across the FRMO earning calls, I&#8217;m not sure that the structure here was so much for the explicit purpose of vertical integration due to any kind of uneconomic cost-of-coordination, but rather more as a form of dollar (and labor/attention) cost averaging into the various crypto/Bitcoin sub-industries to experiment with where value could best be captured in the emerging industry...</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>The obvious advantage of this scaling approach to investing in cryptocurrencies is that the investments are rather small and, in the event of failure, the FRMO balance sheet would not experience structural damage. [&#8230;] New asset classes are a learning experience for everyone.</strong> If expanded in a gradual, deliberate manner, every employee in all of Horizon Kinetics can have the opportunity to develop new knowledge and skills in an environment free from the pressure of substantial loss of capital. The existing businesses continue much as before. Thus, in the event of an individual project failure, employees are at liberty to return to their former responsibilities, or perhaps transfer to another related more successful project.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <em><a href="https://frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2019.pdf">https://frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2019.pdf</a></em></p></blockquote><p>... <strong>What this does do is make FRMO the most responsibly managed (and management-aligned) diversified Bitcoin-industry &#8220;fund&#8221; that I can think of.</strong></p><p>.</p><p>This process that Stahl and Bregman used to build out their Bitcoin operations once he had read the Bitcoin whitepaper and concluded that Bitcoin would be extremely valuable &#8212;in success mode&#8212; reminds me a lot of, Y-Combinator founder, Paul Graham&#8217;s essay on &#8220;<em><a href="http://www.paulgraham.com/greatwork.html">How To Do Great Work</a></em>&#8221;:</p><blockquote><p><em>Though it sounds more responsible to begin by studying everything that's been done before, you'll learn faster and have more fun by trying stuff. And you'll understand previous work better when you do look at it. <strong>So err on the side of starting. Which is easier when starting means starting small; those two ideas fit together like two puzzle pieces.</strong></em></p><p><em>[&#8230;]</em></p><p><em><strong>Doing great work is a depth-first search</strong> whose root node is the desire to. So "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again" isn't quite right. <strong>It should be: If at first you don't succeed, either try again, or backtrack and then try again</strong>.<br><br>"Never give up" is also not quite right. Obviously there are times when it's the right choice to eject. A more precise version would be: Never let setbacks panic you into backtracking more than you need to. Corollary: Never abandon the root node.</em></p></blockquote><p>Stahl mentions in the Q3FY2023 earnings call that they had to learn and move slowly into the Bitcoin space as there were no text books on the business and economics of the crypto industry at the time that you could turn to in order to fast-track or blueprint your entry &#8212;if there were, it would also likely have had to of been an already-mature (read as &#8220;competitive&#8221;) industry and FRMO might thus not have even been interested in pursuing any big investment plans in that area in the first place.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!RhmT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcfc0506d-8ec5-46f3-8a8e-29e24f8571f1_260x260.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">FRMO in search of Bitcoin&#8217;s value-retaining segments (and who knows how many dead-end paths were explored that did not result in any actual investments)</figcaption></figure></div><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>If you don&#8217;t mind being wrong on the way to being right, you will learn a lot.</em>&#8221; ~~~ Ray Dalio, &#8220;Hedge Fund Market Wizards&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>And it&#8217;s not just Digital Currency Group. It's every company in crypto, with the exception of us</strong>. [&#8230;] Lots of companies threw a lot of capital at something that they ought not to have thrown a lot of capital at, and we had a completely different strategy.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Murray Stahl, <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p>FRMO&#8217;s in-house repair business (which extended existing rig life), incremental/stepwise/dollar-cost-averaging capital allocation strategy, and lack of dollar debt in their operations (thus avoiding tying <em>timed</em> USD obligations and USD/BTC pricing volatility to their BTC mine-&amp;-<em>HODL</em> operations) allowed them to come out of the 2022 &#8220;crypto winter&#8221; basically unscathed. </p><p>Other BTC miners were not so prudent and, as mentioned, took out USD loans to invest heavily in BTC mining equipment, encouraged by the boom in 2021, and found themselves struggling to meet those obligations when the Fed started its drastic interest rate hikes in 2022 and the FTX scandal crashed the broader market price of the BTC they were mining in &#8216;Bitcoin land&#8217; to sell back to &#8216;fiat land&#8217;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-30" href="#footnote-30" target="_self">30</a> &#8212;not to mention that all of this investment was being carried out with the Bitcoin mining reward &#8220;halving&#8221; coming up around mid 2024, which threatened to make much of these current generation rigs about 50% less profitable just on that fact alone.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-31" href="#footnote-31" target="_self">31</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jw_0!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb629d81-d26f-4bb2-8373-d776b2a11f14_360x202.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jw_0!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb629d81-d26f-4bb2-8373-d776b2a11f14_360x202.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jw_0!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb629d81-d26f-4bb2-8373-d776b2a11f14_360x202.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jw_0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb629d81-d26f-4bb2-8373-d776b2a11f14_360x202.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jw_0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb629d81-d26f-4bb2-8373-d776b2a11f14_360x202.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jw_0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb629d81-d26f-4bb2-8373-d776b2a11f14_360x202.gif" width="530" height="297.3888888888889" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fb629d81-d26f-4bb2-8373-d776b2a11f14_360x202.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:202,&quot;width&quot;:360,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:530,&quot;bytes&quot;:3621251,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/gif&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jw_0!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb629d81-d26f-4bb2-8373-d776b2a11f14_360x202.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jw_0!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb629d81-d26f-4bb2-8373-d776b2a11f14_360x202.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jw_0!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb629d81-d26f-4bb2-8373-d776b2a11f14_360x202.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jw_0!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffb629d81-d26f-4bb2-8373-d776b2a11f14_360x202.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h1>Two kinds of profitability: If you&#8217;re going to go outside the system, stay out</h1><p>As briefly mentioned earlier, Coinbase&#8217;s former CTO Balaji Srinivasan&#8217;s came up with the idea of &#8220;the network state&#8221; in his 2022 book by the same name and is a concept of a new type of political entity that is built on decentralized networks and enabled by technology, particularly that of blockchain and cryptocurrency (achieving a version Friedrich Hayek&#8217;s idea of privately issued currencies that compete in a free-er market of currencies than those offered by the oligopoly of traditional &#8216;fiat land&#8217; countries). The network state is seen as a successor to the traditional nation-state, which is based on centralized power structures and physical borders; built on decentralized networks that are not limited by physical borders and can be accessed by anyone with an internet connection. The fundamental concept behind the network state is to assemble a digital community and organize it to crowdfund physical territory and it&#8217;s own accepted currency. The book essentially acts as a blueprint for bootstraping the foundations of a new kind of &#8220;country.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-32" href="#footnote-32" target="_self">32</a> </p><p>I find Balaji&#8217;s concept, on the whole, as seeming a bit naive and Utopian (a kind with the odd flavor of libertarian tech-bro wordcels)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-33" href="#footnote-33" target="_self">33</a>, but the general idea is a useful mental model when thinking about Bitcoin and its allies; I think I&#8217;d more readily bet on something more like a &#8220;<em>network culture</em>&#8221; than a &#8220;<em>network state</em>&#8221; and is closer to how I think about it in my mind when I use the term.</p><p>I might phrase Stahl&#8217;s BTC-accumulating operations like this: If your genuinely bullish on the longterm success of the decentralized &#8220;<em>network state/culture</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-34" href="#footnote-34" target="_self">34</a> of &#8216;Bitcoin-land&#8217; and the digital scarcity thesis, why would you want to convert the profits from your Bitcoin-land operations back to the ever-debasing currency of &#8216;fiat-land&#8217;? </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vbz2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd285fa20-1190-43f9-9a96-ba638fe948f2_400x171.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vbz2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd285fa20-1190-43f9-9a96-ba638fe948f2_400x171.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vbz2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd285fa20-1190-43f9-9a96-ba638fe948f2_400x171.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vbz2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd285fa20-1190-43f9-9a96-ba638fe948f2_400x171.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vbz2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd285fa20-1190-43f9-9a96-ba638fe948f2_400x171.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vbz2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd285fa20-1190-43f9-9a96-ba638fe948f2_400x171.gif" width="560" height="239.4" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d285fa20-1190-43f9-9a96-ba638fe948f2_400x171.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:171,&quot;width&quot;:400,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:560,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;YARN | - Let me give you... - I don't want your slutty money. | Crazy  Stupid Love (2011) | Video clips by quotes | 3ed1380d | &#32023;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="YARN | - Let me give you... - I don't want your slutty money. | Crazy  Stupid Love (2011) | Video clips by quotes | 3ed1380d | &#32023;" title="YARN | - Let me give you... - I don't want your slutty money. | Crazy  Stupid Love (2011) | Video clips by quotes | 3ed1380d | &#32023;" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vbz2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd285fa20-1190-43f9-9a96-ba638fe948f2_400x171.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vbz2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd285fa20-1190-43f9-9a96-ba638fe948f2_400x171.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vbz2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd285fa20-1190-43f9-9a96-ba638fe948f2_400x171.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vbz2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd285fa20-1190-43f9-9a96-ba638fe948f2_400x171.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>My second reason the crypto mining companies got in trouble is by ignoring the whole point, the purpose of crypto. The whole purpose of crypto is to be outside of the dollar/fiat currency system.</strong> If you want to be outside of the that system and calculate everything in your business operations in bitcoin, then why would you reenter the dollar system to fund investments and be subject to the mutability of the dollar, even though you think in the long run bitcoin will do better than the dollar?</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Stahl&#8217;s response to Questioner 15, https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</p></blockquote><p>It should also be noted that, per the Q3FY2023 earnings call, 1) FRMO buys their mining rigs using BTC, not USD, and 2) they run their operations with little to no debt. I&#8217;m not sure how common this first part is/isn&#8217;t among BTC miners in general, but FRMO&#8217;s differentiation from other miners in the latter sense is self evident at this point. So, their mining operations run parallel to the dollar system; they pay for assets in BTC and get a return in BTC. Aside from energy costs, USD pricing volatility of BTC does not matter as much to their mining economics; it&#8217;s not about EPS, but about &#8216;BPS&#8217;; about BTC RoA; not about ROIC, but about &#8216;ROIB&#8217;. No &#8220;foreign&#8221; exchange risk. (<em>Someone should ask them to report their Bitcoin operations separately using only BTC</em>).</p><p>For example, BITMAIN is one of the world&#8217;s largest manufactures of ASIC mining rigs. I went to their website and clicked on a random product listing on the front page. Notice the various payment options, which include payment in BTC. This applies to all of the rigs on the site that I clicked on.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-35" href="#footnote-35" target="_self">35</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!362k!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F185558d2-986d-4535-a28d-548f9b21b621_1129x556.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!362k!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F185558d2-986d-4535-a28d-548f9b21b621_1129x556.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<a href="https://www.bitmain.com/">https://www.bitmain.com/</a>)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-36" href="#footnote-36" target="_self">36</a></p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20230908: On the 2023 FRMO annual earnings call I submitted a question relating to the apparent superfluousness of paying in BTC vs USD given that mining rigs (like the on shown above) are all priced in USD. Stahl claimed that the decision by FRMO is pay in BTC is not a company policy, but a requirement by manufactures that they get paid in BTC. Yet, clearly, it can be seen that BITMAIN accepts USD payment (as can be seen in the payment options in the image above) and is further detailed <a href="https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360008790194?input_string=question+about+payment+options+for">on their website</a>. I will need to bring this up again at the next earnings call. </em>**********</p><p>.</p><p>HK&#8217;s mining operations are not &#8216;<em>conceptually domiciled</em>&#8217; in the USA or even &#8216;<em>fiat land</em>&#8217; in general, but rather in the &#8220;<em>network state</em>&#8221; of &#8216;<em>Bitcoin land</em>&#8217;. Whether this developing &#8216;state&#8217; will ultimately become a fully accepted, respected (as Stahl seems to anticipate), and participating part of the wider global economy is presently to-be-determined, but that is the bet that HK is making here &#8212;and the context in which they&#8217;ve been sizing their investment position and incremental capital allocations. </p><p>There is a common argument that Bitcoin mining operations do not produce (and that BTC is not) a productive asset (as often stated by the Berkshire&#8217;s Buffet and Munger). In my opinion, is somewhat akin to being an investor in August 11, 1965, and saying that the tiny island nation with no natural resources, a &#8220;<em>malarial swamp with no assets</em>&#8221; (in Charlie Munger&#8217;s own words)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-37" href="#footnote-37" target="_self">37</a>, making up the economy of Singapore was worthless and did not represent any material productive assets; today Singapore is the leading financial centre in the Asia-Pacific. Stahl seems to believe that, in time, &#8216;Bitcoin land&#8217; and BTC will similarly be seen as as good as &#8212;really, better than&#8212; gold or any other fiat currency in &#8216;fiat land&#8217;.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M6OD!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F013e6aae-6c97-4ca5-b1f7-9c5d0b76d98b_1325x427.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!M6OD!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F013e6aae-6c97-4ca5-b1f7-9c5d0b76d98b_1325x427.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<a href="https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=18OUJ">https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=18OUJ</a>)</p><p>.</p><p>For further reading, a lot on this idea and how other miners got in trouble in 2022 is covered by Stahl in response to &#8220;Questioner 15&#8221; in the Q2FY2023 FRMO <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">earnings call</a>.</p><p>.</p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20240414: Lest anyone think that I&#8217;m purely a cheerleader for FRMO or the manner in which they&#8217;ve executed their Bitcoin business build-out, here are some specifically Bitcoin-related criticisms of FRMO:</em></p><ul><li><p><em>Looking at the latest reports from Winland, they mined 56 BTC in 2021, 71 BTC in 2022, and only an additional net 75 BTC in 2023 due to selling of&nbsp;units in that year.&nbsp;Given management's past comments on the benefits of&nbsp;an operating Bitcoin miner that banks its bitcoin earnings and accrues that to its balance sheet vs spot ETFs that must ultimately sell portions of their holdings, why did Winland, which is effectively run by Horizon Kinetics, sell the majority of the BTC it mined in 2023, which ultimately resulted in realized losses on sales of Bitcoin per Winland's most recent annual report (Note 17)?&nbsp;How should shareholders think about the rate of accumulation of Bitcoin at Winland</em></p><ul><li><p><em><a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/395999/content">https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/395999/content</a>&nbsp;(see&nbsp;Note 17)</em></p></li></ul></li><li><p><em>In the past, management has&nbsp;mentioned that one of the main&nbsp;benefits of an asset-light hard asset company is the ability to invest counter-cyclically vs the wider industry that&nbsp;the asset-light hard asset company may be a part of. Perhaps I'm mistaken on this, but FRMO did not appear to make significant investments during the 2020 COVID market shocks nor in the 2022 crypto winter, despite the company's strong balance sheet. In 2020 management commented in a quarterly meeting that they did not see any opportunities to buy a whole operating business, yet Winland appears to be the target for that purpose and has been in FRMO's portfolio since around 2015. Why didn't FRMO use it's large cash balance in the depths of the 2022 crypto winter to finish buying out a majority stake in Winland? It does not appear as if doing so would have been a mutually exclusive contradictory decision to FRMO's stepwise strategy in buying new mining equipment. What kind of event would spur management into using the cash balance at the company if not a global economic shutdown or a 2008-moment in the crypto&nbsp;industry? It would have seemed that buying up the rest of a targeted&nbsp;51% stake in Winland would have been only a small portion of FRMO's cash balance in the recent crypto winter.</em></p></li><li><p><em>Given the small relative marketcap scale of Winland&nbsp;vs FRMO, what is management's goal in rolling FRMO into Winland&nbsp;as an operating business vs doing crypto mining at FRMO itself at a scale commensurate with FRMO's size?&nbsp;Winland presently makes up around 2% of FRMO's total assets. How would this ever be of material value to FRMO?</em></p></li><li><p><em>How does management think about the lack of clawbacks of BTC in the case of&nbsp;fraud&nbsp;and&nbsp;how that&nbsp;hinders adoption? By this I don't mean the Bitcoin blockchain being hacked, but rather the much more frequent occurrences&nbsp;of people having their Bitcoin seed phrases, addresses, private keys, and subsequently&nbsp;their BTC itself stolen from them by tricking them into thinking they are a legitimate entity, hacking the user's personal computer, some other form of trickery, or just happening to see them entering their seed phrase on a wallet over their shoulder at a coffee shop. When it comes to adoption, despite&nbsp;its&nbsp;over 10 years of development, Bitcoin appears to leave little room for error and no consumer protections which makes it hard to imagine how mainstream Bitcoin adoption would&nbsp;work. Asked another way: Suppose one of the US Federal Reserve banks wanted to publicly hold Bitcoin and asked Horizon Kinetics to advise on how that Bitcoin should be received, stored, secured, and possibly transferred at a later time. How would you advise the Fed? How would you advise a household? With a lack of clawbacks, every storage mechanism and smart contract is just a bug bounty reward waiting for someone to discover code or social engineering that breaks it.</em></p></li></ul><p>**********</p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20240602: You can see Stahl&#8217;s response to these questions in the FY2024Q3 conference call here (starting at Questioner 14): <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2024_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2024_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></em> **********</p><p>.</p><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! Leave a comment if there&#8217;s anything I should clarify or correct and subscribe for free to receive new posts.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://blockworks.co/news/grayscale-appears-to-win-opening-sec">https://blockworks.co/news/grayscale-appears-to-win-opening-sec</a></p><p><a href="https://cryptoslate.com/court-decision-on-grayscale-v-sec-lawsuit-could-prove-crucial-for-all-spot-bitcoin-etf-applicants/">https://cryptoslate.com/court-decision-on-grayscale-v-sec-lawsuit-could-prove-crucial-for-all-spot-bitcoin-etf-applicants/</a></p><p><a href="https://beincrypto.com/grayscale-bitcoin-etf-sec-analysts/">https://beincrypto.com/grayscale-bitcoin-etf-sec-analysts/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/07/18/us-spot-bitcoin-etf-approval-clock-to-start-wednesday-as-8-applicants-named-on-federal-register/">https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/07/18/us-spot-bitcoin-etf-approval-clock-to-start-wednesday-as-8-applicants-named-on-federal-register/</a></p><p><a href="https://decrypt.co/62912/high-profile-bitcoin-etf-applications">https://decrypt.co/62912/high-profile-bitcoin-etf-applications</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-oldest-bank-bny-mellon-will-hold-that-crypto-now-11665460354">https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-oldest-bank-bny-mellon-will-hold-that-crypto-now-11665460354</a></p><p><a href="https://archive.li/JcZp3">https://archive.li/JcZp3</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Stahl is a director of the Bermuda Stock Exchange and of the Minneapolis Grain Exchange. </p><p><a href="https://www.bsx.com/the-bsx-organisation-structure">https://www.bsx.com/the-bsx-organisation-structure</a></p><p><a href="https://www.mgex.com/board.html">https://www.mgex.com/board.html</a></p><p><a href="https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/miami-international-holdings-chairman-and-ceo-thomas-p-gallagher-elected-to-mgex-board-of-directors-300933024.html">https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/miami-international-holdings-chairman-and-ceo-thomas-p-gallagher-elected-to-mgex-board-of-directors-300933024.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/miami-international-holdings-and-lukka-enter-into-strategic-alliance-to-jointly-develop-and-launch-crypto-derivatives-301563986.html">https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/miami-international-holdings-and-lukka-enter-into-strategic-alliance-to-jointly-develop-and-launch-crypto-derivatives-301563986.html</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tradersmagazine.com/departments/digital-assets/miax-and-midchains-join-for-crypto-digital-products/">https://www.tradersmagazine.com/departments/digital-assets/miax-and-midchains-join-for-crypto-digital-products/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/miami-international-completes-50m-takeover-of-ledgerx-from-ftx/">https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/miami-international-completes-50m-takeover-of-ledgerx-from-ftx/</a></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>There are only a handful of big exchanges with futures and clearing licenses. I mentioned only a tiny subset of the types of products that are possible. There are more products conceivable than all the exchanges, with all their technology put together, can handle at the moment. It's going to be just an incredible experience.</em>&#8221; --- <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2022-78">https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2022-78</a></p><p><a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/sec-to-hire-more-crypto-cops-to-fight-digital-frauds-11651568403">https://www.wsj.com/articles/sec-to-hire-more-crypto-cops-to-fight-digital-frauds-11651568403</a></p><p><a href="https://cointelegraph.com/news/industry-experts-weigh-in-on-sec-hiring-more-crypto-cops">https://cointelegraph.com/news/industry-experts-weigh-in-on-sec-hiring-more-crypto-cops</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/advisor/in/investing/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-prediction/">https://www.forbes.com/advisor/in/investing/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-prediction/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://apnews.com/article/why-is-turkeys-currency-falling-erdogan-1faf7d58144fc84479c251c3fdeabe2a">https://apnews.com/article/why-is-turkeys-currency-falling-erdogan-1faf7d58144fc84479c251c3fdeabe2a</a></p><p><a href="https://www.euronews.com/2022/11/09/everything-is-overheating-why-is-turkeys-economy-in-such-a-mess">https://www.euronews.com/2022/11/09/everything-is-overheating-why-is-turkeys-economy-in-such-a-mess</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/what-went-wrong-with-ftx-6828447">https://www.investopedia.com/what-went-wrong-with-ftx-6828447</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://apnews.com/article/cryptocurrency-technology-financial-services-bankruptcy-bitcoin-f7d97ff9cc12afc1fd845648b5f13ea7">https://apnews.com/article/cryptocurrency-technology-financial-services-bankruptcy-bitcoin-f7d97ff9cc12afc1fd845648b5f13ea7</a></p><p><a href="https://www.coindesk.com/layer2/2022/07/12/satoshi-wept-how-crypto-replayed-the-2008-financial-crisis/">https://www.coindesk.com/layer2/2022/07/12/satoshi-wept-how-crypto-replayed-the-2008-financial-crisis/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/16/federal-reserve-meeting.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/16/federal-reserve-meeting.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/currencies/crypto-ftx-collapse-fed-rate-hikes-federal-reserve-bankruptcy-bitcoin-2022-11https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/currencies/crypto-ftx-collapse-fed-rate-hikes-federal-reserve-bankruptcy-bitcoin-2022-11">https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/currencies/crypto-ftx-collapse-fed-rate-hikes-federal-reserve-bankruptcy-bitcoin-2022-11</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/colinharper/2022/11/18/ftx-fallout-pushes-bitcoin-mining-revenue-to-all-time-lows-threatens-more-firms-with-bankruptcy/?sh=63b78b415945">https://www.forbes.com/sites/colinharper/2022/11/18/ftx-fallout-pushes-bitcoin-mining-revenue-to-all-time-lows-threatens-more-firms-with-bankruptcy/?sh=63b78b415945</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2022/11/14/bitcoin-miner-balance-slides-as-ftx-collapse-weighs-over-crypto-prices/">https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2022/11/14/bitcoin-miner-balance-slides-as-ftx-collapse-weighs-over-crypto-prices/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bis.org/publ/bisbull69.pdf">https://www.bis.org/publ/bisbull69.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/20/bitcoin-miner-core-scientific-filing-for-bankruptcy-will-keep-mining.html">https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/20/bitcoin-miner-core-scientific-filing-for-bankruptcy-will-keep-mining.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I&#8217;d note that I checked the old Goldcorp filings (see <a href="https://www.sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=919239">https://www.sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=919239</a>) (before the 2019 merger with Newmont) and could not actually find any evidence that they held any gold on their balance sheet as a part of their treasury (vs as finished goods, work-in-process, heap leach ore, and stockpiled ore), so IDK exactly what Stahl is referring to here.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://tpltblog.com/2022/11/23/back-to-delaware/">https://tpltblog.com/2022/11/23/back-to-delaware/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;<em>First, when we control a company we get to allocate capital, whereas we are likely to have little or nothing to say about this process with marketable holdings. This point can be important because the heads of many companies are not skilled in capital allocation. Their inadequacy is not surprising. Most bosses rise to the top because they have excelled in an area such as marketing, production, engineering, administration-or, sometimes, institutional politics [&#8230;] The areas I get involved in are capital allocation and selection and compensation of the top man. Other personnel decisions, operating strategies, etc. are his [the CEO&#8217;s] bailiwick.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Warren Buffett in &#8220;Essays of Warren Buffett&#8221; by Lawrence Cunningham</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>TBH, when I look at Winland&#8217;s history, I&#8217;d have to admit that I think that their acquiring of Mt.Gox Bitcoin claims was likely more due to the encouragement of  director Thomas Braziel (co-founder and managing partner of 507 Capital) then anyone from HK. See <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/mt-gox-surprising-redemption-bitcoin-190418425.html">https://www.yahoo.com/news/mt-gox-surprising-redemption-bitcoin-190418425.html</a>; <a href="https://507capital.com/mtgox/">https://507capital.com/mtgox/</a>.</p><p>Winland terminated it&#8217;s CEO in November 15, 2013 (<a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/133577/content">https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/133577/content</a>) and I do not see any sign of a CEO at the company until the company&#8217;s restructuring in 2018 when Winland Electronics changed to Winland Holdings and it was determined that &#8220;<em>Thomas Braziel and Matthew Houk [a Horizon Kinetics employee] will serve as Co-Chairmen and Co-Chief Executive Officers of the Company.</em>&#8221; They had both been directors since 2013 (<a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/190095/content">https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/190095/content</a>). The CEO title is later only assigned to Houk starting in the 2021 annual report (<a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/325275/content">https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/325275/content</a>) with Braziel apparently stepping down while running the Winland Credit arm under his 507 Capital under a 1.5-and-20 management/performance agreement &#8212;presumably looking for more opportunities to invest in distressed (crypto) debt (of which there may be a fresh batch of opportunities coming out of 2022; <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/crypto-bankruptcy-markets-thriving-ftx-collapse/">https://www.wired.com/story/crypto-bankruptcy-markets-thriving-ftx-collapse/</a>).  </p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-20" href="#footnote-anchor-20" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">20</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I&#8217;d also say that I don&#8217;t usually make a big fuss about &#8220;price&#8221; volatility when the underlying economics of the business are still good <em>and especially when they are still paying me a dividend from such </em>(which unfortunately FRMO does not do); from a bond/coupon POV, I just want to see a good yield-on-cost in the long run compared to the effective Fed Fund rate; ultimately, the time-weighted <em>income</em> you end up with is what really matters and I like to diversify that across time by getting back some of the value generated by the business up front. </p><p>What really gets me on tilt about pricing vol in this case is &#8212;aside from the natural thought of &#8220;OMG what did I miss about the investment thesis&#8221;&#8212; the retroactive face-palming when I see in those cases that I could have gotten the affected company at a significantly lower price than I initially paid when I&#8217;m already at a full position in that stock.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" 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href="https://blog.wizsec.jp/2021/02/mtgox-claim-calculator.html; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Gox">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Gox</a>; <a href="https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2021/01/15/mt-gox-creditors-can-claim-90-of-bitcoin-left-in-bankruptcy-bloomberg/">https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2021/01/15/mt-gox-creditors-can-claim-90-of-bitcoin-left-in-bankruptcy-bloomberg/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/ftx-with-sam-bankman-fried-mario-gabriele">https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/ftx-with-sam-bankman-fried-mario-gabriele</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/bitcoin">https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/bitcoin</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-24" href="#footnote-anchor-24" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">24</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>While some attribute Bitcoin&#8217;s historical tendency to rise after halving events simply to hype (<a href="https://money.com/will-bitcoin-halving-cause-cryptos-price-to-soar/">https://money.com/will-bitcoin-halving-cause-cryptos-price-to-soar/</a>), Stahl believes that the correlation is more fundamentals-based, having to do with the economics of mining Bitcoin (and its relationship to the alternative BTC-accumulation method of simply buying BTC in the market) which strongly centers around the predictable block reward halvings and its effects on the profitability of past- and current-generation rigs. </p><p><a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a>, pg.5-6</p><p><a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/MINING-ECONOMICS-WHAT-DRIVES-THE-BITCOIN-PRICE_Sep-2022_Final-1.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/MINING-ECONOMICS-WHAT-DRIVES-THE-BITCOIN-PRICE_Sep-2022_Final-1.pdf</a></p><p>  </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-25" href="#footnote-anchor-25" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">25</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.yahoo.com/now/crypto-conglomerate-digital-currency-group-200707540.html">https://www.yahoo.com/now/crypto-conglomerate-digital-currency-group-200707540.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-26" href="#footnote-anchor-26" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">26</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.cbinsights.com/company/digital-currency-group/financials">https://www.cbinsights.com/company/digital-currency-group/financials</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-27" href="#footnote-anchor-27" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">27</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>IDK if my calculations are right here. In the <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021.pdf">2021 letter</a>, Stahl notes that they own 0.05% of DCG&#8217;s SO. At an equity value of $2.2bn that would be a value of $1.1MM for FRMO (x1.77, that&#8217;s $1.947MM). Where is that report getting that per share value from? Did FRMO just get diluted from the &#8220;<em>issuance to Genesis Capital creditors of a new class of DCG redeemable, convertible preferred stock</em>&#8221; from that article?</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-28" href="#footnote-anchor-28" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">28</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Despite the corny title, the book is very interesting and one of the only books I know of (other than Maurice Schiller&#8217;s) that is so heavily focused on special-situation or event-drive investing.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-29" href="#footnote-anchor-29" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">29</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2022_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2022_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a>, pg.13</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-30" href="#footnote-anchor-30" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">30</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-30/crypto-lenders-woes-worsen-as-bitcoin-btc-miners-struggle-to-repay-debt">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-30/crypto-lenders-woes-worsen-as-bitcoin-btc-miners-struggle-to-repay-debt</a>; <a href="https://archive.li/vrtST">https://archive.li/vrtST</a></p><p><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/colinharper/2022/12/23/bitcoin-mining-in-2022-the-year-boom-turned-to-bust/">https://www.forbes.com/sites/colinharper/2022/12/23/bitcoin-mining-in-2022-the-year-boom-turned-to-bust/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-31" href="#footnote-anchor-31" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">31</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Though this might not have been such a big deal at the time since, as Stahl himself even mentions, the actual useful life of this equipment tends to be around a depreciation schedule of 3 years.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-32" href="#footnote-anchor-32" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">32</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://thenetworkstate.com/">https://thenetworkstate.com/</a></p><p><a href="https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/the-network-state-by-balaji-srinivasan-how-to-start-a-digital-country">https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/the-network-state-by-balaji-srinivasan-how-to-start-a-digital-country</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-33" href="#footnote-anchor-33" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">33</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>An interesting critique of Balaji&#8217;s idea can be found here: <a href="https://www.protocol.com/policy/srinivasan-network-state">https://www.protocol.com/policy/srinivasan-network-state</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-34" href="#footnote-anchor-34" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">34</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Taking the term here from former Coinbase CTO, Balaji Srinivasan, though I use it in a somewhat less strict sense than he appears to think of it in his book (<a href="https://thenetworkstate.com/">https://thenetworkstate.com/</a>).</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-35" href="#footnote-anchor-35" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">35</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Though I&#8217;d note that these rigs all appears to still be <em>priced</em> in dollars, not BTC, so Stahl&#8217;s argument has some holes I&#8217;ll have to ask about in the next earnings call.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-36" href="#footnote-anchor-36" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">36</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>See <a href="https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360008790194?input_string=question+about+payment+options+for">https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360008790194?input_string=question+about+payment+options+for</a> and <a href="https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/221001627-How-to-order-and-pay-">https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/221001627-How-to-order-and-pay-</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-37" href="#footnote-anchor-37" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">37</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.yapss.com/post/collection-charlie-munger-263-lee-kuan-yew-and-singapore-s-success">https://www.yapss.com/post/collection-charlie-munger-263-lee-kuan-yew-and-singapore-s-success</a></p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Portfolio Review 2023063, semi-annual]]></title><description><![CDATA[Is that my portfolio or is that the MSCI Small Cap index? Yes.]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/portfolio-review-20230631</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/portfolio-review-20230631</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2023 07:01:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca3adcf1-980e-4dbf-9311-2385a37afcb9_888x499.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Cz-m!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe1438b59-7416-47c0-8e38-d0ff6520b4d4_507x512.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DjUn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca3adcf1-980e-4dbf-9311-2385a37afcb9_888x499.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DjUn!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca3adcf1-980e-4dbf-9311-2385a37afcb9_888x499.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DjUn!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca3adcf1-980e-4dbf-9311-2385a37afcb9_888x499.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DjUn!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca3adcf1-980e-4dbf-9311-2385a37afcb9_888x499.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DjUn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca3adcf1-980e-4dbf-9311-2385a37afcb9_888x499.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DjUn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca3adcf1-980e-4dbf-9311-2385a37afcb9_888x499.jpeg" width="888" height="499" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ca3adcf1-980e-4dbf-9311-2385a37afcb9_888x499.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:499,&quot;width&quot;:888,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:77724,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/jpeg&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!DjUn!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fca3adcf1-980e-4dbf-9311-2385a37afcb9_888x499.jpeg 424w, 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Pictured above: Radical honesty</figcaption></figure></div><h1>YTD returns</h1><p>These were the YTD returns on my investments:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R3Rw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdaa1a79c-351a-4072-b2b9-22120f38a356_1370x938.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R3Rw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdaa1a79c-351a-4072-b2b9-22120f38a356_1370x938.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This is about in line with the smallcap SPSM ETF and <a href="https://www.msci.com/documents/10199/e81a324f-063b-4143-9654-2cf04d474a57">MSCI EAFE Small Cap index</a> (5.89% YTD); though, given the makeup of this portfolio&#8217;s asset allocation, I suppose this should not be surprising:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZHXC!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d88bc53-5cb6-441c-81f9-8a6a8372e77a_2442x756.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZHXC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d88bc53-5cb6-441c-81f9-8a6a8372e77a_2442x756.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZHXC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d88bc53-5cb6-441c-81f9-8a6a8372e77a_2442x756.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZHXC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d88bc53-5cb6-441c-81f9-8a6a8372e77a_2442x756.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZHXC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d88bc53-5cb6-441c-81f9-8a6a8372e77a_2442x756.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZHXC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d88bc53-5cb6-441c-81f9-8a6a8372e77a_2442x756.png" width="1456" height="451" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3d88bc53-5cb6-441c-81f9-8a6a8372e77a_2442x756.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:451,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:347863,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZHXC!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d88bc53-5cb6-441c-81f9-8a6a8372e77a_2442x756.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZHXC!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d88bc53-5cb6-441c-81f9-8a6a8372e77a_2442x756.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZHXC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d88bc53-5cb6-441c-81f9-8a6a8372e77a_2442x756.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ZHXC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d88bc53-5cb6-441c-81f9-8a6a8372e77a_2442x756.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>And I&#8217;d also like to point out how I&#8217;m handicapping myself vs that index via my large money market allocation; regardless, I did do that willingly, so it&#8217;s ultimately on me. <strong>I&#8217;d also note that this return rate does not account for dividends and interest income that have been retained and not yet re-invested; this would put the YTD performance closer to around 8.6% (just calculating the overall portfolio balance total shareholder return YTD)</strong>.</em>)</p><p>Whether the portfolio YTD returned 5.5% or 8.6%, it&#8217;s hard to ignore the fact that it greatly underperformed the broader barometer of the S&amp;P 500 index. To that, I would just point out that the market&#8217;s performance thus far appears to be based solely on the performance of a few super-star stocks that are seen as befitting from AI &#8212;suddenly brought to wider attention by OpenAI&#8217;s ChatGPT LLM&#8212; and the FAANG regulars (and now with the addition of Tesla into the S&amp;P 500 index):</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WoTb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ed2906f-cdc3-470b-810f-762c36daa934_1510x1124.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WoTb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ed2906f-cdc3-470b-810f-762c36daa934_1510x1124.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WoTb!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ed2906f-cdc3-470b-810f-762c36daa934_1510x1124.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WoTb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ed2906f-cdc3-470b-810f-762c36daa934_1510x1124.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WoTb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ed2906f-cdc3-470b-810f-762c36daa934_1510x1124.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WoTb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ed2906f-cdc3-470b-810f-762c36daa934_1510x1124.jpeg" width="1456" height="1084" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0ed2906f-cdc3-470b-810f-762c36daa934_1510x1124.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1084,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Image&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Image" title="Image" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WoTb!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ed2906f-cdc3-470b-810f-762c36daa934_1510x1124.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WoTb!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ed2906f-cdc3-470b-810f-762c36daa934_1510x1124.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WoTb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ed2906f-cdc3-470b-810f-762c36daa934_1510x1124.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WoTb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0ed2906f-cdc3-470b-810f-762c36daa934_1510x1124.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://twitter.com/Growth_Value_/status/1661998139874713603?s=20">https://twitter.com/Growth_Value_/status/1661998139874713603?s=20</a></em>)</p><p>We can also look at the YTD performance of the S&amp;P 500 ex IT index to get a sense of how certain industry concentrations in the broad index have pulled up the rest of the market:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zzyc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F311bf2f6-7e97-4d1e-8505-d1274c030869_1738x394.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zzyc!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F311bf2f6-7e97-4d1e-8505-d1274c030869_1738x394.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zzyc!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F311bf2f6-7e97-4d1e-8505-d1274c030869_1738x394.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zzyc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F311bf2f6-7e97-4d1e-8505-d1274c030869_1738x394.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zzyc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F311bf2f6-7e97-4d1e-8505-d1274c030869_1738x394.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zzyc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F311bf2f6-7e97-4d1e-8505-d1274c030869_1738x394.png" width="1456" height="330" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zzyc!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F311bf2f6-7e97-4d1e-8505-d1274c030869_1738x394.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zzyc!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F311bf2f6-7e97-4d1e-8505-d1274c030869_1738x394.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Zzyc!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F311bf2f6-7e97-4d1e-8505-d1274c030869_1738x394.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.spglobal.com/spdji/en/indices/equity/sp-500-ex-information-technology/#overview">https://www.spglobal.com/spdji/en/indices/equity/sp-500-ex-information-technology/#overview</a>) </em></p><p>Note this ex-IT index still includes many &#8216;new economy&#8217; stocks that are conventionally considered &#8220;tech&#8221;, as most of the FAANGT is not formally considered to be a part of the IT sector; imagine if these were also removed.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bK75!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0351ebce-38fb-432f-8f8e-1b6f5616e6ad_996x461.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bK75!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0351ebce-38fb-432f-8f8e-1b6f5616e6ad_996x461.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bK75!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0351ebce-38fb-432f-8f8e-1b6f5616e6ad_996x461.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bK75!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0351ebce-38fb-432f-8f8e-1b6f5616e6ad_996x461.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bK75!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0351ebce-38fb-432f-8f8e-1b6f5616e6ad_996x461.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bK75!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0351ebce-38fb-432f-8f8e-1b6f5616e6ad_996x461.png" width="996" height="461" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0351ebce-38fb-432f-8f8e-1b6f5616e6ad_996x461.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:461,&quot;width&quot;:996,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:60878,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bK75!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0351ebce-38fb-432f-8f8e-1b6f5616e6ad_996x461.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bK75!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0351ebce-38fb-432f-8f8e-1b6f5616e6ad_996x461.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bK75!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0351ebce-38fb-432f-8f8e-1b6f5616e6ad_996x461.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bK75!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0351ebce-38fb-432f-8f8e-1b6f5616e6ad_996x461.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>This Barron&#8217;s article points out that&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8x98!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45a5b739-3123-455b-9a78-35efc62ba5c4_707x129.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8x98!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45a5b739-3123-455b-9a78-35efc62ba5c4_707x129.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8x98!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45a5b739-3123-455b-9a78-35efc62ba5c4_707x129.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8x98!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45a5b739-3123-455b-9a78-35efc62ba5c4_707x129.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8x98!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45a5b739-3123-455b-9a78-35efc62ba5c4_707x129.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8x98!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45a5b739-3123-455b-9a78-35efc62ba5c4_707x129.png" width="707" height="129" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/45a5b739-3123-455b-9a78-35efc62ba5c4_707x129.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:129,&quot;width&quot;:707,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:35730,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8x98!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45a5b739-3123-455b-9a78-35efc62ba5c4_707x129.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8x98!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45a5b739-3123-455b-9a78-35efc62ba5c4_707x129.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8x98!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45a5b739-3123-455b-9a78-35efc62ba5c4_707x129.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8x98!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45a5b739-3123-455b-9a78-35efc62ba5c4_707x129.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.barrons.com/articles/apple-tesla-nvidia-powell-fed-a0f06ba3">https://www.barrons.com/articles/apple-tesla-nvidia-powell-fed-a0f06ba3</a>; <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/m/b09d77be-8ca2-3a2e-b408-c43b97083678/apple%2C-tesla%2C-and-nvidia-have.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/m/b09d77be-8ca2-3a2e-b408-c43b97083678/apple%2C-tesla%2C-and-nvidia-have.html</a></em>)</p><p>&#8230; Meanwhile, these FAANGT, semicondustor, and &#8216;new economy&#8217; companies &#8212;for better of worse&#8212; are one of the smallest allocations in my own portfolio, though I did buy small amounts of Amazon and Google (a little more than 1pps each) during the market lows of late 2022.</p><p>Note that I don&#8217;t really have an opinion on the economy in general. In fact, while the S&amp;P&#8217;s performance can mainly be attributed to just a few key stocks,&#8230; </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CWoU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F688f6f43-90ce-4291-b814-17fc2d3b6a2f_1188x604.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CWoU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F688f6f43-90ce-4291-b814-17fc2d3b6a2f_1188x604.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CWoU!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F688f6f43-90ce-4291-b814-17fc2d3b6a2f_1188x604.png 848w, 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.yardeni.com/pub/breadth.pdf">https://www.yardeni.com/pub/breadth.pdf</a>)</em></p><p>.</p><p>My real issue with the S&amp;P 500 &#8212;despite the fact that it would appear I&#8217;d have been better off as a closeted SPY indexer (vs an apparent closeted SPSM indexer)&#8212; is that the stars of the index (the FAANGs and now Tesla and Nvidia) have already generally &#8216;emerged&#8217; and attracted commensurate attention and fund flows. At a simplistic level, their size and valuations don&#8217;t seem to leave a lot of room for great upside<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>; I <s>think</s> suspect there&#8217;s a lot of FOMO currently at play here as fund flows have attempted to chase AI-adjacent names in a dramatic way. </p><p><em>********** UPDATE 20230712: On the same day that I published this post, Horizon Kinetics released another paper as a part of their long-running &#8220;<a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Under-the-Hood_June-2023.pdf">Under The Hood: What&#8217;s In Your Index?</a>&#8221; series. Given my large concentration in various HK/Stahl-complex investment vehicles (FRMO and the RENN Fund), it should not be surprising that the paper goes over many of the same ideas I quickly touched on above.</em></p><blockquote><p><em>Moreover, the weight of money flows became a kind of limitation (but a limitation with side effects). <strong>Indexation&#8217;s marginal bid became focused on a narrower and narrower subset of the security universe, on those shares with the institutional-grade trading liquidity to absorb those flows. And, in a self-reinforcing cycle</strong>, that narrower subset of securities absorbed an ever-greater proportion of the ever-increasing inflows. This distorted valuations and index security and sector weights in ways that were de-linked from fundamental analysis and valuation. At least, those were some of the questions for debate at the time.  </em></p><p><em>[&#8230;] <strong>Another is the law-of-large-numbers limitation on the growth prospects of these companies</strong>, which is now showing up in revenue and earnings figures. The analytical exercise is to determine whether this slowdown is temporary or of a more permanent nature</em></p><p><em>[&#8230;] At some point, their continued expansion would render them so large that their growth rate should not be dissimilar from&#8212;that is, must converge downward toward&#8212;the growth rate of the overall economy, whether U.S. or global.</em></p><p><em>[&#8230;] So, the S&amp;P 500 is in something of a bind. If the technology giants&#8212;whose index weight is far higher than is represented by the current sector classifications&#8212;continue to grow, the <strong>S&amp;P 500 will indeed cease to be useful as an index</strong>. If the opposite happens, the index will <strong>embody a massive concentration of risk</strong> because there is no valuation margin of safety in the event of declining profits.</em></p></blockquote><p><em>Though I will note again, on that last point re. valuations, that it could be argued that many of these &#8220;new economy&#8221; giants have artificially high P/E ratios dues to the fact that certain portions of SG&amp;A and R&amp;D expenses that should rightly be capitalized and amortized over time &#8212;and thus improve their operating margins and earnings&#8212; are forced by GAAP standards to be expense all at once. (See <a href="https://distillatecapital.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/FAANG_Valuations_Distilled.pdf">https://distillatecapital.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/FAANG_Valuations_Distilled.pdf</a>)</em></p><p><em>**********</em></p><p>In a big-enough market dip, I&#8217;d be interested in Apple (more likely buying indirectly via Berkshire shares) and Amazon (even Tesla at the right price). I guess I&#8217;m just a bit skeptical about their continued multiple expansion and growth opportunities going forward vs smaller equities in sectors that presently have a much lesser share of fund flows than the existing S&amp;P 500 superstars that have percolated to the top of the index&#8217;s concentrations.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> The index&#8217;s current concentration bubble is just not something that I feel comfortable participating in. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wp-l!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b630f8-b6d3-4724-97b9-7c81d5e9628f_619x209.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wp-l!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b630f8-b6d3-4724-97b9-7c81d5e9628f_619x209.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wp-l!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b630f8-b6d3-4724-97b9-7c81d5e9628f_619x209.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wp-l!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b630f8-b6d3-4724-97b9-7c81d5e9628f_619x209.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wp-l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b630f8-b6d3-4724-97b9-7c81d5e9628f_619x209.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wp-l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b630f8-b6d3-4724-97b9-7c81d5e9628f_619x209.png" width="619" height="209" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a7b630f8-b6d3-4724-97b9-7c81d5e9628f_619x209.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:209,&quot;width&quot;:619,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:77035,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wp-l!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b630f8-b6d3-4724-97b9-7c81d5e9628f_619x209.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wp-l!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b630f8-b6d3-4724-97b9-7c81d5e9628f_619x209.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wp-l!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b630f8-b6d3-4724-97b9-7c81d5e9628f_619x209.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Wp-l!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7b630f8-b6d3-4724-97b9-7c81d5e9628f_619x209.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">&#8220;Against the Gods&#8221;, Peter L. Bernstein; <a href="https://www.google.com/books/edition/Against_the_Gods/G5TKA6B0pyEC?hl=en&amp;gbpv=0">https://www.google.com/books/edition/Against_the_Gods/G5TKA6B0pyEC?hl=en&amp;gbpv=0</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>In <a href="https://rady.ucsd.edu/_files/brandes/value-investing/brandes-institute-extreme-concentration-and-impact-on-strategy.pdf">a 2021 paper</a> from the Brandes Institute&#8217;s Barry Gillman, he notes that 1) the current S&amp;P Growth index concentration is the highest it&#8217;s been since the 2000&#8217;s dot-com bubble and 2) the Growth vs Value performance spread is the widest it&#8217;s been in 20 years.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!90Nv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffce96a23-9282-48d8-a212-061d36d1c92f_720x350.png" 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Recent manager underperformance may not reflect a lack of skill, but a mathematical circumstance. <strong>Growth managers may be benefiting from the wave of growth index outperformance (vs. value), but for them to outperform the growth index itself, they almost need to overweight the mega-cap stocks leading the charge</strong>. For managers with a stated process and an eye on risk management, such a tactic may be hard to do without violating internal disciplines. </em></p><p><em>Value managers may be able to outperform their value index, as the growth mega-stock spike is irrelevant for that comparison. <strong>But when benchmarked to the aggregate index (e.g., the S&amp;P 500 Index), any active management gains against the Value Index likely have been overwhelmed by value style [relative, overall] underperformance</strong>.</em></p><p><em>[&#8230;]</em></p><p><em>Investors typically focus on &#8220;top ten&#8221; as a concentration measure, but now the driver may be the top three or four, leading to &#8220;concentration within concentration.&#8221; This narrowing of concentration is important, as it has not happened in prior concentration peaks. <strong>The current narrowness leaves those indices exposed to significant idiosyncratic risk (i.e., the risk that just one or two of these mega-stocks drops sharply)</strong>.</em></p></blockquote><p>I&#8217;m fine &#8212;for now&#8212; eking out a return from outside of the indexation universe that has so far managed to beat the index in turbulent times and return above the 6%/yr watermark that Warren Buffett initially set for his old hedge fund that determined whether he&#8217;d be entitled to performance fees for that year</p><p>.</p><p>And who knows, maybe these businesses will continue to keep winning as the Lindy&#8217;ness of their business has already been proven out in these previous 10+ years. </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>For whoever has, to him more will be given, and he will have abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Matthew 13:12</p></blockquote><p>I am reminded of this Buffett quote:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Earlier I mentioned the financial results that could have been achieved by investing $40 in The Coca-Cola Co. in 1919. 19 In 1938, more than 50 years after the introduction of Coke, and long after the drink was firmly established as an American icon, Fortune did an excellent story on the company. In the second paragraph the writer reported: "Several times every year a weighty and serious investor looks long and with profound respect at Coca-Cola's record, but comes regretfully to the conclusion that he is looking too late. The specters of saturation and competition rise before him."&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Yes, competition there was in 1938 and in 1993 as well. But it's worth noting that in 1938 The Coca-Cola Co. sold 207 million cases of soft drinks (if its gallonage then is converted into the 192-ounce cases used for measurement today) and in 1993 it sold about 10.7 billion cases, a 50-fold increase in physical volume from a company that in 1938 was already dominant in its very major industry. Nor was the party over in 1938 for an investor: Though the $40 invested in 1919 in one share had (with dividends reinvested) turned into $3,277 by the end of 1938, a fresh $40 then invested in Coca-Cola stock would have grown to $25,000 by year end 1993</em>.&#8221; &#8212; The Essays of Warren Buffett</p></blockquote><p>&#8230; Or maybe Oaktree&#8217;s Howard Marks is right and we are in for a &#8220;<em><a href="https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/sea-change">sea change</a></em>&#8221; in the investing landscape; maybe the Shiller index is due for a correction.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8X9t!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2f65a7d2-3b4f-47c1-bbc7-149c9abc4b8f_1712x413.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.longtermtrends.net/sp500-price-earnings-shiller-pe-ratio/">https://www.longtermtrends.net/sp500-price-earnings-shiller-pe-ratio/</a></em>)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lVBb!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8bc73b1c-b2dc-491d-870f-297d5ef0deba_1200x675.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lVBb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8bc73b1c-b2dc-491d-870f-297d5ef0deba_1200x675.jpeg 424w, 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Using a slide from this presentation, I&#8217;d say my allocation across these options looks something like this: </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-WK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd04d366d-e162-46f1-bf49-cab2d9779582_1024x500.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-WK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd04d366d-e162-46f1-bf49-cab2d9779582_1024x500.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_-WK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd04d366d-e162-46f1-bf49-cab2d9779582_1024x500.jpeg 848w, 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I think that&#8217;s a bit similar to the policy I&#8217;m trying to impose on myself in a less drastic fashion here by disempowering the influence of the index&#8217;s aggregate numbers on my investing <s>decisions</s> emotions by keeping proper perspective on how the S&amp;P&#8217;s returns are being created &#8212;at the moment, from a very small concentration of (arguably overvalued) stocks all from within very similar business sectors.</p><h1>Top 10 holdings</h1><p>My top positions have not changed much since my previous portfolio update aside from some sporadic dollar cost averaging across weeks of increased market pessimism or lack-of-optimism and a few holdings that have naturally grown to a size where they are now worth mentioning.</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;d82cf123-27ad-488a-bf74-95cb2c375647&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;End of year returns Basically, this year, if you had just kept your money in a savings account (well&#8230; maybe more in sub-1yr bonds), you would have had a good chance at beating my portfolio &#8212;and the rest of the stock market for that matter; you could say that my portfolio generated an approximately 20% alpha. 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>Note that this only covers the portfolio equity holdings and does not include the ~25% cash and money market holdings.</em>)</p><p>Looking at the portfolio&#8217;s outsized sector allocations, I&#8217;ll list them here with a few of the major holdings in those buckets (as well as the economic quadrants(s) that I generally think of them as being beneficiaries of):</p><ul><li><p>Energy = BSM, VNOM, EPD, TPL, FRMO, RCG, et al (Stag/Growth-flation quads; 25%)</p></li><li><p>Industrials = APG, HQI, RBA, CACI, SAIC, IEP, TGH, PMD (Goldilocks quads; 30%)</p></li><li><p>Materials = ALB, UAN, WPM (Growth-flation; Goldilocks quads; 13%)</p></li><li><p>Financials = SCHW, OTCM, VIRT (Growth-flation; Goldilocks quads; 15%)</p></li><li><p>Cash = cash, MMFs, ultra-short bond funds (Stagflation; Recession quads; 25%)</p></li><li><p>Bitcoin = GBTC (Stagflation; 4%)</p></li></ul><p>Other than BSM, FRMO, RCG, HQI, SCHW, APG, and of course the money market allocation &#8212;and, due to the market reaction to recent events, GBTC&#8212; none of these individual positions are a much greater than a 3pps allocation in the portfolio. The reason is that I plan to let the portfolio run itself after making the initial decisions to add a position. This idea has to do with the concept of self-organizing criticality, which you can read more about in the link below:</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;f999bab5-c114-48e3-ba80-ef3ede7cbbd9&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;For several years I lived on a steep hillside in a decrepit summer cottage that had what a real estate agent called &#8220;charm.&#8221; Which meant it was a shack with a view. In keeping with the spirit of the house, I let the yard go &#8220;natural,&#8221; letting what wanted to be there be there and take care of itself without any help from me. I remember announcing from th&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;lg&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Like Weeds In A Garden: The Zen Of Managing A Portfolio Without Managing A Portfolio&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2023-05-25T20:17:06.862Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F97177b51-a93f-49c5-9776-338670b2dcd6_500x619.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/like-weeds-in-a-garden-the-zen-of&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:112948690,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>In aggregate, I think these stocks are generally pretty safe ways to diversify and allocate across these various economic environment possibilities as these companies are &#8212;for the most part&#8212; capex-light and generally have low debt ratios; the average Debt/Equity and Debt/EBITDA in the portfolio is just a bit less than 1x and the position-size-weighted means and medians are closer to 0x. 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below current prices. I won&#8217;t go too much into these various names as much has already been written about the merits of holdings a basket of these asset-light, cash flowing, perpetual commodity call options.</p><p>Despite the slump in US LNG prices&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b5us!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e94ab6f-09db-4ddb-9e67-ee30fa20e1f2_1050x435.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b5us!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5e94ab6f-09db-4ddb-9e67-ee30fa20e1f2_1050x435.png 424w, 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Barring any really wild actions by management, or another shale bust of operators, all they need to do is continue to sit there and collect royalty checks on their land; you get constant cash flow while holding a long-duration perpetual call option on future oil prices &#8212;that would also be paid out as a distribution. This goes for VNOM, TPL, and WPM (in the realm of gold streaming, which is slightly different, but the same idea applies). </p><p>See:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/BLACK_STONE_MINERALS_LP/5078936356">https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/BLACK_STONE_MINERALS_LP/5078936356</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/BLACK_STONE_MINERALS_LP/7040535210">https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/BLACK_STONE_MINERALS_LP/7040535210</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gas-stay-decades-fossil-fuel-010000495.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gas-stay-decades-fossil-fuel-010000495.html</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201211030043/https://horizonkinetics.com/wp-content/uploads/Royalty-Companies-Compilation_Website-Version.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20201211030043/https://horizonkinetics.com/wp-content/uploads/Royalty-Companies-Compilation_Website-Version.pdf</a></p></li></ul><h3>Money Market Funds (24%)</h3><p>This cash position has certainly been a drag on returns, but for now I&#8217;m fine with collecting the income generated from the highest interest rates in a decade and using it for reinvestment into the portfolio&#8217;s various equity holdings.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vO_t!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff16d2a41-09ea-4ad0-a992-024f060b9ee5_1321x359.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>I will note that FRMO is down 10%, YTD. This is mostly due to FRMO large TPL stake and the current value-destroying lawsuit that the TPL BoD is enacting against Horizon Kinetics and Softvest (who themselves are board members) all for the sake of enabling themselves to dilute shareholders and rule over a larger empire of assets. </p><p>The controversy centers around TPL's proposal to expand the number of authorized shares outstanding, which would dilute the holdings of existing shareholders. TPL filed a lawsuit against Horizon Kinetics and Softvest, alleging that they broke the terms of their Stockholder Agreement by refusing to vote in favor of the proposal. Horizon Kinetics and Softvest, on the other hand, assert that they are not required to vote in favor of the proposal and that the item should be considered "non-routine," which would mean brokers can't vote non-votes. The case was heard on April 17, 2023, in Delaware, and the final decision is still pending.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a> You can read a lot more about this in the blog here: <a href="https://tpltblog.com/">https://tpltblog.com/</a></p><p>My current view on FRMO&#8217;s valuation is laid out here:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2O77!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5b1f64ca-5c78-4935-b6bd-f30cee67cf21_1864x534.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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(I think it's also rather impressive to note that this statement was made in mid-2020, before the drastic rate hikes of 2022). </p><p>If you don&#8217;t agree with that macro view &#8212;or don&#8217;t want that <em>probability</em> hedged by Murray Stahl&#8212; then you wouldn&#8217;t want to invest in the fund; however, I can't help but think of the Steve Jobs quote (which also reminds me a lot of Andrew Carnegie's) that &#8220;[i]<em>t doesn&#8217;t make sense to hire smart people and then tell them what to do; we hire smart people so they can tell us what to do.</em>&#8221; This is my intention in having Stahl manage my capital in this heavily discounted, (reasonably) diversified, incentivized, income-generating fund. </p><p>With my existing 5% allocation in FRMO, this puts the total amount of portfolio capital in the hands of Murray Stahl and the HK complex at 12%. I&#8217;m very fine with this other than the major key-man risk it creates around someone who is a few years beyond that required to be classified as a senior citizen by Medicare standards &#8212;though I take some comfort in the fact that Carl Icahn, Howard Marks, and the Berkshire chairmen are at least a decade older than Stahl and still doing their thing.</p><p>The shares are quite illiquid, but I&#8217;ve had pretty good luck in getting my orders filled at around 20-24% discounts to the fund&#8217;s NAV.</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;864ee5a6-83f9-4581-8289-733460939004&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&#8220;If I was running $1 million today, or $10 million for that matter, I&#8217;d be fully invested. Anyone who says that size does not hurt investment performance is selling. The highest rates of return I&#8217;ve ever achieved were in the 1950s. I killed the Dow. You ought to see the numbers. But I was investing peanuts then. It&#8217;s a huge structural advantage not to h&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;lg&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($RCG) The RENN Fund: A diversified and discounted permanent-capital nanocap with a lot of optionality, being run for free by smart allocators.&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2023-03-11T00:45:40.917Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F914adb46-da2a-4bb1-ba31-c6a16d48d14d_823x548.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/rcg-the-renn-fund-a-discounted-stahl&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:105997445,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><h3>SCHW: Charles Schwab Corp (4%)</h3><p>I bought this during the height of the panic that surrounded the possibility of a banking crisis near the end of the first quarter of 2023. It&#8217;s never too late to invest in a great company (at the right price) and I believed that SCHW was at a good price &#8212;one that was baking in a big probability of another GFC that, IMO, wasn&#8217;t going to happen; my cost basis is around $55/sh.</p><p>Bottom line, there appeared to be &#8212;and Mr.Market was certainly acting like it was imminent&#8212; another banking crisis; I simply doubted the idea that there was going to be another 2008. Post-GFC regulations lead to me to believe that a 2008 redux was <em>the</em> one scenario that was <em>not</em> going to happen; generals always prepare to fight the last war, after all. </p><p>I scooped up SCHW&#8217;s dual broker-sweep-to-bank business as well as small positions in banks with long operating histories, survived the 2008 GFC with positive earnings, and high total shareholder return numbers; these were MTB and FFIN.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!X-F5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6605469c-f7da-4625-a6ee-fdfaa03c2a03_1575x373.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>(<a href="https://content.schwab.com/web/retail/public/about-schwab/schwab_annual_report_2022.pdf">https://content.schwab.com/web/retail/public/about-schwab/schwab_annual_report_2022.pdf</a>)</em></p><p>On the upside view, Schwab, despite what one might think would be butting up against the physics and gravity of further growth, is not yet at the end of it&#8217;s value-creation limits and is about to meet an inflection point where FCF starts getting redistributed to shareholders vs big reinvestments &#8212;warranting a re-rating by Mr.Market.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>&nbsp;</p><p>Schwab is after your loose brokerage cash (via cash sweep features) in the same way that Costco is after your membership fees (though unlike brokerage cash, these don&#8217;t scale as easily); the products they&#8217;re selling <em>you</em> is not where they&#8217;re making <em>their</em> money.</p><div id="youtube2-hOHydiS5AJo" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;hOHydiS5AJo&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/hOHydiS5AJo?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><div id="youtube2-Dg8OUucdM7Q" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;Dg8OUucdM7Q&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Dg8OUucdM7Q?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Schwab Chariman/CEO was also buying stock in the recent crash (and even more so at a similar price last year):</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cmWZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9764210d-8296-42b0-a85b-471ee9cfc519_1196x273.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cmWZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9764210d-8296-42b0-a85b-471ee9cfc519_1196x273.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cmWZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9764210d-8296-42b0-a85b-471ee9cfc519_1196x273.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cmWZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9764210d-8296-42b0-a85b-471ee9cfc519_1196x273.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cmWZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9764210d-8296-42b0-a85b-471ee9cfc519_1196x273.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cmWZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9764210d-8296-42b0-a85b-471ee9cfc519_1196x273.png" width="1196" height="273" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9764210d-8296-42b0-a85b-471ee9cfc519_1196x273.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:273,&quot;width&quot;:1196,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cmWZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9764210d-8296-42b0-a85b-471ee9cfc519_1196x273.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cmWZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9764210d-8296-42b0-a85b-471ee9cfc519_1196x273.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cmWZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9764210d-8296-42b0-a85b-471ee9cfc519_1196x273.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!cmWZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9764210d-8296-42b0-a85b-471ee9cfc519_1196x273.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><a href="https://www.insidearbitrage.com/insider-transactions/insider/0001296479/bettinger-walter-w/">(</a><em><a href="https://www.insidearbitrage.com/insider-transactions/insider/0001296479/bettinger-walter-w/">https://www.insidearbitrage.com/insider-transactions/insider/0001296479/bettinger-walter-w/</a><a href="https://www.insidearbitrage.com/symbol-metrics/SCHW/"> https://www.insidearbitrage.com/symbol-metrics/SCHW/</a></em>)</p><p>These recent purchases total to ~$12MM, which is ~8x his 2021 cash salary and 1x his avg 3yr total compensation. Would you bet an entire year's worth of salary on a business you were not confident in? Do you think that the CEO might have an informational advantage re his own company and industry?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7ReO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f57198f-751a-4735-816b-1952e885610b_1192x223.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7ReO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f57198f-751a-4735-816b-1952e885610b_1192x223.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7ReO!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f57198f-751a-4735-816b-1952e885610b_1192x223.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7ReO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f57198f-751a-4735-816b-1952e885610b_1192x223.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7ReO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f57198f-751a-4735-816b-1952e885610b_1192x223.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7ReO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f57198f-751a-4735-816b-1952e885610b_1192x223.png" width="1192" height="223" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7f57198f-751a-4735-816b-1952e885610b_1192x223.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:223,&quot;width&quot;:1192,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7ReO!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f57198f-751a-4735-816b-1952e885610b_1192x223.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7ReO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f57198f-751a-4735-816b-1952e885610b_1192x223.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7ReO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f57198f-751a-4735-816b-1952e885610b_1192x223.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7ReO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f57198f-751a-4735-816b-1952e885610b_1192x223.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/316709/000119312522093320/d246025ddef14a.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/316709/000119312522093320/d246025ddef14a.htm</a></em>)</p><p>SCHW stock was down 36% over the past 12 months; insiders have been buying around these current prices and the stock is trading at a P/E ratio near it&#8217;s 2020 lows.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ydZL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b3448ba-44ab-43fd-aa5c-82ac7cb4ff77_690x486.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ydZL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b3448ba-44ab-43fd-aa5c-82ac7cb4ff77_690x486.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ydZL!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b3448ba-44ab-43fd-aa5c-82ac7cb4ff77_690x486.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ydZL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b3448ba-44ab-43fd-aa5c-82ac7cb4ff77_690x486.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ydZL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b3448ba-44ab-43fd-aa5c-82ac7cb4ff77_690x486.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ydZL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b3448ba-44ab-43fd-aa5c-82ac7cb4ff77_690x486.png" width="690" height="486" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3b3448ba-44ab-43fd-aa5c-82ac7cb4ff77_690x486.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:486,&quot;width&quot;:690,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ydZL!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b3448ba-44ab-43fd-aa5c-82ac7cb4ff77_690x486.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ydZL!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b3448ba-44ab-43fd-aa5c-82ac7cb4ff77_690x486.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ydZL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b3448ba-44ab-43fd-aa5c-82ac7cb4ff77_690x486.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ydZL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b3448ba-44ab-43fd-aa5c-82ac7cb4ff77_690x486.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>IMO, Mr.Market was panicking and throwing the blue chips out with the bathwater as Credit Suisse and the regional banks like Signature and SVB were facing bank-run / solvency issues. My thought was simply the unoriginal one that, if anything, these panics should drive even more deposits to the larger banks.</p><p>On March 17, Michael Burry tweeted this chart and 2 days later banks fell another 15%:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jSPw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73fbe592-6e75-4550-beb4-c74a2d3fd867_1600x1185.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jSPw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73fbe592-6e75-4550-beb4-c74a2d3fd867_1600x1185.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jSPw!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73fbe592-6e75-4550-beb4-c74a2d3fd867_1600x1185.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jSPw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73fbe592-6e75-4550-beb4-c74a2d3fd867_1600x1185.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jSPw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73fbe592-6e75-4550-beb4-c74a2d3fd867_1600x1185.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jSPw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73fbe592-6e75-4550-beb4-c74a2d3fd867_1600x1185.png" width="1456" height="1078" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Comparing to Schwab&#8217;s ratios at the year ending the 2022 rate hiking:</p><p>12291&#247;(30590+27296) = 21.23% unrealized AFS losses as percent of Common Equity Tier 1 Capital (48% if including HTM securities losses), per the 2022 10K. Schwab would be at the leftmost bottom corner (or center) of this chart &#8212;ie. one of the lowest risk banks of all those listed here.</p><p>Also note that "<em>Collectively, more than 80% of client cash held at Schwab Bank is insured dollar-for-dollar by the FDIC. According to S&amp;P Global Market Intelligence, that percentage is among the highest of the top 100 U.S. banks. As a comparison, the banks in the news the last few days have between 2% and 20% of their deposits insured.</em>", <a href="https://www.aboutschwab.com/perspective-on-recent-industry-events">https://www.aboutschwab.com/perspective-on-recent-industry-events</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>Where will interest rates go next (potentially hammering or saving existing MTM losses depending on their direction)? I don&#8217;t know and, taking a page from the likes of Klarman, Lynch, and Buffett (though I believe that last guy does get secret info of some kind from the Fed and Democrat Party sources), I&#8217;m simply not going to concern myself with something that is unpredictable. I&#8217;m also not totally sure, and I think many would agree, that the Fed themselves even really know what their going to do from month to month.</p><div id="youtube2-w456v77ydAU" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;w456v77ydAU&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/w456v77ydAU?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>I will say that around this same time, Buffett continued buying shares of OXY which is not something I think you would do if you thought that commodities &#8212;being highly linked to interest rates and the general economy&#8212; were going to get killed any time soon in a replay of the 2008 GFC.&nbsp;</p><div 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putting their money where their mouth is I took the chance to get in at prices at or below those that they themselves are paying.&nbsp;</p><p>We can look at the fwd 5yr normalized EPS estimates for SCHW and plug in 2022 EPS and a discount rate of (Rf+Re=4%+6%=) 11% (and some non-crazy period lengths, IMO) to plug into a simple DCF model and get a sense of the upside here; this get us to a PT that&#8217;s not actually very from the CEO price at which the CEO was buying at in early 2022 &#8212;not sure what to make of that.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kChH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01bb032b-c6e9-4a13-893b-e40fae552dfa_857x463.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!kChH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F01bb032b-c6e9-4a13-893b-e40fae552dfa_857x463.png" width="857" height="463" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/01bb032b-c6e9-4a13-893b-e40fae552dfa_857x463.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:463,&quot;width&quot;:857,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:103071,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>When does the current price make sense? Well, if we adjust the previous model to only take the estimated EPS CAGR to the 5yr terms that the estimates are actually given for (I extrapolated it out to 8yrs in the other model) and assume rates get hiked another 100bps to get us to an Rf=5%, then we see that SCHW is currently about fairly valued. I don&#8217;t think this is too crazy either and I&#8217;m fine to &#8220;dividend and chill&#8221; with that PT for this company as it&#8217;s pretty much my cost basis.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVjp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf81f82e-8c5f-4177-a692-7f06ede8aceb_856x465.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVjp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf81f82e-8c5f-4177-a692-7f06ede8aceb_856x465.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVjp!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf81f82e-8c5f-4177-a692-7f06ede8aceb_856x465.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVjp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf81f82e-8c5f-4177-a692-7f06ede8aceb_856x465.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVjp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf81f82e-8c5f-4177-a692-7f06ede8aceb_856x465.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVjp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf81f82e-8c5f-4177-a692-7f06ede8aceb_856x465.png" width="856" height="465" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVjp!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf81f82e-8c5f-4177-a692-7f06ede8aceb_856x465.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVjp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf81f82e-8c5f-4177-a692-7f06ede8aceb_856x465.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NVjp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdf81f82e-8c5f-4177-a692-7f06ede8aceb_856x465.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Of course, if we get some big recession shock, then all bets are off &#8212;and I&#8217;ll have a good opportunity to start reallocating my money market capital.</p><p>Ultimately, IDK that anyone knows when the next recession or major left-tail is coming and everyone talking / prognosticating about it right now is only making it less likely to actually happen.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WyAF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89624d72-d795-46c5-a000-eb80abf2152e_1056x604.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!WyAF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F89624d72-d795-46c5-a000-eb80abf2152e_1056x604.png" width="1056" height="604" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/89624d72-d795-46c5-a000-eb80abf2152e_1056x604.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:604,&quot;width&quot;:1056,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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I would think this applies more strongly to such a large and liquid business that has much more eyes on it than some other large holdings I have &#8212;I think that the applicability of EMT to a stock (under normal economic condition) increases <em>exponentially</em> with the number of eyes on it, rather than linearly. However the low &#8220;greed&#8221; rating of the CNN index and the negative sentiment around the banking industry in particular gives me greater confidence in betting on a &#8220;behavioral inefficiency/arbitrage&#8221; (in this case, &#8220;extrapolation bias&#8221;) here, as Mauboussin might call it.</p><h3>OTCM: OTC Markets Group</h3><p>I look at OTCM as the &#8220;ETF&#8221; (or at least the primary beneficiary) of all of the investing activity (corporate listing, investor trading, and institutional research) that takes place outside of the major exchanges in the US.</p><p>Regarding the EDGAR Online and Blue Sky Data bolt-on acquisitions, I don't really have an opinion on them. Per the (sponsored) <a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/research/371924/content">Sidoti report</a>, they added a good clip of revenue growth in the market data segment, so there's obviously demand for the products; I like Blue Sky a bit better as I see it as more mission-critical, since more this is more related to compliance requirements for customers<a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/otcm-otc-markets-group-in-the-land#footnote-1-68880766"><sup>1</sup></a>. Both of these acquisitions were done via all cash<a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/otcm-otc-markets-group-in-the-land#footnote-2-68880766"><sup>2</sup></a>and are bolt-ons to OTCM&#8217;s market data segment, rather than being any kind of transformational acquisitions, so at the very least they don&#8217;t set off any red flags to me (per Mauboussin)<a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/otcm-otc-markets-group-in-the-land#footnote-3-68880766"><sup>3</sup></a>.</p><p>IMO, the FINRA approval for OTCM&#8217;s FINRA-regulated OTC Link ATS to facilitate trade of digital securities for broker-dealers in somewhat more interesting to me as it has a lot more upside optionality and OTCM basically got it for free by simply executing on their businesses as they have already been doing &#8212;a free call option on the expanding adoption and innovation of digital securities (as well as the SEC&#8217;s idea of what counts as one).<a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/otcm-otc-markets-group-in-the-land#footnote-4-68880766"><sup>4</sup></a></p><blockquote><p><em>An ATS is a regulated trading platform similar to an exchange &#8211; there are dozens today, but most operate in the private securities market. OTC Markets provides a trading platform for public securities, including many smaller banks and international firms, as well as Grayscale&#8217;s various funds that hold digital assets like Bitcoin (Grayscale Bitcoin Trust) or Ethereum (Grayscale Ethereum Trust). [OTC Markets Deputy General Counsel, Cass] Sanford said that if digital assets are, in fact, securities, they would be considered over-the-counter equity securities. She pointed to Rule 15c2-11 for non-reporting firms, which could be a path for appropriate disclosure. Currently, she believes that a lot of these instruments, when you look at the long tail, they already look like OTC securities.</em></p></blockquote><p>What&#8217;s also interesting about this is that it shows that financial regulators do indeed see a place for digital assets in the US market, rather than being simply interested in creating roadblocks in this space.</p><p>OTCM doesn&#8217;t really need to reinvest too much in it&#8217;s core business to make money and you could maybe make an argument that it does not use it&#8217;s capital super efficiently.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png" width="608" height="176" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:176,&quot;width&quot;:608,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:true,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy" fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://twitter.com/ralphinvests/status/1283507071053250561?s=20">twitter.com</a>; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq_ror7T9FE">Focused Compounding</a>; screenshot included here, since Elon Musk has restricted tweet embedding in response to the Substack Notes launch</figcaption></figure></div><p>Here I have charted OTCM&#8217;s ROIIC where&#8230;</p><p>ROIIC = (NOPAT[t=1] - NOPAT[t=0]) / (IC[t=0] - IC[t=-1])</p><p>NOPAT = Operating income x (1 - effective tax rate)</p><p>IC = Equity + Debt + Current and Longterm Deferred Tax Liabilities; I also include the recent <a href="https://commercialobserver.com/2019/03/otc-markets-group-sublease-300-vesey-street-virtu-financial-brookfield-place/">Vesay capital lease</a> expenses of OTCM&#8217;s HQ property they are sub-leasing from Virtu Financial</p><p>We see that often we have a negative ROIIC not because NOPAT declines YoY, but simply because incremental capital is, on net, taken out of the business rather than added to it. In any case, I also highlight the times where IIC is positive to give some view on how NOPAT behaves in cases where management does add capital to the business.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SISg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda675f68-2892-4fac-a116-054781e768c4_906x554.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SISg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda675f68-2892-4fac-a116-054781e768c4_906x554.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SISg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda675f68-2892-4fac-a116-054781e768c4_906x554.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SISg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda675f68-2892-4fac-a116-054781e768c4_906x554.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SISg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda675f68-2892-4fac-a116-054781e768c4_906x554.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SISg!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fda675f68-2892-4fac-a116-054781e768c4_906x554.png" width="858" height="524.6490066225166" 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(formerly IAA)</h3><p>On November 7, 2022, IAA announced that they would be acquired by Ritchie Bros. Auctioneers Incorporated (NYSE: RBA).</p><blockquote><p><em>Under the terms of the merger agreement, IAA stockholders will receive $10.00 in cash and 0.5804 shares of Ritchie Bros. common stock for each share of IAA common stock they own. <strong>The purchase price of $46.88 per share represents a premium of approximately 19% to the closing share price of IAA common stock on November 4, 2022, and 23% to the 10-day volume-weighted average price, using Ritchie Bros.&#8217; 10-day volume-weighted average price on the NYSE of $63.55. The total purchase price also reflects a transaction multiple of 13.6x IAA&#8217;s last twelve-month Adjusted EBITDA2 as of October 2, 2022.</strong> Upon completion of the transaction, Ritchie Bros. stockholders will own approximately 59% of the combined company and IAA stockholders will own approximately 41%. &#8212;- <a href="https://www.iaai.com/Press-Releases/ritchie-bros-to-acquire-iaa-create-a-leading-global-marketplace-for-commercial-assets-vehicles">https://www.iaai.com/Press-Releases/ritchie-bros-to-acquire-iaa-create-a-leading-global-marketplace-for-commercial-assets-vehicles</a></em></p></blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t plan to sell at the moment. Some observations: 13.6x TTM EBITDA is near the upper range of where IAA traded over the last 12 months &#8212; after the initial fall with the overall market in the beginning of the year (+ the big drop after IAA&#8217;s earnings report in Q1FY2022).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3tZr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc67592d7-463a-4869-b2d8-44c0f6a0c292_1575x474.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3tZr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc67592d7-463a-4869-b2d8-44c0f6a0c292_1575x474.png 424w, 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post.</p><p>Ancora Holdings &#8212; who wrote an earlier criticism of IAA management that was <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/51214255/why-has-iaa-been-beaten-down">included</a> in this original post (who now owns 4% of IAA vs the 2% when I originally wrote this post) &#8212; opposes the deal and voiced their concerns in the letter <a href="https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20221114005418/en/Ancora-Sends-Letter-to-IAA%E2%80%99s-Board-of-Directors-Regarding-the-Poorly-Structured-Proposed-Sale-to-Ritchie-Bros.">here</a>.</p><p>Whether the deal goes through or not, I&#8217;m content to hold on to my shares for the time being.</p><p>As for the decline in used car prices we&#8217;ve seen through the year, like I stated in the original article: It&#8217;s kinda a non-issue (as used car prices are not really a huge input contributor to their business, but a nice topping on vehicle ARPU at auctions) &#8212;despite being the initial reason for me looking at the stock in the first place.</p><p>Like I mention elsewhere in the original post, the longer-term idea is that IAA couldn&#8217;t get much worse (I mean, they still managed to remain #2 in the oligopoly despite all the problems described in the Ancora letter) and a Copart-like biz is the possible upside if the company had the right management&#8230; maybe RBA's management can be that team.</p><p>On March 14 2023, IAA made this press release: <em>&#8220;IAA, Inc. (NYSE: IAA) (&#8220;the Company&#8221;) today announced that its stockholders have adopted the previously announced merger agreement providing for the stock and cash acquisition of the Company by Ritchie Bros. Auctioneers Incorporated (NYSE: RBA) (TSX: RBA) (&#8220;Ritchie Bros.&#8221;) at the Special Meeting of IAA Stockholders held earlier today. [&#8230;] <strong>Under the terms of the merger agreement, IAA stockholders will receive $12.80 per share in cash and 0.5252 common shares of Ritchie Bros. for each share of IAA common stock they own</strong>. Upon completion of the transaction, the parties expect that on a fully diluted basis IAA stockholders will own approximately 37.2% of the combined company and Ritchie Bros. shareholders will own approximately 62.8%</em>.&#8221;, <a href="https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230314005855/en/IAA-Announces-Stockholder-Approval-of-Merger-Agreement-with-Ritchie-Bros.">https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230314005855/en/IAA-Announces-Stockholder-Approval-of-Merger-Agreement-with-Ritchie-Bros.</a></p><p>From what I can tell Peter Kamin &#8212;whose board presence was one of the things that originally got me interested in the business&#8212; has not sold his shares; the <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/937541/000089924323009321/xslF345X04/doc4.xml">most recent filing by Kamin re. IAA</a> was related to the conversion of IAA shares to RBA shares per the acquisition terms:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HyRY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F738e1e2a-c54a-4529-aab4-6e1fae43722e_1894x563.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HyRY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F738e1e2a-c54a-4529-aab4-6e1fae43722e_1894x563.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HyRY!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F738e1e2a-c54a-4529-aab4-6e1fae43722e_1894x563.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HyRY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F738e1e2a-c54a-4529-aab4-6e1fae43722e_1894x563.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HyRY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F738e1e2a-c54a-4529-aab4-6e1fae43722e_1894x563.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HyRY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F738e1e2a-c54a-4529-aab4-6e1fae43722e_1894x563.png" width="1456" height="433" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/738e1e2a-c54a-4529-aab4-6e1fae43722e_1894x563.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:433,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:131441,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HyRY!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F738e1e2a-c54a-4529-aab4-6e1fae43722e_1894x563.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HyRY!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F738e1e2a-c54a-4529-aab4-6e1fae43722e_1894x563.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HyRY!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F738e1e2a-c54a-4529-aab4-6e1fae43722e_1894x563.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HyRY!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F738e1e2a-c54a-4529-aab4-6e1fae43722e_1894x563.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><blockquote><p><em>1. Pursuant to an Agreement and Plan of Merger and Reorganization, dated as of November 7, 2022, as amended by the Amendment to the Agreement and Plan of Merger and Reorganization, dated as of January 22, 2023 (the "Merger Agreement" and the transactions contemplated thereby, the "Merger"), by and among the Issuer, a Delaware corporation, Ritchie Bros. Auctioneers Incorporated, a company organized under the federal laws of Canada ("RBA"), Ritchie Bros. Holdings Inc., a Washington corporation and a direct and indirect wholly owned subsidiary of RBA ("US Holdings"), Impala Merger Sub I, LLC, a Delaware limited liability company and a direct wholly owned subsidiary of US Holdings, and Impala Merger Sub II, LLC, a Delaware limited liability company and a direct wholly owned subsidiary of US Holdings,</em></p><p><em>2. (Continued from Footnote 1) <strong>each outstanding share of the Issuer's common stock held by the Reporting Person immediately prior to the effective time of the Merger automatically and without any required action by the Reporting Person, was converted into the right to receive: (i) 0.5252 of a common share of RBA plus cash in lieu of any fractional RBA common share, and (ii) $12.80 in cash</strong>, without interest and less any required withholding taxes (the "Merger Consideration").</em></p><p><em>3. Includes shares subject to a restricted stock award that were converted at the Effective Time into the right to receive the Merger Consideration.</em></p></blockquote><h3>APG: APi Group</h3><p>Ultimately, I think of APG like <strong>a diversified portfolio / PE &#8220;</strong><em><strong>fund&#8221;</strong></em><strong> of statutorily-mandated fire and life safety businesses with some very reputable insider owners &#8212;</strong>though I certainly look askance at some of their compensation&#8212; but (future M&amp;A that Becker and the Jarden gang may find in the future) I think the stock is likely trading around fair value at this time, so I see no reason to add to the existing position for now (especially given the lack of a dividend cash-back despite management&#8217;s lauding of APG&#8217;s asset-light nature).</p><p>I wrote more about this here:</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;201955bd-e5be-4946-a447-f71248a0c993&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;Intro History Some commentary on the J2 SPAC and the incentives structure A quick note Viking Global Investors Business Life and fire safety Specialty services Strategy Decentralized Rollups/bolt-ons GTM inspection-to-monitoring cross-sell pipeline The Jarden vets&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;lg&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($APG) APi Group: Quick Commentary &quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2023-07-05T12:58:05.465Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F30899f1a-5843-40d2-a859-062bfe6856c1_972x640.png&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/apg-api-group-quick-commentary&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:130821363,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><h3>Commentary on some smaller positions</h3><h4>GBTC: Grayscale Bitcoin Trust (4%)</h4><p>BlackRock has recently <a href="https://finbold.com/blackrocks-record-of-etfs-approved-by-the-sec-is-575-1/">applied for a Bitcoin spot ETF</a> to trade in the US; their record for having ETFs approved by the SEC is 575 to 1; <a href="https://twitter.com/mikeburgersburg/status/1671345919579639810?s=51&amp;t=oE6GN6vLZWb087-UBs2QXA">this</a> twitter thread had an interesting POV linking BlackRock&#8217;s timing to their supposed expectation of a crackdown on large and less-reputable crypto exchanges Binance and Tether, which would allay SEC concerns of manipulation in the crypto marketplace.</p><p>This is all interesting as Grayscale is currently in a <a href="https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/02/28/grayscale-to-argue-secs-inconsistency-as-bitcoin-etf-dispute-heads-toward-court/">lawsuit with the SEC</a> that is still <a href="https://ambcrypto.com/grayscale-has-a-70-chance-of-winning-the-case-against-sec-analyst/">ongoing</a> over converting their own Bitcoin trust into a spot ETF and it seems unlikely and inconsistent if BlackRock gets their spot ETF, but Grayscale does not. Furthermore, having competing sport ETFs on the market would likely force Grayscale to lower their existing management fees.</p><p>Whether Blackrock is a true believer in Bitcoin&#8217;s value or is just intending release these products for more cynical reasons, the underlying point is that this asset manager appears to be anticipating significant fund flows into Bitcoin as an asset class.</p><p>Most of my GBTC cost basis is from when BTC was trading at or below the $18-$25K range and the GBTC discount to NAV was closer to 40-50%.</p><h4>LSXMK: Liberty Media Corp, Series C (1%)</h4><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2LDJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F65aeede2-2e4d-4c25-b2de-718cf1328bff_1206x661.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.insidearbitrage.com/symbol-metrics/LSXMK/">https://www.insidearbitrage.com/symbol-metrics/LSXMK/</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.libertymedia.com/news/detail/36/liberty-media-corporation-announces-reattribution-of-live">https://www.libertymedia.com/news/detail/36/liberty-media-corporation-announces-reattribution-of-live</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200511005285/en/Liberty-Media-Corporation-Announces-Terms-for-Previously-Announced-Rights-Offering">https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200511005285/en/Liberty-Media-Corporation-Announces-Terms-for-Previously-Announced-Rights-Offering</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315090/000120919120033068/xslF345X03/doc4.xml">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/315090/000120919120033068/xslF345X03/doc4.xml</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1099636/000122520820008646/xslF345X03/doc4.xml">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1099636/000122520820008646/xslF345X03/doc4.xml</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/937797/000122520820008491/xslF345X03/doc4.xml">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/937797/000122520820008491/xslF345X03/doc4.xml</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/LIBERTY_MEDIA_SIRIUSXM_GROUP/3190023789">https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/LIBERTY_MEDIA_SIRIUSXM_GROUP/3190023789</a></p></li></ul><p>I will note that Andrew Walker of <a href="https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com">YABV</a> has been a long-time Malone fan and has written recently on how Malone has kinda fallen off his game&#8230; see <a href="https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/malones-rights-offering-spree-lilak-lsxmk">this</a> then <a href="https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/weekend-thoughts-libertys-big-week">this</a> then <a href="https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/liberty-investor-day-follow-up-thoughts">this</a> then <a href="https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/liberty-day-2022-its-time-for-a-change">this</a>.</p><blockquote><p><em>But let me propose an alternative thesis here: John Malone was one of the greatest capital allocators / businessmen of all time, but he has done a terrible job in choosing successors. All of his successors sound smart and they know how to talk about creating long term wealth&#8230;. but they don&#8217;t know how to make money (well, they don&#8217;t know how to make money for shareholders; they&#8217;ve done just fine making money for themselves with their enormous pay packages!), and Malone&#8217;s too rich and too old to admit his mistake and fire his friends / successors, plus he&#8217;s maybe a little stuck in the legacy media world and doesn&#8217;t see the ball as clearly on how media is evolving. That&#8217;s a dangerous combination, and it leaves shareholders really out in the lurch. [&#8230;] This isn&#8217;t the Liberty of old; Malone has either lost several steps or just isn't as involved with Liberty (likely some combination of the two), and his successors are absolutely as skilled in destroying shareholder value as peak Malone was at creating it. And the successors are getting multi-generational wealth while they&#8217;re at it.</em></p></blockquote><p>In the post, he makes the case that Liberty is out of touch with its shareholders due to several factors: Liberty's stocks have underperformed the market over the past few years, with many of them trading at large discounts to fair value. They continue to get caught in apparent value traps, they seem to consistently buy high and sell low, and on a related note Liberty is constantly bungling its capital structure (eg. the LSXM rights offering was done near the COVID lows and only for the purpose of bailing out FWONA); they continue to make questionable capital allocation decisions&#8230;</p><blockquote><p><em>How about <a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/908937/000093041321001837/c102501_8kixbrl.htm">last year&#8217;s deal to swap Berkshire&#8217;s SIRI shares into LSXMK?</a> That was an absolute travesty of capital allocation; LSXMK traded for a massive discount to NAV (which consists largely of SIRI), but they swapped their shares for Berkshire&#8217;s full priced SIRI shares. At the time, I thought<a href="https://yetanothervalueblog.substack.com/p/weekend-thoughts-libertys-big-week"> they would only do that if they had an immediate reason to do so</a>&#8230;. here we are one year later and it looks like LSXMK decided to issue stock at a discount for no real reason except to speed up their tax consolidation (something that would have happened this year anyway!).</em></p></blockquote><p>&#8230; and creating financial structures that are difficult to understand. The company's compensation packages are seen as excessive and eating into the underlying value of the company. Walker hopes that Liberty will announce a series of deals that unlock and create value, but is skeptical given the company's track record.</p><p>You can read more on this in the post itself. </p><p>At the end of the day, I&#8217;m OK with putting a small pps allocation in this non-dividend paying, NCAV, tracker stock and letting it ride.</p><h4>BN: Brookfield Corporation (2.5%)</h4><p>BN cashflows: <a href="https://bn.brookfield.com/sites/brookfield-bn/files/2023-05/bn-corporate-profile-may-2023.pdf">https://bn.brookfield.com/sites/brookfield-bn/files/2023-05/bn-corporate-profile-may-2023.pdf</a>, <a href="https://bam.brookfield.com/sites/brookfield-bam/files/BAM-IR-Master/Supplemental-Information/2023/2023%20-%20Q1%20Supplemental_BAM%20_Final.pdf">https://bam.brookfield.com/sites/brookfield-bam/files/BAM-IR-Master/Supplemental-Information/2023/2023%20-%20Q1%20Supplemental_BAM%20_Final.pdf</a>, </p><ul><li><p>75% of BAM = mgmt fees (fee bearing capital x mgmt rates) + carried interest (carry eligible capital x performance fee rates) + capital gains investing <a href="https://www.brookfield.com/investors/private-funds#:~:text=We%20foster%20alignment%20of%20interests,are%20typically%20the%20largest%20investor.">alongside</a> funds</p></li><li><p>Operating businesses = Renewables (50% ownership BEP) + Infrascructure (30% ownership BIP) + PE (65% ownership BBU) + RE (100% ownership BPG)</p></li><li><p>(BNRE) Reinsurance = Life, Pension, and Property insurance premiums (earned premiums &#8212;  (incurred losses + expenses))</p></li></ul><p>On Brookfield Corporation (since I did include it in the earlier graphic), I am current averaging into the position in my secondary portfolio. The beating dished out on long-duration in 2022 by rate hikes (now trading near the same P/BV at the lowest point of the 2020 crash), tight <a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/brookfield-corporation-tse-bn-largely-132705358.html">insider ownership</a> (relative to the large size of the company), and CEO Bruce Flatt&#8217;s TSR for shareholders over the past few decades makes BN attractive. </p><p>However, the complex structure, their weird inner circle Illuminati <a href="https://financialpost.com/financial-times/brookfield-revamps-unusual-ownership-structure-to-limit-powers-of-governing-partnership">controlling group</a>, odd dealings (eg. what&#8217;s with the Kushner thing (not that I care one way or another re. Trump or his family)?) and general opaqueness (I couldn&#8217;t find any good info on breakdown of beneficial ownership or organizational structure in their annual reports) I think warrant wanting to get a pretty good discount on FV or a less-risked position size. </p><blockquote><p><em>To unpack the Canadian group&#8217;s accounts is to discover not so much a company as a giant, triangular jigsaw board that spreads across the world and covers assets worth $500bn. <strong>The pieces are hundreds of corporate entities, all locked together by elaborate contracts, which give 40 people at the top the right to rule huge sections of the puzzle almost as if it were their own</strong>. </em></p><p><em><strong>Those insiders wield such power that the companies below them could face risks similar to those of &#8220;pyramid control companies&#8221;</strong>, according to a draft investor disclosure that Brookfield filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission in 2013. (The final version warned instead of risks &#8220;associated with a separation of economic interest from control&#8221;.) &#8212;- <a href="https://archive.is/CG10g">https://archive.is/CG10g</a></em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!crL1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3826fecd-12df-4e66-98d3-ebf8a19d46fd_700x581.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!crL1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3826fecd-12df-4e66-98d3-ebf8a19d46fd_700x581.png 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3826fecd-12df-4e66-98d3-ebf8a19d46fd_700x581.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:581,&quot;width&quot;:700,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Diagram showing the structure of Brookfield&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Diagram showing the structure of Brookfield" title="Diagram showing the structure of Brookfield" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!crL1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3826fecd-12df-4e66-98d3-ebf8a19d46fd_700x581.png 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://www.ft.com/content/595a77d0-3867-11ea-a6d3-9a26f8c3cba4">https://www.ft.com/content/595a77d0-3867-11ea-a6d3-9a26f8c3cba4</a>; <a href="https://archive.is/CG10g">https://archive.is/CG10g</a>; this article was post-BAM-spinoff and I&#8217;ve not been able to find more info on their current org structure</em>)</p><p>I&#8217;m comfortable limiting this starting position to DCA&#8217;ing up to 2-3pps and letting it rise or fall to the level of concentration it (or Mr.Market believes it) deserves from there in the fullness of time while collecting the dividend; I admit these issues would really make me look askance at the position if it approached 7pps in however many years. It should be noted that Flatt has been running Brookfield for nearly 20 years now without any large incidents &#8212;though I&#8217;d note that Enron also lasted for nearly 20 years before the house of cards would collapse in the recession of 2000.</p><p>Why not just go with MKL and BRK and be done with it in order to invest along side some investing legends without the headache of the structural opaqueness? For me, it&#8217;s the dividend (I&#8217;ve explained a bit why I prefer a dividends over buybacks as a return-of-capital mechanism, <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/112948690/an-aside-on-dividends-vs-buybacks-and-selling-shares">here</a>); I&#8217;ve already got a comfortable allocation of distributionless, &#8216;<em>invest alongside intelligent allocators managing a diversified vehicle&#8217;</em> positions via my FRMO position (where I&#8217;m fine letting Stahl make the DRIP decisions for the time being) &#8212;and a bit of LSXMK.</p><p>You can see an interesting investment case for BN from HK&#8217;s INFL ETF manager, James Davolos, <a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Davolos-VII-Reprint-FINAL-APPROVED-05-11-22-KINE2022050083.pdf">here</a> (note that his SOP valuation of $70/sh was in April 2022 when FFR was just 0.33% vs the 5% it sits around today) &#8212;though none of this commentary was actually what made me initially decide to invest in BN. </p><p>From a simplistic POV, I&#8217;d note that the 2021 EPS for BN was $2.39/sh and effective Fed Funds rate (EFFR) was around 0.33%, so we can back out of a simple DCF to see what kind of high-level expectations were baked into the BN share price at the time of that interview with Davolos:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6cPB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6ba790e7-fdda-4995-a1ea-77005277508c_1510x904.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6cPB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6ba790e7-fdda-4995-a1ea-77005277508c_1510x904.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6cPB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6ba790e7-fdda-4995-a1ea-77005277508c_1510x904.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6cPB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6ba790e7-fdda-4995-a1ea-77005277508c_1510x904.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6cPB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6ba790e7-fdda-4995-a1ea-77005277508c_1510x904.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6cPB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6ba790e7-fdda-4995-a1ea-77005277508c_1510x904.png" width="1456" height="872" 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In any case, we see we can get to Davolos&#8217; $70/sh PT with a 8% growth rate (which was not too crazy given that BN&#8217;s normalized EPS CAGR from 2002 to 2021 was 15.6%) and a discount rate of Re+Rf = 6pps + 0pps, so I&#8217;d say his PT at the time was reasonable.</p><p>Now that the effective Fed Funds rate (EFFR) is closer to 5%, that discount rate would be closer to 11%. I keep the same implied growth rate from the previous DCF and, noting that 2023 normalized EPS estimates are around $3/sh (so the current price would have BN trading at a 11x NTM P/E or a 9% NTM earnings yield (implying a 4% equity risk premium on top of current EFFR); looking at BN like a well-managed, long-duration, alternative asset ETF, I&#8217;d like a more traditional 6% equity risk rate on this for a PT of ($3/sh/0.10=)$30/sh), I set a base EPS of (3/1.08=) $2.78/sh to start the DCF earnings growth off of (so the 2023 year end EPS is the estimated $3/sh) and use that growth rate going forward for the remainder of the growth phase of the DCF; we get a PT of&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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Note that 18% CAGR is the avg normalized EPS estimate for BN over the next 5 years, so relative to these expectations, which appear to have been baked into the price, BN would seem to be trading around fair value at current prices.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!40jg!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74c2c928-fa3c-40d3-ae51-ec70edf5ca37_1520x900.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!40jg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F74c2c928-fa3c-40d3-ae51-ec70edf5ca37_1520x900.png 424w, 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BN&#8217;s 2003-2007 period, which, aside from being the year after the acclaimed Bruce Flatt&#8217;s appointment as CEO, saw EFFR rise to from 2% up to 5% (very similar to where they are today), had an EPS CAGR of 20% &#8212;of course, BN also had the benefit of being a relatively smaller business in the beginning of Flatt&#8217;s tenure. So again, I&#8217;m content to go with a &#8216;we&#8217;ll see&#8217; approach on my BN position.</p><p><a href="https://ffj-online.org/2013/03/11/paper-world-of-brookfield-asset-management/">https://ffj-online.org/2013/03/11/paper-world-of-brookfield-asset-management/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.gurufocus.com/news/212942/is-it-fair-to-attack-brookfield">https://www.gurufocus.com/news/212942/is-it-fair-to-attack-brookfield</a></p><p><a href="https://archive.is/XdTxj">https://archive.is/XdTxj</a></p><p><a href="https://seekingalpha.com/article/3692366-brookfield-asset-management-black-box-u-s-and-canadian-regulators-lurking-in-background">https://seekingalpha.com/article/3692366-brookfield-asset-management-black-box-u-s-and-canadian-regulators-lurking-in-background</a></p><div class="embedded-publication-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:395627,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Edper&quot;,&quot;logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb7f84d42-ab71-4036-a852-a2d51270ac3c_500x500.png&quot;,&quot;base_url&quot;:&quot;https://brookfield.substack.com&quot;,&quot;hero_text&quot;:&quot;All about Brookfield Asset Management&quot;,&quot;author_name&quot;:&quot;Keith Dalrymple&quot;,&quot;show_subscribe&quot;:true,&quot;logo_bg_color&quot;:null,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="EmbeddedPublicationToDOMWithSubscribe"><div class="embedded-publication show-subscribe"><a class="embedded-publication-link-part" native="true" href="https://brookfield.substack.com?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_campaign=publication_embed&amp;utm_medium=web"><img class="embedded-publication-logo" src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-YbN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb7f84d42-ab71-4036-a852-a2d51270ac3c_500x500.png" width="56" height="56"><span class="embedded-publication-name">Edper</span><div class="embedded-publication-hero-text">All about Brookfield Asset Management</div><div class="embedded-publication-author-name">By Keith Dalrymple</div></a><form class="embedded-publication-subscribe" method="GET" action="https://brookfield.substack.com/subscribe?"><input type="hidden" name="source" value="publication-embed"><input type="hidden" name="autoSubmit" value="true"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email..."><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"></form></div></div><div class="embedded-post-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:95888968,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.canadiandividendinvesting.com/p/brookfield-corp-stock-analysis&quot;,&quot;publication_id&quot;:406368,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Canadian Dividend Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Brookfield Corp: Stock Analysis&quot;,&quot;truncated_body_text&quot;:&quot;I&#8217;ve long criticized the Brookfield family of companies of being way the hell too complicated. And thanks to a recent corporate reorganization, there&#8217;s another layer to all this. But I think I have it.&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2023-01-13T14:00:16.682Z&quot;,&quot;like_count&quot;:12,&quot;comment_count&quot;:1,&quot;bylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:25796916,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Nelson!&quot;,&quot;handle&quot;:null,&quot;previous_name&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/288d17aa-f9a9-4de7-854e-a3d9563252ff_400x400.jpeg&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:&quot;Nelson recently retired at age 39 and now manages his own capital. He's looking for underfollowed Canadian dividend stocks with good current yields and potential to grow the payout over time. &quot;,&quot;profile_set_up_at&quot;:&quot;2021-07-26T02:18:45.599Z&quot;,&quot;publicationUsers&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:330973,&quot;user_id&quot;:25796916,&quot;publication_id&quot;:406368,&quot;role&quot;:&quot;admin&quot;,&quot;public&quot;:true,&quot;is_primary&quot;:false,&quot;publication&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:406368,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Canadian Dividend Investing&quot;,&quot;subdomain&quot;:&quot;uproarcapital&quot;,&quot;custom_domain&quot;:&quot;www.canadiandividendinvesting.com&quot;,&quot;custom_domain_optional&quot;:false,&quot;hero_text&quot;:&quot;I uncover great Canadian dividend stocks. &quot;,&quot;logo_url&quot;:null,&quot;author_id&quot;:25796916,&quot;theme_var_background_pop&quot;:&quot;#FD5353&quot;,&quot;created_at&quot;:&quot;2021-07-10T12:48:30.839Z&quot;,&quot;rss_website_url&quot;:null,&quot;email_from_name&quot;:&quot;Nelson from Canadian Dividend Investing&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;Nelson&quot;,&quot;founding_plan_name&quot;:null,&quot;community_enabled&quot;:true,&quot;invite_only&quot;:false,&quot;payments_state&quot;:&quot;enabled&quot;}}],&quot;twitter_screen_name&quot;:&quot;uproarcapital&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;utm_campaign&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="EmbeddedPostToDOM"><a class="embedded-post" native="true" href="https://www.canadiandividendinvesting.com/p/brookfield-corp-stock-analysis?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_campaign=post_embed&amp;utm_medium=web"><div class="embedded-post-header"><span></span><span class="embedded-post-publication-name">Canadian Dividend Investing</span></div><div class="embedded-post-title-wrapper"><div class="embedded-post-title">Brookfield Corp: Stock Analysis</div></div><div class="embedded-post-body">I&#8217;ve long criticized the Brookfield family of companies of being way the hell too complicated. And thanks to a recent corporate reorganization, there&#8217;s another layer to all this. But I think I have it&#8230;</div><div class="embedded-post-cta-wrapper"><span class="embedded-post-cta">Read more</span></div><div class="embedded-post-meta">3 years ago &#183; 12 likes &#183; 1 comment &#183; Nelson!</div></a></div><p>With this new BN position, it gets harder and harder to justify not simply putting my money in the Horizon Kinetics Paradigm Fund (though they&#8217;ve allocated a lot more into the Liberty/Malone complex than I&#8217;d be comfortable with, around <a href="https://kineticsfunds.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/The-Paradigm-Consolidated-Portfolio.pdf">5% of the fund&#8217;s AUM</a>) or the RENN Fund&#8230; maybe if the CEF&#8217;s NAV discount really gets crazy in the supposed recession Druckenmiller continues warning about. </p><p>Until then, I&#8217;ll continue waiting for Godot and making continual small moves to DCA and DRIP into my favored positions while letting cash compound on the sidelines at the new short-term rates that have been unseen in the market for around a decade &#8212;and just 2pps below the stock market&#8217;s historical 6% long-term rate of return.  </p><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Though, this was an interesting article from a few years ago which suggests that GAAP accounting is actually hiding the reasonable valuations of most of these superstars. It&#8217;s essentially making the same argument as Michael Mauboussin has long made, along the line that a lot of Income Statement expenses like R&amp;D and large portions of SG&amp;A should rightly be capitalized and amortized on the Balance Sheet, instead. </p><p><a href="https://distillatecapital.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/FAANG_Valuations_Distilled.pdf">https://distillatecapital.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/FAANG_Valuations_Distilled.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is an interesting article adjacent to the topic from 2011: <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2011/11/30/how-the-correlation-bubble-hurts-us-all/?sh=3b68b1455bd6">https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2011/11/30/how-the-correlation-bubble-hurts-us-all/?sh=3b68b1455bd6</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://danteworlds.laits.utexas.edu/purgatory/04envy.html">https://danteworlds.laits.utexas.edu/purgatory/04envy.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://seekingalpha.com/article/4606649-a-boring-look-at-texas-pacific-land-corp-litigation-against-horizon-kinetics">https://seekingalpha.com/article/4606649-a-boring-look-at-texas-pacific-land-corp-litigation-against-horizon-kinetics</a></p><p><a href="https://www.law360.com/articles/1554265/texas-land-co-investors-call-share-expansion-a-power-grab">https://www.law360.com/articles/1554265/texas-land-co-investors-call-share-expansion-a-power-grab</a></p><p><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-27/wild-west-era-permian-powerhouse-sues-its-own-investors-over-strategy">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-27/wild-west-era-permian-powerhouse-sues-its-own-investors-over-strategy</a></p><p><a href="https://tpltblog.com/2022/11/23/back-to-delaware/">https://tpltblog.com/2022/11/23/back-to-delaware/</a></p><p><a href="https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/texas-pacific-holdout-investors-say-stock-decision-was-deceiving">https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/texas-pacific-holdout-investors-say-stock-decision-was-deceiving</a></p><p><a href="https://www.law360.com/real-estate-authority/other/articles/1552233/tplc-sues-to-uphold-deal-with-investors-after-proxy-fight">https://www.law360.com/real-estate-authority/other/articles/1552233/tplc-sues-to-uphold-deal-with-investors-after-proxy-fight</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/Charles_Schwab/1634087204">https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/Charles_Schwab/1634087204</a>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://hollandadvisors.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Schwab-Gorilla-in-the-midst-1220.pdf">https://hollandadvisors.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Schwab-Gorilla-in-the-midst-1220.pdf</a>&nbsp;</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>LSXMK has an 83% ownership in SIRI, 30% stake in LYV consolidated in it&#8217;s financials; 326.55MM shares outstanding per the 2022 10K.</p><p>83% of SIRI marketcap = $17.83bn x 0.83 = $14.798bn</p><p>30% of LYV marketcap = $21.16bn x 0.30 = $6.348bn</p><p>Combined SIRI and LYV stake = ($14.798bn + $6.348bn)/326.55MM = $64.76/sh</p><p>Corporate-level debt = $4.1bn/326.55MM = $12.56/sh </p><p>(See &#8220;<em>A substantial portion of our consolidated debt is held above the operating subsidiary level, and we could be unable in the future to obtain cash in amounts sufficient to service that debt and our other financial obligations.&#8221; per 2022 10K</em>)</p><p>LSXMK share price = $33.43/sh</p><p>==&gt; $33.43 / ($64.76 - $12.56) - 1 = 35% discount to NAV</p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[($APG) APi Group: From Jarden to J2; Sir Martin Franklin's mission critical, fire safety 'fund']]></title><description><![CDATA[...and I do think of it as a fund --and management seems to look at it this way as well]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/apg-api-group-quick-commentary</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/apg-api-group-quick-commentary</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2023 12:58:05 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F30899f1a-5843-40d2-a859-062bfe6856c1_972x640.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/130821363/intro">Intro</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/130821363/history">History</a></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/130821363/some-commentary-on-the-j-spac-and-the-incentives-structure">Some commentary on the J2 SPAC and the incentives structure</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/130821363/a-quick-note-viking-global-investors-lp">A quick note Viking Global Investors</a></p></li></ul></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/130821363/the-business">Business</a></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/130821363/life-and-fire-safety">Life and fire safety</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/130821363/specialty-services">Specialty services</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/130821363/strategy">Strategy</a></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/130821363/decentralized">Decentralized</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/130821363/rollupsbolt-ons">Rollups/bolt-ons</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/130821363/gtm-inspection-to-monitoring-cross-sell-pipeline">GTM inspection-to-monitoring cross-sell pipeline</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/130821363/the-jarden-vets">The Jarden vets</a></p></li></ul></li></ul></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/130821363/commentary">Commentary</a></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/130821363/valuation-commentary">Valuation commentary</a></p></li></ul></li></ul><h1>Intro</h1><p>********** UPDATE 20240813: <em>Re-shoring appears to going fine and should be bullish for APi Group&#8217;s business in the long-run.</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x7DS!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F451163d7-c9fc-470b-96f4-917bf0aec7df_585x704.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x7DS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F451163d7-c9fc-470b-96f4-917bf0aec7df_585x704.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!x7DS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F451163d7-c9fc-470b-96f4-917bf0aec7df_585x704.png 848w, 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The CHIPS Act, signed into law in August 2022, seems to have turbocharged it, though the money hasn&#8217;t even started flowing yet.</em> <em>Beyond semiconductors, a large number and a great variety of manufacturing plants have been announced over the past two years, and we&#8217;ll get to some that were announced just in recent weeks. They&#8217;re part of what the National Manufacturing Association has termed, &#8220;general reshoring.&#8221;</em>&#8221; ~~~ <a href="https://wolfstreet.com/2024/06/03/eyepopping-factory-construction-boom-in-the-us-semiconductors-auto-industry-and-everyone-else/">https://wolfstreet.com/2024/06/03/eyepopping-factory-construction-boom-in-the-us-semiconductors-auto-industry-and-everyone-else/</a> </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YcYW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F927b5d2d-a3b9-48c7-babc-1d02671a4732_975x768.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YcYW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F927b5d2d-a3b9-48c7-babc-1d02671a4732_975x768.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YcYW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F927b5d2d-a3b9-48c7-babc-1d02671a4732_975x768.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YcYW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F927b5d2d-a3b9-48c7-babc-1d02671a4732_975x768.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YcYW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F927b5d2d-a3b9-48c7-babc-1d02671a4732_975x768.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YcYW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F927b5d2d-a3b9-48c7-babc-1d02671a4732_975x768.png" width="975" height="768" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/927b5d2d-a3b9-48c7-babc-1d02671a4732_975x768.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:768,&quot;width&quot;:975,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>**********</p><p>There was <a href="https://archive.ph/e7f1z#selection-267.0-369.305">a WSJ article</a> some months ago titled &#8220;<em>Capital Is Making a Comeback: Tangible investment will have to increase to meet climate goals, supply-chain pressures, shifting demographics and defense needs.</em>&#8221; </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zS-h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62926311-ee53-4259-8efe-87c7c3ba2ecb_599x263.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zS-h!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62926311-ee53-4259-8efe-87c7c3ba2ecb_599x263.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zS-h!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62926311-ee53-4259-8efe-87c7c3ba2ecb_599x263.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zS-h!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F62926311-ee53-4259-8efe-87c7c3ba2ecb_599x263.png 1272w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The basic idea of this article is that <strong>the U.S. economy is entering a phase where tangible capital investment, such as property, factories, and equipment, needs to increase</strong>. Over the past few decades, intangible investment, such as intellectual property and software, has grown significantly, while tangible investment has stagnated. However, emerging economic challenges, such as decarbonization efforts, reshoring of supply chains, labor market constraints, and defense needs, require a greater focus on tangible capital investment.</p><p>Some investment implications that could be taken from this is that <strong>companies are likely to be investing in tangible capital</strong>, such as property, factories, and equipment to meet new economic demands in the long-term as businesses <strong>attempt to decouple production lines from China (as best they can) to reduce their geopolitical risk<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a></strong>, while also keeping in mind that <strong>rising interest rates have raised the cost of equity and hurdle rates for such capital investment</strong>.</p><p>Note that a business may take 3-6 months to even make a move decision for a single factory and 6-12 months to actually execute the move or switch. Multiply this by the tens of thousands of supply chains that interact with China &#8212;and each other&#8212; and you can see how such a reconfiguration by these collective businesses &#8212;if they are even actually seriously considering such moves&#8212; could take many years to fully play out (as noted by <a href="http://economics-is-a-dogmatic-religion.blogspot.com/">Kris Ektrit</a>).</p><p>The idea (primarily driven by computer, electronic, and electrical manufacturing plants) was also discussed in a more recent WolfStreet post <a href="https://wolfstreet.com/2023/07/03/construction-spending-on-us-manufacturing-plants-soars-to-de-globalize-supply-chains/">here</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>A similar idea to that just described was used as part of the pitch for the de-SPAC combination that brought APi Group, one of the holdings in my portfolio that has now grown to be a relatively significant position is APi Group, public in 2019.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KGQt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F484d229f-2c86-4140-bd10-471ed99b2813_621x523.png" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://s201.q4cdn.com/155847588/files/doc_presentation/2019/08/62ab4-investor-presentation-aug-2019.pdf">https://s201.q4cdn.com/155847588/files/doc_presentation/2019/08/62ab4-investor-presentation-aug-2019.pdf</a></figcaption></figure></div><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>I mean, like when I think about reshoring and things like that, my brain immediately jumps to the semiconductor space and the level of activity that you see going on with the Intels of the world and Micron and some of those other folks, and the capital spending that they have going on in the United States is very, very robust.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- APi CEO, Russ Becker, 4Q2022 earnings call</p></blockquote><p>This business would be a relatively <strong>asset-light</strong><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a><strong> beneficiary of such re-shoring and industrial capex investment trends in the US and Europe</strong> &#8212;with their recent acquisition of Chubb Fire &amp; Security&#8212; and, given it&#8217;s relative size in my portfolio it&#8217;s grown to, I thought I would make a quick post on the business. </p><p>(As I&#8217;m about to actually post this, I&#8217;ll just say: I <em>tried</em> to make it quick).</p><div><hr></div><h1>History</h1><p>All the basics of the business and it&#8217;s history are well covered in the VIC articles and investor presentation here &#8212;partly due to the high profile of the person who brought the company public, this stock is not exactly &#8216;unknown&#8217;&#8212; so I&#8217;ll try to spend only a small amount of time catching up on those things in this post<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> (though I may refer back to them at times):</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/API_Group_Corp/2719259235">https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/API_Group_Corp/2719259235</a> (This one is a slightly out-dated as &#8220;<em><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1796209/000095017022014460/0000950170-22-014460-index.html">[b]eginning with the first quarter of 2022</a>, the Company has combined its Industrial Services and Specialty Services segments into one operating segment</em>&#8221;, but it was the first thing I read on APi and still like it the most in terms of broad information content)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/API_GROUP_CORP/6376374163">https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/API_GROUP_CORP/6376374163</a> </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/API_GROUP_CORP/5702076786">https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/API_GROUP_CORP/5702076786</a> </p></li><li><p><a href="https://s201.q4cdn.com/155847588/files/doc_presentation/2019/08/62ab4-investor-presentation-aug-2019.pdf">https://s201.q4cdn.com/155847588/files/doc_presentation/2019/08/62ab4-investor-presentation-aug-2019.pdf</a> </p></li></ul><p>To add a bit for a longer look back at the company, APi Group Corporation has nearly a century of operating history. Founded in 1926 by Reuben Anderson, later joined by his son Lee Anderson in the early 60s, the company started as a small fire protection services provider in Minnesota and has since grown to become one of the largest providers of specialty services in North America; my understanding is that it was Lee who was largely responsible for ramping up APi&#8217;s self-funded, bolt-on rollup strategy around the 1970s and 80s that has continued to this day<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>. </p><p>In 2002, Russ Becker became the CEO of APi Group at age 35, succeeding Jeff Jessen &#8212;apparently Jessen was experiencing mental health issues and made the decision to petition Lee Anderson, who at this point was now only acting as APi&#8217;s Chairman, for Becker to take the spot despite his age<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a>. </p><p>In <a href="https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/j2-acquisition-limited-completes-acquisition-of-api-group-300928895.html">2019</a> &#8212;before the big SPAC boom of 2020-2021&#8212; APi Group Corporation was acquired by J2 Acquisition IV Limited, a special purpose acquisition company (SPAC) founded by Jarden veterans Martin Franklin, Jim Lillie, and Ian Ashken whose SPAC <a href="https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/JTWO/results-of-ipo-of-j2-acquisition-limited-q284uu06f51lhpz.html">IPO&#8217;ed in 2017</a> on the UK&#8217;s LSE and domiciled in the British Virgin Isles; Russ Becker and APi's existing management team remained in place; Franklin, Lillie, and Ashken assumed Chiarman, Co-Chairman, and Director roles at APi Group Corporation, respectively; Becker was also made a director<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a>. </p><p>Looking at the J2&#8217;s <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1796209/000119312520096159/d827912ds4.htm">S4 filing</a> is appears that Lee Anderson is no longer associated with APi Group in any major way, I don&#8217;t know the details on why. After the de-SPAC combination was completed, APi Group became a publicly traded company on the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker symbol APG<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a>. </p><h3>Some commentary on the J2 SPAC and the incentives structure</h3><p>The <strong>repute of the company&#8217;s new chairman (which I will cover later), asset-light characteristics of the work, and &#8212;as the company continually likes to point out&#8212; the &#8220;statutorily mandated&#8221; nature of the business</strong> were interesting, but the thing that got me over the edge in terms of being interested enough to look further into the name was <strong>the way this UK SPAC differed from the US SPACs</strong> that were only just beginning to gain popularity in the market at the time that APG&#8217;s SPAC was launched. This was in terms of their Founder Shares &#8212;which in US SPACs often act like massive (relatively) free call options afforded to the SPAC sponsor:</p><blockquote><p><em>In the US, a typical SPAC structure involved shareholders paying in $10 cash to receive one share + some portion of a warrant (1/4 warrant to a full warrant typically). The Sponsor puts up capital and then goes and finds a business combination. They receive large earn-out incentives for free in the US, and once an acquisition is announced, shareholders make a decision to redeem for cash in trust (the initial $10 + interest between the SPAC IPO and redemption date), getting to keep their warrant (or sell it to the market). While US SPACs can often create tremendous trading opportunities as well for technical reasons, management and shareholders are not always completely aligned as management gets free earn-out shares for completing a deal, often receiving a return of &gt;5.0x their capital even if the stock doesn&#8217;t appreciate from $10.</em></p><p><em>UK SPACs are different. There are no free earn-out shares for investors, and there is also no redemption date that creates liquidity for investors at trust. <strong>Thus, you are in the same boat as Martin Franklin and J2 in this case, as they buy in at the same price you do with no extra incentives (in fact you are getting a discount at these latest levels). And with no redemption opportunity</strong>, it creates an incentive for certain investors to sell in the market, creating a liquidity event. &#8212;- </em><a href="https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/API_Group_Corp/2719259235">https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/API_Group_Corp/2719259235</a></p></blockquote><p>The SPAC sponsors, who collectively owned around 8% of the business, were <strong>sharing the same upside and downside economics as the other ordinary share investors</strong> &#8212;rather than the sponsor attempting to fund or promote the creation of a call option that they would have bought for fractions of a cent. <em>(At times, the common shares traded below trust value, so you were actually getting a discount to the price they paid)</em>.</p><p>In &#8220;<em><a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14735970.2022.2036413">Warning the UK on Special Purpose Acquisition Companies (SPACs): great for Wall Street but a nightmare on Main Street</a></em>&#8221;, the authors shed some light on some of the conflicting incentives between management and common shareholders when it comes to US SPACs. Typically, in the US, in addition to any common stock that a sponsor might purchase, SPAC sponsors pay a nominal $25,000 for X &#8220;Founder&#8217;s Shares&#8221; or &#8220;Promote&#8221;, where X = &#8216;whatever amount of total issued shares equals 20% voting power at the company&#8217; (this also comes with dilution protection in the event of further capital raises, pre-deSPAC). </p><p>That is, they are paying a fixed $25,000 for 20% of a business that can be priced in the hundreds of millions or into the billions at the time of the de-SPAC IPO (recall that everyone else must pay the standard $10/sh for the common shares); this amounts to sponsors paying fractions of a cent for shares that come to trade at or above the $10 price level. These &#8220;Founder&#8217;s Shares&#8221; are usually subject to a lock-up period of the sooner of either 12 months or &#8212;what is essentially&#8212; a sustained &#8216;strike price&#8217; of 15% above the trust value of $10/sh before being able to cash out on that huge spread on their Founder Shares.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> </p><p>Also mentioned in that paper, &#8220;<em>a handful of UK SPAC sponsors invested in SPAC shares solely on the same terms as IPO investors, and retained a majority of the equity post-IPO &#8211; these are different beasts to US SPACs and represent bespoke investment vehicles where the sponsor is seeking further (institutional) minority support to make acquisitions. The sponsor retains the majority of the upside and downside risk.</em>&#8221;; they name AIQ Limited, Honye Financial Services Ltd, and Sivota plc. This was also the case &#8212;to a degree&#8212; with Franklin&#8217;s J2 Acquisition Ltd. From the <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1796209/000119312520118376/d827912ds4a.htm">S4 filing</a>:</p><blockquote><p><em>In connection with the initial public offering on October&nbsp;10, 2017, we issued 121,000,000 of our ordinary shares, no par value, for gross proceeds of $1.21 billion. In addition, on October&nbsp;10, 2017, we issued an aggregate of 32,500 ordinary shares to our non-founder directors for $10.00 per share in lieu of their first year cash director fees. Each APG ordinary share has voting rights and winding-up rights. In connection with the October&nbsp;10, 2017 initial public offering and listing on the LSE, <strong>Mariposa Acquisition IV, LLC (the &#8220;Founder Entity&#8221;) purchased 4,000,000 preferred shares, no par value, for $40 million (the &#8220;Founder Preferred Shares&#8221;).</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>Founder Preferred Shares</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>In connection with the IPO, the Company issued 4,000,000 preferred shares (the Founder Preferred Shares) at $10 per share to Mariposa Acquisition IV, LLC (the Founder Entity) an entity controlled by the Founders.</strong></em></p></blockquote><p>That is, Mariposa Acquisition IV LLC, Franklin&#8217;s subsidiary through which he and the other J2 co-founders owned their Founder Shares and ordinary stock, paid the same as the initial price of the ordinary shares in the SPAC.</p><p>.</p><p><strong>However, I&#8217;d also note that these Founder Preferred Shares owned by Franklin also entitle him to a 20% annual performance fee</strong> (or &#8220;<em>dividend</em>&#8221;, as it&#8217;s described in SPAC&#8217;s <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1796209/000119312520096159/d827912ds4.htm">S4 filing</a>) &#8212;something that you&#8217;d more typically see at a hedge fund than at an operating business&#8212; based on annual high-water marks of the stock price for the first 7yrs of the company, post-de-SPAC combination (starting from the SPAC&#8217;s IPO trust value of $10/sh). Note that that 20% is not just for the fraction of the company voting power embedded in the Founder Shares, but <strong>on the value of the total 141,194,638 common stock equal to the number of APG ordinary shares</strong> outstanding immediately following the APi Acquisition.</p><p>These were later converted to <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1796209/000156459021014986/apg-10k_20201231.htm">Series A Preferred Stock</a> when the SPAC <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1796209/000119312520220424/d57590d424b3.htm">changed its jurisdiction</a> of incorporation from the British Virgin Islands to the State of Delaware, but the terms remain the same; from the S4 filing:</p><blockquote><p><em>Beginning in 2019, if the average stock price of our ordinary shares exceeds $11.50 per share for any ten (10)&nbsp;consecutive trading days of the calendar year, the holder of Founder Preferred Shares will receive a dividend in the form of APG ordinary shares or cash, at our sole option (which we intend to settle in shares). The first annual dividend amount will be <strong>equal to 20% of the appreciation, if any, of the average market price per share of APG ordinary shares for the last ten (10)&nbsp;trading days of the calendar year (the &#8220;Dividend Price&#8221;)</strong> over the Company&#8217;s initial offering price of $10.00 per share, <strong>multiplied by 141,194,638 shares</strong> (the &#8220;Annual Dividend Amount&#8221;). <strong>In subsequent years, the Annual Dividend Amount</strong></em><strong> </strong><em><strong>will be calculated based on the appreciated stock price compared to the highest Dividend Price previously used in calculating the Annual Dividend Amount</strong>. </em></p><p><em>[&#8230;]</em></p><p><em><strong>Each Founder Preferred Share will automatically convert into one Ordinary Share [&#8230;] immediately upon the last day of the seventh full Financial Year of the Company after completion of the Acquisition</strong>, or, if such date is not a Trading Day, on the first Trading Day immediately following such date (the Conversion Date).</em></p><p><em>[&#8230;]</em></p><p><em><strong>141,194,638 shares, being a number of shares of APG Delaware common stock equal to the number of APG ordinary shares outstanding immediately following the APi Acquisition</strong>, including any APG ordinary shares issued pursuant to the exercise of APG Warrants, but excluding any APG ordinary shares issued to shareholders or other beneficial owners of APi Group, Inc. in connection with the APi Acquisition, which such number of shares is subject to adjustment as provided in the APG Delaware certificate of incorporation) (the &#8220;Series A Preferred Dividend Equivalent&#8221;).</em></p></blockquote><p>(<em>You can find more information about this by doing a word search for &#8220;Series A Preferred Stock&#8221; in the company&#8217;s 10K filings; examples can be seen in the SEC Form 4 filings <a href="https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/?r=el#/q=dividend&amp;dateRange=10y&amp;category=form-cat2&amp;ciks=0001796209&amp;entityName=APi%2520Group%2520Corp%2520(CIK%25200001796209)">here</a> and <a href="https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/?r=el#/q=%2522Series%2520A%2520Preferred%2520Stock%2522&amp;dateRange=10y&amp;category=form-cat2&amp;ciks=0001796209&amp;entityName=APi%2520Group%2520Corp%2520(CIK%25200001796209)">here</a></em>).</p><p>And if APG ever pays a dividend to us regular common stock shareholders, Mariposa will still get their pound of flesh on that value leaving the business to shareholder&#8217;s pockets:</p><blockquote><p><em>In addition, if the Company pays a dividend on its common shares, the Series A Preferred Stock holders will also receive an amount equal to 20% of the dividend which would be distributable on 141,194,638 of common shares.</em> &#8212;- APi 2022 10K</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1QKM!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb4a2021-39ea-49af-8e71-9df47c33cfff_480x270.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1QKM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb4a2021-39ea-49af-8e71-9df47c33cfff_480x270.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1QKM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb4a2021-39ea-49af-8e71-9df47c33cfff_480x270.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1QKM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb4a2021-39ea-49af-8e71-9df47c33cfff_480x270.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1QKM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb4a2021-39ea-49af-8e71-9df47c33cfff_480x270.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1QKM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb4a2021-39ea-49af-8e71-9df47c33cfff_480x270.gif" width="480" height="270" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bb4a2021-39ea-49af-8e71-9df47c33cfff_480x270.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:270,&quot;width&quot;:480,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Banking on Bitcoin &#8212; Pandemic Stimulus Debt &amp; Keeping Score | by Patrick  Tan | The Capital Platform | Medium&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Banking on Bitcoin &#8212; Pandemic Stimulus Debt &amp; Keeping Score | by Patrick  Tan | The Capital Platform | Medium" title="Banking on Bitcoin &#8212; Pandemic Stimulus Debt &amp; Keeping Score | by Patrick  Tan | The Capital Platform | Medium" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1QKM!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb4a2021-39ea-49af-8e71-9df47c33cfff_480x270.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1QKM!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb4a2021-39ea-49af-8e71-9df47c33cfff_480x270.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1QKM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb4a2021-39ea-49af-8e71-9df47c33cfff_480x270.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1QKM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbb4a2021-39ea-49af-8e71-9df47c33cfff_480x270.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Furthermore, Franklin also entitled himself to a fixed management fee for co-chairing the APi board (in lieu of any other compensation as a board member)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a>:</p><blockquote><p><em>Advisory Services Agreement</em></p><p><em>On October&nbsp;1, 2019, APG entered into an Advisory Services Agreement with Mariposa Capital, LLC, an affiliate of Mr.&nbsp;Franklin. Under this agreement, Mariposa Capital, LLC agreed to provide certain services, including corporate development and advisory services, advisory services with respect to mergers and acquisitions, investor relations services, strategic planning advisory services, capital expenditure allocation advisory services, strategic treasury advisory services and such other services relating to APG as may from time to time be mutually agreed. <strong>In connection with these services, Mariposa Capital, LLC is entitled to receive an annual fee equal to $4,000,000, payable in quarterly installments</strong>.</em></p></blockquote><p>This slightly greater than the combined total of Russ Becker&#8217;s base 2022 salary plus all of the directors&#8217; combined compensation (including Lillie and Ashken).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a> It&#8217;s even more than Becker&#8217;s base salary + STI cash comp for 2022. Of course he also owns a lot more APG stock then the rest; Franklin controlled 10% of APG voting power per the 2022 proxy; APG&#8217;s market cap at 2022 year end was $4.3bn; $4MM/yr would <strong>amount to a 1% management fee on the value of his voting power</strong> (4000000 / (4300000000 x 0.10) = 0.0093) &#8212;and will be an even smaller ratio going forward as APi grows.</p><p>.</p><p>In total, APG&#8217;s beneficial ownership in <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1796209/000119312520096159/d827912ds4.htm">the S4</a> looked like this (<em>Lillie and Ashken&#8217;s ownership stake being indirectly through their perspective LLCs each owning a 20% interest in Mariposa Acquisition IV LLC, the Founder Entity</em>)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a>:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ekRv!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51327673-e80d-4905-ac64-f8b3ef56be7e_1463x778.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ekRv!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51327673-e80d-4905-ac64-f8b3ef56be7e_1463x778.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ekRv!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51327673-e80d-4905-ac64-f8b3ef56be7e_1463x778.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OBeB!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5a3fe25e-0d3a-4791-aa02-c7542c6ddbfc_1664x1132.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OBeB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5a3fe25e-0d3a-4791-aa02-c7542c6ddbfc_1664x1132.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!OBeB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5a3fe25e-0d3a-4791-aa02-c7542c6ddbfc_1664x1132.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0001796209/000119312523126303/d472160ddef14a.htm#toc472160_42">https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/0001796209/000119312523126303/d472160ddef14a.htm#toc472160_42</a>; unless I&#8217;m looking at the Form 4s wrong, I&#8217;m pretty sure the growth in shares by the Jarden gang is solely due to the &#8220;dividend&#8221; accrued to Mariposa Acquisition IV; note that these numbers mix in the various LLC interests involved in Mariposa Acquisition IV all under Franklin in this table</figcaption></figure></div><h3>A quick note Viking Global Investors, LP</h3><p>You may have noticed the other large beneficial owner in those previous tables, Viking Global Investors. They are a large, long/short, bottom-up, global equity fund founded in 1999 by &#8220;Tiger Cub&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a> Ole Andreas Halvorsen that partnered with Franklin et al in 2017 to form J2 Acquisition, though I don&#8217;t think they receive any special treatment re. their ownership as it appears to be based wholly on ordinary shares (as opposed to the situations with Mariposa Acquisition and APi&#8217;s agreements with Mariposa Capital). </p><p>I don&#8217;t really have an opinion on them one way or another, but a flattering bio on Halvorsen and Viking Global can be found <a href="https://www.insidermonkey.com/hedge-fund/viking+global/31/">here</a>:</p><blockquote><p><em>Ole Andreas Halvorsen is one of the most successful Tiger cubs. Norwegian Halvorsen launched Viking Global at the end of 1999 with former Tiger employees David Ott and Brian Olson. Viking Global returned an astonishing 89% after fees in its first full year.Viking is a long/short global equity fund with a bottom-up stock picking approach. Brian Olson left Viking in 2005 and David Ott stepped down in 2010. Between June 2005 (when Ott became the CIO of Viking) and March 2010, Viking Global returned 119% vs. 11% for the MSCI World Index. Viking Global charges 1.5% management fees and 20% incentive fees from investors. Viking Global Equities lost 1.9% in 2008, gained 20% in 2009, and returned 3.8% in 2010.</em></p></blockquote><p>I would note, however, that the fund&#8217;s public holdings over the most recent decade have had a history underwhelming returns, with an average return of 7.30% since its last 13F filing and a portfolio gain of 72.39% since June 2013 compared to the S&amp;P 500&#8217;s 210.54% total return<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a>. (Of course, if Howard Marks is to be believed, per his &#8220;<em><a href="https://www.oaktreecapital.com/insights/memo/sea-change">Sea Change</a></em>&#8221; memo, or Seth Klarman is correct in his declaration of a current &#8220;<em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPS1rHNawLE">everything bubble</a></em>&#8221;, then this streak of passive over active may be coming to an end with a new era of sustained elevated interest rates).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Grw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b930cc9-82fc-4490-a0c7-ec6ee1bc88d1_1268x423.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Grw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b930cc9-82fc-4490-a0c7-ec6ee1bc88d1_1268x423.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Grw!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b930cc9-82fc-4490-a0c7-ec6ee1bc88d1_1268x423.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Grw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b930cc9-82fc-4490-a0c7-ec6ee1bc88d1_1268x423.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Grw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b930cc9-82fc-4490-a0c7-ec6ee1bc88d1_1268x423.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Grw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1b930cc9-82fc-4490-a0c7-ec6ee1bc88d1_1268x423.png" width="1268" height="423" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1b930cc9-82fc-4490-a0c7-ec6ee1bc88d1_1268x423.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:423,&quot;width&quot;:1268,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:88411,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.tipranks.com/experts/hedge-funds/andreas-halvorsen">https://www.tipranks.com/experts/hedge-funds/andreas-halvorsen</a>; <em>I assume that benchmark in the image is the HFRI equity hedge index</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>While the fund is not run in a particularly concentrated way, I would note that APG is among their top 10 positions, making up 3.5% of their public portfolio<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a>.</p><p>Cliffwater Investment Advisory Services wrote a due diligence report on Viking Global and you can read the redacted version here for a bit more information if you&#8217;d like: <a href="http://data.treasury.ri.gov/dataset/96dcb86f-e97e-4b05-8ce2-a40289e477a6/resource/2b75c192-dabc-4e0d-98c4-9a4f80688156/download/Viking-Investment-Due-Diligence-ReportRedacted.pdf">http://data.treasury.ri.gov/dataset/96dcb86f-e97e-4b05-8ce2-a40289e477a6/resource/2b75c192-dabc-4e0d-98c4-9a4f80688156/download/Viking-Investment-Due-Diligence-ReportRedacted.pdf</a></p><div><hr></div><h1>The business</h1><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>It was just over three years ago that we first met Russ and discussed building a business together, primarily based on our view that a statutorily required services strategy is economically resilient, and that these activities were necessary no matter what the economic climate might be.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Martin Franklin, 1Q2022 earnings call</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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I will briefly go over them here as well.</p><h2>Life and fire safety</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Irxr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F30899f1a-5843-40d2-a859-062bfe6856c1_972x640.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Irxr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F30899f1a-5843-40d2-a859-062bfe6856c1_972x640.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Irxr!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F30899f1a-5843-40d2-a859-062bfe6856c1_972x640.png 848w, 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APG is <a href="https://www.levelset.com/news/the-10-biggest-fire-protection-sprinkler-contractors-in-the-u-s-in-2022/">the largest</a> provider of life and fire safety services in North America, Asia Pacific, and Europe. They offer a wide range of services, including design, installation, inspection, monitoring, and service of fire protection systems, HVAC systems, and entry systems. APi services a variety of industries and facilities, including commercial, education, healthcare, high tech, industrial, and special-hazard settings.</p><p>.</p><p>When you walk into a commercial building, you may not think about the <a href="https://www.api-nsg.com/water-based-systems.php">fire sprinkler system</a> or fire alarms hidden in the ceiling; <strong>these systems and services are all generally mandated by the government to be installed and maintained by businesses</strong>. While the majority of rules about fire sprinkler systems come from local jurisdictions and municipalities<strong>, </strong>the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) is the main organization that sets the standards for fire safety including fire sprinkler system requirements. According to Regulation NFPA 13, established in 1896, all newly constructed commercial buildings that are 5,000 square feet or larger are required to have fire sprinkler systems. In addition, any remodels that add square feet to an existing commercial building so that its footprint is 12,000 square feet or more mandates installation of a fire sprinkler system.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a></p><p>In the US, I believe that public schools are generally required to practice fire drills at least twice a semester &#8212;it&#8217;s been a while for me. APi Group's Life and Fire Safety business may have helped to install the fire alarm system used in any particular school&#8217;s fire drills (eg. via their <a href="https://www.api-nsg.com/government.php">1GPA subsidiary</a>). APG also provides <a href="https://www.api-nsg.com/alarm-detection.php">detection and alarm</a> systems as well as <a href="https://www.api-nsg.com/emergency-exit-lighting.php">emergency and exit lighting</a> devices.</p><p>If you work in a high-tech facility, you may have a fire suppression system that uses a special type of gas to extinguish fires. APi Group's Life and Fire Safety business may have helped to design, install, and maintain that system; for example, foam, gas, and wet/dry chemical <a href="https://www.api-nsg.com/suppression-systems.php">suppression systems</a>.</p><p>With the recent APi acquisition of the Europe-based Chubb, I will also mention that the same government regulations that mandate the installation, maintenance, and monitoring of fire safety systems in the US, generally, appear to have European counterparts as well. For example, The Building Regulations for England and Wales states in part that, "<em>The building shall be designed and constructed so that there are appropriate provisions for the early warning of fire</em>.&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a></p><p>.</p><p>Profits here are tied to the pricing and pass-through of material and labor costs as well as to contract volumes (which APi measures through labor hours).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a></p><p>.</p><p>Other than initial installation of sprinkler systems &#8212;where a large capital expense per project is the cost of copper&#8212; the <strong>inspection, servicing, and monitoring aspects of the fire safety business are relatively &#8220;asset-light&#8221;</strong> &#8212;this phrase was used by management at least once in the last four or five earnings calls&#8212; with costs mostly being that of skilled labor and subcontracts (so are also less likely to be disrupted by AI and automation). These latter sub-segments also have <strong>the favorable characteristic of representing </strong><em><strong>recurring</strong></em><strong> contractual income</strong>. Working capital is primarily affected by changes in total accounts receivable, accounts payable, accrued expenses, and contract assets and contract liabilities, all of which tend to be related and are affected by changes in the timing and volume of work performed.</p><p>From the 2022 10K: </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>We also have a stable cash flow profile driven by our focus on recurring services-based revenue and our <strong>asset-light business model, which requires minimal ongoing capital expenditures (which are typically approximately 1.5% of total net revenues). The mission-critical nature of our services and regulatory-driven inspection requirements provide predictable, recurring revenue stream opportunities</strong>. Maintenance and services revenues are less cyclical, and are reasonably recurring due to the consistent renewal rates and deep customer relationships.</em>&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;<em>We believe maintenance and service revenues are generally more predictable through contractual arrangements with typical terms ranging from days to three years, with the majority having short durations and are <strong>often recurring due to consistent renewal rates and long-standing customer relationships</strong>.</em>&#8221;</p><p>&#8216;<em>Labor intensive contracts usually drive higher margins than those contracts that include material, subcontract, and equipment costs. [&#8230;] an improved mix of <strong>inspection, service, and monitoring revenue, which generates higher margins</strong>, and growth within the Safety Services segment.</em>&#8217;</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5aW_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60a98aff-7810-43a1-8ec0-2bb68ca8d923_1000x600.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5aW_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60a98aff-7810-43a1-8ec0-2bb68ca8d923_1000x600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5aW_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60a98aff-7810-43a1-8ec0-2bb68ca8d923_1000x600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5aW_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60a98aff-7810-43a1-8ec0-2bb68ca8d923_1000x600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5aW_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60a98aff-7810-43a1-8ec0-2bb68ca8d923_1000x600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5aW_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60a98aff-7810-43a1-8ec0-2bb68ca8d923_1000x600.png" width="1000" height="600" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/60a98aff-7810-43a1-8ec0-2bb68ca8d923_1000x600.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:600,&quot;width&quot;:1000,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:52623,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5aW_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60a98aff-7810-43a1-8ec0-2bb68ca8d923_1000x600.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5aW_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60a98aff-7810-43a1-8ec0-2bb68ca8d923_1000x600.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5aW_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60a98aff-7810-43a1-8ec0-2bb68ca8d923_1000x600.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5aW_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60a98aff-7810-43a1-8ec0-2bb68ca8d923_1000x600.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>Specialty services</h2><p>Generating 30% of net 2022 revenues, APi Group's Specialty Services business provides of infrastructure services and specialized industrial plant solutions. They offer a diverse range of services, including the installation, maintenance, and repair of critical infrastructure such as underground electric, gas, water, sewer, (electricity and fuel) transmission, and telecom infrastructure. Their customer base includes public and private utilities, communications companies, industrial plants, and government agencies.</p><p>Specialty Services is <strong>recognized as one of the top five firms in North America for specialized services</strong>, as reported by industry source <a href="https://www.enr.com/toplists/2022-Top-600-Specialty-Contractors-Preview">ENR (Engineering-News Record)</a>; which Wikipedia claims (without citation, I will add) is &#8220;<em>one of the construction industry's most authoritative publications and is considered by many to be the "bible" of the industry.</em>&#8221; </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!UMmZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F361dfba0-0780-45ed-b09c-4478dd12e2cb_949x360.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>With 40% of the segment catering to the telecom market, they are <strong>well-positioned in an acyclical industry</strong> with tailwinds from emerging use cases for 5G, cloud computing, and blockchain systems<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-19" href="#footnote-19" target="_self">19</a>. </p><p>The Specialty Services segment <strong>mitigates contract risk and raw material/input mismatch risk due to the relatively small project size and short contract lengths APi typically handles</strong>. Per Russ Becker at the 2Q2022 earnings call, the &#8220;<em>average project size is approximately $5,000 in our largest segment, Safety Services, and $75,000 in Specialty Services&#8221;</em>; per the 2022 10K, APi &#8220;<em>derives</em> <em>net revenues primarily from contracts with a <strong>duration of less than one week to three years (with the majority of contracts with durations of less than six months)</strong> which are subject to multiple pricing options, including fixed price, unit price, time and material, or cost plus a markup.</em>&#8221;</p><p>Similar as with the Fire Safety segment, their Specialty Services prioritizes integrity services, which are <strong>statutorily required, ensuring a stable revenue stream</strong>.</p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;[W]e remain focused on growing the integrity side of pipeline transmission, which is statutorily driven, as transmission companies are required by law to maintain their existing pipeline systems to ensure they are safe.&#8221;</em> &#8212;- APi CFO Tom Lydon, 1Q2021 earnings call </p></blockquote><p>.</p><p>As with the Fire Safety segment, profits here are tied to the pricing and pass-through of material and labor costs as well as to contract volumes (which APi measures through labor hours).</p><p>.</p><p>Excess earnings estimated from APG&#8217;s contractual backlog are recorded in the 10K under intangibles in their consolidated financial statements, but unfortunately contracts are not broken down into segments or sub-segments (so far as I can find). As Becker points out in the 4Q2022 earnings call: &#8220;<em><strong>And when we first started talking about backlog, we reminded everybody that, that's actually not the greatest metric to measure us by</strong>. And because with the processes that we have from a project selection and customer selection, we actually wouldn't mind seeing our backlog shrink a little bit because it would show  &#8212;it would demonstrate to us that we're being more disciplined with the work that we pursue. And <strong>the quality of the backlog</strong> is going to have better margins in it as we work our way through 2023.</em>&#8221;</p><p>That is, given APG&#8217;s overall strategy, what you would want to see is this contractual backlog 1) growing, yes, but 2) that growth being from more contracts related to the higher-margin fire safety servicing and monitoring work (and the inspection work that APG uses to launch cross-selling opportunities); this would indicate that APi&#8217;s go-to-market strategy is working. This info is not currently dis-aggregated in the 10K, so we must rely on the earnings calls.</p><h2>Strategy</h2><h3>Decentralized</h3><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>We believe our practice of conferring significant authority upon the management of our subsidiaries has been important to our successful growth and has allowed us to be responsive to opportunities and to our customers&#8217; needs. We seek to maintain business continuity within our subsidiaries while identifying and implementing operational efficiencies, cost synergies, and integration of organizational processes across these companies.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- APi Group 2022 10K </p></blockquote><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>We work every piece of our business. <strong>It's like having multiple children in your family, right? And I've heard Jim use this analogy a number of different times and every one of your kids is in a different place. And not every kid is as healthy as the other one, and you still need to give them all the right level of attention</strong>. And I think that's a really good analogy when you look at a company like us with 20-plus businesses and across it.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Russ Becker, 1Q2021 earnings call</p></blockquote><p>Franklin&#8217;s previous Jarden Corporation, operating in the consumer products industry, adopted decentralization to manage a diverse portfolio of brands across different sectors. By allowing each brand to operate autonomously, Jarden subsidiaries were able to make decisions tailored to their specific markets. A similar decentralized approach existed at APi Group long before Franklin&#8217;s involvement and was significant factor in J2 selecting APi as the company they ultimately combined with.</p><p>The advantages of a decentralized organizational model include enhanced agility, as <strong>decision-making is streamlined and responsive to market changes</strong>. The idea is that ,in a decentralized structure, employees have greater autonomy and ownership which aligns incentives towards fostering creativity and innovation. <strong>Local market knowledge</strong> also becomes a strategic advantage, as decentralized units can tailor their growth strategies to specific customer preferences. Additionally, <strong>risk diversification</strong> is achieved through the operation of multiple decentralized units, minimizing the impact of challenges on the overall organization as well as allowing for the possibility of the <strong>many small experiments</strong> across units to find larger success and propagate through the organization.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-20" href="#footnote-20" target="_self">20</a></p><p>However, challenges accompany decentralization; Coordination can become complex, resulting in inconsistencies, duplicated efforts, or conflicting strategies. </p><p>APi has spent millions on leadership programs for the purpose of training employees to lead business units, branch offices, or large departments within operating companies and APi Group. In the 1Q2022 earnings call, Becker notes that &#8220;<em>We have spent approximately $30 million on leadership development over the past five years, and plan to continue to invest in and support our leadership development culture, which we believe empowers the leaders across our businesses, drives business performance, and increases future cross selling opportunities. This investment is unique in our industry, and we believe that it is a competitive advantage.</em>&#8221; </p><p>Per the 2022 10K, APi businesses &#8220;<em>benefit from direct access to the APG network, which facilitates organizational sharing of knowledge and best practices, increases collaboration across our businesses and develops cross-brand solutions which foster enhanced experience, quality, and efficiency.</em>&#8221; </p><p>.</p><p>(The 10K also indicates that the structure of the company encourages a &#8220;<em>business-owner mindset</em>&#8221;. I&#8217;d like to believe it, but I need to see more on the specific compensation incentives at the branch and unit levels before repeating that line with my whole chest.)</p><h3>Rollups/bolt-ons</h3><blockquote><p><em>Analyst:</em> &#8220;<em><strong>You obviously have a record for acquiring smaller assets in the mid-single digit EBITDA, Chubb and SK in the low teens</strong>. Can you help us understand how you're able to increase deals at substantially lower multiples for these assets, especially given the current environment and what private equities pay for these things these days?</em>&#8221;</p><p><em>Lillie:</em> &#8220;<em>[&#8230;] And we still see opportunities in that 4x to 6x range. I would say that the difference for us is that we feel that we have a very compelling story to tell and that <strong>we are a very attractive home for many of these smaller, family-owned businesses that are looking to sell their company and sell their company not only to help them with the long-term exit but also find the right place for their employees</strong>.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Co-Chairman Jim Lillie, 3Q2021 earnings call</p></blockquote><p>Franklin and the Jarden team appear to be attempting to replicate their previous Jarden success by scaling up the decentralized roll-up growth strategy that was already present at APi Group long before the de-SPAC combination that brought it public. </p><p>The rollup strategy works in several ways: 1) APi is able to find <strong>good businesses that can be bought at good prices</strong> for the amounts that they can afford to internally finance at the time, or 2) acquirees are <strong>optimized/rationalized by APi management who have experience integrating 85+ bolt-ons</strong> into APi since 2005<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-21" href="#footnote-21" target="_self">21</a> and 3) earnings from smaller acquirees that are <strong>bolted-on to APi then have the benefit of adding to APG&#8217;s P/E valuation multiple</strong>. These acquisitions are regularly reported in APG&#8217;s 10K in a &#8220;<em>Business Combinations</em>&#8221; note in the consolidated financial statements.</p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/marketeuphoria">@marketeuphoria</a>, who initially shared with me a lot of interesting info on the business (and authored the Jan 2023 VIC article cited at the beginning of this post), referred to this last point as &#8220;<em>the additional arbitrage opportunity that exists by immediately porting a ~7x EBITDA business into one valued at ~10x (potentially higher).</em><strong>&#8221;</strong></p><p>(<em>Of course you also have to wonder about if this is just an accounting trick vs an actual value add worthy of a markup on the subsumed acquiree and their contributing earnings; do ostensibly lower-quality earnings deserve to be capitalized at a higher multiple just because they&#8217;re now under the APi brand? If you fill a nice house with cheap garbage is that house really more valuable? Really reliant on management&#8217;s acquisition acumen and the permeation of APi&#8217;s culture in this regard.</em>)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vYWQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14a922e8-92ce-47dc-b498-4194883d4a3e_1768x638.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vYWQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14a922e8-92ce-47dc-b498-4194883d4a3e_1768x638.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vYWQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14a922e8-92ce-47dc-b498-4194883d4a3e_1768x638.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vYWQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14a922e8-92ce-47dc-b498-4194883d4a3e_1768x638.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vYWQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14a922e8-92ce-47dc-b498-4194883d4a3e_1768x638.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vYWQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14a922e8-92ce-47dc-b498-4194883d4a3e_1768x638.png" width="1456" height="525" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/14a922e8-92ce-47dc-b498-4194883d4a3e_1768x638.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:525,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:260931,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vYWQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14a922e8-92ce-47dc-b498-4194883d4a3e_1768x638.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vYWQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14a922e8-92ce-47dc-b498-4194883d4a3e_1768x638.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vYWQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14a922e8-92ce-47dc-b498-4194883d4a3e_1768x638.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vYWQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F14a922e8-92ce-47dc-b498-4194883d4a3e_1768x638.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://s201.q4cdn.com/155847588/files/doc_presentation/2019/08/62ab4-investor-presentation-aug-2019.pdf">https://s201.q4cdn.com/155847588/files/doc_presentation/2019/08/62ab4-investor-presentation-aug-2019.pdf</a> ; it would have been nice to see a fuller history here, especially how they behaved in 2008</em>)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-22" href="#footnote-22" target="_self">22</a></p><p>.</p><p>These rollups have also resulted in a business that is diversified across many geographies, industries, and customers. </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>We have repeat revenue from a diverse set of long-standing blue chip customers who are spread across a variety of end markets and geographies with low concentration. [...]</em> <em><strong>We serve customers in both the public and private sectors, including commercial, industrial, distribution and fulfillment centers, manufacturing, education, healthcare, telecom, utilities, transmission, high tech, entertainment, and government</strong>. Our customers range from Fortune 500 companies with diverse, worldwide operations to single-location companies. <strong>We have low customer concentration with no single customer accounting for more than 5% of our total net revenues for 2022</strong>.</em>&#8221; &#8212; <a href="https://s201.q4cdn.com/155847588/files/doc_financials/2022/ar/APG-2022-Annual-Report_Final.pdf">https://s201.q4cdn.com/155847588/files/doc_financials/2022/ar/APG-2022-Annual-Report_Final.pdf</a>&nbsp;</p></blockquote><p>.</p><p>From the great compiler and summarizer Michael Mauboussin&#8217;s 2022 &#8220;<em><a href="https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_capitalallocation.pdf">Capital Allocation</a></em>&#8221; paper:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Deals between companies with similar operations generate healthier results than those that seek to transform the business. <strong>With operational deals, the core businesses of the target and the acquirer are related.</strong> [&#8230;] <strong>Companies with specialized M&amp;A teams generally outperform those without dedicated professionals</strong>. These teams are made up of employees who spend the majority of their time analyzing the industry, competitors, customers, and possible targets.</em>&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>&#8230; &#8220;Operational deals&#8221; had already been APi&#8217;s primary focus for decades and, with the joining of the Jarden veterans, APi now has an expanded dedicated M&amp;A team beyond Becker.</p><h3>GTM inspection-to-monitoring cross-sell pipeline</h3><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;We continue to <strong>build a national and coordinated inspection sales</strong> force to drive our go-to-market strategy of <strong>selling inspection work first</strong>, which we believe will lead to further service revenue growth. In most cases, our inspection work is covered by statutory requirements. <strong>Nearly all facilities that have existing life safety systems are required by law to have that system inspected on an annual basis</strong>, regardless of whether the facility is filled the capacity or empty. Historically, <strong>for every dollar of inspection revenue, we have the opportunity to generate between $3 and $4 of service work</strong>.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Russ Becker, 4Q2020 earnings call</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1iZN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d8818cf-694d-4eaa-b177-64dad833619c_2432x1274.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1iZN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0d8818cf-694d-4eaa-b177-64dad833619c_2432x1274.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://s201.q4cdn.com/155847588/files/doc_presentation/2022/07/37d06-api-presentation-for-cjs-conference_final-july-12-2022.pdf">https://s201.q4cdn.com/155847588/files/doc_presentation/2022/07/37d06-api-presentation-for-cjs-conference_final-july-12-2022.pdf</a>; I will note that nothing really seems to stop comps from mimicking APi&#8217;s business model</figcaption></figure></div><p>APi Group's go-to-market strategy in Safety Services is to <strong>sell inspection work first, as it estimates that for every dollar generated from inspection work, it believes it can generate $3-$4 of service and monitoring revenue</strong>; all of this work is <strong>statutorily mandated</strong> for businesses. The company's goal is to <strong>have 60%+ of its revenue</strong> coming from inspection service and monitoring (which they were able to achieve in 2022); Becker remarks in the 4Q2022 earnings call that &#8220;[w]e <em>achieved our goal of growing inspection revenue 10% plus and continue to drive towards our goal of 60% plus of total net revenues coming from inspection, service and monitoring</em>&#8221;. </p><p><strong>Inspection and service revenue have a higher gross margin than contract revenue, and monitoring revenue has an even higher gross margin</strong>. Per the 4Q2022 earnings call with Becker, &#8220;<em>on average, inspection and service revenue generates approximately 10% higher gross margin than contract revenue, and monitoring revenue generates approximately 20% higher gross margin than contract revenue.</em>&#8221; (I <em>believe</em> &#8220;contract revenue&#8221; here is referring to the Specialty Services segment). The company's strategy is to <strong>win inspection contracts in order to try to cross-sell servicing and monitoring work to increase wallet-share per customer</strong>. The company's focus is on growing inspection, service, and monitoring revenue through its market-leading brands and operational efficiency. </p><h3>The Jarden vets</h3><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gGeE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd35ccea-6e90-4ffb-96ea-5c2fa069a96f_982x556.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gGeE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd35ccea-6e90-4ffb-96ea-5c2fa069a96f_982x556.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gGeE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd35ccea-6e90-4ffb-96ea-5c2fa069a96f_982x556.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gGeE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd35ccea-6e90-4ffb-96ea-5c2fa069a96f_982x556.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gGeE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd35ccea-6e90-4ffb-96ea-5c2fa069a96f_982x556.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gGeE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd35ccea-6e90-4ffb-96ea-5c2fa069a96f_982x556.png" width="982" height="556" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bd35ccea-6e90-4ffb-96ea-5c2fa069a96f_982x556.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:556,&quot;width&quot;:982,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:657005,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gGeE!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd35ccea-6e90-4ffb-96ea-5c2fa069a96f_982x556.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gGeE!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd35ccea-6e90-4ffb-96ea-5c2fa069a96f_982x556.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gGeE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd35ccea-6e90-4ffb-96ea-5c2fa069a96f_982x556.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gGeE!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd35ccea-6e90-4ffb-96ea-5c2fa069a96f_982x556.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>As mentioned, J2 was founded by Sir Martin Franklin (UK/US), Jim Lillie (US), and Ian Ashken (UK). They are most well known for the shareholder returns they produced as the founder, CEO, and co-founder/vice-chairman of Jarden, respectively. <strong>The company returned a 32% IRR for 15 years to produce a 500-bagger before being acquired by Newell Rubbermaid in 2016</strong>.</p><p>For a quick history of Jarden itself, I think this description of the company, from the &#8220;Factual Background&#8221; section of a <a href="https://www.courtalert.com/chancerypdf/601_20190719150712456VCS.pdf">memorandum opinion</a> from a court case (where it appears several shareholder funds sued Jarden for selling to Newell at too low a price), should suffice. (The document also includes and interesting discussion on valuation, if your interested).</p><blockquote><p><em>Jarden traces its origins to Alltrista Corporation, a company that was spun off in 1993 from Ball Corporation&#8217;s canning business. In 2000, Martin Franklin and Ian Ashken acquired Alltrista after having initiated a stockholder campaign to unseat Alltrista&#8217;s board and senior management. By 2001, Franklin and Ashken served as Alltrista&#8217;s Chief Executive Officer and Chief Financial Officer, respectively, and renamed the company Jarden. In August 2003, James Lillie joined the Jarden team as Chief Operating Officer. Their shared goal was to create the &#8220;best consumer products company in the world.&#8221; </em></p><p><em>Franklin served as CEO and Chairman of the Board until 2011, when Jarden reorganized its management structure. The Company created the &#8220;Office of the Chairman,&#8221; comprising Franklin as Executive Chairman, Ashken as Vice Chairman and CFO, and Lillie as CEO. As a result of this reorganization, Franklin surrendered direct control of Jarden&#8217;s day-to-day operations, but remained chiefly in charge of capital distribution and M&amp;A activity. Lillie and Ashken took over the day-to-day operation of the Company. Ashken also maintained a dominant role in Jarden&#8217;s financial planning and acquisitions. </em></p><p><em>As a holding company, Jarden maintained a unique, decentralized structure. Its various businesses functioned autonomously, allowing them to pursue outside opportunities and synergies. The respective business unit heads exercised full control over the development of their individual strategic plans. Even so, the businesses stayed in constant communication with Jarden senior management regarding operations.</em></p><p><em>[&#8230;]</em></p><p><em>The strategy included targeting: (i) category-leading positions in niche consumer markets; (ii) with recurring revenue and margin growth channels; (iii) robust cash flow characteristics, including substantial EBITDA multiples; (iv) a successful management team; and (v) strong transaction valuations, with value-generating presynergies.</em></p><p><em>[&#8230;]</em></p><p><em>Jarden pursued a two-pronged growth strategy, focusing on internal growth and growth via acquisitions.35 In this regard, management set a goal of 3 to 5% annual internal revenue growth,36 10 to 15% earnings per share (&#8220;EPS&#8221;) growth, 3 to 5% organic top-line growth, 7 to 10% EBITDA growth and 20 to 50 basis points of gross margin growth.</em></p><p><em>[&#8230;]</em></p><p><em>Given its impressive results, it is not surprising that Jarden&#8217;s stock performed well and traded efficiently. In 2012, Jarden joined the &#8220;S&amp;P 400.&#8221;43 By the end of 2015, Jarden&#8217;s market capitalization topped $10.2 billion, placing it among the top 20% of all US publicly traded firms.</em></p></blockquote><p>Jarden Corporation was a successful consumer products company that sold some of the most basic household items, such as twine, jars, playing cards, and kitchen gadgets &#8220;founded&#8221; by Sir Martin E. Franklin in 2001<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-23" href="#footnote-23" target="_self">23</a>. Franklin is a British American businessman &#8212;and triathlete&#8212; who served as Jarden's chairman and CEO from 2001 to 2011, and as its executive chairman from 2011 to 2016, when James E Lillie became Jarden's CEO<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-24" href="#footnote-24" target="_self">24</a>. <strong>Franklin's success with Jarden was due in part to the successful capital allocation employed in his roll-up strategy</strong>, which involved acquiring smaller companies to create a bigger consolidated one with a broader range of products and services<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-25" href="#footnote-25" target="_self">25</a>. Franklin's success with Jarden also resulted in significant returns to shareholders. According to an article in The New York Times, <strong>Jarden's stock price rose from $1.50 in 2001 to $50 in 2015</strong><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-26" href="#footnote-26" target="_self">26</a>. Franklin sold the business to Newell Rubbermaid in 2016 for a combination of cash and stock that amounted to a share price paid of around $59.21/sh for Jarden<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-27" href="#footnote-27" target="_self">27</a>. For each Jarden share, Newell Rubbermaid paid $21 in cash and 0.862 of a share in Newell Rubbermaid.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-28" href="#footnote-28" target="_self">28</a> </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!huWQ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501f118d-f5d6-4a74-a78c-90a430574886_1818x990.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!huWQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501f118d-f5d6-4a74-a78c-90a430574886_1818x990.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Hopefully, Franklin will be able to recreate this performance with a similar roll-up strategy at APi Group. </p><p>Also, I wonder &#8212;looking at this chart now&#8212; how much of Jarden&#8217;s pricing gains were due to the <a href="https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=16M0k">zero-bound interest rate environment</a> that followed the 2008 GFC (keep in mind that the Fed Funds rate is now around 500bps)? Even Franklin admitted that the multiple that Jarden was sold for was quite high. From that same memorandum opinion:</p><blockquote><p><em>Franklin believed the $60.00 offer represented a 13.5x EBITDA multiple, &#8220;a high multiple, by any standard, for our business . . . [and] the highest multiple, by far, our company would have ever traded or been valued.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote><p>.</p><p>The price tag of the Jarden sale represented a 24% premium to where Jarden&#8217;s stock was trading before <a href="https://archive.ph/o/oNK36/www.wsj.com/articles/newell-rubbermaid-jarden-in-merger-talks-1449521419">The Wall Street Journal reported</a> the companies were in deal talks.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-29" href="#footnote-29" target="_self">29</a> Franklin owned about 6.7 million shares of Jarden, according to S&amp;P Capital IQ, around the time of the deal, worth more than $400 million at the deal price of around $60 a share. Jim Lillie stood to receive about $87 million in cash and stock for his Jarden stake and Vice chairman and President Ian Ashken to receive around $117 million in cash and stock for his stake, based on Newell&#8217;s stock price at the time. In addition, Franklin was in line to receive $132 million in cash, stock and benefits as part of a golden parachute deal at Jarden, while Lillie and Ashken were in line to receive as much as $65 million each if their contracts aren&#8217;t renewed within two years after the deal, according to Jarden&#8217;s proxy<strong>.</strong><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-30" href="#footnote-30" target="_self">30</a></p><p>Recall from the <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1796209/000119312520096159/d827912ds4.htm">S4</a>, Mariposa Acquisition IV &#8212;through which the ex-Jarden team bought the majority of their APi stake&#8212; owned 13,333,333 total shares (including the Founder Shares) which, at trust value ($10/sh), amounted to a $133.333MM investment from Franklin, Lillie, and Ashken. Just to put these Jarden vet&#8217;s stakes in some relative terms, given Lillie and Ashken each own ~20% of Mariposa via their respective LLCs, then <strong>that would put Franklin, Lillie, and Ashken&#8217;s initial cost basis in APG at around 23% (0.70 x $133.333MM / $400MM = 0.23), 31% (0.20 x 133.333 / 87 = 0.31), and 23% (0.20 x 133.333 / 117 = 0.23) of their total base Jarden gains, respectively &#8212;not insignificant amounts even considering market compounding they may have had on those initial Jarden gains between then and <a href="https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/JTWO/results-of-ipo-of-j2-acquisition-limited-q284uu06f51lhpz.html">J2/Mariposa&#8217;s 2017 IPO</a></strong></p><p>.</p><p>Franklin has gone on to found other successful companies, including Element Solutions Inc. (ESI, up 60% since its de-SPAC) and Nomad Foods (NOMD, up 40% since its de-SPAC)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-31" href="#footnote-31" target="_self">31</a>; <s>a less successful names here might include Whole Earth Brands (down 60% since its de-SPAC) [Whole Earth Brands has the rather awkward stock ticker of FREE, making it a bit hard to quickly search for (try typing &#8220;free stock&#8221; in Google)]</s>. (<em>I could imagine simply putting 1pps of a portfolio into each of these individual stocks, including APG, and holding that collective position as a synthetic/mental &#8220;Martin Franklin ETF&#8221;</em>).</p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20230707: I was recently corrected that FREE was not a Franklin de-SPAC, but rather was a de-SPAC sponsored by, Canada-born, Irwin Simon. Franklin does own a large stake, though, and recently offered to buyout the business.</em></p><p><em><a href="https://ipo-edge.com/whole-earth-brands-ride-the-wellness-wave-alongside-legendary-dealmaker/">https://ipo-edge.com/whole-earth-brands-ride-the-wellness-wave-alongside-legendary-dealmaker/</a></em></p><p><em><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1753706/000110465920079050/tm2023499d1_ex99-1.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1753706/000110465920079050/tm2023499d1_ex99-1.htm</a></em></p><p><em><a href="https://www.just-food.com/news/investor-martin-franklin-eyes-full-takeover-of-whole-earth-brands/">https://www.just-food.com/news/investor-martin-franklin-eyes-full-takeover-of-whole-earth-brands/</a></em></p><p><em>Thanks to <a href="https://twitter.com/TheLoneWolf58">@TheLoneWolf58</a> on Twitter.</em></p><p>**********</p><p>.</p><p>If their general vision for J2 Acquisition Ltd. wasn&#8217;t apparent from the name itself, Franklin and co&#8217;s intention with the J2/APi Group de-SPAC combination was to <strong>leverage their capital allocation experience from the Jarden rollup operation to support/foster a scaling up of the pre-existing rollup strategy</strong> that characterized APi&#8217;s M&amp;A activity for many decades, creating a Jarden 2.0. </p><div id="youtube2-hFkygNdIApU" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;hFkygNdIApU&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/hFkygNdIApU?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>They appear to be doing just that as 3yrs later APi closed a deal to acquire the largest European fire safety inspection and monitoring business, Chubb.</p><div id="youtube2-dsvWY7aL2t4" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;dsvWY7aL2t4&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/dsvWY7aL2t4?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p><strong>I basically look at their role at APi as similar to that of portfolio managers of an permanent capital, long-only, activist, buy-and-hold, private equity fund of life/fire safety inspection and servicing and monitoring businesses</strong>; that fixed-and-20 fee schedule that the Franklin and the Jarden-exs set up for themselves within Mariposa Capital and Mariposa Acquisition IV LLC via the Advisory Services Agreement and Series A Preferred Stock seems to me to indicate that Franklin et al view it this way as well, to some degree. </p><p>Whether you believe the Jarden gang are the right people for that job is another question, but I like the general model of APi&#8217;s businesses and believe that the Jarden veterans and Becker are going to do a much better job of building and managing a portfolio of such businesses than I would be able to put together.</p><p>I&#8217;d guess the plan, in terms of general separation of responsibilities, is largely something like this&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!lbwp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60182ae8-0104-427c-a6e9-ad4c50b40ed3_1874x1100.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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on that front</em>).</p><p>The episodes I&#8217;ve listened to haven&#8217;t my kind of thing (they don&#8217;t go much into the day-to-day operations as much as I&#8217;d be interested in), but they&#8217;re there. At the very least, they could be looked at as evidence of the APi putting a meaningful effort into being intentional about cultivating a culture of leadership within the company (which, as noted earlier, makes sense given the decentralized way that APi operates).</p><div><hr></div><h1>Commentary</h1><p>The market for safety inspection/servicing/monitoring is <strong>generally commoditized so, despite being a statutorily mandated service for customers, there is not much in the way of pricing power for APi's Life/Fire Safety segment in particular vs peers</strong> (whether one is bidding for contracts or &#8220;<em>proposing on opportunities</em>&#8221; as management says); this idea of thick competition seems supported by the fact that there've been so many similar businesses for APi to acquire throughout the years. </p><p>Given these underlying commodity characteristics, I don&#8217;t totally get how APG&#8217;s GTM inspection-to-services-and-monitoring pipeline really &#8220;<em>differentiates [APG] from our peers and ultimately creates a stickier client relationship that we believe leads to recurring revenue, higher margins, and growth opportunities</em>&#8221; (per 2022 10K). Well, I suppose the strategy might make them different, but <strong>there is no obvious moat that stops other businesses from copying APi&#8217;s model here</strong>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-32" href="#footnote-32" target="_self">32</a></p><blockquote><p><em>There are relatively few barriers to entry in many of the industries in which we operate, and as a result, any organization that has adequate financial resources and access to technical expertise could become a competitor. In each of our segments, we compete with a number of companies, ranging from small, owner-operated businesses operating in narrow geographic regions to large companies with national and international scale who have significant financial, technical, and marketing resources. &#8212;- APi Group 2022 10K</em></p></blockquote><p>Rather, it seems <strong>volumes (of projects/contracts)</strong> is where APi must extract value (and the volumes are <strong>constrained by personnel to do the work, so there is a limit to the degree of operating leverage for the business</strong>). </p><p>.</p><p>The recurring nature and relatively low capex of the work (which gives the business it's &#8220;strong margin and cash flow profile&#8221;) once a customer is acquired makes this function, on an individual project/contract/customer level, <strong>a bit like investing go-to-market SG&amp;A dollars into profitably acquiring short/mid-term annuities</strong>. My understanding is that individual contracts are typically relatively short-lived (6-36 months), which I'd assume makes <strong>taking/losing market share in any area a bit of a constant battle. Some portion of this SG&amp;A may be more aptly considered capex rather than opex</strong>, from an accrual accounting POV, given the recurring nature of customer cash flows related to successful sales efforts.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-33" href="#footnote-33" target="_self">33</a> </p><p>.</p><p>From what I can tell, <strong>the main way that APi creates value for shareholders, then, is by management's capital allocation acumen in M&amp;A of bolt-ons</strong> of similar recurring-revenue businesses purchased at good prices and with cost-takeout/synergy opportunities (eg. the recent Chubb acquisition); a strategy similarly used <a href="https://www.courtalert.com/chancerypdf/601_20190719150712456VCS.pdf">at Jarden</a>:</p><blockquote><p><em>The strategy included targeting: (i) category-leading positions in niche consumer markets; (ii) with recurring revenue and margin growth channels; (iii) robust cash flow characteristics, including substantial EBITDA multiples; (iv) a successful management team; and (v) strong transaction valuations, with value-generating presynergies.</em></p></blockquote><p>This is in addition to, from a share <em>price</em> perspective, taking advantage of instantly bolting an acquiree, purchased at a lower valuation, on to APi's higher-valuation-multiple marketcap &#8212;the <strong>EBITDA multiples arbitrage</strong> mentioned earlier. </p><p>(I assume this dynamic is pretty similar for the Specialty Services segment as well; these services are described by APi as &#8220;mission-critical&#8221; and, to my understanding, further supported by a <strong>tailwind of aging infrastructure and shortage of specialized skilled labor required for performing the work</strong>). </p><p>.</p><p>Despite contract loss rates being low whenever they've talked about them in conference calls, <strong>switching costs appear to be basically very low or non-existent</strong>; I don&#8217;t see &#8212;and maybe I&#8217;m missing something&#8212; any structural advantage that APi has over competitors in this regard.  </p><p>I have some question in this regard: Do <em>installation</em> companies &#8212;further up the value chain than APi&#8212; not already have existing sales forces in order to get these install contracts (which are an even greater expense for customers than inspections / monitoring) that could be used for similarly sniping inspection contracts? Does install work by peers not have any kind of lock-in effects? Eg. are inspections not contracted as part of installs? Are there common proprietary switching costs, eg. were only the installer co. can properly do an inspection for certain proprietary systems they installed?&nbsp;</p><p>On APi&#8217;s GTM sales strategy for getting additional inspection business to then cross-sell servicing and monitoring work, <strong>I'd assume this high retention that APi reports combined with the low switching costs I perceive for customers goes the same for competition as well and acts as a similar pro/con</strong>. (And it's not like a GTM strategy focused on sniping inspection work to cross-sell services and monitoring work is proprietary or exclusive to APi either, though <strong>APi's scale may be an advantage to some degree</strong>).</p><p>Is it that <strong>customers are generally yours to lose in this space</strong> and APi just happen to be the ones willing/able to spend the most to be out there spotting and polling for when a customer is contemplating switching from their current vendor?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ItnX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F492ae84b-a92a-400b-8f48-de1e60572d02_400x295.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I&#8217;ve seen arguments that peers are too much larger for APG target customer projects to move the needle. Just looking at high level numbers, I do see that only about 50% of the peers used in comps analyses have similar EV and marketcap to APG (FIX, EME, DY) and all have around the same EV/EBITDA multiples, though <strong>APG outspends them all on SG&amp;A except for EME where they're about the same</strong>. Yet, &#8220;who would be APG's most noteworthy competitor&#8221; seems hard to answer as there are not great <em>direct</em> comps to what APi Group is doing. </p><p> .</p><p><strong>I just hope that management will have the discipline to pivot this roll-up to a FCF-thrower if/when scale becomes an issue down the road; I am <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/like-weeds-in-a-garden-the-zen-of#%C2%A7an-aside-on-dividends-vs-buybacks-and-selling-shares">not a fan</a> of buybacks over dividends</strong> as a preferred method of return-of-capital and I&#8217;d be more upset if Mariposa Acquisition started taking their &#8220;dividend&#8221; in cash vs stock awards in the Form 4s. In any case, <strong>Franklin&#8217;s previous willingness to sell Jarden gives me some confidence</strong> that management isn&#8217;t simply going to get caught up in empire-building here and <em>some kind</em> of conversion of business into actual cashflows for investors is <em>somewhere</em> in the future.  </p><p>.</p><p>I will also say that having performance awards for company execs directly tied to &#8220;meeting a share price target&#8221; (per APG's April 2022 proxy and 10K) seems a bit... IDK&#8230; not fundamentals-based. </p><blockquote><p><em>The Company has issued Time-Based Restricted Stock Units ("RSUs"), Performance-Based Restricted Stock Units with EBITDA-based performance conditions (&#8220;PSUs&#8221;), <strong>and Performance-Based Restricted Stock Units with share-price targets ("MSUs")</strong>, which are independent of stock option grants and all generally subject to forfeiture if employment terminates prior to vesting. &#8212;- APi Group 2022 proxy statement</em></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><em>Market Performance-Based Restricted Stock Units</em></p><p><em>The MSUs entitle the recipient to shares of the Company's common stock if specified market conditions are achieved. During the year ended December 31, 2022, the Company approved and granted 444,926 MSUs with certain share-price targets. <strong>Total MSUs granted during the year ended December 31, 2022 had a weighted-average grant date fair value of $16.31. The MSUs will vest 100%, if at all, on the later of March 9, 2025</strong>, the third anniversary of the grant date, and the date that such performance condition is satisfied (but no later than March 9, 2027). &#8212;- APi Group 2022 10K</em></p></blockquote><p>I can get slightly more comfortable with the price-target-based comp after looking at the vesting period of the MSUs in the 2022 10K, but yeah... I still think, on net, that it just counts as hair on the stock that should be considered when determining position sizing etc. <strong>So many biographies of successful business-people mention &#8216;</strong><em><strong>focusing on what you can actually control</strong></em><strong>&#8217; and this PT-based comp just seems like such a Munger-esque </strong><em><strong>anti</strong></em><strong>-pattern</strong>.</p><p>I am reminded of the old Buffett comments on not wanting to set compensation based on something outside of management's control.</p><div id="youtube2-F0P0CGh_X5c" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;F0P0CGh_X5c&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/F0P0CGh_X5c?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p>Of course, this all makes more sense when recalling that Franklin holds all of the Series A Preferred Stock which entitles him to a hedge-fund-esque performance fee/&#8220;dividend&#8221; based on the stock price&#8217;s continual rise above previous YoY price levels&#8230; <strong>Who doesn&#8217;t want a higher stock price? Though the real issue is that of non-fundamentals-based incentives</strong>.</p><p>Also, given the asset-light business model, I would think a greater / more direct compensation link to FCF be better adjEBITDA. (<strong>Whenever I see EBITDA targets as highlighted components of comp plans, I can't help recall Munger's &#8216;EBITDA = Bullshit&#8217; quote</strong>).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kn49!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79655101-f926-4261-b7bd-2dc35970f8f4_850x400.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kn49!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79655101-f926-4261-b7bd-2dc35970f8f4_850x400.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kn49!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79655101-f926-4261-b7bd-2dc35970f8f4_850x400.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kn49!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79655101-f926-4261-b7bd-2dc35970f8f4_850x400.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kn49!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79655101-f926-4261-b7bd-2dc35970f8f4_850x400.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kn49!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F79655101-f926-4261-b7bd-2dc35970f8f4_850x400.jpeg" width="552" height="259.7647058823529" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/79655101-f926-4261-b7bd-2dc35970f8f4_850x400.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:400,&quot;width&quot;:850,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:552,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Charlie Munger quote: I think that, every time you saw the word EBITDA...&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Charlie Munger quote: I think that, every time you saw the word EBITDA..." title="Charlie Munger quote: I think that, every time you saw the word EBITDA..." 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>.</p><p>I&#8217;ve seen many discussions on APG make note of the fact that they were able to remain cashflow positive even during the economic shock of the COVID-19 lockdowns in 2020, this was mostly due to the &#8220;working capital release&#8221; at that time. I would note that the WC release to FCF appears to have been due to AR draining as no/lower new revenues were coming in. Thus AR making its natural way to the FCF line. That's doesn&#8217;t seem like a good (or bad) thing, but just a final flush that could have gotten bad if the economy did not reopen. Basically, IDK that the WC release dynamic is a positive (or negative) attribute. (Unless just meant to highlight the asset-light quality of the business).&nbsp;</p><p><strong>I kind of think of these AR items like capacitors to the business machine that can smooth the flow of power/capital to the business if there are quick, </strong><em><strong>temporary</strong></em><strong> shutting off of &#8220;electricity&#8221;</strong>. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HJdm!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe51550ee-80d9-486a-b2b3-211846e075ae_306x286.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HJdm!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe51550ee-80d9-486a-b2b3-211846e075ae_306x286.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HJdm!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe51550ee-80d9-486a-b2b3-211846e075ae_306x286.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HJdm!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe51550ee-80d9-486a-b2b3-211846e075ae_306x286.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HJdm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe51550ee-80d9-486a-b2b3-211846e075ae_306x286.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HJdm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe51550ee-80d9-486a-b2b3-211846e075ae_306x286.gif" width="364" height="340.2091503267974" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e51550ee-80d9-486a-b2b3-211846e075ae_306x286.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:286,&quot;width&quot;:306,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:364,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;Capacitor as DC Voltage Source&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="Capacitor as DC Voltage Source" title="Capacitor as DC Voltage Source" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HJdm!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe51550ee-80d9-486a-b2b3-211846e075ae_306x286.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HJdm!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe51550ee-80d9-486a-b2b3-211846e075ae_306x286.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HJdm!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe51550ee-80d9-486a-b2b3-211846e075ae_306x286.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!HJdm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe51550ee-80d9-486a-b2b3-211846e075ae_306x286.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://binaryupdates.com/what-is-capacitor/">https://binaryupdates.com/what-is-capacitor/</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>A capacitor can help smooth out quick temporary power loss to a device by storing energy in an electric field. When the power is lost, the capacitor releases this energy, providing a small amount of power to the device until the power is restored.</p><p>A capacitor is an electrical component that stores energy in an electric field. It is made up of two conductors, separated by an insulator. When a voltage is applied to the capacitor, electrons move from one conductor to the other, creating an electric field. The amount of charge that can be stored in a capacitor is determined by its capacitance.</p><p>When the power is lost to a device, the capacitor can release the stored energy, providing a small amount of power to the device until the power is restored. This can help to prevent the device from fully shutting down and losing data.</p><div><hr></div><h3>Valuation commentary</h3><p>Factoring in the Chubb acquisition and subsequent cost take-outs on that business that management has planned, the most recent VIC writeup estimates a cumulative growth rate of (1.2bn/660MM-1=)82% over 3yrs (or a 27% annual EBITDA growth rate). I do wonder, though, if this future envisioned in the valuation is already priced into the stock?</p><p>Just as a way of initially trying to make explicit the assumptions baked into the exit multiple used in the writeup, I used a very simple, directionally-'good-enough' (IMO) model starting from&#8230; </p><ul><li><p>LTM FCF/sh=$0.80/sh (not assuming the FDSO number used from assuming conversion of the preferred stock), </p></li><li><p>a 10% discount rate, </p></li><li><p>taking the 80% EBITDA to FCF conversion ratio as &#8216;good enough&#8217; to just bake in EBITDA assumptions as a proxy for FCF ones, </p></li><li><p>and working backwards to see what growth and terminal rates and lengths could get me to the <em>existing</em> share price, </p></li></ul><p>&#8230; I see a growth stage of 27% for 3yrs and a terminal stage of 4% for 32yrs (ie. assuming that APG only exists for 35 more yrs, though I do get it that the longevity of the biz has proven itself very Lindy when considering APi&#8217;s near century of existing operating history) is one combination that does work to produce the $20-$22/sh price that APG had long been hovering around, YTD (at the time I was drafted this quick model), until around June &#8212;perhaps due to the rising tide of AI euphoria<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-34" href="#footnote-34" target="_self">34</a> lifting all ships.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BqVW!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4afc8d63-7987-4084-9fa2-bdc1a213bad9_680x412.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BqVW!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4afc8d63-7987-4084-9fa2-bdc1a213bad9_680x412.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BqVW!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4afc8d63-7987-4084-9fa2-bdc1a213bad9_680x412.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BqVW!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4afc8d63-7987-4084-9fa2-bdc1a213bad9_680x412.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BqVW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4afc8d63-7987-4084-9fa2-bdc1a213bad9_680x412.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BqVW!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4afc8d63-7987-4084-9fa2-bdc1a213bad9_680x412.png" width="680" height="412" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4afc8d63-7987-4084-9fa2-bdc1a213bad9_680x412.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:412,&quot;width&quot;:680,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<a href="https://gurufocus.com/stock/APG/dcf">https://gurufocus.com/stock/APG/dcf</a>)</p><p>We can use the 2025 normalized EPS estimates to see how the current price is being determined relative to those estimates. Here, I use&#8230; </p><ul><li><p>a discount rate of 11% (Rf+Re=5pps+6pps), </p></li><li><p>the 2022 normalized EPS as the starting value to apply the growth stage to, </p></li><li><p>a growth period of 4yrs (extrapolating the available estimates out by 1yr), </p></li><li><p>and a 15.5% EPS CAGR (based on the average 2022A-2025E EPS estimates (I only have TIKR which uses the avg estimates from S&amp;P CapitalIQ if there are more than set of numbers)). </p></li></ul><p>&#8230; I then just adjusted the terminal stage period to whatever got me closest to the current price. So, these are the assumptions that we can assume are baked into the APG stock price:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AERU!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ea3813-d5c1-41e7-bdd4-0277001cd298_862x529.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AERU!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ea3813-d5c1-41e7-bdd4-0277001cd298_862x529.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AERU!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ea3813-d5c1-41e7-bdd4-0277001cd298_862x529.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AERU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ea3813-d5c1-41e7-bdd4-0277001cd298_862x529.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AERU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ea3813-d5c1-41e7-bdd4-0277001cd298_862x529.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AERU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ea3813-d5c1-41e7-bdd4-0277001cd298_862x529.png" width="862" height="529" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d8ea3813-d5c1-41e7-bdd4-0277001cd298_862x529.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:529,&quot;width&quot;:862,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:110211,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AERU!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ea3813-d5c1-41e7-bdd4-0277001cd298_862x529.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AERU!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ea3813-d5c1-41e7-bdd4-0277001cd298_862x529.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AERU!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ea3813-d5c1-41e7-bdd4-0277001cd298_862x529.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AERU!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8ea3813-d5c1-41e7-bdd4-0277001cd298_862x529.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em>I wonder how this would change from an adjROIC (capitalizing some amount of SG&amp;A related to APG GTM strategy) POV re. APG&#8217;s P/E multiple and a simple DCF valuation?</em>)</p><p>Putting on a bullish hat, I&#8217;d say that even if APG is trading at FV right now based on the simple modeling (wherein Chubb turnaround meets expectations and APG remains static forever more or S&amp;P CapitalIQ estimates play), you are still getting the upside of future (and extremely probable and larger) bolt-on M&amp;A by the Jarden gang for free.</p><p>Legendary, Franco Nevada founder, Pierre Lassonde has talked in the past about the merits of paying a DCF FV for the existing business on deals that totally discounted/ignored implicit upside optionality as part of the strategy they employed when initially building the company w/ other gold royalty businesses.</p><div><hr></div><p>Ultimately, I think of APG like <strong>a diversified portfolio / PE &#8220;</strong><em><strong>fund&#8221;</strong></em><strong> of statutorily-mandated fire and life safety businesses with some very reputable insider owners &#8212;</strong>though I certainly look askance at some of their compensation&#8212; but (future M&amp;A that Becker and the Jarden gang may find in the future) I think the stock is likely trading around fair value at this time, so I see no reason to add to the existing position for now (especially given the lack of a dividend cash-back despite management&#8217;s lauding of APG&#8217;s asset-light nature).</p><p>I like APG as a&#8230; </p><ul><li><p>decentralized (making it more like a <strong>diversified portfolio of pseudo-independent businesses</strong>)&#8230; </p></li><li><p>and<strong> diversified (across geographies </strong>and client industries)&#8230; </p></li><li><p><strong>industrials-sector-beneficiary</strong> <em>portfolio</em>&#8230; </p></li><li><p>of (mostly <strong>statutorily-mandated</strong>) Life Safety businesses,... </p></li><li><p>that is relatively <strong>asset light</strong> &#8212;well, capex light (unless you include some portion of SG&amp;A as a capital expense, which may rightly be the case given their GTM strategy)&#8230; </p></li><li><p>and currently not having the optionality to the many future M&amp;A investments by Franklin and co factored into the price; </p></li><li><p>all of which is managed by <strong>well-regarded and </strong><em><strong>mostly</strong></em><strong> aligned management</strong>.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kjw-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd0e24dd2-086c-4b96-998f-e90beed26a2c_2058x1286.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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href="https://s201.q4cdn.com/155847588/files/doc_financials/2022/ar/APG-2022-Annual-Report_Final.pdf">https://s201.q4cdn.com/155847588/files/doc_financials/2022/ar/APG-2022-Annual-Report_Final.pdf</a>&nbsp;</figcaption></figure></div><p>.</p><p>I&#8217;d be a much more enthusiastic buyer if they included a dividend; that lack of distributions somewhat tempers my desire for averaging into the stock for larger pps allocations for the time being, but I&#8217;m fine letting the position ride out to whatever concentration it&#8217;s going to get to in the portfolio from the existing cost basis. </p><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! Leave a like and comment if you found this useful or spot anything I&#8217;m missing and subscribe for free to receive new posts.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>You can hear a bit about this happening at the higher levels in the interesting interview here with Harald Malmgren and Nic Glinsman:</p><div id="youtube2-KEqSi8KEV4o" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;KEqSi8KEV4o&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/KEqSi8KEV4o?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I say &#8220;asset-light&#8221; vs capex-light because APG&#8217;s rollup strategy means that there&#8217;s assuredly going to be significant capex spend going forward for the foreseeable future; that is, once they pay down the debt from their recent Chubb purchase (which was funded through a combination of cash on hand, perpetual preferred equity financing, and debt) to more comfortable levels.</p><blockquote><p><em>As many of you know, we held an investor event on November 17 to provide a thorough walk-through of Chubb as well as our <strong>continued path of deleveraging swiftly to our targeted range of 2 to 2.5x net debt to adjusted EBITDA, and our continued focus on thoughtful incremental M&amp;A</strong> &#8212;- Martin Franklin, 4Q2022 earnings call</em></p></blockquote><p> </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>For even more reading on the overview of the business, see&#8230;.</p><div class="embedded-post-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:113488378,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://vestrule.substack.com/p/api-group-apg&quot;,&quot;publication_id&quot;:1051310,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Vestrule&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;APi Group [APG]&quot;,&quot;truncated_body_text&quot;:&quot;Introduction I first heard of APi Group from my friend Market Euphoria, so let&#8217;s start by giving him a shoutout. 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You can find him on Twitter or his recently started Substack. APi Group is the largest provider of life and safety services globally. Founded in 1926, and public via SPAC in October 2019 APG inspects fire alarms, sprinklers, HVAC systems and c&#8230;</div><div class="embedded-post-cta-wrapper"><span class="embedded-post-cta">Read more</span></div><div class="embedded-post-meta">3 years ago &#183; 17 likes &#183; Ben Tewey</div></a></div><div class="embedded-post-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:112901695,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://scuttleblurb.substack.com/p/aph-amphenol-quick-apg-follow-up&quot;,&quot;publication_id&quot;:1278575,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;scuttleblurb&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;[APH] Amphenol + quick $APG follow-up&quot;,&quot;truncated_body_text&quot;:&quot;Soon after I published a bullish post on APi Group last week, a few Twitter people hinted that the company might be playing games with their organic growth (as always, thank you for the pushback). 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I looked into this a bit and noticed the following footnote in an 8-K dated Feb. 15, 2021 announcing preliminary year-end 2020 results&#8230;</div><div class="embedded-post-cta-wrapper"><span class="embedded-post-cta">Read more</span></div><div class="embedded-post-meta">3 years ago &#183; 7 likes &#183; scuttleblurb</div></a></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://tcbmag.com/honors/lee-anderson-sr/">https://tcbmag.com/honors/lee-anderson-sr/</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.encyclopedia.com/books/politics-and-business-magazines/api-group-inc#">https://www.encyclopedia.com/books/politics-and-business-magazines/api-group-inc#</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.apigroupinc.com/about-us/building-great-leaders-podcast">https://www.apigroupinc.com/about-us/building-great-leaders-podcast</a> (Season 1, episode 2)</p><p><a href="https://www.stevensonfuneralhome.com/obituaries/jeff-jessen">https://www.stevensonfuneralhome.com/obituaries/jeff-jessen</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/j2-acquisition-limited-completes-acquisition-of-api-group-300928895.html">https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/j2-acquisition-limited-completes-acquisition-of-api-group-300928895.html</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thebigredguide.com/news/j2-acquisition-limited-agreement-acquire-api-group.1610551250.html">https://www.thebigredguide.com/news/j2-acquisition-limited-agreement-acquire-api-group.1610551250.html</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1796209/000095012319012050/filename1.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1796209/000095012319012050/filename1.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://ir.apigroupcorp.com/News/press-releases/news-details/2020/APi-Group-Corporation-Announces-Commencement-of-Trading-of-its-Common-Stock-on-the-New-York-Stock-Exchange/default.aspx">https://ir.apigroupcorp.com/News/press-releases/news-details/2020/APi-Group-Corporation-Announces-Commencement-of-Trading-of-its-Common-Stock-on-the-New-York-Stock-Exchange/default.aspx</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>More info about the messed up incentives of (US) SPACs can be found here:</p><p><a href="https://www.pbwt.com/securities-enforcement-litigation-insider/delaware-court-holds-that-spac-sponsors-founder-shares-created-a-conflict-of-interest-with-public-stockholders">https://www.pbwt.com/securities-enforcement-litigation-insider/delaware-court-holds-that-spac-sponsors-founder-shares-created-a-conflict-of-interest-with-public-stockholders</a></p><p><a href="https://clsbluesky.law.columbia.edu/2021/12/13/the-spactacular-rise-of-the-special-purpose-acquisition-company-a-retail-investors-worst-nightmare/">https://clsbluesky.law.columbia.edu/2021/12/13/the-spactacular-rise-of-the-special-purpose-acquisition-company-a-retail-investors-worst-nightmare/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/news/statement/crenshaw-spac-20220330">https://www.sec.gov/news/statement/crenshaw-spac-20220330</a></p><p><a href="https://www.skadden.com/insights/publications/2022/01/court-of-chancery-issues-spac-related-decision">https://www.skadden.com/insights/publications/2022/01/court-of-chancery-issues-spac-related-decision</a></p><p><a href="https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/b1ngx7vttq33kh/Egregious-Founder-Shares-Free-Money-for-Hedge-Funds-A-Cluster-k-of-Competing-Interests-Welcome-to-the-Great-2020-SPAC-Boom">https://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/b1ngx7vttq33kh/Egregious-Founder-Shares-Free-Money-for-Hedge-Funds-A-Cluster-k-of-Competing-Interests-Welcome-to-the-Great-2020-SPAC-Boom</a></p><p><a href="https://seekingalpha.com/article/4165641-primer-on-spacs">https://seekingalpha.com/article/4165641-primer-on-spacs</a></p><p><a href="https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2018/07/06/special-purpose-acquisition-companies-an-introduction/">https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2018/07/06/special-purpose-acquisition-companies-an-introduction/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Per the 2023 Proxy: <a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/1796209/000119312523126303/d472160ddef14a.htm#toc472160_26">https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/1796209/000119312523126303/d472160ddef14a.htm#toc472160_26</a></p><blockquote><p><em>Sir Martin does not receive any additional compensation for services as a director in light of his affiliation with Mariposa Capital, LLC, which provides advisory services to the Company in exchange for a fee.</em></p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/1796209/000119312523126303/d472160ddef14a.htm">https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives/edgar/data/1796209/000119312523126303/d472160ddef14a.htm</a></p><p>1350000+75000+90000+58750+80000+90000+21250+85000+85000+(100005&#215;7)+175005+190005+158755+180005+190005+185005+185005 = 3898820</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dtu_!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13b81043-ad1a-49c5-b2eb-d1bbc0ec9d0b_846x380.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dtu_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F13b81043-ad1a-49c5-b2eb-d1bbc0ec9d0b_846x380.png 424w, 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S4:</p><blockquote><p><em>Note&nbsp;15. Related-Party Transactions and Investments</em></p><p><em>Sir Martin E. Franklin, a Founder and Director, is a beneficial owner and the manager of the Founder Entity and, as such, may be considered to have beneficial ownership of all the Founder Entity&#8217;s interests in the Company. Entities affiliated with James E. Lillie, also a Founder and Director, hold a pecuniary interest of 20% in the Founder Entity. Entities affiliated with Ian G.H. Ashken, also a Founder and Director, hold a pecuniary interest of 20% in the Founder Entity.</em></p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This (Mariposa Acquisition IV, LLC&#8217;s) amount consists of (i) 9,333,333 APG ordinary shares and (ii) 4,000,000 APG ordinary shares issuable upon conversion of Founder Preferred Shares, which are convertible at any time at the option of the holder into APG ordinary shares on a one-for-one basis. The reported securities are held by Mariposa Acquisition IV, LLC. MEF Holdings, LLLP, the general partner of which is wholly-owned by the Martin E. Franklin Revocable Trust of which Mr. Franklin is the sole settlor and trustee, holds a limited liability company interest in Mariposa Acquisition IV, LLC and, as a result, may be deemed to have a pecuniary interest in 4,176,928 APG ordinary shares and 1,728,400 APG ordinary shares issuable upon conversion of Founder Preferred Shares held by Mariposa Acquisition IV, LLC.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tiger_Cubs_(finance)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tiger_Cubs_(finance)</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.tipranks.com/experts/hedge-funds/andreas-halvorsen">https://www.tipranks.com/experts/hedge-funds/andreas-halvorsen</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://whalewisdom.com/filer/viking-global-investors-lp#tabholdings_tab_link">https://whalewisdom.com/filer/viking-global-investors-lp#tabholdings_tab_link</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.keystonefire.com/blog/when-are-fire-sprinkler-systems-required/">https://www.keystonefire.com/blog/when-are-fire-sprinkler-systems-required/</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.ny-engineers.com/blog/overview-of-nfpa-13-the-standard-for-fire-sprinkler-systems">https://www.ny-engineers.com/blog/overview-of-nfpa-13-the-standard-for-fire-sprinkler-systems</a>]</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sfpe.org/FPEETIssue61">https://www.sfpe.org/FPEETIssue61</a></p><p><a href="https://www.modernbuildingalliance.eu/EU-fire-safety-guide">https://www.modernbuildingalliance.eu/EU-fire-safety-guide</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is mentioned as the main growth drivers that APi saw in the 4Q2022 earnings call. </p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://tridenstechnology.com/telecom-industry-trends/">https://tridenstechnology.com/telecom-industry-trends/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.globenewswire.com/en/news-release/2023/06/05/2681670/28124/en/Blockchain-in-the-Global-Telecom-Market-Growth-Trends-and-Forecasts-2023-2028-Smart-Contracts-to-Dominate-the-Market.html">https://www.globenewswire.com/en/news-release/2023/06/05/2681670/28124/en/Blockchain-in-the-Global-Telecom-Market-Growth-Trends-and-Forecasts-2023-2028-Smart-Contracts-to-Dominate-the-Market.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-20" href="#footnote-anchor-20" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">20</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://smallbusiness.chron.com/advantages-decentralized-organizational-structure-603.html">https://smallbusiness.chron.com/advantages-decentralized-organizational-structure-603.html</a></p><p><a href="https://penpoin.com/decentralized-organizational-structure/">https://penpoin.com/decentralized-organizational-structure/</a></p><p><a href="https://2012books.lardbucket.org/books/accounting-for-managers/s15-01-using-decentralized-organizati.html">https://2012books.lardbucket.org/books/accounting-for-managers/s15-01-using-decentralized-organizati.html</a></p><p>This last link contained an interesting case study of one of the risks of decentralized organizations:</p><blockquote><p><em>Arthur Andersen was a large, decentralized accounting firm with offices located throughout the world. One or more partners operated each office independently. In 2002, Arthur Andersen had 85,000 employees worldwide. The firm was indicted in March 2002, and later found guilty, for obstructing justice by shredding tons of documents related to its audit work for Enron Corporation. As a result, Arthur Andersen agreed to cease its accounting practice in the United States in August 2002. By 2005, only 200 employees remained at Arthur Andersen to wrap up the dissolution of the firm.</em></p><p><em>Although the entire firm was indicted and found guilty of obstruction of justice, the decision to shred documents was made at the Houston office, where the bulk of the shredding took place. This serves as an extreme example of the disadvantage of decentralizing an organization. Decisions left to the division managers (&#8220;partners&#8221; in this case) can have a negative effect on the entire organization.</em></p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-21" href="#footnote-anchor-21" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">21</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The 2019 presentation claims 50+, but in a later 2022 presentation (<a href="https://s201.q4cdn.com/155847588/files/doc_presentation/2022/07/37d06-api-presentation-for-cjs-conference_final-july-12-2022.pdf">https://s201.q4cdn.com/155847588/files/doc_presentation/2022/07/37d06-api-presentation-for-cjs-conference_final-july-12-2022.pdf</a>) they us the number 85+ &#8220;<em>accretive acquisitions successfully completed since 2005</em>&#8221;; I used the 2019 presentation slide in the post only because it included a chart of the selected acquisitions up to that point.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-22" href="#footnote-anchor-22" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">22</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Though I&#8217;d note that, even if APi management had the heroics to go out and buy during the GFC, apparently many private owners in APi&#8217;s business were reluctant to sell. From a 2008 interview with the previous Chairman Lee Anderson:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>We&#8217;re looking at opportunities all the time, although it&#8217;s slower now. In a downturn, contrary to what you might think, companies aren&#8217;t offering themselves for sale. They probably don&#8217;t want to sell because they wouldn&#8217;t get the price they think they&#8217;re worth</em>.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-23" href="#footnote-anchor-23" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">23</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/26/business/yourmoney/the-unfamiliar-name-found-around-the-house.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/26/business/yourmoney/the-unfamiliar-name-found-around-the-house.html</a></p><p><a href="https://archive.ph/OHoJ0">https://archive.ph/OHoJ0</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-24" href="#footnote-anchor-24" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">24</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_E._Franklin">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_E._Franklin</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-25" href="#footnote-anchor-25" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">25</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.boyarvaluegroup.com/blank/the-world-according-to-boyar-episode-15-sir-martin-e-franklin/">https://www.boyarvaluegroup.com/blank/the-world-according-to-boyar-episode-15-sir-martin-e-franklin/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-26" href="#footnote-anchor-26" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">26</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/26/business/yourmoney/the-unfamiliar-name-found-around-the-house.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/26/business/yourmoney/the-unfamiliar-name-found-around-the-house.html</a></p><p><a href="https://archive.ph/OHoJ0">https://archive.ph/OHoJ0</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-27" href="#footnote-anchor-27" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">27</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_E._Franklin">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_E._Franklin</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-28" href="#footnote-anchor-28" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">28</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>You can read a bit on the aftermath of the sale to Newell here: <a href="https://www.thecorpraider.com/2018/03/19/newell-brands-and-uncle-carl/">https://www.thecorpraider.com/2018/03/19/newell-brands-and-uncle-carl/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-29" href="#footnote-anchor-29" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">29</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="http://www.wsj.com/articles/newell-rubbermaid-and-jarden-strike-merger-deal-1450094318">http://www.wsj.com/articles/newell-rubbermaid-and-jarden-strike-merger-deal-1450094318</a></p><p><a href="https://archive.ph/oNK36">https://archive.ph/oNK36</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-30" href="#footnote-anchor-30" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">30</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/15/business/dealbook/newell-rubbermaid-to-buy-jarden-for-13-2-billion.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/15/business/dealbook/newell-rubbermaid-to-buy-jarden-for-13-2-billion.html</a></p><p><a href="https://archive.ph/57IGG">https://archive.ph/57IGG</a></p><p><a href="http://www.wsj.com/articles/newell-rubbermaid-and-jarden-strike-merger-deal-1450094318">http://www.wsj.com/articles/newell-rubbermaid-and-jarden-strike-merger-deal-1450094318</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-31" href="#footnote-anchor-31" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">31</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.boyarvaluegroup.com/blank/the-world-according-to-boyar-episode-15-sir-martin-e-franklin/">https://www.boyarvaluegroup.com/blank/the-world-according-to-boyar-episode-15-sir-martin-e-franklin/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.securityinformed.com/people/sir-martin-e-franklin.html">https://www.securityinformed.com/people/sir-martin-e-franklin.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-32" href="#footnote-anchor-32" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">32</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I will note that, in a discussion I had with @<a href="https://twitter.com/marketeuphoria">marketeuphoria</a> on twitter, the idea was brought up to the effect that the small size of the individual projects pursued by APi in addition to APi&#8217;s scale make their niche too small for larger players to care about &#8212;as taking share in this space does not move the needle for larger comps; per Russ Becker at the 2Q2022 earnings call: the &#8220;<em>average project size is approximately $5,000 in our largest segment, Safety Services, and $75,000 in Specialty Services&#8221;</em>. At the same time APi&#8217;s own size makes them the big fish in a small pond relative to other businesses chasing the same work as themselves. I&#8217;m not really sure how I feel about this argument for now, but I thought I&#8217;d mention it.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-33" href="#footnote-anchor-33" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">33</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>More on this topic of capitalizing certain typical opex items for certain business models, as discussed by Michael Mauboussin, can be found here: <a href="https://acquirersmultiple.com/2022/04/michael-mauboussin-financial-statements-one-size-does-not-fit-all/">https://acquirersmultiple.com/2022/04/michael-mauboussin-financial-statements-one-size-does-not-fit-all/</a></p><p>&lt;TODO: Note to self, look into APG&#8217;s margin profiles when capitalizing portions of their GTM SG&amp;A. Does this improve margins and ROIC?&gt;</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-34" href="#footnote-anchor-34" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">34</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/06/04/ai-bubble-tech-industry-outlook/">https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/06/04/ai-bubble-tech-industry-outlook/</a></p><p><a href="https://archive.fo/TfSi1">https://archive.fo/TfSi1</a></p><p></p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Like Weeds In A Garden: The Zen Of Managing A Portfolio Without Managing A Portfolio]]></title><description><![CDATA[An emergent "strategy" of doing nothing --and why buybacks are not equivalent to dividends]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/like-weeds-in-a-garden-the-zen-of</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/like-weeds-in-a-garden-the-zen-of</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2023 20:17:06 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F91ff498c-9733-40a8-8076-8b0c389f77f3_777x437.gif" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>For several years I lived on a steep hillside in a decrepit summer cottage that had what a real estate agent called &#8220;charm.&#8221; Which meant it was a shack with a view. In keeping with the spirit of the house, I let the yard go &#8220;natural,&#8221; letting what wanted to be there be there and take care of itself without any help from me. I remember announcing from the front porch to all living things in the yard: &#8220;You're all on your own. Good luck.&#8221; &#8212;- </em>Robert Fulghum<em>, &#8220;All I really need to know I learned in kindergarten&#8221; 1986</em></p></blockquote><div><hr></div><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/112948690/intro">Intro</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/112948690/when-you-realize-nothing-is-lacking-the-whole-world-belongs-to-you">&#8220;When you realize nothing is lacking, the whole world belongs to you&#8221;</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/112948690/any-way-the-wind-blows-doesnt-really-matter-to-me">Any way the wind blows</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/112948690/on-technical-analysis">On technical analysis</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/112948690/mintzberg-and-emergent-strategy">Mintzberg and emergent strategy</a></p><ul><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/112948690/self-organizing-criticality">Self-organizing criticality</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/112948690/an-aside-on-portfolio-stock-count-and-diversification">An aside on portfolio stock count and &#8220;diversification&#8221;</a></p></li></ul></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/112948690/shake-it-off-pareto-style-and-by-it-i-mean-the-other-middling-of-a-portfolio">&#8220;Shake It Off&#8221;, Pareto style &#8212;and by &#8220;it&#8221; I mean the other middling 80% of a portfolio</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/112948690/in-defense-of-degeneracy-junk-food-and-strategic-drift-or-simulated-annealing-as-i-call-it">In defense of degeneracy, junk food, and strategic drift&#8230; (or simulated annealing, as I call it)</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/112948690/an-experiment">An experiment</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/112948690/an-aside-on-dividends-vs-buybacks-and-selling-shares">An aside on dividends vs buybacks and selling shares</a></p></li></ul><p><em>*For the purposes of certain references I might make to &#8220;FCF&#8221;, note that I usually mean cashflows from operation (CFFO) less maintenance capex (as opposed to lumping all capex together regardless of whether it is used for growth or for maintaining the existing business); maybe call is DFCF for &#8220;discretionary FCF&#8221;. I&#8217;ll admit it&#8217;s not always obvious when looking at an annual report or a screen of compiled financial data whether a certain amount of spending that is lumped into capex line items is mCapex vs gCapex, but sometimes it is and sometimes it can be reasonably determined by reading a bit more about the business + looking at the footnotes. This related article from the great compiler Michael Mauboussin is interesting: <a href="https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_underestimatingtheredqueen.pdf">https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_underestimatingtheredqueen.pdf</a>.</em> </p><h1>Intro</h1><p>Warren Buffett wrote something interesting in Berkshire&#8217;s <a href="https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/2022ltr.pdf">2022 annual letter</a> to investors; it included a section called &#8220;The Secret Sauce&#8221;. In this short section, Buffett reflects on the long-term success of Berkshire Hathaway's investments in Coca-Cola and American Express. Over the years, the cash dividends received from these holdings have shown consistent growth, from $75MM in 1994 to a 10x of $704MM in 2022 for Coca-Cola, and from $41MM to a 7x of $302MM for Amex. While these dividend gains alone may not be remarkable, their impact on the stock prices of the respective companies has been substantial<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>. BRK&#8217;s investments in Coca-Cola and Amex have grown to a value of $25bn and $22bn, respectively, accounting for approximately 5% of the company's net worth. </p><p>Buffett contrasts this with a hypothetical scenario of an investment with a cost basis allocation similar to that of his Amex bet that &#8212;unlike Amex&#8212; had remained stagnant and highlights how this underperforming investment as a portion of BRK&#8217;s portfolio would now be de minimis and contribute minimally to BRK&#8217;s overall income. &#8220;<em>The lesson for investors: The weeds wither away in significance as the flowers bloom. Over time, it takes just a few winners to work wonders. 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stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://scitechdaily.com/development-of-next-generation-crops-research-catches-up-to-worlds-fastest-growing-plant/">https://scitechdaily.com/development-of-next-generation-crops-research-catches-up-to-worlds-fastest-growing-plant/</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>This got me thinking again about the &#8220;coffee can&#8221; portfolio strategy &#8212;or the Kahnweiler method, as Murray Stahl might call it&#8212; which involves buying and holding a portfolio of high-quality stocks for the long-term, usually five years or more, and typically consists of 10-20 stocks from different sectors and industries that are high-quality companies with a an ability to generate consistent growth and profitability<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> &#8212;so there&#8217;s technically no moon-shoots, net-nets, or last-puff-of-the-cigar, stock flipping allowed with this. </p><p>I&#8217;ve written a bit about this idea in the context of Horizon Kinetics founder Murray Stahl and my various observations about his investment style <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/45570065/like-weeds-in-a-garden-yes-and-the-power-series-of-coffee-cans-and-art-dealers">here</a>. With this strategy (and his interesting way of thinking through investments), Stahl&#8217;s Paradigm Fund has outperformed the market over the past 10 years &#8212;largely due to a concentrated position in Texas Pacific Land Corporation (TPL), which was initially bought for their dividends, share buybacks, and land value optionality and has now been accumulated over nearly 20 years to become an outsized concentration for the fund as the discovery of shale oil and fracking have rocketed the stock well past 100-bagger status. (There&#8217;s currently <a href="https://tpltblog.com/">a lot that could be said</a> about TPL as I write this, but that is not the focus on this post).  </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zsGi!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9f740e0a-1ebe-42ea-b842-12a6a4e824e8_485x282.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!zsGi!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9f740e0a-1ebe-42ea-b842-12a6a4e824e8_485x282.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.spglobal.com/spdji/en/research-insights/spiva/">https://www.spglobal.com/spdji/en/research-insights/spiva/</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>In any case, this post is not about Stahl in particular &#8212;though I will reference him again later&#8212; but rather some general thoughts and connections on this style of emergent portfolio concentration. I ultimately plan on constructing an experimental portfolio based on this overarching idea and am mostly using this post as a way to log some of my initial thoughts on the topic. </p><h2>&#8220;When you realize nothing is lacking, the whole world belongs to you&#8221;</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6y9r!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7e057e3-98a6-4bcf-a069-eb4e71ce1d83_496x615.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6y9r!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7e057e3-98a6-4bcf-a069-eb4e71ce1d83_496x615.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6y9r!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7e057e3-98a6-4bcf-a069-eb4e71ce1d83_496x615.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6y9r!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7e057e3-98a6-4bcf-a069-eb4e71ce1d83_496x615.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6y9r!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7e057e3-98a6-4bcf-a069-eb4e71ce1d83_496x615.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6y9r!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7e057e3-98a6-4bcf-a069-eb4e71ce1d83_496x615.png" width="496" height="615" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a7e057e3-98a6-4bcf-a069-eb4e71ce1d83_496x615.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:615,&quot;width&quot;:496,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:648176,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6y9r!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7e057e3-98a6-4bcf-a069-eb4e71ce1d83_496x615.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6y9r!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7e057e3-98a6-4bcf-a069-eb4e71ce1d83_496x615.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6y9r!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7e057e3-98a6-4bcf-a069-eb4e71ce1d83_496x615.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6y9r!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa7e057e3-98a6-4bcf-a069-eb4e71ce1d83_496x615.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Me and my portfolio chilling</figcaption></figure></div><p>One of the central ideas in Zen Buddhism is the concept of &#8220;non-doing&#8221; or &#8220;doing without doing.&#8221; This idea suggests that by letting go of our preconceptions and specific desires, we can attain a state of effortless action that arises naturally from our present-moment awareness. The themes of non-doing and letting go of our desire to control events can be applied beyond the realm of spiritual practice and into areas such as economic forecasting. Zen teaches us that trying to predict the future or control macroeconomic events is a futile effort; from Seth Klarman&#8217;s &#8220;<em>Margin of Safety</em>&#8221;&#8230;</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>By way of example, a top-down investor must be correct on the big picture (e.g., are we entering an unprecedented era of world peace and stability?), correct in drawing conclusions from that (e.g., is German reunification bullish or bearish for German interest rates and the value of the deutsche mark), correct in applying those conclusions to attractive areas of investment (e.g., buy German bonds, buy the stocks of U.S. companies with multinational presence), correct in the specific securities purchased (e.g., buy the ten-year German government bond, buy Coca-Cola), and, finally, be early in buying these securities. The top-down investor thus faces the daunting task of predicting the unpredictable more accurately and faster than thousands of other bright people, all of them trying to do the same thing.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote><p>&#8230;Instead, we should strive to allow events to unfold naturally without resistance or fear, embracing uncertainty and volatility as a necessary part of life and as an essential aspect of investing (which, in the absence of aggregate uncertainty, would have no upside to capture). </p><p>Sometimes, the best way to achieve a goal is by not trying to control or manipulate events, but by allowing things to happen naturally, without resistance. This is a view that is evidently challenging for people &#8212;myself included&#8212; to actually put into practice in a world that values control and predictability, with the average portfolio turnover of actively managed US funds sitting at 63% in 2019<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> (i.e. by the end of the year, a typical fund would have replaced more than half of the businesses it started the year with). The average equity holding period for an individual stock in the U.S. is now just 10 months, down from 5 years back in the 1970s.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Arjp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb279dba5-3e09-4da5-96dd-2e0ae86ea753_602x345.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Arjp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb279dba5-3e09-4da5-96dd-2e0ae86ea753_602x345.jpeg 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2023/02/buy-hold-is-dead-long-live-buy-hold/">https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2023/02/buy-hold-is-dead-long-live-buy-hold/</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>I find this story from Morgan Housel interesting&#8230; (<a href="https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/07/22/keep-investing-as-simple-as-possible.aspx">https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/07/22/keep-investing-as-simple-as-possible.aspx</a>): </p><blockquote><p><em>There are no points awarded for difficulty in investing. The investor with the most complicated model or the most elaborate theory doesn't always win. Indeed, elaborate theories can often be the fastest route to self-delusion. The Motley Fool's Seth Jayson put it nicely: "It begins to sound fatalistic, but I have come full circle on this to the idea that simple rules work far better than deeper thinking, because most of that deeper thinking is just an exercise in bias confirmation."</em></p><p><em>In 1981, Pensions &amp; Investment Age magazine published a list of money managers with the best track records over the previous decade. One year, a fellow named Edgerton Welch of Citizens Bank and Trust Company topped the list. Few had ever heard of Welch. So Forbes paid him a visit and asked him his secret. Welch pulled out a copy of a Value Line newsletter and told the reporter he bought all the stocks ranked "1" (the cheapest) that Merrill Lynch or E.F. Hutton also recommended.</em></p></blockquote><p>&#8230; and it reminds me of a commentary by Horizon Kinetics&#8217; Murray Stahl titled &#8220;<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160512150849/http://www.horizonkinetics.com:80/docs/Can%20a%20Bad%20PM.pdf">Can a Bad Portfolio Manager beat the S&amp;P 500?</a>&#8221;. His conclusion is that &#8220;<em>[t]he answer to this question is decidedly affirmative.</em>&#8221; The reason is essentially that, while the hypothetical &#8220;bad PM&#8221; in the story simply gives up on trading from the outset and does nothing each year beyond continuing to make buy decisions, over time, the small number of winning stocks in an initially diversified portfolio (assuming an initial construction with a normalized distribution of losers, so-so&#8217;ers, and outperformer stocks) will come to dominate the percentage of the total holdings, while the worst that the middling or losing stocks can do is die and go to zero, never to drag on performance again. </p><p>With such a view of an investment portfolio, the question then is not about trading, doubling down, or trimming positions, but narrowed to the more essential questions of how to pick more winners and less losers (emphasis on the latter) and where questions of diversification might only come into play when considering the economics of a prospective new position (vs &#8216;has this position succeeded too much and gotten too big?&#8217;). At the very least, you end up with a organically de-worsified portfolio over time.</p><blockquote><p><em>All of the rules that he laid out, he broke all the rules, and he owes all of his success to one investment. And if you remove this one investment from that investor&#8217;s career performance, if you just take this one stock out, the career performance drops to average. The one stock that he&#8217;s talking about is GEICO and the investor is himself, Ben Graham. If you look at Ben Graham&#8217;s lifetime performance, if you remove one investment that he made in GEICO, his performance is average. And by the way, buying GEICO broke every single rule that Ben Graham put in his own book. &#8212;- </em><a href="https://acquirersmultiple.com/2022/11/morgan-housel-most-of-your-investing-success-will-come-from-a-small-fraction-of-your-investments/">Morgan Housel</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wkLt!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9a10a9fb-b2c6-4b8e-ad59-07498059e7e8_547x500.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I also add to this the process of continually re-evaluating if the business model and business/regulatory environment that made your winner winners still holds and subsequently having the courage to sell when a thesis is broken and no newer one can be determined or simply becomes irrelevant &#8212;and the same for determining of existing losers are losers because your original thesis was wrong or is simply not relevant. In both cases, I like to think of it as the humility and courage to (rationally) chicken out<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a>. Mentally giving yourself this leeway also can help reduce the underconfidence risk of analysis paralysis (on buying decisions) and reduce the overconfidence risk of holding/riding falling knives (re. sell decisions); you don&#8217;t have to make it back the way you lost it. </p><h2>Any way the wind blows, doesn&#8217;t really matter to me</h2><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>If you try to represent the stock/bond relationship with one correlation statistic, it denies the causality of the correlation. <strong>Correlation is just the word people use to take an average of how two prices have behaved together. When I am setting up my trading bets, I am not looking at correlation; I am looking at whether the drivers are different</strong>. I am choosing 15 or more assets that behave differently for logical reasons. I may talk about the return streams in the portfolio being uncorrelated, but be aware that I&#8217;m not using the term correlation the way most people do. I am</em> <em>talking about the causation, not the measure.&#8221; [&#8230;] Drivers are the cause; correlations are the consequence. <strong>In order to ensure a diversified portfolio, it is necessary to select assets that have [or will have in the future] different drivers</strong>. </em>~~~ Ray Dalio in Jack Schwager&#8217;s &#8220;Hedge Fund Market Wizards&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>In sailing, there is a concept of &#8220;<em>points of sail</em>&#8221; which refers to the different angles at which a sailboat can travel relative to the direction of the wind. A boat&#8217;s position and trim (orientation) of the sails relative to the direction of the wind can significantly influence the speed and efficiency at which a sailboat can travel in any direction.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!81cF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ca621a6-c9d6-429f-98c9-23123ad994d9_1050x744.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!81cF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ca621a6-c9d6-429f-98c9-23123ad994d9_1050x744.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!81cF!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ca621a6-c9d6-429f-98c9-23123ad994d9_1050x744.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!81cF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ca621a6-c9d6-429f-98c9-23123ad994d9_1050x744.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!81cF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ca621a6-c9d6-429f-98c9-23123ad994d9_1050x744.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!81cF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ca621a6-c9d6-429f-98c9-23123ad994d9_1050x744.jpeg" width="666" height="471.9085714285714" 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One manner in which I like to diversify my portfolio is by attempting to position various &#8216;ships&#8217; / categories <em>of baskets</em> of positions simultaneously across all &#8220;points of sail&#8221; such that the total portfolio can benefit in some material way regardless of particular direction the &#8216;winds&#8217; are blowing. If we imagine this circle of ships as investment positions and the total return of those positions as represented by the distance from the center of the intersection of the various points-of-sail anlges, our goal then is to <em>opportunistically</em> add, maintain, or retire &#8220;ships&#8221; that, as the winds blow over time, will ultimately encompass the greatest possible area without ever &#8220;backtracking&#8221;. The goal is to have positions that can produce great amounts of cashflows when the winds are in their favor, while also being able to make a <em>decent</em> return when they are not (or at the very least, not lose ground/money in these unfavorable times).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uFOh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F155d6a94-77df-4082-ab7c-99c7860bcbb3_1123x852.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uFOh!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F155d6a94-77df-4082-ab7c-99c7860bcbb3_1123x852.png 424w, 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Two steps backwards in the unfavorable times is acceptable if they&#8217;re taking five steps forward in the favorable times &#8212;generally sized according to both the likelihood of their fundamentals holding up until such a time and the probability of that time coming sooner rather than later, of course.</p><h2>On technical analysis</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GhF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d0922ed-83cb-4311-9647-1fcca0363040_1062x1040.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GhF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d0922ed-83cb-4311-9647-1fcca0363040_1062x1040.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GhF!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d0922ed-83cb-4311-9647-1fcca0363040_1062x1040.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GhF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d0922ed-83cb-4311-9647-1fcca0363040_1062x1040.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GhF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d0922ed-83cb-4311-9647-1fcca0363040_1062x1040.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GhF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d0922ed-83cb-4311-9647-1fcca0363040_1062x1040.jpeg" width="620" height="607.1563088512241" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7d0922ed-83cb-4311-9647-1fcca0363040_1062x1040.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1040,&quot;width&quot;:1062,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:620,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;What popular/unpopular opinion will have you like this? : r/tianguancifu&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="What popular/unpopular opinion will have you like this? : r/tianguancifu" title="What popular/unpopular opinion will have you like this? : r/tianguancifu" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GhF!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d0922ed-83cb-4311-9647-1fcca0363040_1062x1040.jpeg 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GhF!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d0922ed-83cb-4311-9647-1fcca0363040_1062x1040.jpeg 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GhF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d0922ed-83cb-4311-9647-1fcca0363040_1062x1040.jpeg 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1GhF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d0922ed-83cb-4311-9647-1fcca0363040_1062x1040.jpeg 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>I will need to remember to fill in this section with more about this topic in the future, but for now I direct readers to this interesting article on Ted Warren&#8217;s &#8220;How To Make The Stock Market Make Money For You&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> (<a href="https://macro-ops.com/how-to-make-the-stock-market-make-money-for-you-book-notes/">https://macro-ops.com/how-to-make-the-stock-market-make-money-for-you-book-notes/</a>) and the comprehensive post here&#8230;</p><div class="embedded-post-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:176238633,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.lordfed.co.uk/p/from-zero-to-stock-hero-1b6&quot;,&quot;publication_id&quot;:630791,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lord Fed's Gazette&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Mf_h!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff5d03f21-e983-4365-a4a6-897c1db1a044_339x339.png&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;From Zero to Stock Hero&quot;,&quot;truncated_body_text&quot;:&quot;For everyone who joined recently, here&#8217;s the full three-part Zero to Stock Hero series in one place. 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(NO PAYWALL&#8230;</div><div class="embedded-post-cta-wrapper"><span class="embedded-post-cta">Read more</span></div><div class="embedded-post-meta">7 months ago &#183; 82 likes &#183; 4 comments &#183; Lord Fed</div></a></div><p>&#8230; and say that, while it gets a good deal of flak, I do think that technical analysis and price action in itself (when accompanied/contextualized (mostly) by simple volume (eg. PVT and OBV confirmation or divergences), momentum, and directional efficiency metrics) can provide meaningful information that has a place being integrated into a fundamental-based POV of the underlying business of a stock.</p><p><strong>I think of it in each case as continued observations of a well-defined pattern border over time (eg. simple rectangle, rising triangle, or multi-touch head &amp; shoulders) building an ever-stronger case for the Bayesian likelihood factor of the probability of alternative explanatory hypothesis (H1, proposing that the price action is indeed being constrained by the apparent pattern borders) vs the probability of price action following simple random walk explanation (H0)&#8230; </strong></p><p><strong>P(</strong><em><strong>accumulating joint pattern-confirming (or -disconfirming) observations</strong></em><strong> | </strong><em><strong>pattern X is indeed encoding genuine market preference/evaluations about high- and low-end values, H1</strong></em><strong>)</strong></p><p><strong>vs P(</strong><em><strong>accumulating joint pattern-confirming (or -disconfirming) observations</strong></em><strong> | </strong><em><strong>random walk, H0</strong></em><strong>) </strong></p><p><strong>&#8230; depending on the volumes observed at those pattern boundaries. </strong><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TQP4!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9178b9ec-db8f-4291-b7d8-8968622dc223_331x115.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TQP4!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9178b9ec-db8f-4291-b7d8-8968622dc223_331x115.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TQP4!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9178b9ec-db8f-4291-b7d8-8968622dc223_331x115.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TQP4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9178b9ec-db8f-4291-b7d8-8968622dc223_331x115.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TQP4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9178b9ec-db8f-4291-b7d8-8968622dc223_331x115.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TQP4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9178b9ec-db8f-4291-b7d8-8968622dc223_331x115.png" width="331" height="115" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9178b9ec-db8f-4291-b7d8-8968622dc223_331x115.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:115,&quot;width&quot;:331,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TQP4!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9178b9ec-db8f-4291-b7d8-8968622dc223_331x115.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TQP4!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9178b9ec-db8f-4291-b7d8-8968622dc223_331x115.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TQP4!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9178b9ec-db8f-4291-b7d8-8968622dc223_331x115.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TQP4!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9178b9ec-db8f-4291-b7d8-8968622dc223_331x115.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>PosteriorOdds[t=now] </em></p><p><em>= odds of H1 being true vs H0 <strong>given</strong> the joint set of observations E that have actually happened</em></p><p><em>= (initial odds of H1 vs H0) <strong>weighted by</strong> (odds of seeing the pattern of evidence in E if H1 were true vs seeing it if H0 were true)</em></p><p><em>= PriorOdds[t=0] x P(e1 and e2&#8230; and en | H[alt]) / P(e1 and e2&#8230; and en | H[0]),</em></p><p><em>as more confirming (or disconfirming) evidence/observations, ei, continue to come in over time. (Note the joint nature of the observations due to the fact that these are all happening in the same context as each other rather than being independent and isolated incidences; same stock, same boundary).</em></p><p><em>(Notice this is not about a binary choice saying &#8220;H1 is the truth, period&#8221;, it&#8217;s just the relative likelihood that we can rely on H[alt] as the better explanatory model vs a random walk).</em></p><p><strong>Breakouts (or break</strong><em><strong>downs</strong></em><strong>) from these patterns &#8212;again, with confirming volume&#8212; (if sustained) then provide evidence/observations towards the possibility that net market forces have now shifted/broken into a new asymmetric or undefined paradigm, H2, above (or below) the previous ceiling (or floor) that was evidenced by H1 that we can now try to profit from &#8212;which is the view of reality that makes H2 meaningful (ie. P(H2) &#8733; P(H1)). </strong><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a></p><p>Again, we are <em>not</em> looking at, say, a rectangle pattern that&#8217;s now risen back to its apparent ceiling and <em>predicting or projecting</em> that it is now &#8220;<em>due&#8221;</em> to break out beyond that boundary for some reason. We are looking at the apparent reliability of that rectangle boundary itself (H1) based on the evidence of how well it has defined the ceiling and floor in the contiguous past for the stock price, then making a bet on that long-held paradigm inflecting to the upside into a new paradigm (H2) as we observe price action unusually loitering or breaking out above that ceiling &#8212;and cutting losses when H2 fails to materialize by keeping trailing ATR-based stops.</p><p>Furthermore, IMO, it does not matter if the buyers/sellers creating the price patterns are &#8220;informed&#8221; or not because, regardless, they are the ones dictating the reality of the price action, self evidently. I don&#8217;t even attribute intelligence or stupidity to the participants and the Bayesian likelihood factor of the pattern boundary&#8217;s existence/likelihood does not rely on &#8220;intelligent&#8221; self-organization or emergent truth-finding by the market of &#8220;fair value&#8221; in some Kantian noumenal sense <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a>; it exists regardless of any noumenal truth of the stock&#8217;s &#8220;fair value&#8221; and, most importantly, any breakout-capture strategy does not care about if the bounds of H1 were intelligent, only that H2 is strong/likely in order to rely on it to determine if we are going to enter the trade and any size at all (in practice it would more so be proportional to the strength of H1 and the sustainment of the breakout). <em>(I will note that this does require having some understanding of the dynamics of any major or majority holders/buyer/sellers of a particular stock if such players exist there)</em>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uenn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d4e8a7b-af25-42ae-9f05-a752233eb8a6_1095x612.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uenn!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d4e8a7b-af25-42ae-9f05-a752233eb8a6_1095x612.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Uenn!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2d4e8a7b-af25-42ae-9f05-a752233eb8a6_1095x612.png 848w, 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One boundary-respecting-incident is a coincidence, 7+ is a pattern, IMHO.</figcaption></figure></div><p>As a simple horizontal line holds as an effective support/ceiling over long stretches of the series of price bars (especially when the distances between touches denotes long stretches of time relative to the actual human business cycle, eg. multiple weeks or months), we can even be more confident in the Posterior Odds favoring <em>H1</em> as the distances between touches lend evidence that the supposed support is something encoded in the price action as an actual &#8220;memory&#8221; in the aggregate/collective human function that drives the price action &#8212;for whatever the reason may be, we aren&#8217;t necessarily trying to discern that here&#8212; rather than any initial line-establishing touches simply being localized meanderings of an otherwise totally-random walk that then stumbles away to diverge far from some supposed support in the series of successive price bars, never to return.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H9Hr!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa57c9ffb-b532-455e-ab30-f519216630d5_1086x870.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H9Hr!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa57c9ffb-b532-455e-ab30-f519216630d5_1086x870.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H9Hr!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa57c9ffb-b532-455e-ab30-f519216630d5_1086x870.png 848w, 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Again, it&#8217;s not about predicting then cherry-picking those charts that match (at, say, t=Dec25 here), but about building confidence, in real time, in the likelihood of observed boundaries being reliable and durable based simply on a Bayesian POV of how they&#8217;ve held over time, then acting (incrementally) on the likelihood of that observed paradigm being sustainably broken through if/when it indeed happens.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Simplicity is the secret sauce here, IMO; KISS is key. The simplicity of a supposed pattern in H[alt] is what helps the posterior odds shift more significantly in H1&#8217;s favor vs a random walk as E gains successive pattern-affirming joint observations. Think of it like this: the more complicated the geometry of a supposed pattern proposed by your H[alt], the more (equally) likely that it&#8217;s really just some random walk going all over the place over time, the harder it is for the relative Posterior Odds equation to rise in favor of H[alt], since denominator P(E | H0) is so much larger.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TjkO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F829b7f2f-1ccc-4c05-a0be-92bdf9a66532_1086x870.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TjkO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F829b7f2f-1ccc-4c05-a0be-92bdf9a66532_1086x870.png 424w, 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(Simple multi-touch head-and-shoulders are worth looking at as well, IMO).</figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Msmp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd20a8e45-2a53-42b0-946f-f66b76a5181c_1086x870.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Msmp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd20a8e45-2a53-42b0-946f-f66b76a5181c_1086x870.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Msmp!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd20a8e45-2a53-42b0-946f-f66b76a5181c_1086x870.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Msmp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd20a8e45-2a53-42b0-946f-f66b76a5181c_1086x870.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Msmp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd20a8e45-2a53-42b0-946f-f66b76a5181c_1086x870.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Msmp!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd20a8e45-2a53-42b0-946f-f66b76a5181c_1086x870.png" width="900" height="720.9944751381215" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d20a8e45-2a53-42b0-946f-f66b76a5181c_1086x870.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:870,&quot;width&quot;:1086,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:900,&quot;bytes&quot;:203256,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/112948690?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd20a8e45-2a53-42b0-946f-f66b76a5181c_1086x870.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:&quot;center&quot;,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Msmp!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd20a8e45-2a53-42b0-946f-f66b76a5181c_1086x870.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Msmp!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd20a8e45-2a53-42b0-946f-f66b76a5181c_1086x870.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Msmp!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd20a8e45-2a53-42b0-946f-f66b76a5181c_1086x870.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Msmp!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd20a8e45-2a53-42b0-946f-f66b76a5181c_1086x870.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Here is a multi-year chart of Honeywell&#8217;s monthly price bars; I&#8217;ve also numbered different apparent &#8220;paradigms&#8221; through HON&#8217;s price history. We see that there is (was) a persistent ceiling to the market&#8217;s consensus value of HON until early October 2025 when HON spun off it&#8217;s Advance Materials segment w/ additional plans to spin off the Aerospace segment, all catalyzed by a letter from activist Elliot Mgmt. to the HON BoD in <a href="https://divergentcapital7651.substack.com/i/188346430/4-honeywell-hon-a-classic-spinoff-opportunity">November 2024</a>. I&#8217;m not saying that the chart could have predicted the value breakout, but that the chart showed 1] evidence that the market-enforced boundaries defined an existing paradigm (ceiling) over a long stretch of time and 2] the later spin-off(s) and boundary breakout then showed the market&#8217;s confidence in breakout of/above that old paradigm &#8212;which in this case aligned with clear expectations of a fundamental change in HON&#8217;s business(es).</figcaption></figure></div><p>The thing is that I might have a price target determined for a particular company I&#8217;m looking at, but one still has to consider the time component of a stock reaching any particular PT in order to get a sense of the upside in terms of CAGR or IRR. If Bitcoin is going to go up 100%, but it ends up taking 20 years, that&#8217;s a 5% IRR, in which case it would arguably be a better reward-to-risk to hold some dividend stocks or USTs. Other than in the case of special situations with a very concrete catalyst (eg. buyout offer, liquidation, merger, etc), such PT-realization timelines are not very predictable &#8212;as it requires the market to cooperate with you, good luck with that&#8212; and are, to varying degrees, constantly moving targets. So I like to focus on researching the business and it&#8217;s moat elements (which I think is the most interesting part anyway), maybe come up with some rough PT, and wait for trend or breakout signals to confirm that it&#8217;s (more likely) a good time to buy in. Many investors like to &#8220;buy right and sit tight&#8221;, I think it might be better to &#8220;sit tight and buy as soon as the market signals well enough that it will confirm that I&#8217;m right&#8221;; neither of us are <em>personally</em> timing the markets. I like to think of this as automating the psychologically difficult stuff.</p><p>I think of this lens a bit like surfing: You can do all the research in the world to choose the beach (sector/theme/etc) and you can paddle out and choose your perfect spot or break at that beach (individual stocks or baskets of stocks), but when it comes to actually catching a big wave you kinda just have to sit there a wait for one to form (and you have to recognize what that looks like); they don&#8217;t show up just because you started paddling (or researching), no matter how hard (or how much of your portfolio you invested), but there will be signs.</p><p>(This strategy of &#8220;<em>start small (usually a 0.25% toe-hold position), then wait and see with a diminishing or widening stop-loss as we average up (usually by 0.25pps per 1x ATR gain for volatility-adjusted total planned allocations of under 5-7%)</em>&#8221; makes it hard for me to write about individual stocks or ideas as I might spend time writing about something, yet the amount of words should not be construed as being too largely correlated with the level of <em>current</em> conviction or position sizing (which I think is often implicitly assumed) as I might have a 2%-5% position one day, then totally sell out the next, all the while my overall interest in the company, business model, or setup in the long-run still being very high &#8212;it just might not have been the time to hold on for the ride, either based on systematic market signals I&#8217;ve mentally agreed to adhere to (despite what I might feel about the situation) or my interpretation of some piece of fundamentals data or management comments relative to the thesis on which I based my current positioning.)</p><p>Meanwhile, for reasons I&#8217;ll explain the the next section, I do tend to pay attention much less and let existing winners run after I&#8217;ve been able to <em>realize</em> near 100% payback on my cost basis for a position and the bar for bailing those positions tends to be a lot higher after that, so long as the basic business model holds or the moats remain strong or growing. They say bad traders turn bad trades into long-term investments; I often look at all new positions through the lens of a &#8220;trade&#8221; and try to keep losses from bad ones de minimis and allow good ones to grow into long-term investments (with increasingly lenient trailing stop loss thresholds and increasing focus on fundamentals and moats).</p><h2>Mintzberg and emergent strategy</h2><p>Circling back to Buffett&#8217;s earlier comment on flowers, weeds, winners, and withering, Henry Mintzberg is a highly recognized management expert and wrote an article in the Harvard Business Review around 2016 (which I can no longer find to link to) suggesting that strategies do not always need to be carefully planned and cultivated &#8220;<em>like tomatoes in a hothouse</em>.&#8221; Instead, strategies can emerge organically like weeds in a garden, where they take root in all kinds of strange places and eventually become valued patterns in an organization's activities. </p><p>These emergent strategies may displace existing deliberate ones, and once recognized as valuable, can be selectively propagated. He argues that managers should simply recognize and intervene when appropriate in this emergent process rather than preconceiving strategies in a top-down fashion. Therefore, from an executive management perspective, it is important to establish a flexible structure that encourages the generation of a wide variety of ideas and allows for the organic emergence of the best strategies.</p><p>Mintzberg&#8217;s ideas (<a href="https://mintzberg.org/blog/growing-strategies">https://mintzberg.org/blog/growing-strategies</a>) around &#8220;grassroots strategy formation&#8221; for executive decision-making are what most crystallized these concepts of coffee can investing for me over time as I think they are easily massaged into this organic, free-range investing perspective. He notes that&#8230;</p><blockquote><p><em>Ideas become strategies when they pervade&nbsp;the organization. Other engineers see what she has done and follow suit. Then the salespeople get the idea. Next thing you know, the organization has a new strategy&#8212;a new pattern in its activities&#8212;which might even come as a surprise to the central management. After all, weeds can proliferate and encompass a whole garden; then the conventional plants look out of place. Likewise, newly emerging strategies can sometimes displace existing deliberate ones.</em></p></blockquote><p>&#8230; Replace &#8220;<em>ideas</em>&#8221; with &#8220;<em>investments</em>&#8221;, think of &#8220;<em>strategies</em>&#8221; as &#8220;<em>favored business models or investment ideas</em>&#8221;, and think of &#8220;<em>the organization</em>&#8221; as your portfolio. I am reminded of the &#8220;<em>scaled economics, shared</em>&#8221; business model, so favored by Nick Sleep that Amazon.com was allowed to become over 50% of his entire portfolio and Costco Wholesale around 25%. In 2009<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a>, Sleep had this to say to investors&#8230;</p><blockquote><p><em>Zak and I think of the Partnership in terms of business models deployed by our investee firms. The names we use to describe these models are not that catchy but please bear with us. The largest group making up over half the Partnership are, no drum roll required, scale-economics-shared; next comes discounts-to-replacement- cost-with-pricing-power (I warned you) at around fifteen percent; hated-agencies fifteen percent; super-high-quality-thinkers just under ten percent. The Partnership has twenty investments but a noticeable concentration in ten, which make up around eighty percent of the portfolio, and for those with sharp eyes around thirty percent of the Partnership in one investment.</em></p></blockquote><p>Mintzberg notes that the processes of proliferation of strategies may or may not be consciously managed. They may be allowed to simply spread by &#8220;<em>collective action, much as plants proliferate themselves</em>&#8221;; in this same way, any particular position might proliferate itself through the basis points of your portfolio. Though, he also allows for the commandeering of an emergent strategy in an organization once it&#8217;s reached a certain critical mass to insert executive action into a strategy going forward and I&#8217;m not totally convinced that this is something that equally applies to portfolio management; why mess with a process that was doing well without you?</p><blockquote><p><em>[Friedrich Nietzsche believed that] The aspect of the whole is much more like that of a huge experimental work-shop where some things in every age succeed, while most things fail; and the aim of all the experiments is not the happiness of the mass but the improvement of the type. Better that societies should come to an end than that no higher type should appear.</em> &#8212;- Will Durant, &#8220;<a href="https://www.math.hkust.edu.hk/~mamyan/sc1030/Will_Durant_StoryOfPhilosophy.pdf">The Story of Philosophy</a>&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>This idea can also be seen in a discussion &#8220;<em>On Concentrated Positions, &#8216;Locking in Profits&#8217; and &#8216;Trimming&#8217;</em>&#8221; in the Horizon Kinetics commentary <a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q1-2021-Review_FINAL.pdf">here</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a> which talks about simply buying a basket of select stocks and simply letting the losers lose and winners run to dominate the weightings of the portfolio over time into large concentrations of a few winners (as well touching on why this is structurally difficult for institutional investors and psychologically difficult for humans in general). </p><p>HK co-founder Steve Bregman describes this concept as &#8216;<em>the secret formula for investing success</em>&#8217; that anyone can do, but that he's confident few will earnestly implement &#8212;when I think about the concept of investing ideas that are made un-investable due simply to institutional imperatives and human biases, sitting and doing nothing while letting positions run concentrated certainly seems to qualify:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>First, you have to choose a large enough number of equally-weighted stocks so that they encompass a normal distribution of possible outcomes &#8211; the good, the bad and the middling. Financial statisticians might agree that 35 or so names are sufficient</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a><em>. <strong>Second, don't trade it. You can make no changes, you can&#8217;t harvest your winners and double up on your losers, etc. [...] Each year, the negative outliers become smaller weights, and even though they&#8217;re doing horribly, they matter less and less. Eventually, they&#8217;ll be a rounding error.</strong> If the two 'smart penny' stocks keep outperforming, they will eventually come to dominate the portfolio. They&#8217;ll expand fro equal 3% positions to 5% positions in a few years, which doesn&#8217;t seem like a lot. <strong>But in year 10, if all the other stocks in the portfolio appreciate their 6% per year, these two stocks will be 22% of the portfolio, and the annualized portfolio return will be 7.4% instead of 6%. The portfolio will be worth 13% more than the indexed portfolio</strong>.</em>&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>I would, however, ride along with the idea that, at a certain critical mass, your certainly not going to be able to treat all of your portfolio positions the same in terms of the amount of time spent on maintenance/monitoring diligence &#8212;I don&#8217;t think, honestly, that you could then fault anyone for shying from this strategy if it were to result in concentrations in businesses whose business models, economics, and 2nd derivative KPI drivers were found to be very opaque and hard to follow; perhaps best to simply avoid those in the first place, regardless of position size. Again, pairing this portfolio Darwinism with a sound initial selection strategy and process would be useful here, rather than simply setup a snapshot of an equal-weighted market index.</p><blockquote><p><em>At first Nietzsche spoke as if his hope were for the production of a new species; later he came to think of his superman as the superior individual rising precariously out of the mire of mass mediocrity, and owing his existence more to deliberate breeding and careful nurture than to the hazards of natural selection. [&#8230;] &#8220;Woe to the thinker who is not the gardener but the soil of his plants!&#8221; Who is it that follows his impulses? The weakling: he lacks the power to inhibit; he is not strong enough to say No; he is a discord, a decadent</em>. &#8212;- Will Durant, &#8220;<a href="https://www.math.hkust.edu.hk/~mamyan/sc1030/Will_Durant_StoryOfPhilosophy.pdf">The Story of Philosophy</a>&#8221;</p></blockquote><h4>Self-organizing criticality</h4><p>Murray Stahl acknowledges this emergent strategy as part of his own investing philosophy in a <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160512141925/http://www.horizonkinetics.com:80/docs/Devil's%20Advocate%20Compendium%20November%202008.pdf">2008 HK commentary</a> Q&amp;A where Stahl says&#8230;</p><blockquote><p><em><strong>At inception, standard position size for me is usually 2%</strong>. I don&#8217;t change it radically over time, because I&#8217;m a big believer in the mathematics of what&#8217;s called <strong>self-ordered criticality</strong>. <strong>Ultimately, if you leave the portfolio alone long enough, whatever your best position is will eventually become your largest position</strong>. In other words, let the portfolio do the work. [&#8230;] Given your view of the enterprise, if you thought it reasonable to establish a 2% position, and the company lost half its value, and all else remained constant, <strong>if you altered the position to make it a 2% position again then you&#8217;re effectively making it a 3% position. That should be done if it is concluded that the risk/reward at the lower level is far superior to all the other companies that are in the portfolio</strong>.</em></p></blockquote><p>As an example, I&#8217;ve set up an equally-weighted hypothetical portfolio of (what are, <em>today</em>) generally well run businesses, so there is a bit of deck stacking here, but I think the point remains valid as an analogy for selecting good businesses to begin with (as we already know what&#8217;s going to happen with the worse or now-bankrupt businesses). I then allowed the <a href="https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio?s=y&amp;timePeriod=4&amp;startYear=1985&amp;firstMonth=1&amp;endYear=2021&amp;lastMonth=12&amp;calendarAligned=true&amp;includeYTD=false&amp;initialAmount=10000&amp;annualOperation=0&amp;annualAdjustment=0&amp;inflationAdjusted=true&amp;annualPercentage=0.0&amp;frequency=4&amp;rebalanceType=0&amp;absoluteDeviation=5.0&amp;relativeDeviation=25.0&amp;leverageType=0&amp;leverageRatio=0.0&amp;debtAmount=0&amp;debtInterest=0.0&amp;maintenanceMargin=25.0&amp;leveragedBenchmark=false&amp;reinvestDividends=true&amp;showYield=true&amp;showFactors=false&amp;factorModel=3&amp;benchmark=VFINX&amp;portfolioNames=true&amp;portfolioName1=DoNothing&amp;portfolioName2=BRK%2FMKL&amp;portfolioName3=VUG&amp;symbol1=BRK.B&amp;allocation1_1=0&amp;allocation1_2=50&amp;symbol2=MKL&amp;allocation2_1=0&amp;allocation2_2=50&amp;symbol3=VUG&amp;allocation3_1=0&amp;allocation3_3=100&amp;symbol4=CSU.TO&amp;allocation4_1=6.25&amp;symbol5=CPHC&amp;allocation5_1=6.25&amp;symbol6=CTG&amp;allocation6_1=6.25&amp;symbol8=FRG&amp;allocation8_1=6.25&amp;symbol9=HHC&amp;allocation9_1=6.25&amp;symbol10=HQI&amp;allocation10_1=6.25&amp;symbol13=IEP&amp;allocation13_1=6.25&amp;symbol14=ITIC&amp;allocation14_1=6.25&amp;symbol15=META&amp;allocation15_1=6.25&amp;symbol17=ROP&amp;allocation17_1=6.25&amp;symbol18=SPLP&amp;allocation18_1=6.25&amp;symbol19=TRTN&amp;allocation19_1=6.25&amp;symbol20=TTWO&amp;allocation20_1=6.25&amp;symbol21=WINA&amp;allocation21_1=6.25&amp;symbol22=TPL&amp;allocation22_1=6.25&amp;symbol23=FNV&amp;allocation23_1=6.25">backtest</a> to run for 10 years from 2012 (simply the earliest available starting date of the youngest component of the portfolio) to the beginning of 2022 with <em>all dividends reinvested and no re-balancing of the portfolio</em>. </p><p>We can see that by simply standing aside and letting the portfolio run unattended 1) the portfolio handily beats the market index and 2) in the course of this, a few outstanding businesses drive the outperformance and come to dominate a larger portion of the portfolio (in this case: Constellation Software, Facebook (now Meta), Take Two Interactive, and Texas Pacific Land Trust); continually re-balancing positions would have been counterproductive to this process.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Truth, like gold, is to be obtained not by its growth, but by washing away from it all that is not gold.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Leo Tolstoy</p></blockquote><p>Further reading on this concept of &#8220;<em>self-ordered criticality</em>&#8221; can be found <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-20275-7">here</a>.</p><h4>An aside on portfolio stock count and &#8220;diversification&#8221;</h4><blockquote><p><em>Indeed, a patient and level-headed monkey, who constructs a portfolio by throwing 50 darts at a board listing all of the S&amp;P 500, will &#8211; over time &#8211; enjoy dividends and capital gains, just as long as it never gets tempted to make changes in its original &#8220;selections.&#8221; &#8212;- Berkshire Hathaway Annual letter, Warren Buffett, 2020</em></p></blockquote><p>At 2pps per position, that would leave a portfolio with 50 different stocks. This is well above the 20-stock limit of effective diversification as popularly cited from Burton Malkiel&#8217;s 1973 &#8220;A Random Walk Down Wall Street&#8221;:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMuO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67ef51c7-2086-41a8-88a6-41f261f645e6_451x396.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LMuO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F67ef51c7-2086-41a8-88a6-41f261f645e6_451x396.png 424w, 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The argument is based on the high variance of the terminal wealth dispersion (TWD) of possible 15-stock portfolios; the final 10yr annualized returns on 98 (initially) equally weighted, randomly selected, 15-stock portfolios<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a> found that 75% of them failed to beat the S&amp;P 500 during that back-testing time period of 1989 to 1999<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a>. </p><p>Bernstein also points out that this does not even consider the survivorship bias of the stocks involved in constructing these portfolios; i.e. his backtest necessarily precluded the possibility for selected stocks to have gone bankrupt and completely disappeared by the end date of the backtest since those were not available to select as starting positions from the dataset he had to work with, which is not a situation that applies to actual investments being made in real time. The reason for this under-performance by the majority of backtested portfolios? </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>The reason is simple: a grossly disproportionate fraction of the total return came from a very few "superstocks" like Dell Computer, which increased in value over 550 times. If you didn&#8217;t have one of the half-dozen or so of these in your portfolio, then you badly lagged the market</strong>. (The odds of owing one of the 10 superstocks are approximately one in six.) Of course, by owning only 15 stocks you also increase your chances of becoming fabulously rich. 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="http://www.efficientfrontier.com/ef/900/15st.htm">http://www.efficientfrontier.com/ef/900/15st.htm</a>, X axis is 10yr annualized returns of a portfolio, Y axis is number of portfolios that achieved those rounded returns; all portfolios started with 15 random, equally-weighted stocks from the SP&amp; 500.</figcaption></figure></div><p>Somewhat addressing this TWD issue, we can look to a more recent short article from Verdad Advisers, LP, that I recently saw tweeted out by &#8220;100-Baggers&#8221; author Chris Mayer<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a>. Unlike the randomized construction of the Bernstein backtest, the backtest here uses factor analysis to rank stocks for each year from 1995 to 2022 and construct and annually rebalance portfolios of 5 to 500 stocks, from the 500 largest US companies, themed on factors of value, growth, quality, and size; the results here generally agree with the 15-to-20-stock observation (not in terms of diversification, but of maximizing CAGR among the constructed portfolios). </p><p>However, it&#8217;s not specified if the portfolios where constructed with equally-weighted stock allocations or what. It should also be noted that this backtest involved annual rebalancing, which the Bernstein backtest did not do &#8212;aside from the particular, annually equal-weighted, &#8220;market portfolio&#8221; he mentions in his post.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2y-W!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51eac37a-9cac-4087-b3ab-1be71c90d05a_590x359.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2y-W!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F51eac37a-9cac-4087-b3ab-1be71c90d05a_590x359.png 424w, 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The main issue I see is that a mutual fund or ETF is not a permanent capital vehicle and so can never offer opportunities to take advantage of market pessimism at the fund level (and if you have a manager you like, that&#8217;s the exact kind of situation in which you would most want to be buying); I write a bit more on this idea in the post <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/103154169/poor-price-performance-affords-greater-wealth-accumulation-iff-youre-running-a-permanent-capital-vehicle">here</a>. </p><p>Furthermore, most indexes are based on rules that implicitly prevent concentration of investments, yet this is exactly what we are looking for when attempting to coffee-can a portfolio and let Pareto distributions aggregate percentage points around the winning stocks. For example, the CRSP US Small Cap Index &#8212;which is the benchmark index used by the Vanguard Small-Cap ETF&#8212; is rebalanced quarterly based on a calculation of the composite companies&#8217; relative market caps<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-19" href="#footnote-19" target="_self">19</a>. </p><p>I&#8217;m fine holding stocks in a bundle a bit larger than the 10-20 limit followed by the &#8220;<em>100-Baggers</em>&#8221; and punch-card philosophy followers; letting these holdings DRIP (or otherwise grow via reinvesting) their way to becoming a larger or smaller concentration of the portfolio over time. For example, Murray Stahl had this to say when I asked about the composition of FRMO&#8217;s various LP investments in the <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2022_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">2QFY2022 shareholder meeting</a>:</p><blockquote><p><em>Ultimately, even though it&#8217;s nowhere near the position size of TPL, the position became sufficiently large so that the dividend flow of Mesabi can pay for more Mesabi. That means it&#8217;s become a self-replicating position, growing organically. And that&#8217;s the goal, to find several positions like that. Ultimately, a position like Mesabi will continue to grow, compound, really, creating more and more dividend flow. Eventually it would become sufficiently large that the share purchase requirements from the dividend flow would exceed our ability to buy more shares, in which case we&#8217;ll find something else to buy. [&#8230;] We stick a little money in there, we get a little dividend flow, the thing becomes self-replicating, and after a while, even without inflation, it becomes meaningful.</em></p></blockquote><p>In any case, I tend to use a <em>standard</em> starting position size closer to 4-5pps per position &#8212;accumulated over some weeks to diversify across time&#8212; for my own purposes as there are often businesses that themselves function as diversified, non-rebalancing, actively managed ETFs or portfolios of sorts; a company like API Group Corp. could be thought of as a non-rebalancing portfolio of statutorily mandated fire/life safety inspection businesses, OTC Markets Group is a kind of beneficiary on the overall activity and health of the OTC markets outside of the larger subset of stocks that make up most indexes and thus most fund flows, there&#8217;s &#8212;my personal favorite&#8212; FRMO Corp. as the most responsibly-run, shareholder aligned, inflation-minded portfolio that includes an vertically integrated Bitcoin business, and more obviously Roper Technologies with their large portfolio of industrial software businesses comes to mind here.</p><p>You could also argue that there are indeed ways to reduce systemic risk in a portfolio with less individual positions &#8212;in exchange for, perhaps, more diversified unsystematic risks&#8212; by selecting stocks that are presently outside or ignored by the fund flows of the global passive/index investing complex, but that&#8217;s a different discussion. </p><p>Greater (meta) diversification can also be gained by equal-weighting a portfolio, not by diversifying percentage point across many different stocks, but across different possible economic environments. I like to use the diagram here as a helpful reference:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8Z4v!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6a79386-2baa-4445-a4b3-cac6fd043db1_784x518.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8Z4v!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6a79386-2baa-4445-a4b3-cac6fd043db1_784x518.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8Z4v!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6a79386-2baa-4445-a4b3-cac6fd043db1_784x518.png 848w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://intelligencequarterly.com/ahead-of-the-herd/the-thinking-mans-quad-system/">https://intelligencequarterly.com/ahead-of-the-herd/the-thinking-mans-quad-system/</a>&nbsp;</figcaption></figure></div><p>Basically, one could start with equally allocated percentage points of a portfolio to each zone of economic possibility &#8212;or weighted based on your confidence levels about which macro futures were most/least likely&#8212; and distribute those points across various stocks as they saw fit. For example, here&#8217;s how I think about the RENN Fund&#8217;s diversification (one of my larger holdings)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-20" href="#footnote-20" target="_self">20</a>, with the business logo sizes here <em>generally</em> corresponding to the size of the position in the fund:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!32RV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe50b2e-03f5-4f49-b374-faaf093fe55a_830x549.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!32RV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe50b2e-03f5-4f49-b374-faaf093fe55a_830x549.png 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>********** UPDATE 20230526: I recently saw a paper here (<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3710251">https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3710251</a>) that used a longer backtest period (30 years from January 1990 to December 2020) than these other observations, across a global portfolio of 64,000 global common stocks, which found that &#8220;stock market wealth creation is highly concentrated; just five firms (Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Alphabet, and Tencent) account for 10.3% of the $US 75.66 trillion in global public stock market net wealth creation in our sample. The best performing 0.25% of firms accounted for half of global net wealth creation and the best performing 2.39% of firms accounted for all net global wealth creation.&#8221; It should be noted that around 1/3rd of this sampling period (2009 - 2020) were during during a period where interest rates were the lowest in history &#8212;which we&#8217;ve presently reverted from, greatly, at the time of my writing this&#8212; which is something that should be kept in mind when looking at the &#8216;winners&#8217; of this backwards-looking sample set.**********</em></p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20231224:</em></p><p><em>I recently saw this interesting video on the ecosystems of life within the sandstone pothole pools of the Moab desert and it reminded me of this economic-quadrant based meta-diversification idea.</em></p><p><em>These various plankton and shrimp that have not evolved much since the Mesozoic Era may live in tiny, singular, isolated pools carved into the sandstone geography of the Moab over millions of years. These ecosystems go through periodic dry seasons where these pools can dry up entirely and the animals that live in these pools have had to evolve a number if diverse ways to survive. </em></p><div id="youtube2-RsrJ2GopI28" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;RsrJ2GopI28&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:&quot;393&quot;,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/RsrJ2GopI28?start=393&amp;rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;The shrimp are aquatic, period. [&#8230;] You know, we all say don't put all your eggs in one basket, but these shrimp, they're stuck in that one basket <strong>they watch that basket by producing eggs that hatch under different conditions; that even the same clutch will hatch under different conditions.</strong>&#8221;</em></p></blockquote><p><em>(More on these ecosystems can be found in a short read here: <a href="https://geochange.er.usgs.gov/sw/impacts/biology/vernal/">https://geochange.er.usgs.gov/sw/impacts/biology/vernal/</a>)</em></p><p><em>I always take it as a good sign when my investment strategy can be easily analogized to something that comports closely to natural processes or, vice versa, where one can easily see how certain natural process can be analogized to investment strategy or ideas. Barring evolutionary algorithms, nature is the most diverse, longest-running, and widest-scoped steel-manning process one could pull lessons from.</em></p><p><em>(Evolutionary algorithms are another interesting concept if you want to read more on them; such class of algo was used to produce the radio antenna shown below).</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7RGY!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d95d736-a463-4a77-8935-2f30ac7a9bcd_220x282.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7RGY!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d95d736-a463-4a77-8935-2f30ac7a9bcd_220x282.jpeg 424w, 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A few successful artists generate the majority of revenue for record labels, so it is important for labels to take calculated risks in signing and promoting unknown artists.</p><p>One example of this can be seen in the case of Taylor Swift who was signed to a small record label, Big Machine Records, when she was just a teenager. The label took a risk on her by investing in her development as an artist and promoting her music; Swift's early success was not a guarantee, but the label believed in her potential and invested in her regardless.</p><p>Of course, not every risk pays off. For every Taylor Swift, there are dozens of artists who sign with record labels and never achieve mainstream success. However, the potential rewards of finding the next big thing are so great that labels are willing to take these risks so long as these wins can cover the remaining losses. In the end, the music industry is a business of probabilities. The more risks a label takes, the more likely it is to find the next big thing. And when it does, the rewards can be enormous.</p><p>As Swift's career took off, she became one of the top-selling artists in the music industry and generated significant gains for Big Machine Records. (However, their relationship eventually soured, and Swift left the label for a new deal with Universal Music Group. This move was likely influenced by the fact that Swift had become so successful that she could negotiate for more favorable terms and retain more control over her music and brand.)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-21" href="#footnote-21" target="_self">21</a></p><p>Of course, to the benefit of investors in the stock market, unlike with Swift and the record label who invested in her, public companies don&#8217;t <em>generally</em> have control on who owns their stock<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-22" href="#footnote-22" target="_self">22</a>.</p><p>From the interesting Acquired podcast episode on Taylor Swift (<a href="https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/taylor-swift-acquireds-version">https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/taylor-swift-acquireds-version</a>), they have a discussion re. the value creation/capture of the music label business&#8230;</p><blockquote><p><em>When you sign a distribution deal where a record label fronts you the money, you make the album, they then own the master, your royalty stream&#8212;again, independently negotiated&#8212;but you only end up with like 10%, 15%. Maybe if you're a really big artist you can get like 20%, 22%. </em></p></blockquote><p>In passive investing we can kind of think of this as capital returns to shareholders relative to total operating cash flow per share (minus maintenance capex). 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I&#8217;d 1) as a (halfhearted) Bitcoin Bro, take the advice of Peter Thiel to note that &#8220;competition is for losers&#8230;</div><div class="embedded-post-cta-wrapper"><span class="embedded-post-cta">Read more</span></div><div class="embedded-post-meta">4 years ago &#183; RV</div></a></div><p>&#8230; And of course it&#8217;s not always obvious that you&#8217;d want a big return of capital from an investment, anyways, vs retaining cash for reinvestment if the business has viable growth prospects and can earn a high incremental ROIC above WACC, CoE, or whatever your personal hurdle rate might be for the determined risk. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FmQn!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7f853c3-fcff-43c6-94c8-c723b020a675_684x106.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FmQn!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7f853c3-fcff-43c6-94c8-c723b020a675_684x106.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FmQn!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7f853c3-fcff-43c6-94c8-c723b020a675_684x106.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FmQn!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7f853c3-fcff-43c6-94c8-c723b020a675_684x106.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FmQn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7f853c3-fcff-43c6-94c8-c723b020a675_684x106.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FmQn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7f853c3-fcff-43c6-94c8-c723b020a675_684x106.png" width="684" height="106" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f7f853c3-fcff-43c6-94c8-c723b020a675_684x106.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:106,&quot;width&quot;:684,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:23008,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FmQn!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7f853c3-fcff-43c6-94c8-c723b020a675_684x106.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FmQn!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7f853c3-fcff-43c6-94c8-c723b020a675_684x106.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FmQn!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7f853c3-fcff-43c6-94c8-c723b020a675_684x106.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FmQn!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7f853c3-fcff-43c6-94c8-c723b020a675_684x106.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_returnoninvestedcapital.pdfhttps://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_returnoninvestedcapital.pdf">https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_returnoninvestedcapital.pdf</a>; I&#8217;d maybe look at a 2yr or 3yr ROIIC, rather than just giving 1yr for incremental investments to start generating returns in full swing (note, that&#8217;s a -1 in the IC denominator term).</figcaption></figure></div><p>What really caught my ear in this podcast episode was the discussion on the power law dynamic (or Pareto distribution) that characterizes the music label industry:</p><blockquote><p><em>The last one that I want to dive into a little bit here is that advances interestingly are a <strong>clear sign of a power law dynamic</strong> where you mentioned it's like book publishing, we talked about how it's like venture. It's the same thing in all these things&#8212;music, books, and startups&#8212;where having the big winners in your portfolio is really what matters.</em></p><p><em>At one point, I had a book agent tell me that America basically picks one book a year to all read together. It's the Michelle Obama book or it's whatever it's going to be. <strong>You don't know what that's going to be ahead of time. You don't really care that much about recouping your advances on the losers. All you care about is making it so that in your portfolio, you get the book that America reads every year</strong>.</em></p><p><em><strong>It's just so similar to venture capital. The way that the payback works is so similar to where, okay, an advance and then you recoup against the royalties</strong>. What's preferred stock? The first X amount goes to the capital provider in exchange for the capital they've provided and then they participate with some split in whatever outcome is after that. I don't want to quite get into the nuances of participating preferred and how it's slightly different, but the fact of the matter is, these contracts that seem predatory, and I'm not going to argue yet that they're not predatory, but what they're doing is basically making sure that they cover their losses.</em></p><p><em><strong>There's this interesting human nature thing where if you look around and you're the winner, and you realize you're the one subsidizing everyone else, it's really easy to forget that you had an equal chance of failing if someone was to underwrite you</strong>. You're like, why am I paying so much back to this original capital provider? I hate being locked into this deal. <strong>But that deal was theoretically whatever the market clearing price was in order to take the risk on you as a young startup, author, or artist</strong>.</em></p></blockquote><p>Near the end here, they are of course referencing the more general Pareto principal that is often associated more closely with VC investing<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-23" href="#footnote-23" target="_self">23</a>, rather than investing in general, but I would contend that it does apply more broadly. This dynamic also reminds me of <a href="https://bigleagueadvantage.com/">Big League Advance</a> (a private equity investment of Murray Stahl&#8217;s).</p><p>Earlier in the episode, re. how record labels treat these artists they are signing, the hosts mention&#8230; </p><blockquote><p><em>They're trying to capture revenue even if they're not helping you create the album and you're over-producing revenue on your own on their side.<strong> They're like, oh, we're your label so we're involved in everything your brand does</strong>.</em></p></blockquote><p>&#8230; Sounds a lot like owning equity as a passive investor (in the right / properly aligned companies), doesn&#8217;t it?</p><p>Then, on why the industry isn&#8217;t fair&#8230;</p><blockquote><p><em>[I]n order for these terms to truly be market price, you need the labels to not be making a ton of profit. If they're very profitable on a free cash flow basis, all the way, full bottom line, if they're printing money, then what you can say is, jeez, is this an oligopoly? There are only three people here, so there's not actually a good competition among the people that want to give you money as an advance in order to do all the stuff that a record label does. These businesses aren't that good of businesses, but&#8230; It's an oligopoly. It's an oligopoly.</em></p></blockquote><p>So, to even more closely replicate this model in your portfolio, this is perhaps a message to go for the niche, illiquid, and pessimism-fraught areas &#8212;ie. where there is a lesser supply of other &#8220;labels&#8221; and capital looking to &#8220;sign&#8221; those &#8220;artists.&#8221; Like I mention at the end of the previous section, selecting stocks that are presently outside or ignored by the fund flows of the global passive/index investing complex may also be a good way to reduce systemic risk.</p><p>While the hosts spend most of the episode pulling for the underdogs &#8212;Taylor Swift and the other artists under the record labels&#8212; they do acknowledge the value created by the music labels and their aggregating of risk as well&#8230;</p><blockquote><p><em>I think, in the same way that we would need to&#8212;throughout this entire episode&#8212;advocate for the rights of the artist and the person really creating something that people love, there is also real value in the world and taking a chance on someone. That doesn't mean you [should] have infinite upside from taking a small chance once, but it is worth recognizing that this was a risk.</em></p></blockquote><p>&#8230; Note that, with equity investing, rightly or wrongly, the upside really is unlimited.</p><div><hr></div><h2>In defense of degeneracy, junk food, and strategic drift&#8230; (or simulated annealing, as I call it)</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!3pg6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbeffb75c-e518-4ac3-aae1-23de2aceca5e_888x499.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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For this category, I like to be able to check something like <a href="https://www.dataroma.com/m/stock.php?sym=PMD">dataroma</a> and <a href="https://www.etf.com/stock/PMD">etf.com</a> and check that very few high-profile funds/investors hold the stock and that only a small minority of total shares are held by any indexes.</p><p>Simulated annealing is a machine learning concept that is used to find the best solution to a problem by mimicking the process of annealing in metallurgy. Annealing is a process by which metals are heated and then cooled slowly to create a structure that is more uniform and stronger. In simulated annealing, we start with a random solution and then slowly make small changes to it. We then compare the new solution with the old one, and if the new solution is better, we accept it. If the new solution is worse, we may still accept it with a certain probability, which decreases over time. This process of accepting less optimal solutions with decreasing probability allows us to escape from local minima, which are suboptimal solutions that we may get stuck in if we exclusively accept ever-improving solutions. This may seem counter-productive, but I will explain a bit more&#8230;</p><p>Let&#8217;s say we have a large two-dimensional cross-section of rolling hills and we want to find the lowest point of elevation in the area. We could use simulated annealing to solve this problem. We can attempt to find the global minimum of an error function by starting with a high point and randomly sampling nearby points. As the error values we sample decreases, the probability of moving to a worse solution decreases, allowing the algorithm to converge to the global minimum.</p><p>In our example, we could start at a random point on the map and use simulated annealing to find the lowest point. At high points, we would randomly move to nearby points on the map, regardless of whether they were lower or higher in elevation. As the elevation declines, we would gradually reduce the probability of moving to a higher point, allowing us to converge to the lowest point on the map.</p><p>Simulated annealing is a useful technique for escaping local minima because it allows the algorithm to explore the search space more broadly, rather than getting stuck in a suboptimal solution. By gradually reducing the error, the algorithm can focus more on exploiting the best solutions it has found, rather than continuing to explore new areas of the search space. The Nifty-Fifty referred to a group of highly regarded stocks in the 1960s and 1970s that were believed to be &#8220;<em>one-decision</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-24" href="#footnote-24" target="_self">24</a> stocks that seemingly offering guaranteed growth and stability until their prices were brought back to earth in the 1973 recession &#8212;today, the majority have been acquired by competitors or have gone bankrupt. The fate of the former Nifty-Fifty are a testament to the value of continually finding ways to break from the norms of <em>any</em> given period.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-25" href="#footnote-25" target="_self">25</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YYRq!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9f047731-764a-4e35-a00a-ef99eb935795_1118x498.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!YYRq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9f047731-764a-4e35-a00a-ef99eb935795_1118x498.gif 424w, 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y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://towardsdatascience.com/an-introduction-to-a-powerful-optimization-technique-simulated-annealing-87fd1e3676dd">https://towardsdatascience.com/an-introduction-to-a-powerful-optimization-technique-simulated-annealing-87fd1e3676dd</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>Amazon&#8217;s Jeff Bezos has talked repeatedly about the value of a culture of experimentation, nimble iteration, and getting in reps of shots-on-goal; even the iterations through the various phases of Warren Buffett&#8217;s investing career were characterized by high portfolio turnover<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-26" href="#footnote-26" target="_self">26</a>.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>I believe we are the best place in the world to fail (we have plenty of practice!), and failure and invention are inseparable twins. To invent you have to experiment, and if you know in advance that it&#8217;s going to work, it&#8217;s not an experiment. Most large organizations embrace the idea of invention, but are not willing to suffer the string of failed experiments necessary to get there. [&#8230;] In business, every once in a while, when you step up to the plate, you can score 1,000 runs. This long-tailed distribution of returns is why it&#8217;s important to be bold. Big winners pay for so many experiments.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Jeff Bezos, &#8220;<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1018724/000119312516530910/d168744dex991.htm">Amazon.com, 1997 Letter to Shareholders</a>&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>&#8230; In a coffee-can strategy, I&#8217;d perhaps limit this category of investments to 5-10% of a portfolio (with, say, a 1pps maximum position size per stock); a small but important portion of the portfolio dedicated to little experiments that could have significant payouts.</p><p>The closing comments on this video about the trails and tribulations of ants &#8212;in particular, death spirals&#8212; I think are quite relevant here:</p><div id="youtube2-YozsViVwNz4" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;YozsViVwNz4&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:&quot;765&quot;,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/YozsViVwNz4?start=765&amp;rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><div id="youtube2-M-AUbghuC7M" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;M-AUbghuC7M&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/M-AUbghuC7M?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><div><hr></div><h2>An experiment</h2><p>I&#8217;ve allocated a significant portion of my own money aside for testing a version of this strategy over the course of the next few years and may make posts for periodic progress updates. I have injected a significant cash allocation into a secondary portfolio and will be slowly allocating 2-3pps per position into various dividend-paying stocks (with some allotment for small non-income generating bets) over the course of the next 12 months across a broad swath of sectors up to at least 50% of the portfolio &#8212;the remainder of the cash will be held in a money market fund for the time being where interest income can be used to fund further incremental investment; staggered in this way to allow for even better opportunities to show up in time. I plan to sell <em>nothing</em> out of this portfolio &#8212;one of the reasons for the cautious pace of my dollar cost averaging plan&#8212; and allow self-ordered criticality to allow the winners to rise in the fullness of time.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JMLp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d846052-a56f-4364-b8bc-2b94dcfb4f43_970x482.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JMLp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4d846052-a56f-4364-b8bc-2b94dcfb4f43_970x482.png 424w, 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This also allows me to dollar cost average that cash, that otherwise be donated each month, towards investments that can compound and generate further income into the future. I plan on doing regular annual or semi-annual updates on this portfolio going forward.</p><h2>An aside on dividends vs buybacks and selling shares</h2><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>[A]t some day, a financial asset has to give you back cash to justify you laying out cash for it now. Investing is the art, essentially, of laying out cash now to get a whole lot more cash later on, and something at some point better deliver cash.</em>&#8221; ~~~ Warren Buffett (1998, <a href="https://buffett.cnbc.com/video/1998/05/04/morning-session---1998-berkshire-hathaway-annual-meeting.html">https://buffett.cnbc.com/video/1998/05/04/morning-session---1998-berkshire-hathaway-annual-meeting.html</a>)</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8220;&#8220; </p><p><em>Me: Could management give a bit more detail on what would entice them to make dividend distributions to FRMO shareholders? On the point regarding Mr.Bregman's comments on stock dividends for investors to create a home-made custom dividend yield opposed to cash dividends from the company and also relating to the gentleman's question on FRMO's valuation near the end of the previous meeting, I'd just like to say that: 1] I would like to retain as much relative percent interest as possible in the business of FRMO itself for as long as possible and 2] I would like any gains received from my ownership of the business to be based on the economics of the underlying business rather than the vagaries of Mr.Market and whatever the market price and liquidity happens to be on offer in the market at any given time. </em></p><p><em>As the gentleman in the previous meeting notes, the valuation of FRMO by Mr.Market does not always make perfect sense. I'd like to repeat the Warren Buffett quote that &#8220;I never attempt to make money on the stock market. I buy on the assumption that they could close the market the next day and not reopen it for five years.&#8221; From this perspective I completely understand management's continued apparent deprioritizing of uplisting FRMO; it has nothing to do with the fundamental operation of the business. </em></p><p><em>With a cash dividend, the economics of the business or underlying owned businesses of FRMO can speak for themselves and could, in a way, reduce or eliminate the need for any kind of uplisting, re-rating, or other form of greater recognition from marginal buyers in order to reward existing shareholders, in this case rewarding existing shareholders for inching towards becoming ex-shareholders. This would also allow existing shareholders who are not directors to continue opportunistically accumulating shares without having to compete with any newer segment of Mr.Market that any road show may gain the attention of.</em></p><p><em>Murray Stahl: Okay. So the moment I agree with all, by the way, I agree with all the sentiments in the question. 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Note that because of the goal of using a portion of this portfolio for charitable giving, it will necessarily need to generate cash income and thus will be mostly restricted to dividend-producing securities &#8212;with the exception of some &#8216;simulated annealing&#8217;. In a way, this means that I&#8217;d have to seek businesses that do not (at least consistently) have opportunities to redeploy all of their cash at attractive incremental returns on capital &#8212;again, OTC Markets Group comes to mind here.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png" width="608" height="176" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:176,&quot;width&quot;:608,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43437,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!G7xz!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb32a4a46-5c48-401d-aa83-afe86516a84e_608x176.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://twitter.com/ralphinvests/status/1283507205216407552?s=20">twitter.com</a>; <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whats-my-upside-how-to-break-down-where-your-return/id1352422076?i=1000479666073">Focused Cmpunding</a>; screenshot included here, since Elon Musk has restricted tweet embedding in response to the Substack Notes launch  </figcaption></figure></div><p>At the very least, I like dividends as a bit of a heuristic that hint that the CEO is not simply interested in empire-building.</p><p>I&#8217;m banking on dividends here because I don&#8217;t really like the &#8220;sell-off&#8221; alternative to income generation from a portfolio where buybacks are used to increase the value of each share and then investors are expected to sell off their shares in the business in proportion to the amount of income they would like to withdraw from the business. This &#8220;sell-off&#8221; idea is mentioned by Buffett in the sections covering dividends and dividend policies of Lawrence Cunningham&#8217;s &#8220;The Essays of Warren Buffett&#8221;:</p><blockquote><p><em>These earnings may, with equal feasibility, be retained or distributed. In our opinion, management should choose whichever course makes greater sense for the owners of the business. This principle is not universally accepted. For a number of reasons managers like to withhold unrestricted, readily distributable earnings from shareholders-to expand the corporate empire over which the managers rule, to operate from a position of exceptional financial comfort, etc. But we believe there is only one valid reason for retention. Unrestricted earnings should be retained only when there is a reasonable prospect-backed preferably by historical evidence or, when appropriate, by a thoughtful analysis of the future-that for every dollar retained by the corporation, at least one dollar of market value will be created for owners. This will happen only if the capital retained produces incremental earnings equal to, or above, those generally available to investors</em>.</p></blockquote><p>You can see Buffett speaking on this issue here:</p><div id="youtube2-YalcD69EAsQ" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;YalcD69EAsQ&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/YalcD69EAsQ?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p><strong>IMO, dividends have the added benefit of making &#8216;real&#8217; any positive economics of a business in a way that is agnostic of how Mr.Market may be pricing your shares at any given time</strong> as opposed to relying on the market to 1) be open and available <em>with enough liquidity</em> and 2) favorably price your shares at the given time that you may want to sell shares for income purposes (i.e. requiring you to time the market) as Buffett proposes and has done with his Berkshire stock for the purposes of charitable giving. Until I&#8217;m actually getting cash in hand from my investments, they&#8217;re just numbers and charts on a computer screen that the market&#8217;s marginal buyers/sellers can write down at any time.</p><p>In Buffett&#8217;s own words, from the <a href="https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1979.html">1979 Berkshire annual letter</a>:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>The reasoning of managements that seek large trading activity in their shares puzzles us.&nbsp; In effect, such managements are saying that they want a good many of the existing clientele continually to desert them in favor of new ones &#8212;because you can&#8217;t add lots of new owners (with new expectations) without losing lots of former owners.</em>&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>&#8230; yet that&#8217;s exactly the logical consequence of relying on the sell-off method for custom, home-made &#8220;dividends&#8221; that Buffett advocates shareholder do with BRK stock. Unless of course you don&#8217;t actually care about getting cash back from your investment and just want to see the number on your brokerage computer screen go up.</p><p>Would you <em>start</em> a business just to watch the equity value go up with only the goal of eventually finding someone to selling it off to &#8212;and not even taking a salary at any point along the way? Maybe I&#8217;m alone here, but I wouldn&#8217;t. And I wouldn&#8217;t <em>buy</em> a business to do the same either. Maybe I just don&#8217;t like the zero-sum aspect of buying businesses with the idea of only profiting from selling them off to someone else at a higher price. I want to have to care 0% about what Mr.Market is going to think of the situation when it comes to how I&#8217;m going to get rewarded for owning a business in the longrun.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p7qR!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6b92d4d-efe0-4da9-b3b5-7fae052d270e_1126x911.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!p7qR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa6b92d4d-efe0-4da9-b3b5-7fae052d270e_1126x911.jpeg 424w, 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I assume that if the company can sustainably grow it&#8217;s FCF/sh over time (and can distribute it in some proportional way), then the DCF and capital gains will take care of themselves.</p><p>.</p><p>My theory on why Buffett espouses this buyback-dividend-equivalency idea, despite its many conflicts with reality, is because of the fact that the amounts of capital he works with are so large that the liquidity of the kinds of securities he normally invests in would never be an issue (vs certain OTC or otherwise thinly traded stocks I may own). It is also very possibly because he is simply <em>addicted to investing</em> and wants to keep the dividends to himself and remain more directly involved in their reinvestment; I don&#8217;t think this should actually be very hard to believe or is <em>necessarily</em> a bad thing for shareholders.</p><p>Unless management has made a good case for a company&#8217;s shares being highly discounted vs fair value, I&#8217;d rather just get capital returned as a dividend and let the business&#8217;s FCF and yield speak for itself and let Mr.Market re-rate the stock on it&#8217;s own. But buybacks as a preferred return-of-capital mechanism just for tax purposes (even when a company&#8217;s stock is trading at or above fair value (if management is even thinking about value when deciding spend on buybacks))? No.</p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20230923: I was recently skimming across the highlights and scribbled notes in my copy of Lawrence Cunningham&#8217;s &#8220;The Essays of Warren Buffett&#8221; and got to the section on Buffett&#8217;s commentary on Berkshire&#8217;s listing on the NYSE and discussion on shareholder appeals for a BRK stock split (Chapter III in the 8th edition). Perhaps the reason that buybacks have a great equivalence to dividends in Buffett&#8217;s mind is because Berkshire is explicitly managed in a way that is intended to &#8212;among other things&#8212; attract shareholders that &#8220;think and behave like rational long-term owners&#8221; and to encourage the rational trading of the stock &#8220;in a narrow range centered at intrinsic business value (which we hope increases at a reasonable &#8212;or better yet, unreasonable&#8212;rate)&#8221;; perhaps these are the only kinds of companies that one should invest in. If this kind of behavior were the case in the wider market, which I don&#8217;t think anyone seriously believes, then indeed Mauboussin&#8217;s assumptions in his dividend-buyback equivalency &#8216;proof&#8217; would indeed comport with reality.</em> <em>(Though as I mention later in this post, even in a totally rational market, realizing an equivalent dividend yield from buybacks is not always possible at certain unit stock prices and position sizes).</em> **********</p><p>.</p><p>A cash dividend also has additional value to a shareholder from its optionality; you have the option to reinvest, reallocate, or even take that out and finance your Costco membership, groceries, or a little date night&#8230;. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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Is she gonna eat holographic meatloaf or something? :  SonicTheHedgehog" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jE-r!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb580e99e-aa07-4e03-8597-f4e495ff79f2_355x200.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jE-r!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb580e99e-aa07-4e03-8597-f4e495ff79f2_355x200.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jE-r!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb580e99e-aa07-4e03-8597-f4e495ff79f2_355x200.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!jE-r!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb580e99e-aa07-4e03-8597-f4e495ff79f2_355x200.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>&#8230; The cost to a shareholder being the associated taxes &#8212;which can be reduced to the same amount as the &#8220;sell-off&#8221; method if you simply hold the stock for the long-term such that the dividend is &#8220;qualified&#8221; or in the case of &#8220;special&#8221; dividends<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-27" href="#footnote-27" target="_self">27</a>&#8212; and the opportunity cost being that the business you own is unable to reinvest that portion of cash flow on your behalf towards growing their own operations; maybe that&#8217;s not so crazy&#8230; </p><p>In Mauboussin&#8217;s 2022 &#8220;<a href="https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_capitalallocation.pdf">Capital Allocation</a>&#8221; paper, he recalls an interesting mental experiment by, economist and financial historian, Peter Bernstein in which companies disburse all of their earnings to their shareholders and then ask the markets for funds to invest as the business comes up with new opportunities &#8212;essentially, investors would be able to invest in businesses on a per project basis. His thinking was that since markets are better at allocating capital than companies, overall capital allocation would improve as the result of this check by the capital markets; you can read that full interview <a href="https://money.cnn.com/2004/10/11/markets/benstein_bonus_0411/index.htm">here</a>.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-28" href="#footnote-28" target="_self">28</a> Of course, this would seem to rely on a high level of efficient market hypothesis and reliable equanimity from Mr.Market that I don&#8217;t think most people outside of universities believe to be representative of reality.</p><p>Taking this income focused POV, me and Buffett do have something in common, we both don&#8217;t care too much about the day-to-day stock price &#8212;I&#8217;d argue myself even less so given that Buffett and his BRK shareholders would still need to rely on those price signals to get an idea of how much he can actually get from the market for his home made &#8220;sell off&#8221; capital harvesting at any given time. What I care about is longterm yield-on-cost and income growth above the rate of (real) inflation which I find, in itself, encourages one to look at the business on a more fundamentals-based perspective; it drawing more focus to things like economic moat, free cash flow (as you want a dividend derived from CFFO and not from debt or other temporal financing arbitrage), the longterm growth thereof, the efficiency of invested capital, the business/industry&#8217;s general WACC trends, and management alignment &#8212;vs spending any of my time speculating on what&#8217;s going to induce Mr.Market to re-rate a multiple. &#8220;<em>Business owners think longer term than renters do.</em>&#8221;</p><p>In any case, a dividend also acts as a kind of hedge against rising interest rates in that it adds a near-term cashflow component to a security that might otherwise be purely a long-duration one, since you are now receiving cashflows on an on-going basis in addition to the (more uncertain) expectation that you can recieve cashflows further in the future based on capital gains when you decide to liquidate for whatever reason or on the hope of some distant establishment of a dividend policy down the road at a higher yield-on-cost; I&#8217;ll take a little bit now at the cost of, perhaps, slower capital appreciation growth from re-investment activities just to create this diversity in duration risk on the stock.  </p><p>Management receiving certain types of bonuses from a business presents another small thing that makes me look at the situation askance when dividends are absent, since these are forms of distributions tied to the economics of the business (vs Mr.Market&#8217;s pricing thereof) that shareholders are excluded from &#8212;I get that it can help align incentives, but still&#8230; I guess like most things, it really boils to down to &#8220;<em>it depends</em>&#8221;. At least in this respect, I recognize that the more aligned companies that lack distributions, like Berkshire and FRMO, have management riding in the same boat as shareholders (the latter even more so than the former given that Stahl doesn&#8217;t even get a salary as FRMO&#8217;s chairman)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-29" href="#footnote-29" target="_self">29</a>. Nor am I a fan of the buyback/distribution equivalency as detailed by Michael Mauboussin, which critically relies on the <em>theoretical assumption that your stock will always trade at fair value and will have sufficient liquidity in the market to sell your shares at that fair value price</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-30" href="#footnote-30" target="_self">30</a> &#8212;not to mention the issue of losing your share of the overall business. Maouboussin says as much in &#8220;<a href="https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_capitalallocation.pdf">Capital Allocation: Results, Analysis, and Assessment</a>&#8221;: </p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;<strong>In reality, the conditions required for equivalence almost never hold</strong>. For example, the tax rate for dividends and long-term capital gains is the same for investors who hold shares in accounts subject to taxes, but the amount to be taxed can differ. The full dividend amount is taxed but with a buyback only the capital gains are taxed. Investors who sell shares in an amount equivalent to the dividend, creating a homemade dividend, are taxed based on the difference between the price of the sale and their cost basis for the stock. In non-taxable accounts, the tax issue is not relevant. None of this is tax advice, but we want to point out that tax treatment can create a difference in economic outcomes for dividends and buybacks. Dividends tend to occur on a specific schedule, with most companies paying every quarter. <strong>Buybacks are much more sporadic. We also saw that dividends are much more stable than buybacks (exhibit 33). The assumption of identical timing does not reflect how companies actually behave</strong>.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote><p>.</p><p>I get that buybacks reduce sharecount, but to that end I really only see them as a real return-of-capital if they are &#8212;assuming they are even in excess of that period&#8217;s stock-based comp dilution&#8212; a prelude to increased dividends per share. </p><p>.</p><p>Homemade, selloff-based dividends are not even always possible if the hypothetical yield from a buyback if the dividend rate is less than the price of your stake (not to mention it's just more work on your part do do this calculation and sell-off every year). Shares of TPL currently trade around $1370/sh and have around a 1% dividend yield. In order to be able to sell off shares to collect a yield equivalent to that of the dividend, if it were instead rolled into TPL&#8217;s buyback program, you would need to own $137000 worth of TPL stock (X * 0.01 = $1370 ==&gt; X = $137000) or 100 shares, any lesser amount of shares and your &#8220;yield&#8221; would be below the value of a single share. Even if you had a $1MM portfolio, you would need to commit to a greater than 10% concentration in TPL for the selloff-based dividend option to be available to you. </p><p>A similar situation can be found in the case of Constellation Software (TSX:CSU). The company has distributed an annual dividend of around $85MM has traded at a declining dividend yield ranging from 4% to 0.2% over the last decade due to it&#8217;s rising stock price. Through all of 2022, the dividend yield was around 0.25% while the stock traded at an average price of $1569.63/sh. How many discrete shares of CSU.TO would you need to own to have been able to sell off 0.25% of your position that year to actually realize a selloff-based dividend if that distributable cash (FCF available to shareholders (FCFA2S) as Mark Leonard calls it) was used on stock buybacks vs dividend proper? </p><p>We want to know the minimum number of shares required to realize the dividend by selling off stock, <em>Rm &gt; 0</em>. </p><p>Let <em>Sp</em> be the share price after the buybacks ($1569.63 x (1 + 0.0025)).</p><p>Let position size, <em>P = Sp x Rm</em>.</p><p>Using the modulo operator from discrete math (which just gives you the remainder of a dividend and divisor), if Rm is such that we can sell of 0.25% of our position in whole stock units, then: <em>(P x 0.0025) mod Sp = 0.</em> </p><p>Solving for Rm in this system of equations, we have Rm = 400n where n is a whole number &gt;=1.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-31" href="#footnote-31" target="_self">31</a> That is, we need a minimum of 400 shares of CSU.TO (which would have totaled $627,852 at the time) to have been able to realize that 0.25% dividend by selling off stock instead (and would need to buy additional shares in increments of 400 in order to increase position size while still maintaining the ability to sell-off a 0.25% yield). </p><p>In computer science, this could be looked at as a <em>0/1 knapsack problem</em> (or <em>subset sum problem</em>) where you are constrained to have the knapsack use <em>all available space</em>; the knapsack size being your desired yield amount (or the yield you&#8217;d get if a company&#8217;s buyback spend were instead distributed) and each item is weighted by the unit stock price. There&#8217;s only a limited range of scenarios where your going to be able to get a perfect fit in this case &#8212;and you&#8217;d still have to contend with the market actually providing the liquidity to make it work. That is, not all knapsack problems have a perfect, knapsack-filling solution. (It would be another story if you could easily sell fractional shares).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rbem!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1431eb04-75c7-4013-a83f-7670c8ddd148_833x730.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rbem!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1431eb04-75c7-4013-a83f-7670c8ddd148_833x730.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rbem!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1431eb04-75c7-4013-a83f-7670c8ddd148_833x730.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rbem!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1431eb04-75c7-4013-a83f-7670c8ddd148_833x730.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rbem!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1431eb04-75c7-4013-a83f-7670c8ddd148_833x730.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rbem!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1431eb04-75c7-4013-a83f-7670c8ddd148_833x730.png" width="833" height="730" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1431eb04-75c7-4013-a83f-7670c8ddd148_833x730.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:730,&quot;width&quot;:833,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:58564,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rbem!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1431eb04-75c7-4013-a83f-7670c8ddd148_833x730.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rbem!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1431eb04-75c7-4013-a83f-7670c8ddd148_833x730.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rbem!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1431eb04-75c7-4013-a83f-7670c8ddd148_833x730.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Rbem!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1431eb04-75c7-4013-a83f-7670c8ddd148_833x730.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">&#8220;Algorithm Design Manual&#8221; 2nd edition, Steven S. Skiena</figcaption></figure></div><p>.</p><p><s>If I were forced to extend an olive branch to the sell-off&#8217;ers, I&#8217;d maybe put it like this: If you plan to hold and do not require (or desire) current income, then buybacks are fine</s><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-32" href="#footnote-32" target="_self">32</a><s>; if you plan to hold and require current income (i.e. not re-investing distributions), prefer dividends. For the purposes of this experimental portfolio, I require realized income &#8212;and have no desire on relying on Mr.Market&#8217;s day-to-day sentiment or liquidity to provide that, nor do I want to reduce my share in any of the companies that I plan to coffee can and allow the Taylor Swifts of the bunch to emerge from. </s></p><p>But no matter what, I will say this: The mindset should be that <em>yield</em> &#8212;not capital gains&#8212; better come <em>eventually</em>, else you&#8217;re just playing an online multiplayer video game of find-the-greater-fool.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!67ZX!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9079a5-4bc8-4c45-a2b9-16fccd987166_360x202.gif" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!67ZX!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9079a5-4bc8-4c45-a2b9-16fccd987166_360x202.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!67ZX!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9079a5-4bc8-4c45-a2b9-16fccd987166_360x202.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!67ZX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9079a5-4bc8-4c45-a2b9-16fccd987166_360x202.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!67ZX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9079a5-4bc8-4c45-a2b9-16fccd987166_360x202.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!67ZX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9079a5-4bc8-4c45-a2b9-16fccd987166_360x202.gif" width="584" height="327.68888888888887" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4b9079a5-4bc8-4c45-a2b9-16fccd987166_360x202.gif&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:202,&quot;width&quot;:360,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:584,&quot;bytes&quot;:6659193,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/gif&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!67ZX!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9079a5-4bc8-4c45-a2b9-16fccd987166_360x202.gif 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!67ZX!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9079a5-4bc8-4c45-a2b9-16fccd987166_360x202.gif 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!67ZX!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9079a5-4bc8-4c45-a2b9-16fccd987166_360x202.gif 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!67ZX!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_lossy/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b9079a5-4bc8-4c45-a2b9-16fccd987166_360x202.gif 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Like Buffett himself says: </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>I never attempt to make money on the stock market. I buy on the assumption that they could close the market the next day and not reopen it for five years.</em>&#8221; </p></blockquote><p>It should be noted that Buffett has a <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/gurufocus/2016/06/01/what-warren-buffett-owns-in-his-personal-portfolio/">sizable private portfolio</a> that generates income for him outside of Berkshire.</p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20230715: Note that, with the recent exception of Activision Blizzard starting around 4Q2021, every stock in Berkshire&#8217;s own top ten holdings pays some kind of dividend (usually around a 3-4% yield). Do you want to do as Buffett says or do as he does?</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KnyH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0830b8ed-6752-4cac-8d33-45323a2c40d7_400x279.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KnyH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0830b8ed-6752-4cac-8d33-45323a2c40d7_400x279.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KnyH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0830b8ed-6752-4cac-8d33-45323a2c40d7_400x279.png 848w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KnyH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0830b8ed-6752-4cac-8d33-45323a2c40d7_400x279.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KnyH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0830b8ed-6752-4cac-8d33-45323a2c40d7_400x279.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KnyH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0830b8ed-6752-4cac-8d33-45323a2c40d7_400x279.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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fractional shares, though this would still put those shareholders desiring actual income from their investment at the mercy of Mr.Market&#8217;s sentiments at any given time &#8212;certainly a concern for FRMO which trades on the OTC Pink ATS tier.</em> **********</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>In 18th and 19th century England, someone&#8217;s wealth was not quoted in the value of their stocks, bonds and the equity value of their homes, as it is today, but on the income their capital earned</strong>. In the opening pages of Jane Austin&#8217;s Pride and Prejudice, a wealthy young man&#8217;s fortune is described as &#8220;four or five thousand a year.&#8221; That was the income produced by his capital.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Steve Bregman, <a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q4-2023-Commentary_FINAL.pdf">HK FY2024Q4 Commentary</a> ********** (<em>UPDATE 20240208</em>) **********</p></blockquote><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! Subscribe for free to receive new posts.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>TBH, from the letter, it&#8217;s unclear if Buffett means that these dividends attracted shareholders to price the stock upwards, if the dividends were a byproduct of success in the business, or if the reinvestment of the dividends were what increased the size of BRK&#8217;s Coke and Amex investments.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Interestingly, when I was doing a bit more reading to flesh out some ideas before writing this post, I found that there are a lot of references implying a bout of popularity of this strategy in India (in the Indian blog post <a href="https://www.smallcase.com/learn/what-is-coffee-can-investing/">here</a> for one example), spurred by the publication of &#8220;Coffee Can Investing: The Low Risk Road to Stupendous Wealth&#8221; by Saurabh Mukherjea (<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Coffee-Can-Investing-Stupendous-Wealth/dp/067009045X">February 1, 2018</a>), which is also referenced in <a href="https://www.ijsrp.org/research-paper-0922/ijsrp-p12943.pdf">this</a> Indian paper published in the International Journal of Scientific and Research Publications; the book was published just a few weeks before Chris Mayer&#8217;s &#8220;100-Baggers&#8221; (<a href="https://www.amazon.com/100-Baggers-Stocks-100-1/dp/1621291650/ref=sr_1_1">May 22, 2018</a>), which is where I myself first heard of this specific term. Of course, both books &#8212;and the research paper&#8212; give ultimate credit to investment manager Robert Kirby for coining the term.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This 63% number from MorningStar&#8217;s Michael Laske is widely cited, yet I could not find a primary source for this, TBH. </p><p><a href="https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/why-you-can-beat-the-stock-market-but-the-best-fund-managers-cant-2020-11-12">https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/why-you-can-beat-the-stock-market-but-the-best-fund-managers-cant-2020-11-12</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2023/02/buy-hold-is-dead-long-live-buy-hold/">https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2023/02/buy-hold-is-dead-long-live-buy-hold/</a></p><p>Much more info on this can also be found here:</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/working-paper-54.pdf">https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/working-paper-54.pdf</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2022/07/18/stock-market-short-termism-what-the-empirical-evidence-tells-policymakers/">https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2022/07/18/stock-market-short-termism-what-the-empirical-evidence-tells-policymakers/</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3171090">https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3171090</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2020/10/11/short-termism-revisited/">https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2020/10/11/short-termism-revisited/</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4087746">https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4087746</a></p></li></ul><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Charlie Munger actually mentioned this in the recent Berkshire 2023 annual meeting&#8230;</p><blockquote><p><em>An interesting fact that he [Graham] was sheepish about in his old age was that more than half of the investment return he did in his whole life came from one stock; one growth stock, GEICO, [a] Berkshire subsidiary. At the time he operated, there were a lot of sorta lousy companies that were too cheap; you could make a little money floating from one the other; the big money he made was [from] one growth stock. Buying one undervalued great company is a very good thing as Berkshire&#8217;s found out again and again.</em></p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Turkeys often stick their necks out too far and get their whole heads cut off to feed the (volatility) farmers.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Like Joel Greenblatt&#8217;s &#8220;You Can Be a Stock Market Genius&#8221;, it&#8217;s a good book with a somewhat embarrassing title.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In probabilities, P(X | Y) = &#8220;probability of X given Y is true or has happened.&#8221;</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Please do not cry &#8220;AI!&#8221; just because this proportionality symbol is not on any keyboard; I just googled the unicode representation and copy-pasted it here.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>In Immanuel Kant&#8217;s philosophy, noumena (singular: noumenon) are &#8220;things-in-themselves&#8221; that exist independently of human sensory perception and cognitive structures. Unlike phenomena (which are the objects as they <em>appear to us</em> in space and time) noumena are inherently unknowable by speculative reason as they are what exists beyond traditional human sensory ability that human senses can only then intake and interpret as constrained by the limits of our senses and minds.</p><p> </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://igyfoundation.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Full_Collection_Nomad_Letters_.pdf">https://igyfoundation.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Full_Collection_Nomad_Letters_.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The commentary also includes a brief section on investor John Templeton that has very similar themes as this buy-and-hold, emergent-strategy method discussed by Bregman which I was going to incorporate into a section in this post specifically dedicated to Templeton, but I think the HK commentary on his investing career here is sufficient for our purposes.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>So a portfolio set up this way would have initial position sizes of 2.85%. This is really more just a note for myself as it relates to something I mention at the end of this post.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="http://www.efficientfrontier.com/ef/900/15st.htm">http://www.efficientfrontier.com/ef/900/15st.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I don&#8217;t believe any re-balancing was done during this backtest.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-16" href="#footnote-anchor-16" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">16</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Interestingly, a portfolio that was annually adjusted to be equally weighted in all stocks that comprised the index &#8212;i.e. added stocks that made the index and removed stocks that fell out of the index&#8212; for that year outperformed the actual, marketcap weighted, index during the backtest, 24% to the S&amp;P 500 index&#8217;s 20% annualized return over the period.</p><p> </p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-17" href="#footnote-anchor-17" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">17</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/chriswmayer/status/1660003110754963456?s=20">https://twitter.com/chriswmayer/status/1660003110754963456?s=20</a>, </p><p><a href="https://us13.campaign-archive.com/?u=6dc62f307511d466ff78a94fe&amp;id=aa85a613a1">https://us13.campaign-archive.com/?u=6dc62f307511d466ff78a94fe&amp;id=aa85a613a1</a>,</p><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230521004037/https://us13.campaign-archive.com/?u=6dc62f307511d466ff78a94fe&amp;id=aa85a613a1">https://web.archive.org/web/20230521004037/https://us13.campaign-archive.com/?u=6dc62f307511d466ff78a94fe&amp;id=aa85a613a1</a></p><p>I could not find a primary source for this article on Verdad&#8217;s actual research library, <a href="https://verdadcap.com/weekly-research">https://verdadcap.com/weekly-research</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-18" href="#footnote-anchor-18" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">18</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://crsp.org/files/crsp-market-indexes-methodology-guide.pdf">https://crsp.org/files/crsp-market-indexes-methodology-guide.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>There&#8217;s also the interesting feature that the CRSP idea of &#8220;investability&#8221; includes a requirement for total floating shares (total shares outstanding less any restricted shares, which are defined as those held by insiders or stagnant shareholders including, but not limited to: board members, directors and executives; government holdings, employee share plans, and corporations not actively managing money) to be at least 87.5% of total shares outstanding, so very tightly owned public company would have to see insiders getting rid of their shares for it to be added to the index, yet this seems like a signal that would indicate that this is the precise time that investors might want to be wary of investing in the business. This kind of extremely-low-float situation isn&#8217;t something I see come up very often, but I just thought it was interesting.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!epRu!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbfee7c67-adc1-49fd-b57a-51f13a9ea86e_743x262.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!epRu!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbfee7c67-adc1-49fd-b57a-51f13a9ea86e_743x262.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!epRu!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbfee7c67-adc1-49fd-b57a-51f13a9ea86e_743x262.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!epRu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbfee7c67-adc1-49fd-b57a-51f13a9ea86e_743x262.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!epRu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbfee7c67-adc1-49fd-b57a-51f13a9ea86e_743x262.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!epRu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbfee7c67-adc1-49fd-b57a-51f13a9ea86e_743x262.png" width="743" height="262" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bfee7c67-adc1-49fd-b57a-51f13a9ea86e_743x262.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:262,&quot;width&quot;:743,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:74773,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!epRu!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbfee7c67-adc1-49fd-b57a-51f13a9ea86e_743x262.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!epRu!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbfee7c67-adc1-49fd-b57a-51f13a9ea86e_743x262.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!epRu!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbfee7c67-adc1-49fd-b57a-51f13a9ea86e_743x262.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!epRu!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbfee7c67-adc1-49fd-b57a-51f13a9ea86e_743x262.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(<em><a href="https://crsp.org/files/crsp-market-indexes-methodology-guide.pdf">https://crsp.org/files/crsp-market-indexes-methodology-guide.pdf</a></em>)</p><p>Furthermore, the Vanguard ETF itself uses the &#8220;weighted average price/earnings ratio of the stocks it holds&#8221; to determine the P/E value displayed on the ETF&#8217;s web page. I wonder if this is accounting for any of the component stocks that may have negative P/E ratios? That is, what is the reciprocal of the earnings yield of the ETF if calculated by summing all the index-weighted earnings of the composite stocks divided by the total market cap of the index? Would this give a higher or lower P/E?</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-20" href="#footnote-anchor-20" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">20</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>More on that here:</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;a8e843c5-2967-4fa1-bd1c-cc7b30bcbaa7&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&#8220;If I was running $1 million today, or $10 million for that matter, I&#8217;d be fully invested. Anyone who says that size does not hurt investment performance is selling. The highest rates of return I&#8217;ve ever achieved were in the 1950s. I killed the Dow. You ought to see the numbers. But I was investing peanuts then. 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Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-21" href="#footnote-anchor-21" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">21</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/taylor-swift-big-machine-records-fallout-everything-we-know/">https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/taylor-swift-big-machine-records-fallout-everything-we-know/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-22" href="#footnote-anchor-22" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">22</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Though there&#8217;s always poison pills, dual class share structures, and onerous shareholder agreements (as Murray Stahl and Eric Oliver are dealing in TPL with as I write this)</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-23" href="#footnote-anchor-23" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">23</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.contentandsystems.com/single-post/2017/03/25/venture-investing-and-the-8020-rule#">https://www.contentandsystems.com/single-post/2017/03/25/venture-investing-and-the-8020-rule#</a></p><p><a href="https://ttcp.com/the-80-20-rule-in-venture/">https://ttcp.com/the-80-20-rule-in-venture/</a></p><p><a href="https://strategyumwelt.com/frameworks/pareto-principle">https://strategyumwelt.com/frameworks/pareto-principle</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-24" href="#footnote-anchor-24" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">24</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/04/01/ozy-nifty-50-stocks/7156447/">https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/04/01/ozy-nifty-50-stocks/7156447/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/niftyfifty.asp">https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/niftyfifty.asp</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-25" href="#footnote-anchor-25" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">25</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.aaii.com/investor-update/article/Are-Any-of-the-Nifty-50-Stocks-Still-Nifty">https://www.aaii.com/investor-update/article/Are-Any-of-the-Nifty-50-Stocks-Still-Nifty</a></p><p><a href="https://bridgeway.com/perspectives/party-like-its-1972-what-can-the-nifty-fifty-teach-us-about-todays-market/">https://bridgeway.com/perspectives/party-like-its-1972-what-can-the-nifty-fifty-teach-us-about-todays-market/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/04/01/ozy-nifty-50-stocks/7156447/">https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/04/01/ozy-nifty-50-stocks/7156447/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-26" href="#footnote-anchor-26" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">26</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://sabercapitalmgt.com/portfolio-turnover-a-vastly-misunderstood-concept/">https://sabercapitalmgt.com/portfolio-turnover-a-vastly-misunderstood-concept/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-27" href="#footnote-anchor-27" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">27</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.fidelity.com/tax-information/tax-topics/qualified-dividends">https://www.fidelity.com/tax-information/tax-topics/qualified-dividends</a></p><p><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/qualifieddividend.asp">https://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/qualifieddividend.asp</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-28" href="#footnote-anchor-28" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">28</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>From the interview: </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>In the 1960s, in &#8216;A Modest Proposal,&#8217; I suggested that companies should be required to pay out 100% of their net income as cash dividends. If companies needed money to reinvest in their operations, then they would have to get investors to buy new offerings of stock. Investors would do that only if they were happy both with the dividends they&#8217;d received and the future prospects of the company. Markets as a whole know more than any individual or group of individuals. So the best way to allocate capital is to let the market do it, rather than the management of each company. The reinvestment of profits has to be submitted to the test of the marketplace if you want it to be done right.</em>&#8221;</p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-29" href="#footnote-anchor-29" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">29</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Well technically both Stahl and Bregman get a $1000 annual salary from the company for tax reasons, but that money is directly given back to the company. Even Stahl&#8217;s director fees for the various boards he sits on are given to the company.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-30" href="#footnote-anchor-30" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">30</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>See&#8230;</p><ul><li><p><a href="https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_capitalallocation.pdf">https://www.morganstanley.com/im/publication/insights/articles/article_capitalallocation.pdf</a> (pgs. 32, 35, and 54)</p></li><li><p><a href="https://wealthtrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Thoughts-on-Dividends-and-Buybacks_document-807107390.pdf">https://wealthtrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Thoughts-on-Dividends-and-Buybacks_document-807107390.pdf</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://research-doc.credit-suisse.com/docView?language=ENG&amp;format=PDF&amp;source_id=csplusresearchcp&amp;document_id=1032855431&amp;serialid=%2FOiUX4lbS5tsDoGc92XZdOTYpBoM485OjKzhF0TpZig%3D&amp;cspId=null">https://research-doc.credit-suisse.com/docView?language=ENG&amp;format=PDF&amp;source_id=csplusresearchcp&amp;document_id=1032855431&amp;serialid=%2FOiUX4lbS5tsDoGc92XZdOTYpBoM485OjKzhF0TpZig%3D&amp;cspId=null</a></p></li><li><p><a href="http://csinvesting.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/assessing-buybacks-from-all-angles_mauboussin.pdf">http://csinvesting.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/assessing-buybacks-from-all-angles_mauboussin.pdf</a></p></li></ul><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-31" href="#footnote-anchor-31" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">31</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>You can check my math here if I&#8217;m getting the problem setup wrong or anything else: <a href="https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=1569.63+*+R+%3E+0%2C+mod%28%281569.63+*+%281+%2B+0.0025%29%29+*+R+*+0.0025%2C+%281569.63+*+%281+%2B+0.0025%29%29%29+%3D+0">https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=1569.63+*+R+%3E+0%2C+mod%28%281569.63+*+%281+%2B+0.0025%29%29+*+R+*+0.0025%2C+%281569.63+*+%281+%2B+0.0025%29%29%29+%3D+0</a></p><p>You can also get the minimum number of shares by simply doing <em>Rm = 1/y</em>, where y is the hypothetical yield as a decimal number (I just intuit the logic of the way I initially wrote it more easily). </p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-32" href="#footnote-anchor-32" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">32</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>That is, iff you trust management &#8212;and the associated incentives and compensation plans&#8212; to not simply retain earnings for the purpose of enriching themselves (e.g. retaining <em>existing</em> earnings to increase company equity just so management can issue stock options to themselves at prices inflated by a book-value they simply had to sit around doing nothing in order to create, while simultaneously diluting outside shareholders). If you don&#8217;t, then you probably should not be investing with them in the fist place.</p></div></div>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[($RCG) The RENN Fund: A diversified and discounted permanent-capital nanocap with a lot of optionality (and a few private companies), being run for free by smart allocators.]]></title><description><![CDATA[They don't get paid until you get gains... well, barring more rights offerings.]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/rcg-the-renn-fund-a-discounted-stahl</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/rcg-the-renn-fund-a-discounted-stahl</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2023 00:45:40 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe50b2e-03f5-4f49-b374-faaf093fe55a_830x549.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;If I was running $1 million today, or $10 million for that matter, I&#8217;d be fully invested. Anyone who says that size does not hurt investment performance is selling. The highest rates of return I&#8217;ve ever achieved were in the 1950s. I killed the Dow. You ought to see the numbers. But I was investing peanuts then. It&#8217;s a huge structural advantage not to have a lot of money. I think I could make you 50% a year on $1 million. No, I know I could. I guarantee that.&#8221; &#8212;- Warren Buffett, 1999</em></p></blockquote><h1>Intro</h1><p>The RENN Fund ($RCG) is a discounted, permanent-capital, nanocap with a lot of optionality and several private company holdings (that you couldn&#8217;t get exposure to in an open-ended fund or ETF with greater liquidity requirements and fluctuating share counts) being run by a smart allocator with Munger&#8217;s &#8220;<em>fiduciary gene</em>&#8221; who doesn't get paid until you get significant gains from current market value. This uncorrelated close-ended fund is managed by an intelligent stock picker with a track record of beating the market and is currently buying shares on the open market every week. The fund&#8217;s management is forgoing any compensation until the stock price is around 80% higher than where it is right now.</p><p>(Of course, you&#8217;ll have to be able to stomach an extreme-impact key-man risk centered on someone who &#8212;by most government measures&#8212; is considered a senior citizen)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>. </p><p>I recently wrote a post regarding the investor pessimism that allowed Warren Buffett to accumulate more shares of his permanent capital vehicle, Berkshire Hathaway, at an extreme discount in the 1970s, while he was still relatively unknown to the investing public at large&#8230;</p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;cda64fc8-7210-4cc6-85ed-6fb921aec3e5&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;This is a continuation of a series of posts covering the various chapters of Murray Stahl&#8217;s 2011 hardcover-only book, &#8220;How They Did It&#8221;, for the purpose of making the content digitally available in some approximated form, mostly for my own future reference. For more background on what I&#8217;m even talking about, how this is series is formatted, and a comple&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;sm&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Notes on \&quot;How They Did It\&quot;: Warren 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Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>&#8230; A situation similar to the Buffett/Berkshire one existed (and still exists as I'm writing this) when asset management firm Horizon Kinetics (HK) took over management of the closed-ended (read as: permanent capital) RENN Fund around 2H2017<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> with HK founder Murray Stahl himself as the new CEO, while the fund was initially planning on going through with a 2H2016 liquidation plan by its original management team due a persistent and massive NAV discount and general decline in NAV since the fund's inception<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>; Stahl is the chief investment officer of HK&#8217;s billion dollar Paradigm Fund and has beaten the market quite handily since it&#8217;s inception...</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ve!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc3de666a-cdcc-421c-8bc2-bb3fc80f7ae4_499x284.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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nothing to sell. This functions as a diary of investment ideas/thoughts that I think are interesting and to track how my thoughts change over time.&quot;,&quot;logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;author_id&quot;:58613880,&quot;theme_var_background_pop&quot;:&quot;#FF0000&quot;,&quot;created_at&quot;:&quot;2021-11-18T06:13:02.008Z&quot;,&quot;rss_website_url&quot;:null,&quot;email_from_name&quot;:null,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;founding_plan_name&quot;:null,&quot;community_enabled&quot;:true,&quot;invite_only&quot;:false,&quot;payments_state&quot;:&quot;disabled&quot;}}],&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;utm_campaign&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="EmbeddedPostToDOM"><a class="embedded-post" native="true" href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/lessons-from-murray-stahl?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_campaign=post_embed&amp;utm_medium=web"><div class="embedded-post-header"><img class="embedded-post-publication-logo" src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Hwtq!,w_56,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png" loading="lazy"><span class="embedded-post-publication-name">Lemon Cakes Investing</span></div><div class="embedded-post-title-wrapper"><div class="embedded-post-title">Lessons from Murray Stahl</div></div><div class="embedded-post-body">After reading more of the $FRMO letters and other content by Stahl for my previous post&#8230; &#8230; I thought some of Stahl&#8217;s views were pretty interesting and fortunately he&#8217;s a rather prolific publisher of content &#8212;maintaining a &#8220;writing culture&#8221; at his asset management business, Horizon Kinetics (HK) (you could also think of it as a form of content marketing &#8230;</div><div class="embedded-post-cta-wrapper"><span class="embedded-post-cta">Read more</span></div><div class="embedded-post-meta">4 years ago &#183; 2 likes &#183; RV</div></a></div><p>However, the fund still traded at a large &#8212;though lesser than with the previous management&#8212; discount to NAV for a good while after Horizon Kinetics officially took over; this was despite the signal of confidence of HK agreeing to a backstop where it would purchase all unsubscribed shares from the rights offering<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> it had planned as part of the change in management and, furthermore, abstaining from any management fee until NAV exceeds $25MM, a 66% increase from the $15MM NAV the fund currently has<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a>. </p><p>Note that the management fee will only apply to asset <em>above</em> the $25MM floor (eg. when NAV reaches $26MM, HK will only charge a 1% fee on the additional $1MM over $25MM). To me it seems like Stahl is not planning on NAV remaining anywhere remotely close to where it is presently and they are certainly incentivized to get NAV much much higher than just that base watermark. </p><p>Currently, the fund trades at a 15% discount to NAV at the time of my writing this... so the base case upside could be around 80% (of course, put whatever time horizon and subsequent IRR on that as you see fit) &#8212;until then, Stahl and HK are working for free. </p><h1>Assets</h1><p>The fund also has 33% of assets in money market funds that &#8212;aside from capping the downside to around a still-painful-if-it-did-happen 66%&#8212; now provides significant interest income given the drastic interest rate hikes we've seen so far. So keep in mind that if you wanted an X percentage point position explicitly in equities for a portfolio, then you&#8217;d really have to put X/(1-0.33) pps into this position to compensate for the cash portion. </p><p>The fund also has significant capital loss carryforwards (CLCFs), not recorded on the balance sheet, from the previous management losses that amount to nearly the entire existing nominal NAV of the fund<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> (if you'd like, adding this to $15MM NAV brings the discount on the CEF to around 30%). These CLCFs are particularly useful since CEFs must distribute all of their income and capital gains to shareholders<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> (like with mutual funds)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> and the CLCFs can be used to reduce to the taxable portion of those distributions inasmuch as they can be used to offset any capital gains portion of those distributions:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5l-r!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F962ad58c-2657-4585-a2ff-ead865b50b81_1902x241.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5l-r!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F962ad58c-2657-4585-a2ff-ead865b50b81_1902x241.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5l-r!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F962ad58c-2657-4585-a2ff-ead865b50b81_1902x241.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5l-r!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F962ad58c-2657-4585-a2ff-ead865b50b81_1902x241.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5l-r!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F962ad58c-2657-4585-a2ff-ead865b50b81_1902x241.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5l-r!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F962ad58c-2657-4585-a2ff-ead865b50b81_1902x241.png" width="1238" height="156.45054945054946" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/962ad58c-2657-4585-a2ff-ead865b50b81_1902x241.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:184,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1238,&quot;bytes&quot;:66534,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5l-r!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F962ad58c-2657-4585-a2ff-ead865b50b81_1902x241.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5l-r!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F962ad58c-2657-4585-a2ff-ead865b50b81_1902x241.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5l-r!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F962ad58c-2657-4585-a2ff-ead865b50b81_1902x241.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5l-r!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F962ad58c-2657-4585-a2ff-ead865b50b81_1902x241.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Meanwhile, Stahl has been filing SEC Form 4s showing open market buys almost every week on the CEF for himself and his various HK/FRMO entities (and his spouse)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-10" href="#footnote-10" target="_self">10</a>. In total, Stahl has so far bought up 6.7% of all outstanding shares<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a> and &#8220;<em>[he] does not receive compensation from the Fund for either role except for his indirect benefit from Horizon Kinetics Asset Management LLC&#8217;s management fee</em>&#8221; nor do any of the other directors<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a>. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Sg69!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F69208657-b509-4f7b-965d-00fb3df803b2_1901x604.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iyfg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab2c3bd1-77fe-4c0e-84da-ce3739dba8b6_1155x524.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iyfg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab2c3bd1-77fe-4c0e-84da-ce3739dba8b6_1155x524.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iyfg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab2c3bd1-77fe-4c0e-84da-ce3739dba8b6_1155x524.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iyfg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab2c3bd1-77fe-4c0e-84da-ce3739dba8b6_1155x524.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.insidearbitrage.com/symbol-metrics/RCG/">https://www.insidearbitrage.com/symbol-metrics/RCG/</a>; that long trail of P-codes are from Murray Stahl</figcaption></figure></div><p><em>(From what I can tell, the buying appears to be correlated to the end of the initial COVID19 market shock and with the lead up to the Stahl-led conversion of the Texas Pacific Land Trust into a c-corp entity. Let me know if there is some other, more relevant, event I&#8217;m missing. I wonder, given the relatively small per-transaction volumes, is this just the investor equivalent of chumming the waters to net retail investors into the fund? Note that the amounts in which he&#8217;s buying are usually very small in terms of individual transactions, so he appears to be dollar cost averaging in a quite conservative, though consistent, way (I&#8217;m buying in a similar manner so long as the extent of the NAV discount persists).)</em></p><p>You will need to make up your own mind on what kind of premium/discount to NAV is justified, but simply taking HK's headlining $1.13B Paradigm Fund as a proxy for what we can expect for the CEF...</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ve!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc3de666a-cdcc-421c-8bc2-bb3fc80f7ae4_499x284.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ve!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc3de666a-cdcc-421c-8bc2-bb3fc80f7ae4_499x284.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ve!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc3de666a-cdcc-421c-8bc2-bb3fc80f7ae4_499x284.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ve!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc3de666a-cdcc-421c-8bc2-bb3fc80f7ae4_499x284.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ve!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc3de666a-cdcc-421c-8bc2-bb3fc80f7ae4_499x284.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ve!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc3de666a-cdcc-421c-8bc2-bb3fc80f7ae4_499x284.png" width="499" height="284" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c3de666a-cdcc-421c-8bc2-bb3fc80f7ae4_499x284.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:284,&quot;width&quot;:499,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:37499,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ve!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc3de666a-cdcc-421c-8bc2-bb3fc80f7ae4_499x284.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ve!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc3de666a-cdcc-421c-8bc2-bb3fc80f7ae4_499x284.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ve!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc3de666a-cdcc-421c-8bc2-bb3fc80f7ae4_499x284.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!z8Ve!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc3de666a-cdcc-421c-8bc2-bb3fc80f7ae4_499x284.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://kineticsfunds.com/funds/paradigm-fund/">https://kineticsfunds.com/funds/paradigm-fund/</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>&#8230; I&#8217;d say the fact that Stahl is consistently generating alpha warrants some non-zero premium rather than a discount &#8212;or at least warrants trading much much closer to NAV; clearly the market disagrees, though I haven't been really able to figure out why, full disclosure; I think that the magnitude of the discount represents quite overly pessimistic sentiment. </p><p>Looking at the performance of the Paradigm Fund since it&#8217;s inception in 2000<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a> vs the S&amp;P 500, we see an alpha of about 520bps, so I'd think that the CEF should &#8212;from a long-term POV, <em>assuming</em> that Stahl still has &#8216;the right stuff&#8217; to pull off similar alpha as with the Paradigm Fund in this new economic and interest rate environment&#8212; trade for a 520bps premium to NAV (or 270bps if we deduct the annual 150bps audit and (currently-non-existent) 100bps management fees). </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NYOF!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d70f5a0-dd0f-417f-b012-015d4190a54b_1045x350.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NYOF!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d70f5a0-dd0f-417f-b012-015d4190a54b_1045x350.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NYOF!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d70f5a0-dd0f-417f-b012-015d4190a54b_1045x350.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NYOF!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d70f5a0-dd0f-417f-b012-015d4190a54b_1045x350.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NYOF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d70f5a0-dd0f-417f-b012-015d4190a54b_1045x350.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NYOF!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7d70f5a0-dd0f-417f-b012-015d4190a54b_1045x350.png" width="1045" height="350" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7d70f5a0-dd0f-417f-b012-015d4190a54b_1045x350.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:350,&quot;width&quot;:1045,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:88008,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://cefdata.com/funds/rcg/">https://cefdata.com/funds/rcg/</a>; 2H2016) RCG management submits proposal of liquidation to shareholders, 2H2017) RCG management submits proposal for new investment advisory agreement with Horizon Asset Management LLC.</figcaption></figure></div><p>On the subject of fees, this was the fund&#8217;s income and expenses in the December 31, 2022 annual shareholder report<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-14" href="#footnote-14" target="_self">14</a>:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A8HH!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7f74923-1dd5-4c29-84a8-685eb4e42558_722x374.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A8HH!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7f74923-1dd5-4c29-84a8-685eb4e42558_722x374.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!A8HH!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff7f74923-1dd5-4c29-84a8-685eb4e42558_722x374.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>At the time, they had 33% of assets (or $5MM) in money market funds<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-15" href="#footnote-15" target="_self">15</a> and rates started the year at around 1.5% and were steadily rising all throughout 2022<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-16" href="#footnote-16" target="_self">16</a>. As I write this, the money market rate is now around 4.5%, so the fund's interest income should be closer to around 3x this amount ($5MM*0.045 = $225K) vs the last reported value, going forward. Just looking at the money market investment and TPL, iff interest rates and TPL's dividend rate<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-17" href="#footnote-17" target="_self">17</a> remain static from here, the annual income for the fund for 2023 should be closer to around...</p><p>($5MM &#215; 0.045/yr) + (1908 shares &#215; $13/yr) = $249804.00</p><p>&#8230; This should cover most of the fund&#8217;s annual expenses going forward that total to around $240K and are largely fixed costs &#8212;with anything extra being distributable to shareholders or available for reinvestment.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-xbT!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc65e25dd-d21e-46e5-9504-937518d97622_1577x372.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-xbT!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc65e25dd-d21e-46e5-9504-937518d97622_1577x372.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-xbT!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc65e25dd-d21e-46e5-9504-937518d97622_1577x372.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-xbT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc65e25dd-d21e-46e5-9504-937518d97622_1577x372.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-xbT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc65e25dd-d21e-46e5-9504-937518d97622_1577x372.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-xbT!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc65e25dd-d21e-46e5-9504-937518d97622_1577x372.png" width="996" height="234.6346153846154" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c65e25dd-d21e-46e5-9504-937518d97622_1577x372.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:343,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:996,&quot;bytes&quot;:33748,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-xbT!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc65e25dd-d21e-46e5-9504-937518d97622_1577x372.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-xbT!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc65e25dd-d21e-46e5-9504-937518d97622_1577x372.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-xbT!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc65e25dd-d21e-46e5-9504-937518d97622_1577x372.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-xbT!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc65e25dd-d21e-46e5-9504-937518d97622_1577x372.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The fund also includes a exposure to Stahl's private equity investments in Big League Advance LLC<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-18" href="#footnote-18" target="_self">18</a>, Diamond Standard Inc<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-19" href="#footnote-19" target="_self">19</a>, and Miami International Holdings Inc<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-20" href="#footnote-20" target="_self">20</a> that you wouldn&#8217;t have access to by simply following the funds holdings reports every six months and copying their holdings on your own. </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>A recurring theme in our answers to these questions will be that an asset manager should want to be an asset manager and investor, not an asset gatherer. You don&#8217;t want to invest money just for the sake of charging people a fee on it, and you don&#8217;t want to invest money in businesses unless you foresee a suitable rate of return in relation to the risk. It&#8217;s not easy to do that in the context of a mutual fund or other vehicle in which investor funds flow in and out whenever they like. In that regard, you might be interested to note Horizon Kinetics is involved in making a bid for a closed-end fund called the RENN Fund.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2017_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">Murray Stahl</a></p></blockquote><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>The RENN Fund is a closed-end fund, and that&#8217;s one of the reasons we established control. <strong>It&#8217;s an ideal structure for investing in a private company like Diamond Standard, because we don&#8217;t need to maintain daily liquidity for redemptions</strong>, the way a mutual fund or ETF does. [&#8230;] If it works, think about the RENN Fund, being a very small fund, but <strong>with exposure to an asset class nobody else has&#8212;if it works, it&#8217;s going to be more than meaningful to the RENN Fund</strong>. It&#8217;s going to be a very, very big deal.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">Murray Stahl</a></p></blockquote><p>These securities are illiquid and appear to be accounted for at their book value (rather than any kind of DCF or other method that would take any kind of longterm profit-generating potential into account)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-21" href="#footnote-21" target="_self">21</a>. The weighted average marketcap of the fund&#8217;s investments is around $300MM (when setting the marketcap of the money market funds and private equity holdings to $0). The fund&#8217;s top 10 holdings are shown below and can give you a greater sense of what they are investing in:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_DeB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcc439f60-c92b-4137-967f-258a5ef337dd_1018x334.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_DeB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcc439f60-c92b-4137-967f-258a5ef337dd_1018x334.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_DeB!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcc439f60-c92b-4137-967f-258a5ef337dd_1018x334.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_DeB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcc439f60-c92b-4137-967f-258a5ef337dd_1018x334.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_DeB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcc439f60-c92b-4137-967f-258a5ef337dd_1018x334.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_DeB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcc439f60-c92b-4137-967f-258a5ef337dd_1018x334.png" width="1018" height="334" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/cc439f60-c92b-4137-967f-258a5ef337dd_1018x334.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:334,&quot;width&quot;:1018,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:72839,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_DeB!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcc439f60-c92b-4137-967f-258a5ef337dd_1018x334.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_DeB!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcc439f60-c92b-4137-967f-258a5ef337dd_1018x334.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_DeB!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcc439f60-c92b-4137-967f-258a5ef337dd_1018x334.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_DeB!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcc439f60-c92b-4137-967f-258a5ef337dd_1018x334.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://cefdata.com/funds/rcg/">https://cefdata.com/funds/rcg/</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>(The most recent annual report mentions investments in &#8220;<em>grantor and passive foreign investment companies (PFICs).</em>&#8221; I was concerned about any pass-through implications from the CEF to shareholders re. PFIC reporting responsibilities, but emailing HK about this issue with the fund they say that: &#8220;<em>All tax adjustments (and filings) for securities held by the fund (PFIC, REIT, etc.) are picked up at the fund level.  Shareholders only receive a 1099 for the gains, if any, they receive.</em>&#8221;)</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em><strong>Just understand that, generally speaking, we&#8217;re buying hard assets. If you look at what&#8217;s in the RENN Fund&#8212;it&#8217;s not entirely true but it&#8217;s largely true&#8212; they&#8217;re primarily hard</strong> <strong>assets. Hard assets have a specific meaning for us. It means a company can benefit from an increase in revenue without a concomitant requirement for a capital expenditure</strong>. If you have a business that&#8217;s growing, usually you need to hire people, usually you need to buy plant and equipment. When your plant and equipment wears out, you have to replace it. It&#8217;s true of almost every business. Sometimes the people who run those businesses make incredibly astute judgments, and sometimes they&#8217;re not so astute, because we&#8217;re all human beings and we&#8217;re all fallible. The hard asset is a genre of company where you don&#8217;t have to make that decision. It&#8217;s not 100% true, but it&#8217;s almost entirely true; we can make believe it&#8217;s entirely true despite a bit of exaggeration: cash flow really belongs to the shareholders. That makes a unique genre of company. <strong>In the case of hard assets, because of the optionality and the fact that you get the cash flow as a shareholder, you should always be buying them&#8212;unless the asset trades at some excessively elevated valuation</strong>.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2021_Q2_FRMO_Transcript_Followup.pdf">Murray Stahl</a></p></blockquote><p>Stahl is patient (perhaps to a fault, possibly owing to the fact that he&#8217;s already rich (and he&#8217;s stated in the past that he didn&#8217;t start his, now billion-dollar, asset management business with the intention of getting extremely wealthy in the first place)) and I&#8217;m comfortable sitting on these start-ups alongside him for the chance to catch a significant wave from out of left field.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>When these new businesses come in, there are huge advantages for the early birds. And when you&#8217;re an early bird, there&#8217;s a model that I call &#8220;surfing&#8221; &#8211; when a surfer gets up and catches the wave and just stays there, he can go a long, long time. But if he gets off the wave, he becomes mired in shallows.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- Charlie Munger, <a href="https://janav.wordpress.com/2013/07/08/surfing-a-wave/">https://janav.wordpress.com/2013/07/08/surfing-a-wave/</a></p></blockquote><p>I think this makes for a pretty good level of diversification in the portfolio across the spectrum of possible economic paradigms.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!32RV!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7fe50b2e-03f5-4f49-b374-faaf093fe55a_830x549.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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Also notice that RCG owns their BTC interest through a ~1% stake in GBTC and, at the time of my writing this, GBTC trades at a ~40% discount to NAV, so their actual claim to BTCs is about (1/(1-0.40)-1=)67% larger than their mark-to-market carrying value represented by the GBTC stake)</em>.</p><p>The fund's trading price also has a low correlation to the broader market and is also &#8212;advantageously or disadvantageously, depending on how you look at it&#8212; very small at the moment, nanocap in fact, with just $15MM NAV. I'd be a much happier buyer if the discount grew to cover the stake in either TPL &#8212;a stock which seems to be a mandatory standard in any vehicle Stahl or HK set up<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-22" href="#footnote-22" target="_self">22</a>&#8212; or Apyx Medical<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-23" href="#footnote-23" target="_self">23</a>, the latter of which was a scandal-fraught holdover from the previous management and I don't understand why the fund still holds it today. </p><p>You could also take a simple method of thinking of the CEF discount in terms of years-of-fee-expenses, in which case the current discount gives you a rebate of (12/1.5=)8yrs of fees as you wait for Stahl to execute on getting the fund to $25MM (and as I mentioned, this admin fee should be much smaller, if not non-existent, going forward).</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://cefdata.com/funds/rcg/">https://cefdata.com/funds/rcg/</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>My not liking Apyx &#8212;which is a holdover position (previously Bovie Medical) the fund has retained from before Stahl and HK took over management&#8212; is mainly for the CEO&#8217;s questionable history were he (Charlie Goodwin) was directly named in a medical remuneration scandal at his previous company, Olympus (ticker: OLYMY), where he was VP of Sales for the Gyrus segment at the time, where the issues were centered around (see the footnote)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-24" href="#footnote-24" target="_self">24</a> <a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-25" href="#footnote-25" target="_self">25</a>. Did he really have knowledge of the issues? Seems like it. He was VP of Sales for the Gyrus segment and the scheme was directly related to selling medical equipment; the complaint accuses that Gyrus&#8217; fraudulent practices after the <a href="https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/olympus-corporation-to-boost-surgery-with-1-9-billion-gyrus-group-plc-deal-/#:~:text=Olympus%20aims%20to%20draw%20on,of%20energy%2Dbased%20technology%20equipment.&amp;text=Olympus%20UK%20Acquisitions%20Limited%2C%20a,the%20ordinary%20shares%20of%20Gyrus.">acquisition</a><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-26" href="#footnote-26" target="_self">26</a> by Olympus were &#8220;<em>firmly entrenched in the Gyrus business model prior to the Olympus acquisition, and continued unabated following the acquisition with the full knowledge and endorsement by Olympus executive management.</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-27" href="#footnote-27" target="_self">27</a> </p><p>So now with Goodwin heading Apyx, are patients really getting the best treatment option for their situation or is there another scandal / whistle-blower situation waiting for patients and APYX (and RCG) shareholders down the road? It's not as if the company looks great beyond this integrity issue either. The company has negative CFFO &#8212;though little debt&#8212; and has been getting by on cash from the sale of its &#8220;Core&#8221; electrosurgical and cauteries business in late 2H2018<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-28" href="#footnote-28" target="_self">28</a> that netted the company around $69MM (which it's been running through ever since and looks to be enough to cover one more year of APYX's short-term liabilities + average capex before they're on their own again). My only bit of comfort on this is that the existing NAV discount covers the exposure of the fund's APYX stake. </p><p>(You can read an interesting &#8212;sponsored&#8212; study on Apyx&#8217;s helium plasma technology, <a href="https://doi.org/10.1093/asjof/ojac081">here</a>).</p><p>********** <em>Inline update 20230908: I asked Stahl about APYX at the 2023 FRMO Corp annual shareholders&#8217; meeting (<a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a>). What this prompted him to mention was that, as part of the agreement for Horizon Kinetics to take over management of the RENN Fund, they had to agree not to sell APYX without approval of the previous management; I suspect he wasn&#8217;t aware of Goodwin&#8217;s past. Bottom line seems to be that they are stuck with this position, come what may. The fund&#8217;s discount to NAV makes a lot more sense to me in this light, to be honest. I think I&#8217;m going to reserve my dollar cost averaging into the fund at above the 20% discount mark &#8212;or whatever APYX&#8217;s percentage of the fund happens to be at the time&#8212; going forward.</em> <em>I&#8217;d like to know:</em> <em>Is that agreement expected to last indefinitely? For example, if previous management&#8217;s stake (Russell Cleveland&#8217;s) in the fund drops below a certain percentage, should they still have this kind of control over such a larger portion of the fund's capital? At what point does fund management have an overriding&nbsp;fiduciary&nbsp;duty to deal with the position based solely on it's fundamentals on behalf of other minority shareholders?</em> **********</p><p>I have also been following the FitLife turnaround story and generally like the numbers I see (growing ROIC and FCF/sh with a low float); I initial ran into FitLife while trying to screen for OTC-specific companies exhibiting characteristics of 100-bagger stocks as described in Chris Mayer&#8217;s book of the same name &#8212;FitLife, while not a software business, also exhibits many of the financial characteristics that meet the requirements for companies of interest according to famed Constellation Software&#8217;s criteria for VMS acquisitions<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-29" href="#footnote-29" target="_self">29</a>. In any case, I&#8217;m fine to get exposure to the stock through the fund; it also has a bit of a call option on mass skepticism of the establishment medical industry (as the fallout of 2020 may have a greater critical mass of people coming to lose trust in government/MSM-backed &#8220;experts&#8221;).<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-30" href="#footnote-30" target="_self">30</a> A nice summation of FitLife&#8217;s turnaround so far can be found on the tweet thread <a href="https://twitter.com/ToffCap/status/1625902958239006720?s=20">here</a>.</p><p>Beyond this, I don&#8217;t have any real opinion, bullish or bearish, regarding the remaining individual holdings one way or another. Though I will note that there seems to be some controversy<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-31" href="#footnote-31" target="_self">31</a> around Big League Advance&#8217;s business model, but I don&#8217;t really get it; BLA is not too different from a music label or payday lender except, in the case of BLA, they don&#8217;t get paid unless the &#8220;musician&#8221; becomes a star or the &#8220;borrower&#8221; gets paid &#8212;I don&#8217;t see the issue here. Furthermore, these deals are not being forced onto players so far as I can tell and simply exist as new options where there previously was none.</p><p>********** <em>Inline update 20230620: FitLife has issued a <a href="https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2023/06/20/2690914/0/en/FitLife-Brands-Announces-Application-for-Listing-of-its-Common-Stock-on-the-Nasdaq-Capital-Market.html">press release</a> today announcing that that they have submitted an application for the listing of its common stock on the Nasdaq Capital Market. At this same time, along with Murray Stahl&#8217;s usual buying of the CEF shares, SEC Form 4s have dropped showing that Director <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000195837423000001/xslF345X04/primary_doc.xml">Doug Cohen</a>, fund Treasurer and HK COO <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000186527523000001/xslF345X04/primary_doc.xml">Alun Williams</a>, and fund VP and HK General Counsel <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000152503923000003/xslF345X04/primary_doc.xml">Jay Kesslen</a> have also recently added to their shares; I believe this to be a good signal amidst the noise of the Stahl&#8217;s regular buying here. </em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.insidearbitrage.com/symbol-metrics/RCG/">https://www.insidearbitrage.com/symbol-metrics/RCG/</a></figcaption></figure></div><p><em>At the same time, the fund&#8217;s discount to NAV has increased from the 15%, that existed when I initially wrote this post, to around 25%, nearly covering the entirety of the fund&#8217;s TPL or money market position.</em> ********** </p><p><strong>The way I see things is the incentives are aligned, Stahl is smarter than me (he certainly has more (and more access to) info on TPL that any other investor being a member of the company board and HK owning around 20% of the company), I&#8217;m getting that intellectual capital for free, and I actually really like that the fund has a large money market position</strong>; this last point may not be to everyone&#8217;s taste, but given the rate shocks of 2022 and the risk of the Fed going full Volcker on inflation and long-duration assets, it&#8217;s an opportunity cost I&#8217;m willing to take &#8212;in any case, I&#8217;m comfortable letting Stahl manage my cash for free as it earns interest at rates not seen in 20 years. </p><p>Stahl also runs a public investment vehicle outside of the Horizon Kinetics complex, FRMO Corp, which I've written about here: </p><div class="digest-post-embed" data-attrs="{&quot;nodeId&quot;:&quot;505337dd-dd7e-44a6-a98a-340ebbd026c0&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;Table of Contents Quick Pitch Ready for what the indexes aren&#8217;t Management Asset breakdown Upcoming events Risks Conclusion Quick Pitch \&quot;One reason some people no longer resist the idea of inflation is because they&#8217;re hearing about it in the news. Others have begun to notice it in their daily li&#8230;&quot;,&quot;cta&quot;:null,&quot;showBylines&quot;:true,&quot;size&quot;:&quot;lg&quot;,&quot;isEditorNode&quot;:true,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;($FRMO) FRMO Corp: A uniquely managed OTC jockey-stock hedged for inflation and with incoming catalysts&quot;,&quot;publishedBylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;is_guest&quot;:false,&quot;bestseller_tier&quot;:null}],&quot;post_date&quot;:&quot;2021-11-19T02:32:18.153Z&quot;,&quot;cover_image&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/h_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc9392cb9-3c41-4777-9386-36f7c2a318e5_625x406.jpeg&quot;,&quot;cover_image_alt&quot;:null,&quot;canonical_url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/frmo-an-underfollowed-jockey-based&quot;,&quot;section_name&quot;:null,&quot;video_upload_id&quot;:null,&quot;id&quot;:44213980,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;newsletter&quot;,&quot;reaction_count&quot;:0,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;publication_id&quot;:null,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;youtube_url&quot;:null,&quot;show_links&quot;:null,&quot;feed_url&quot;:null}"></div><p>FRMO comprises around 20% of Stahl&#8217;s net wealth, while my understanding is that the rest is managed within HK. One thing I like about RCG (vs FRMO) is the way these different vehicles will be treated in the long-run; while RCG is a CEF within the HK complex and would ostensibly remain managed by HK once Stahl is no longer around &#8212;hopefully that scenario is still a long while away and that Bregman, Doyle, and the culture put in place along the rest of the firm will still produce interesting ideas&#8212; Stahl has mentioned that FRMO is planned to be passed on or merged with some other asset manager they have confidence in to run the show their own way; in the <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2023_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">Q2FY2023</a> transcripts I asked about FRMO succession plans and Stahl had this to say: </p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Why don&#8217;t we want to make them employees of Horizon? Because we want to see what they would do unconstrained by us. If they're our employees, whether we give them total freedom or not, they're going to be operating under our constraints even if only implicitly. [&#8230;] They've got to be running their own show. So, maybe a way to do it is, they're someone already running their own show, doing whatever they're doing. Maybe, when the time comes, we would merge FRMO with whatever their enterprise is, and now they're going to run the show. And they'd be unconstrained by us, other than the fact that we respect what they're doing, but they're different people, and maybe that's the way it should be. So that's the way I see it happening.&#8221; </em></p></blockquote><p>If the incentives at FRMO weren't so aligned with shareholders (ie. Stahl and Bregman simply own a majority of the common stock along with shareholders, taking no cash compensation or options), I would be much more concerned than I am presently; I don&#8217;t think Stahl is planning to screw FRMO shareholders in the end (himself being one of the largest ones). </p><p>As it stands, FRMO's long-term destination may be very different than RCG's and I think owning both is a good way to diversify end-points (while remaining in permanent capital vehicles, vs, say, investing in some HK mutual fund as opposed to RCG) while still benefiting from Stahl's intriguing investment ideas.</p><h1>Risks:</h1><ul><li><p>Stahl&#8217;s insider buying frequency, yet cumulatively amounting to a rather small portion of his total net wealth, could simply be intended as a lure to bring more AUM for the fund; personally, I doubt it and think Stahl wouldn&#8217;t bother doing this; I think he&#8217;s a manager that has, as Charlie Munger puts it, the &#8220;fiduciary gene&#8221;. </p></li><li><p>Other than the strong insider buying signal produced by Stahl&#8217;s buying, the fund screens rather poorly as it is illiquid, has a spotty longterm track record of income generation, ROA, and TBV growth (iff your screening window is weighing in the periods before Stahl took over management of the fund and a boringly average CAGR if looking at the time since HK&#8217;s takeover), and is quite concentrated in it&#8217;s positions. For my part, I find these to not be an issue (as neither long-term risks nor forward-looking risks) and chalks these up as more of the &#8220;why is this cheap?&#8221; side of things rather than the &#8220;risks&#8221; side.</p></li><li><p>The main macroeconomic view of the fund is &#8220;<em>a shift from declining interest rates and minimal reported inflation to static or <strong>slightly rising rates and inflation well above trend.</strong></em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-32" href="#footnote-32" target="_self">32</a> (I think it's also rather impressive to note that this statement was made in mid-2020, before the drastic rate hikes of 2022). So, if you don&#8217;t agree with that view &#8212;or don&#8217;t want that probability hedged by Murray Stahl&#8212; then you wouldn&#8217;t want to invest in the fund; however, I can't help but think of the Steve Jobs quote (which also reminds me a lot of Andrew Carnegie's) that &#8220;[i]<em>t doesn&#8217;t make sense to hire smart people and then tell them what to do; we hire smart people so they can tell us what to do.</em>&#8221; I could also understand how the fact that HK is basing investments on any particular top-down, macro view at all<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-33" href="#footnote-33" target="_self">33</a> could be unattractive to any investors that have read Seth Klarman&#8217;s &#8220;Margin of Safety&#8221;; &#8220;<em>By way of example, a top-down investor must be correct on the big picture (e.g., are we entering an unprecedented era of world peace and stability?), correct in drawing conclusions from that (e.g., is German reunification bullish or bearish for German interest rates and the value of the deutsche mark), correct in applying those conclusions to attractive areas of investment (e.g., buy German bonds, buy the stocks of U.S. companies with multinational presence), correct in the specific securities purchased (e.g., buy the ten-year German government bond, buy Coca-Cola), and, finally, be early in buying these securities. The top-down investor thus faces the daunting task of predicting the unpredictable more accurately and faster than thousands of other bright people, all of them trying to do the same thing.</em>&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Stahl is 69 years old. While the guy is very wealthy and thus likely has access to very great healthcare, it&#8217;s something to sweat over. In any case, HK co-founder Steve Bregman is five years younger and gives the fund a bit a bench to lean on in case anything unfortunate should happen with Stahl. IDK for sure how impactful it would really even be if Stahl were no longer at the fund, as they could just resume its liquidation plans and close the discount spread that way &#8212;so you&#8217;d still have some upside. This statement from Stahl in a 2018 &#8220;<em>Value Investor Insight</em>&#8221; interview also gives me a bit of solace that he&#8217;s certainly not going anywhere if he has any say in it: &#8220;<em>From the first day I did this until today, 99% of the time I enjoy it. I like the intellectual challenge. I like writing the research. As with any job, there are certain days I don&#8217;t like it that much, but happily those days are few and far between. As long as I&#8217;m still welcome and physically able, I contemplate doing what I&#8217;m doing until they carry me out one day.</em>&#8221; Furthermore, this may simply be an unavoidable trade-off when attempting to balance longevity and wisdom when running an organization. I am reminded of Charlie Munger&#8217;s comments in the &#8220;<em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB5krSvFAPY">Becoming Warren Buffett</a></em>&#8221; documentary on running an HQ: &#8220;<em>The ideal way to run a headquarters is to have one man, preferably over 80, sitting in an office by himself. Anything else is pure frippery.</em>&#8221; &#8212;so, in ten years time, maybe the RENN Fund will be in an even better management position with Stahl (still) at the helm.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ADb1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a541230-01cf-4d2f-83cc-9972c8f2f78c_510x528.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ADb1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a541230-01cf-4d2f-83cc-9972c8f2f78c_510x528.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ADb1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a541230-01cf-4d2f-83cc-9972c8f2f78c_510x528.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ADb1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a541230-01cf-4d2f-83cc-9972c8f2f78c_510x528.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ADb1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a541230-01cf-4d2f-83cc-9972c8f2f78c_510x528.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ADb1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a541230-01cf-4d2f-83cc-9972c8f2f78c_510x528.png" width="510" height="528" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1a541230-01cf-4d2f-83cc-9972c8f2f78c_510x528.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:528,&quot;width&quot;:510,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:104943,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ADb1!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a541230-01cf-4d2f-83cc-9972c8f2f78c_510x528.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ADb1!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a541230-01cf-4d2f-83cc-9972c8f2f78c_510x528.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ADb1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a541230-01cf-4d2f-83cc-9972c8f2f78c_510x528.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ADb1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1a541230-01cf-4d2f-83cc-9972c8f2f78c_510x528.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p><em>********** Inline update 20231207: I found this article from Mutual Fund Observer, where they look at the trailing results of various funds following the departure of such funds&#8217; famous founding managers, to be particularly relevant to this concern: <a href="https://www.mutualfundobserver.com/2023/08/the-unfortunate-manager-the-ill-timed-bus-and-you/">https://www.mutualfundobserver.com/2023/08/the-unfortunate-manager-the-ill-timed-bus-and-you/</a>. &#8220;[W]e looked at the performance of a handful of famous eponymous funds following their founders&#8217; departure, whether through retirement, death, or dismissal. In pretty much all cases, funds flourished &#8211; at least in terms of continuing their traditional risk-adjusted performance &#8211; in the years immediately following their founders&#8217; departure. [&#8230;] In almost all instances, funds perform credibly in the years (two to seven, in our survey) following the departure of their founding manager. They might or might not reach the heights of excellence seen under The Great Man&#8217;s guidance, but they do not betray their shareholders.&#8221; In any case, I think that the NAV discount would be a hedge in such a scenario as it provides another way to win even if there were some personnel issue that affected HK&#8217;s ability to continue to manage the fund in the sense that the fund could be liquidated &#8212;as it was originally going to do before HK took over management&#8212; at a profit to shareholders</em>. **********</p><ul><li><p>As I&#8217;ve already complained in the past regarding FRMO as well, Stahl did not deploy much of the large cash balance during the massive market drawdown around march of 2020<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-34" href="#footnote-34" target="_self">34</a>; though he did begin buying RCG shares for himself / HK entities around that time, it appears more related to TPL events than any overall market pessimism. My point being, if the market shocks caused by the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 where not enough to get Stahl to use significant portions of their cash balance &#8212;when many, certainly in the MSM, thought that the world was literally ending&#8212; then what is? I&#8217;m more OK with this state of affairs now that interest rates are no longer zero-bound and are rising, but it&#8217;s something to consider. What is Horizon Kinetics waiting for? Based on comments by Steve Bregman in the <a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q4-2022-Commentary_FINAL.pdf">4Q2022 HK Commentary</a> (plus the fact that the general HK view seems to be that the last four decades of the economy have been a historical fluke), I&#8217;m suspecting it could be for this &#128071; to normalize &#8212;so some monk-like patience (and plenty of good diet and exercise on Stahl&#8217;s part) may be required: </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QYcl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dbc3c80-0016-42ed-899a-45394883c164_1200x1000.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QYcl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5dbc3c80-0016-42ed-899a-45394883c164_1200x1000.png" width="1200" height="1000" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5dbc3c80-0016-42ed-899a-45394883c164_1200x1000.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:1000,&quot;width&quot;:1200,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:81317,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.longtermtrends.net/market-cap-to-gdp-the-buffett-indicator/; You can alternatively play around with the data here: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=ZvPP">https://www.longtermtrends.net/market-cap-to-gdp-the-buffett-indicator/</a>; You can alternatively play around with the data here: <a href="https://www.longtermtrends.net/market-cap-to-gdp-the-buffett-indicator/; You can alternatively play around with the data here: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=ZvPP">https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=ZvPP</a> </figcaption></figure></div><p>HK&#8217;s Bregman did have this to say in <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210622205351/https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Horizon-Kinetics_Update_FINAL_03202020-1.pdf">a letter</a> drafted during the market panic of March 2020: &#8220;<em>This may prove to be an excellent time to purchase equities, but based on valuations, compounding off the prior index highs will be challenging, and likely modest in real terms, after inflation.</em>&#8221; Though I&#8217;d also note that &#8212;aside from the fact that that statement does not preclude at all the possibility of opportunities in individual stocks (vs indexes)&#8212; mid/smallcap stocks are currently trading around the cheapest valuations they&#8217;ve been at since the 2020 March COVID shock and the 2008 GCF which seems like the perfect kind of opportunity set for this small fund &#8212;of course, as HK has mentioned in <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20201109034859/http://horizonkinetics.com/wp-content/uploads/Q2-2017-Commentary_APPROVED_FINAL.pdf">previous commentaries</a>, the fact that aggregate P/E ratios for most indexes are based on the harmonic mean<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-35" href="#footnote-35" target="_self">35</a> and thus provides greater sensitivity to lower P/E samples in a set and create the perception of an index being cheaper than it really would be if we simply added the GAAP earnings of the companies divided by the total market cap (on a index percentage basis) to get a view of the total earnings yield earned by the index.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gLn-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c4c01a-453a-43f1-a88b-da45cbbd68fa_972x625.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gLn-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c4c01a-453a-43f1-a88b-da45cbbd68fa_972x625.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gLn-!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c4c01a-453a-43f1-a88b-da45cbbd68fa_972x625.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gLn-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c4c01a-453a-43f1-a88b-da45cbbd68fa_972x625.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gLn-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c4c01a-453a-43f1-a88b-da45cbbd68fa_972x625.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gLn-!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F54c4c01a-453a-43f1-a88b-da45cbbd68fa_972x625.png" width="972" height="625" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/54c4c01a-453a-43f1-a88b-da45cbbd68fa_972x625.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:625,&quot;width&quot;:972,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:144753,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" 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class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.morningstar.com/articles/1128280/small-cap-stocks-are-really-cheap">https://www.morningstar.com/articles/1128280/small-cap-stocks-are-really-cheap</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>A bit more color on the fund&#8217;s disinclination to buy anything during the 2020 crash can be found in the FRMO transcript <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2020_Q3_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">here</a>, where Questioner 8 directly asks Stahl about this.</p></li><li><p>Concentrated positions in TPL (and to a lesser extent APYX and FTLF). Honestly, the thing I&#8217;m most concerned about is APYX and their CEO's involvement in the aforementioned medical remuneration scandal at his previous company; asking management about this issue, they simply said they &#8216;<em>continue to view APYX and being undervalued</em>&#8217;; well, at least they are (now?) aware of the situation. I could totally be on board with a position relating to plastic surgery, but I don&#8217;t get why they have such a large position in this company in particular; perhaps <em>I&#8217;m</em> the one missing something here. In any case, the present discount could be seen as netting out the APYX position &#8212;with a few more discounted pps to spare&#8212; so that&#8217;s another way of looking at it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_DeB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcc439f60-c92b-4137-967f-258a5ef337dd_1018x334.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_DeB!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcc439f60-c92b-4137-967f-258a5ef337dd_1018x334.png 424w, 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x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://cefdata.com/funds/rcg/">https://cefdata.com/funds/rcg/</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>One small piece of consolation is that Goodwin does own 4% of APYX's shares outstanding as of the 2022 proxy<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-36" href="#footnote-36" target="_self">36</a>, which at current market prices amounts to around 3x his annual cash compensation.</p></li><li><p>The fund would have to grow to a much much higher NAV in order for the fees to really mean anything to Stahl and HK. Thus, they could let the fund languish and not be too hurt by things; heads they win, tails they don&#8217;t lose. I think this concern is allayed somewhat by the fact that Stahl has been buying stock on the open market, himself &#8212;though, even in this case, I&#8217;m not sure that the total stake is a meaningful amount to Stahl (around $700K). To put this in perspective, Stahl has stated in the past that FRMO (with a current market cap of $350MM), which he owns ~16% of, makes up ~20% of his total net wealth<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-37" href="#footnote-37" target="_self">37</a>, so he&#8217;s worth at least ($350MM*0.16*(1/0.20)=)$280MM, so the total direct and indirect ownership makes up just 0.25% of this. I can&#8217;t really even say that Stahl and HK&#8217;s reputation is at risk, since I&#8217;m not totally sure how many people even know this CEF exists, let alone keep it on their mental radar given how tiny the fund is (of course, this could also be construed as a bull case for why the fund is cheap in the first place).</p></li><li><p>Manipulating NAV growth via rights offering dilutions. The period ending 2019<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-38" href="#footnote-38" target="_self">38</a> saw $2.2MM added to the fund via rights offering (starting the year with $3.452MM in their MMF allocation and ending with $4.999MM)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-39" href="#footnote-39" target="_self">39</a> and 2022<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-40" href="#footnote-40" target="_self">40</a> saw $2.1MM added to the fund (starting the year with $3.523MM in their MMF allocation and ending with $4.907MM)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-41" href="#footnote-41" target="_self">41</a>. Investors were forced to subscribe to maintain their existing economic interest in the fund while the fund was able to step ever-closer to HK's $25MM NAV watermark all without having to produce any actual returns to shareholders. I don't know how I feel about this; I get that they need maintain a war chest of capital to make new investments, but by this mechanism HK advances their own economic interests at a much greater clip than shareholders. The fund started 2019 with NAV of $8.476MM and ended 2022 with $14.851MM, an increase of $6.375MM. The rights offerings in 2019 and 2022 added ($2.2MM+$2.1MM=)$4.3MM to the fund or 67% of the fund's NAV increase for the 2019-2022 period. The only thing that gives me comfort here is that Stahl directly and indirectly owns about 5.33% of the fund (about $600K at current prices), which is much less than how much the management fee would be ($10,000.00/yr) once NAV crosses the $25MM mark to, say, $26MM, so I <em>assume</em> the economic interests of management are ultimately aligned with shareholders.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MUjZ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f47b985-e1f4-465a-9f1b-64d65c531834_1204x236.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MUjZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f47b985-e1f4-465a-9f1b-64d65c531834_1204x236.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MUjZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f47b985-e1f4-465a-9f1b-64d65c531834_1204x236.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MUjZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f47b985-e1f4-465a-9f1b-64d65c531834_1204x236.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MUjZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f47b985-e1f4-465a-9f1b-64d65c531834_1204x236.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MUjZ!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f47b985-e1f4-465a-9f1b-64d65c531834_1204x236.png" width="884" height="173.27574750830564" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4f47b985-e1f4-465a-9f1b-64d65c531834_1204x236.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:236,&quot;width&quot;:1204,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:884,&quot;bytes&quot;:119284,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MUjZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f47b985-e1f4-465a-9f1b-64d65c531834_1204x236.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MUjZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f47b985-e1f4-465a-9f1b-64d65c531834_1204x236.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MUjZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f47b985-e1f4-465a-9f1b-64d65c531834_1204x236.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MUjZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4f47b985-e1f4-465a-9f1b-64d65c531834_1204x236.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/0001398344-22-018185-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/0001398344-22-018185-index.html</a> </figcaption></figure></div><p>Unfortunately, because CEFs distribute all of their net income, there is no other way for the fund to finance new positions or reinvestment (aside from drawing on their money market reserves). At the very least, the terms of the rights offerings in both the Feb 8 2019 and Jan 21 2021 cases were such that existing shareholders had the opportunity to 1.33x their existing shares at a discount 10% below the prevailing (for a net discount of 34% in 2019 and 23% in 2021)<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-42" href="#footnote-42" target="_self">42</a>.</p></li><li><p>HK launched the INFL actively managed ETF in January of 2021 and has created many more since then. In the <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2022_Q2_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">Q2 FY2022 FRMO conference call</a>, management mentions that they are also &#8220;<em>in the process of converting one of our mutual funds to an ETF</em>&#8221;<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-43" href="#footnote-43" target="_self">43</a> where management previously &#8220;<em>believed that you can&#8217;t do active management in ETFs, that ETFs were exclusively passive instruments</em>.&#8221; HK became the manager of the closed-ended RENN fund before this time, in 2017. Given these developments with ETFs at HK, I wonder if management sees the need for closed-ended funds as diminished or obsolete? Will RCG get less attention from management going forward? I&#8217;m pretty sure that the creation of new ETF units does not dilute existing unit-holders&#8217; stakes in the underlying businesses either as authorized participants by the ETF are just buying proportional underlying shares of stock per the ETF&#8217;s tracking index of active manager&#8217;s specified mix of stocks when they are bundling creation units.<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-44" href="#footnote-44" target="_self">44</a></p></li><li><p>&#8216;<em>They&#8217;re sitting on 30% of their AUM in cash / money market funds; why should I pay fees for them to just sit on interest-bearing cash? I can do that myself</em>.&#8217; To this I would just note that HK themselves are not taking any management fees on the fund (until AUM reaches $25MM) and I&#8217;m pretty sure the existing expenses are mostly fixed and don&#8217;t go to HK (eg. the fund&#8217;s largest expense comes from accounting and administration which is performed by the auditor Tait, Weller &amp; Baker LLP and UMB Fund Services, respectively), so it&#8217;s currently not quite the &#8216;<em>heads we win, tails management doesn&#8217;t lose</em>&#8217; kind of situation that it might appear at first blush (and again, I&#8217;d note that Stahl is buying on the open market consistently). One way to think about this is that the portfolio is structured in a barbell-like way where 1/3rd is in secure short-term money market funds, around 1/3rd is in a proven anchor tenant (TPL), while the rest is scattered across various small bets on entrepreneurial, private, or pre-revenue companies as selected by Stahl. </p></li><li><p>I could be missing something; maybe missing something really concerning the the annual shareholder reports or something &#8212;do let me know if you find anything. Aside from the fact that most CEFs typically trade at a discount, which I think is not warranted here given the CEO and brand recognition of HK, one simplistic answer could simply be that the fund&#8217;s holdings are too illiquid for arbitrageurs to get involved by shorting the underlying positions<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-45" href="#footnote-45" target="_self">45</a>. </p></li><li><p>The RENN Fund Inc. website that appears at the bottom of all of their annual reports (<a href="http://www.rencapital.com">www.rencapital.com</a>) does not work for me regardless of what web browser I use, IDK what is up with that.</p></li></ul><p></p><p>Note: I am long RCG.</p><h1>Further reading: </h1><ul><li><p><a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/products/closed-end-funds/renn/">https://horizonkinetics.com/products/closed-end-funds/renn/</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://fundamentalfinanceplaybook.com/2018/12/11/renn-fund-enter-horizon-kinetics/">https://fundamentalfinanceplaybook.com/2018/12/11/renn-fund-enter-horizon-kinetics/</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210518043826/https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/RENN_FUND_INC/7194145201">https://web.archive.org/web/20210518043826/https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/idea/RENN_FUND_INC/7194145201</a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20230131072708/https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/message/Fair_discount_for_a_Closed_End_Fund_CEF/213">https://web.archive.org/web/20230131072708/https://www.valueinvestorsclub.com/message/Fair_discount_for_a_Closed_End_Fund_CEF/213</a></p></li></ul><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! Leave a like if you found this useful and subscribe for free to receive new posts.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p>.</p><h1>Post update 20250614:</h1><p>June 11 2025, the fund published an 8K stating&#8230;</p><blockquote><p><em>On June 5, 2025, the Board of Directors (&#8220;Board&#8221;) for the Fund approved certain changes to the Fund&#8217;s corporate governance documents and its Board of Directors as described herein.</em></p><p><em>Based on the recommendation of the Nominating and Governance Committee, the Board <strong>unanimously approved changes to the Fund&#8217;s Code of Ethics, effective immediately</strong>. A copy of the updated document is attached as an exhibit and is incorporated by reference.</em></p><p><em><strong>Additionally, the Board accepted the resignation of Murray Stahl as a Director of the Fund, a position he held since July 2017. Mr. Stahl will, however, continue to serve as the President, Chief Executive Officer and Co-Portfolio Manager for the Fund</strong>. In connection with Mr. Stahl&#8217;s resignation, Douglas Cohen was appointed as the Chairman of the Board. With Mr. Stahl&#8217;s resignation, the size of the board is now set to 5. ~~~ <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834425011723/0001398344-25-011723-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834425011723/0001398344-25-011723-index.html</a></em></p></blockquote><p>The new Code of Ethics document (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834425011723/fp0093901-1_ex991.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834425011723/fp0093901-1_ex991.htm</a>) also has a new section for &#8220;Personal Securities Trading&#8221; that was not present before (<a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834425005309/0001398344-25-005309-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834425005309/0001398344-25-005309-index.html</a>, exhibit-1), which adds pre-clearance and trading restrictions for independent directors to trade securities related to the fund. </p><p>Asking Horizon Kinetics certain questions I had about the board changes, they replied that Stahl&#8217;s main reason for resigning from the RENN BoD was to relieve some of the responsibility from serving on multiple boards (he was on as many as 6 boards at the time).  ISS, the leading proxy voting firm, refers to this as overboarding. </p><p>While, Stahl will no longer serves on the board, he will continue to attend board meetings and participate as a management representative, however he will have no vote on board matters. He will also continue to manage the fund on a day-to-day basis. IR&#8217;s position was that Stahl&#8217;s resignation also further enhances the independent nature of the board, as his spot will now be filled by Douglas Cohen who has assumed the role of the independent Chairman.</p><p>Stahl continues to buy shares of the fund on a daily basis as can be see from his public filings and this was pointed out to me as a sign that he remains committed and invested. However, I&#8217;d note &#8212;as I did when I originally wrote this article and is still applicable today&#8212; that Stahl&#8217;s total stake in the RENN Fund today (845,822 shares, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000143774925020279/xslF345X03/rdgdoc.xml">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000143774925020279/xslF345X03/rdgdoc.xml</a>) makes up around just 0.8% of what I estimate to be his total net worth (which I estimate at around $280MM).</p><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Stahl is around 69 (see the proxy statement, <a href="https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/346455/content">here</a>), compared to the 65 age limit that designates someone as a senior under Medicare and the 62 limit for Social Security.</p><p><a href="https://www.seniorliving.org/life/senior-citizen/#:~:text=For%20example%2C%20according%20to%20Medicare,can%20get%20a%20senior%20discount.">https://www.seniorliving.org/life/senior-citizen/#:~:text=For%20example%2C%20according%20to%20Medicare,can%20get%20a%20senior%20discount.</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-2" href="#footnote-anchor-2" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">2</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000106299316011802/schedto.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000106299316011802/schedto.htm</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000089180417000147/rf70595-pre14a.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000089180417000147/rf70595-pre14a.htm </a></p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834418003872/fp0031803_ncsr.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834418003872/fp0031803_ncsr.htm  </a></p><blockquote><p><em>As you are aware, at a special meeting of shareholders held on June 29, 2017 (&#8220;Special Meeting&#8221;), the Fund approved a new investment advisory agreement with Horizon Asset Management LLC (&#8220;Horizon&#8221;), which modified the Fund&#8217;s investment objectives and principal investment strategies. Formerly, the Fund pursued its investment objective of income and long-term capital appreciation through investing in emerging growth companies, particularly with small and micro-cap companies. Since the Special Meeting, the Fund&#8217;s objective has been to achieve above-market rates of return through capital appreciation and income, but it no longer pursues this objective primarily through investments in emerging growth companies. Instead, the Fund has pursued its objective through a long-term, value oriented investment process that may invest in a wide variety of financial instruments, including common stocks, fixed income securities including convertible and non-convertible debt securities or loans, distressed debt, warrants and preferred stock, exchange traded funds, and other instruments. Additionally, as part of the new investment advisory agreement, Horizon is paid no management fee on net assets less than $25 million; Horizon&#8217;s fee is 1.0% on net assets above $25 million.</em></p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000113379616000261/0001133796-16-000261-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000113379616000261/0001133796-16-000261-index.html</a></p><blockquote><p><em>The Board has unanimously adopted and approved a Plan of Liquidation and Dissolution (the &#8220;Plan&#8221;) subject to the approval of the Fund&#8217;s shareholders at the 2016 annual meeting of shareholders (the &#8220;Annual Meeting&#8221;). The Board weighed a variety of factors, including (in no particular order):</em></p><p><em>&#183;the Board recognizes that the Fund does not have sufficient assets to economically continue as a fund. The expenses of the Fund are too high for the Fund to continue to operate economically;</em></p><p><em>&#183;anticipated benefits to all shareholders that would result from liquidation, particularly the return of the net asset value of the Fund&#8217;s shares to shareholders in the form of distributions of cash and securities;</em></p><p><em>&#183;the Board notes that the Fund has been trading at a significant discount to its net asset value for an extended period of time;</em></p><p><em>&#183;the recommendation of the Fund&#8217;s investment adviser and its management team; and</em></p><p><em>&#183;possible alternatives to liquidation.</em></p><p><em>Based on these considerations, among others, on balance, the Board&#8211;consistent with the recommendation of Fund management&#8211;determined that liquidation and dissolution would be the best option.</em></p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>You can see the old website of the fund here: <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180612024623/http://www.rencapital.com/">https://web.archive.org/web/20180612024623/http://www.rencapital.com/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/renn-fund-agrees-be-taken-over-horizon-new-manager-may-hold-rights-offer-2016-10-19">https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/renn-fund-agrees-be-taken-over-horizon-new-manager-may-hold-rights-offer-2016-10-19</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834418016401/fp0037003_n2a.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834418016401/fp0037003_n2a.htm</a></p><p><a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/RENN-Fund-Inc-Rights-Offering-December-2021.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/RENN-Fund-Inc-Rights-Offering-December-2021.pdf</a></p><p>In the original 2017 proxy vote, HK only said they would purchase min(10%, $1MM) of unsubscribed shares of the initial rights offering, however they later (Dec 19 2018) changed this to all unsubscribed shares (and again in another rights offering in 2021): </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Stockholders on the Record Date may purchase shares not acquired by other Stockholders in this Rights offering, subject to certain limitations discussed in this Prospectus. Additionally, Horizon Asset Management LLC (&#8220;Horizon&#8221;) will purchase any shares not otherwise acquired by other Stockholders in this Rights offering.</em>&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834418016401/fp0037003_n2a.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834418016401/fp0037003_n2a.htm</a></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><em>Additionally, Horizon has entered into a backstop agreement with the Fund, whereby Horizon will purchase all remaining unsubscribed shares, if any, after the Initial Subscription and Over-Subscription periods by shareholders</em> &#8212;- <a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/RENN-Rights-Offering-Press-Release_December-2018.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/RENN-Rights-Offering-Press-Release_December-2018.pdf</a></p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>&#8220;<em>Horizon is not paid an advisory fee on net assets less than $25 million and thereafter will charge a management fee of 1.0% on net assets above $25 million.</em>&#8221; </p><p>Also note that the fund does already charge auditing (the bulk of existing fees, which don&#8217;t go to HK, but to Tait, Weller &amp; Baker LLP) and other administrative fees, but those <em>should</em> be generally fixed (<a href="https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2022/11/02/twenty-year-review-of-audit-and-non-audit-fee-trends/">https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2022/11/02/twenty-year-review-of-audit-and-non-audit-fee-trends/</a>) and become a relatively smaller percentage as the fund&#8217;s assets grow in time.</p><p>https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834422005648/fp0073605_ncsr.htm</p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834419004244/fp0039850_ncsr.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834419004244/fp0039850_ncsr.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834422018185/fp0079129_ncsrs.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834422018185/fp0079129_ncsrs.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.ici.org/cef/background/bro_g2_ce#Taxes">https://www.ici.org/cef/background/bro_g2_ce#Taxes</a></p><blockquote><p><em>In order to avoid the imposition of federal tax at the fund level, a closed-end fund must meet Internal Revenue Service (IRS) requirements for sources of income and diversification of portfolio holdings, and must distribute substantially all of its income and capital gains to shareholders annually. Generally, shareholders of closed-end funds must pay income taxes on the income and capital gains distributed to them. Each closed-end fund will provide an IRS Form 1099 to its shareholders annually that summarizes the fund&#8217;s distributions. When a shareholder sells shares of a closed-end fund, the shareholder may realize either a taxable gain or a loss.</em></p></blockquote><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834422018185/fp0079129_ncsrs.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834422018185/fp0079129_ncsrs.htm</a></p><blockquote><p><em>The Fund intends to comply with the requirements of Subchapter M of the Internal Revenue Code applicable to regulated investment companies and to distribute substantially all of its net investment income and any net realized gains to its shareholders. Therefore, no provision is made for federal income or excise taxes.</em></p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/07/mfdistribution.asp">https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/07/mfdistribution.asp</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000120709723000064/xslF345X03/primary_doc.xml">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000120709723000064/xslF345X03/primary_doc.xml</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=919567&amp;owner=exclude">https://www.sec.gov/edgar/browse/?CIK=919567&amp;owner=exclude</a></p><p><a href="https://whalewisdom.com/whale_watching/Stock/9568">https://whalewisdom.com/whale_watching/Stock/9568</a></p><p><a href="https://fintel.io/n/us/rcg">https://fintel.io/n/us/rcg</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Based on total number of securities beneficially owned in <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000120709723000078/xslF345X03/primary_doc.xml">latest Form 4</a> (476559 total shares) as of my writing this and the total shares outstanding of 7015786.</p><p>You can see the breakdown of total director ownership as of the July 2022 definitive proxy here:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hZZO!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71cf0ad7-c927-4ded-9855-0d32422af73e_1197x324.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hZZO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71cf0ad7-c927-4ded-9855-0d32422af73e_1197x324.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hZZO!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71cf0ad7-c927-4ded-9855-0d32422af73e_1197x324.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hZZO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71cf0ad7-c927-4ded-9855-0d32422af73e_1197x324.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hZZO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71cf0ad7-c927-4ded-9855-0d32422af73e_1197x324.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hZZO!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71cf0ad7-c927-4ded-9855-0d32422af73e_1197x324.png" width="1016" height="275.0075187969925" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/71cf0ad7-c927-4ded-9855-0d32422af73e_1197x324.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:324,&quot;width&quot;:1197,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:1016,&quot;bytes&quot;:77933,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hZZO!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71cf0ad7-c927-4ded-9855-0d32422af73e_1197x324.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hZZO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71cf0ad7-c927-4ded-9855-0d32422af73e_1197x324.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hZZO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71cf0ad7-c927-4ded-9855-0d32422af73e_1197x324.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hZZO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F71cf0ad7-c927-4ded-9855-0d32422af73e_1197x324.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/0001398344-22-013475-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/0001398344-22-013475-index.html</a></figcaption></figure></div><p><em>(Russell Cleveland is the fund&#8217;s original CEO)</em></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-12" href="#footnote-anchor-12" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">12</a><div class="footnote-content"><blockquote><p><em>The Fund does not pay any fees to, or reimburse expenses of, its Directors who are considered &#8220;interested persons&#8221; of the Fund. Directors who are not interested persons of either the Fund or its investment adviser, Horizon Kinetics Asset Management LLC, currently receive no fee but are entitled to out-of-pocket expenses for each quarterly meeting attended. For the fiscal year ended December 31, 2020, the aggregate compensation paid by the Fund to each Director, and the aggregate compensation paid by any other funds in a Fund Complex with the Fund to each Director, is set forth below:</em></p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Y1S!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07eda4d-9d41-4d30-97b4-9ad0b655b816_1199x191.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Y1S!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07eda4d-9d41-4d30-97b4-9ad0b655b816_1199x191.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Y1S!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07eda4d-9d41-4d30-97b4-9ad0b655b816_1199x191.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Y1S!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07eda4d-9d41-4d30-97b4-9ad0b655b816_1199x191.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Y1S!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07eda4d-9d41-4d30-97b4-9ad0b655b816_1199x191.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Y1S!,w_2400,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07eda4d-9d41-4d30-97b4-9ad0b655b816_1199x191.png" width="828" height="131.8999165971643" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/a07eda4d-9d41-4d30-97b4-9ad0b655b816_1199x191.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:false,&quot;imageSize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;height&quot;:191,&quot;width&quot;:1199,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:828,&quot;bytes&quot;:44215,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-large" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Y1S!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa07eda4d-9d41-4d30-97b4-9ad0b655b816_1199x191.png 424w, 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href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/0001398344-22-013475-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/0001398344-22-013475-index.html</a></figcaption></figure></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-13" href="#footnote-anchor-13" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">13</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://kineticsfunds.com/funds/paradigm-fund/#:~:text=Performance%20Overview&amp;text=The%20Paradigm%20Fund%20No%20Load,does%20not%20guarantee%20future%20results.">https://kineticsfunds.com/funds/paradigm-fund/#:~:text=Performance%20Overview&amp;text=The%20Paradigm%20Fund%20No%20Load,does%20not%20guarantee%20future%20results.</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-14" href="#footnote-anchor-14" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">14</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/2022-RENN-AR.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/2022-RENN-AR.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-15" href="#footnote-anchor-15" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">15</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://fundresearch.fidelity.com/mutual-funds/summary/31607A703">https://fundresearch.fidelity.com/mutual-funds/summary/31607A703</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!iaMx!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffd569bdc-13f8-4396-ac01-9d5b69a8805f_1412x97.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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up-and-coming athletes, <a href="https://bigleagueadvantage.com/about/">https://bigleagueadvantage.com/about/</a> </p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-19" href="#footnote-anchor-19" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">19</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://diamondstandard.co/">https://diamondstandard.co/</a></p><p>I&#8217;m very skeptical on this bet in general, but I also was not buying BTC in 2016 like Stahl was, so there&#8217;s that.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-20" href="#footnote-anchor-20" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">20</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>While not as large a holding as the rest of the PE investments in the fund, security exchanges collectively make up a 2% position &#8212;note that MIAX and the other PE holdings are values based on precedent transactions, not a market valuation.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FkiH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebb8cd3-2367-4194-b872-09a95ca1a0b6_1396x118.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FkiH!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebb8cd3-2367-4194-b872-09a95ca1a0b6_1396x118.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FkiH!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ebb8cd3-2367-4194-b872-09a95ca1a0b6_1396x118.png 848w, 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href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834422018185/fp0079129_ncsrs.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834422018185/fp0079129_ncsrs.htm</a></figcaption></figure></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-21" href="#footnote-anchor-21" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">21</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>You can determine for yourself searching for &#8220;Quantitative Information about Level 3 Fair Value Measurements&#8221; in the June 2022 annual report for the fund here: <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834422018185/fp0079129_ncsrs.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834422018185/fp0079129_ncsrs.htm</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-22" href="#footnote-anchor-22" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">22</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>As an example, the Horizon Kinetics <a href="https://kineticsfunds.com/funds/internet-fund/">Internet Fund</a> has a ~20% position in TPL (an oil, gas and land royalty business). I don&#8217;t totally see a clear argument &#8212;at least to the extent that TPL is so heavily weighted in the fund&#8212; that this company is &#8220;participating in the growth of the Internet&#8221; or providing &#8220;new kinds of services or products made possible by development or improvement of Internet-related technologies&#8221;; yes, I know they are exploring <a href="https://www.texaspacific.com/investors/news-events/press-releases/detail/131/texas-pacific-land-corporation-mawson-infrastructure-group">hosting Bitcoin mining</a> operations, but 20% of the fund, really?</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-23" href="#footnote-anchor-23" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">23</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Whose new CEO was named in a bribery scandal at his previous company:</p><p><a href="https://www.lawfuel.com/olympus-america-inc-pays-306-million-resolve-allegations-anti-kickback-violations/">https://www.lawfuel.com/olympus-america-inc-pays-306-million-resolve-allegations-anti-kickback-violations/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.mcall.com/2016/03/02/olympus-to-pay-646m-over-kickbacks-and-bribes-to-doctors-hospitals/">https://www.mcall.com/2016/03/02/olympus-to-pay-646m-over-kickbacks-and-bribes-to-doctors-hospitals/</a></p><p><a href="https://policymed.typepad.com/files/olympus-second-amended-complaint-2-4-16.pdf">https://policymed.typepad.com/files/olympus-second-amended-complaint-2-4-16.pdf</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ux7P!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbcb36dd0-5dc3-405c-8d6d-80277f93de4b_650x252.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-24" href="#footnote-anchor-24" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">24</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The Feb 2016 complaint: <a href="https://policymed.typepad.com/files/olympus-second-amended-complaint-2-4-16.pdf">https://policymed.typepad.com/files/olympus-second-amended-complaint-2-4-16.pdf</a>, see starting at #4 and #5. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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Gyrus' Kickback Scheme&#8221; in the link</em>)</p><p><a href="https://www.lawfuel.com/olympus-america-inc-pays-306-million-resolve-allegations-anti-kickback-violations/">https://www.lawfuel.com/olympus-america-inc-pays-306-million-resolve-allegations-anti-kickback-violations/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.mcall.com/2016/03/02/olympus-to-pay-646m-over-kickbacks-and-bribes-to-doctors-hospitals/">https://www.mcall.com/2016/03/02/olympus-to-pay-646m-over-kickbacks-and-bribes-to-doctors-hospitals/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.policymed.com/2016/03/olympus-settlement-and-corporate-integrity-agreement-fcpa-and-anti-kickback-for-646-million.html">https://www.policymed.com/2016/03/olympus-settlement-and-corporate-integrity-agreement-fcpa-and-anti-kickback-for-646-million.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-25" href="#footnote-anchor-25" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">25</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>This is apparently just the tip of the iceberg of the issues that were going on with Olypmus, see <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympus_scandal#Background">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympus_scandal#Background</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-26" href="#footnote-anchor-26" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">26</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://policymed.typepad.com/files/olympus-second-amended-complaint-2-4-16.pdf">https://policymed.typepad.com/files/olympus-second-amended-complaint-2-4-16.pdf</a>, pt.20 </p><blockquote><p><em>By virtue of its acquisition of Gyrus and its retention of senior Gyrus management, Olympus assumed liability for Gyrus' pre-acquisition operations as successor in interest. Olympus is liable for the unlawful conduct that has seamJessly continued post acquisition.  </em></p></blockquote><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-27" href="#footnote-anchor-27" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">27</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://policymed.typepad.com/files/olympus-second-amended-complaint-2-4-16.pdf">https://policymed.typepad.com/files/olympus-second-amended-complaint-2-4-16.pdf</a></p><p>Goodwin&#8217;s LinkedIn page even includes that he was &#8220;<em>[i]nstrumental in leading and overseeing the integration of two disparate cultures following the Olympus acquisition of Gyrus ACMI to meet productivity and operating objectives.</em>&#8221; It appears the integration was in the opposite direction, if anything.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-28" href="#footnote-anchor-28" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">28</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180709005399/en/Bovie-Medical-Corporation-Announces-Agreement-to-Sell-%E2%80%9CCore%E2%80%9D-Business-Segment-to-Symmetry-Surgical-Inc.-for-Total-Cash-Consideration-of-97-million">https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180709005399/en/Bovie-Medical-Corporation-Announces-Agreement-to-Sell-%E2%80%9CCore%E2%80%9D-Business-Segment-to-Symmetry-Surgical-Inc.-for-Total-Cash-Consideration-of-97-million</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/719135/0000719135-20-000029-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/719135/0000719135-20-000029-index.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-29" href="#footnote-anchor-29" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">29</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.csisoftware.com/about-us/being-acquired">https://www.csisoftware.com/about-us/being-acquired</a></p><p>FitLife has a 40% gross profit margin, 2019-2022 revenue CAGR of 14%, EBIT margin expansion CAGR of 16%, FCF/sh CAGR of 20%, LTM revenue of $32MM and EBIT of $6MM, and trades at around 2.5x TEV/Revenues &#8212;though FitLife&#8217;s industry is a lot less niche than what a typical Constellation Software target software company.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-30" href="#footnote-anchor-30" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">30</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20230618: This would be especially more likely if RFK is speaking the truth and his presidential campaign actually causes that idea to gain begrudging acceptance by the public. You get a good amount of his POV on the subject from the first hour of the interview here:</em> ********** </p><iframe class="spotify-wrap podcast" data-attrs="{&quot;image&quot;:&quot;https://i.scdn.co/image/ab6765630000ba8a5dbc9757f46524ff47040225&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;#1999 - Robert Kennedy, Jr.&quot;,&quot;subtitle&quot;:&quot;Joe Rogan&quot;,&quot;description&quot;:&quot;Episode&quot;,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://open.spotify.com/episode/3DQfcTY4viyXsIXQ89NXvg&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;noScroll&quot;:false}" src="https://open.spotify.com/embed/episode/3DQfcTY4viyXsIXQ89NXvg" frameborder="0" gesture="media" allowfullscreen="true" allow="encrypted-media" loading="lazy" data-component-name="Spotify2ToDOM"></iframe></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-31" href="#footnote-anchor-31" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">31</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/big-league-advance-is-a-major-league-scam-targeting-the-prodigious-and-vulnerable-1.4625721">https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/big-league-advance-is-a-major-league-scam-targeting-the-prodigious-and-vulnerable-1.4625721</a></p><p><a href="https://www.milb.com/news/indians-prospect-francisco-mejia-sues-bla-over-disputed-deal-272068894">https://www.milb.com/news/indians-prospect-francisco-mejia-sues-bla-over-disputed-deal-272068894</a></p><p><a href="https://www.draysbay.com/2018/9/3/17814788/big-league-advance-invests-in-prospects-some-find-that-problematic">https://www.draysbay.com/2018/9/3/17814788/big-league-advance-invests-in-prospects-some-find-that-problematic</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-32" href="#footnote-anchor-32" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">32</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>From the 2020 semi-annual shareholder report: <a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/0001398344-20-018256-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/0001398344-20-018256-index.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-33" href="#footnote-anchor-33" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">33</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>********** UPDATE 20230521: Though I would just like to note that this particular macro view of higher FFR and more inflation is apparently very non-consensus and I&#8217;m very comfortable with have Stahl be the allocator hedging my money on this macro view. **********</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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Just from this they appear to have only deployed 2% of their NAV in the year of 2020.</p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/0001398344-20-005731-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/0001398344-20-005731-index.html</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/0001398344-20-018256-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/0001398344-20-018256-index.html</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/0001398344-21-006354-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/0001398344-21-006354-index.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-35" href="#footnote-anchor-35" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">35</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://byjus.com/maths/harmonic-mean/">https://byjus.com/maths/harmonic-mean/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.learn-stat.com/what-is-harmonic-mean/">https://www.learn-stat.com/what-is-harmonic-mean/</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-36" href="#footnote-anchor-36" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">36</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/719135/0000719135-22-000048-index.html">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/719135/0000719135-22-000048-index.html</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-37" href="#footnote-anchor-37" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">37</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2012_FRMO_Transcript.pdf">https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/letters/2012_FRMO_Transcript.pdf</a></p><blockquote><p><em>All my money is managed by Horizon Kinetics, other than my checking accounts, and you can consider my house as part of my net worth. [&#8230;] So, I would say, all together&#8212;I probably shouldn&#8217;t disclose my net worth, but I would say maybe&#8212;this is off the top of my head&#8212;let&#8217;s say at least 20-plus percent of my net worth is in FRMO. 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href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/RENN-Fund-Inc-Rights-Offering-December-2021.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/RENN-Fund-Inc-Rights-Offering-December-2021.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-41" href="#footnote-anchor-41" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">41</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834422005648/fp0073605_ncsr.htm">https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/919567/000139834422005648/fp0073605_ncsr.htm</a></p><p><a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/2022-RENN-AR-2.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/2022-RENN-AR-2.pdf</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" 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the three days of trading leading up to and including the expiration of the Offering</em>&#8221; (ie. an additional 10% discount to the existing market rate discount to NAV at the time).</p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-43" href="#footnote-anchor-43" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">43</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>I believe this refers to what were formerly the Kinetics Medical Fund and Alternative Income Fund</p><p><a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Horizon-Kinetics-ETFs-SAI.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Horizon-Kinetics-ETFs-SAI.pdf</a></p><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210122002825/https://kineticsfunds.com/funds/">https://web.archive.org/web/20210122002825/https://kineticsfunds.com/funds/</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(Jan 2021)</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PE6R!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd293d63c-c3ef-4d3d-9ebd-2a89252f600b_1007x696.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PE6R!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd293d63c-c3ef-4d3d-9ebd-2a89252f600b_1007x696.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PE6R!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd293d63c-c3ef-4d3d-9ebd-2a89252f600b_1007x696.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PE6R!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd293d63c-c3ef-4d3d-9ebd-2a89252f600b_1007x696.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PE6R!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd293d63c-c3ef-4d3d-9ebd-2a89252f600b_1007x696.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PE6R!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd293d63c-c3ef-4d3d-9ebd-2a89252f600b_1007x696.png" width="1007" height="696" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d293d63c-c3ef-4d3d-9ebd-2a89252f600b_1007x696.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:696,&quot;width&quot;:1007,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:402245,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PE6R!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd293d63c-c3ef-4d3d-9ebd-2a89252f600b_1007x696.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PE6R!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd293d63c-c3ef-4d3d-9ebd-2a89252f600b_1007x696.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PE6R!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd293d63c-c3ef-4d3d-9ebd-2a89252f600b_1007x696.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PE6R!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd293d63c-c3ef-4d3d-9ebd-2a89252f600b_1007x696.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>(Now in 2023)</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-44" href="#footnote-anchor-44" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">44</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.ici.org/faqs/faq/etfs/faqs_etfs">https://www.ici.org/faqs/faq/etfs/faqs_etfs</a></p><p><a href="https://www.etf.com/etf-education-center/etf-basics/what-is-the-creationredemption-mechanism">https://www.etf.com/etf-education-center/etf-basics/what-is-the-creationredemption-mechanism</a></p><p><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/articles/mutualfund/05/062705.asp">https://www.investopedia.com/articles/mutualfund/05/062705.asp</a></p><p><a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Horizon-Kinetics-ETFs-SAI.pdf">https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Horizon-Kinetics-ETFs-SAI.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-45" href="#footnote-anchor-45" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">45</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://fintel.io/ss/us/tpl">https://fintel.io/ss/us/tpl</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-NyK!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6db5c59b-60fd-4ac2-9df7-de4dfcc7cfd6_580x178.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-NyK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6db5c59b-60fd-4ac2-9df7-de4dfcc7cfd6_580x178.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-NyK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6db5c59b-60fd-4ac2-9df7-de4dfcc7cfd6_580x178.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-NyK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6db5c59b-60fd-4ac2-9df7-de4dfcc7cfd6_580x178.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-NyK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6db5c59b-60fd-4ac2-9df7-de4dfcc7cfd6_580x178.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-NyK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6db5c59b-60fd-4ac2-9df7-de4dfcc7cfd6_580x178.png" width="580" height="178" 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-NyK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6db5c59b-60fd-4ac2-9df7-de4dfcc7cfd6_580x178.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-NyK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6db5c59b-60fd-4ac2-9df7-de4dfcc7cfd6_580x178.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-NyK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6db5c59b-60fd-4ac2-9df7-de4dfcc7cfd6_580x178.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p><a href="https://fintel.io/ss/us/apyx">https://fintel.io/ss/us/apyx</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgTL!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3aae49c9-f3ca-41af-a0f4-e3e72b1bd385_620x187.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgTL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3aae49c9-f3ca-41af-a0f4-e3e72b1bd385_620x187.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgTL!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3aae49c9-f3ca-41af-a0f4-e3e72b1bd385_620x187.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgTL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3aae49c9-f3ca-41af-a0f4-e3e72b1bd385_620x187.png 1272w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgTL!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3aae49c9-f3ca-41af-a0f4-e3e72b1bd385_620x187.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgTL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3aae49c9-f3ca-41af-a0f4-e3e72b1bd385_620x187.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!pgTL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3aae49c9-f3ca-41af-a0f4-e3e72b1bd385_620x187.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p><a href="https://fintel.io/ss/us/ftlf">https://fintel.io/ss/us/ftlf</a></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tqd-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe05cfed3-c51e-4298-936c-f9e9707ba0ac_547x66.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tqd-!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe05cfed3-c51e-4298-936c-f9e9707ba0ac_547x66.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tqd-!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe05cfed3-c51e-4298-936c-f9e9707ba0ac_547x66.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Tqd-!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe05cfed3-c51e-4298-936c-f9e9707ba0ac_547x66.png 1272w, 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capital]]></description><link>https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/notes-on-how-they-did-it-warren-buffett</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/notes-on-how-they-did-it-warren-buffett</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[RV]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2023 21:46:49 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8Qp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1240e6be-4f1d-4196-ac7b-1e987ff716f3_640x427.jpeg" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a continuation of a series of posts covering the various chapters of Murray Stahl&#8217;s 2011 hardcover-only book, &#8220;How They Did It&#8221;, for the purpose of making the content digitally available in some approximated form, mostly for my own future reference. For more background on what I&#8217;m even talking about, how this is series is formatted, and a complete list of the original sources compiled in the book, see the post here:</p><div class="embedded-post-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:100127660,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/notes-on-how-they-did-it-benjamin&quot;,&quot;publication_id&quot;:572622,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Notes on \&quot;How They Did It\&quot;: Benjamin Graham&quot;,&quot;truncated_body_text&quot;:&quot;&#8220;Reading is forced meditation&#8221; &#8212;- David Senra &#8220;Tell me who your heroes are and I&#8217;ll tell you how you&#8217;ll turn out to be.&#8221; &#8212;- Warren Buffett One thing that I think is sort of interesting about books is that, often, their value is only realized/actualized over a long time horizon, while at the same time that value is not generally affected by interest rates &#8230;&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2023-02-01T04:28:59.601Z&quot;,&quot;like_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;bylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;previous_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;profile_set_up_at&quot;:&quot;2021-11-18T11:45:26.538Z&quot;,&quot;publicationUsers&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:503784,&quot;user_id&quot;:58613880,&quot;publication_id&quot;:572622,&quot;role&quot;:&quot;admin&quot;,&quot;public&quot;:true,&quot;is_primary&quot;:false,&quot;publication&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:572622,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;subdomain&quot;:&quot;lemoncakesinvesting&quot;,&quot;custom_domain&quot;:null,&quot;custom_domain_optional&quot;:false,&quot;hero_text&quot;:&quot;I&#8217;m nobody and I have nothing to sell. 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that I think is sort of interesting about books is that, often, their value is only realized/actualized over a long time horizon, while at the same time that value is not generally affected by interest rates &#8230;</div><div class="embedded-post-cta-wrapper"><span class="embedded-post-cta">Read more</span></div><div class="embedded-post-meta">3 years ago &#183; 1 like &#183; RV</div></a></div><h1>Berkshire Hathaway: Doubting Buffett before the fame&#8230; and even for a time after</h1><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LYUp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1f4f770e-dade-4f80-83e9-3929e97a52e4_425x237.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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fetchpriority="high"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Today, Warren Buffett is solidly an investing icon with dozens of books written about him that are read by thousands of investors around the world and with a not-insignificant fraction of those readers flocking to Omaha, Nebraska each year to hear him speak in person. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8Qp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1240e6be-4f1d-4196-ac7b-1e987ff716f3_640x427.jpeg" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!H8Qp!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1240e6be-4f1d-4196-ac7b-1e987ff716f3_640x427.jpeg 424w, 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data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/1240e6be-4f1d-4196-ac7b-1e987ff716f3_640x427.jpeg&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:427,&quot;width&quot;:640,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:null,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;What happened at Warren Buffett's annual meeting&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:null,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:false,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="What happened at Warren Buffett's annual meeting" title="What happened at Warren Buffett's annual meeting" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">And I thought value investors didn&#8217;t follow the crowds.</figcaption></figure></div><p>However, throughout the tumultuous period of the 1970s, Stahl in this chapter comments on how despite a continually growing book value within (the relatively unknown at the time) Warren Buffett&#8217;s Berkshire Hathaway, on the outside, the stock&#8217;s price told a very different story. 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VEpm!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc58635aa-2085-4729-81c0-57d233025779_542x211.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VEpm!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc58635aa-2085-4729-81c0-57d233025779_542x211.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!VEpm!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc58635aa-2085-4729-81c0-57d233025779_542x211.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150714191334/http://www.frmocorp.com:80/_content/essays/Berkshire%20Hathaway,%20Part%20I%20October%202008.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20150714191334/http://www.frmocorp.com:80/_content/essays/Berkshire%20Hathaway,%20Part%20I%20October%202008.pdf</a></figcaption></figure></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NvC2!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6fe2d44d-dbd1-4dc2-9814-4795aaeb476b_521x214.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NvC2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6fe2d44d-dbd1-4dc2-9814-4795aaeb476b_521x214.png 424w, 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href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150714191334/http://www.frmocorp.com:80/_content/essays/Berkshire%20Hathaway,%20Part%20I%20October%202008.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20150714191334/http://www.frmocorp.com:80/_content/essays/Berkshire%20Hathaway,%20Part%20I%20October%202008.pdf</a>; It&#8217;s not hard to imagine how the cumulative losses would have made it difficult to continue to hold BRK stock over those years</figcaption></figure></div><blockquote><p><em>At the end of 1975 our insurance subsidiaries held common equities with a market value exactly equal to cost of $39.3 million. At the end of 1978 this position had been increased to equities (including a convertible preferred) with a cost of $129.1 million and a market value of $216.5 million. During the intervening three years we also had realized pre&#8208;tax gains from common equities of approximately $24.7 million. Therefore, our overall unrealized and realized pre&#8208;tax gains in equities for the three year period came to approximately $112 million. During this same interval the Dow&#8208;Jones Industrial Average declined from 852 to 805. It was a marvelous period for the value&#8208;oriented equity buyer. &#8212;- Warren Buffett, &#8220;1978 Letter To the Shareholders of Berkshire Hathaway Inc.&#8221; </em></p></blockquote><p>In nearly every year throughout that decade, BRK traded at a discount to &#8212;its continually growing&#8212; book value. During this same period, Buffett would also increase his stake in the business by around 100% of his existing interest. It could be understandable that investors did not recognize this opportunity at the time as Buffett was still relatively unknown during the 1970s, but this would be a harder case to argue during the 1999-2000 dot-com bubble that saw the market again price BRK at a significant discount to NAV; my understanding is that Buffett had by this time become a house-hold investing and business name during his take-over of Salomon Brothers in 1991<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-1" href="#footnote-1" target="_self">1</a>, by which point Buffett was in his early/mid 60s &#8212;of course, this incident did not necessarily paint Buffett in the most flattering light.</p><p>We can see that, since that time, BRK has never traded at any discount to book comparable to those other periods, save for a few trading days in 2008 and 2020. </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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Note that 1. while it tends to trade at seemingly large book multiples, there are a lot of assets on FRMO&#8217;s balance sheet that are held at-cost or at somewhat arbitrary values (for example their <a href="https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/i/44213980/revenue-participation">Horizon Kinetics revenue royalty stream</a>) and 2. 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I think a lot of people get in a lot of trouble because they do a transaction and they don&#8217;t understand what the risk they&#8217;re assuming is when they do the transaction. What he taught me more than anything else was, look at the deal and figure out where is the vulnerabilit&#8230;</div><div class="embedded-post-cta-wrapper"><span class="embedded-post-cta">Read more</span></div><div class="embedded-post-meta">4 years ago &#183; RV</div></a></div><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8DM9!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F416a0ee5-fb54-4e72-9bec-c27df5f02bc2_1570x607.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!8DM9!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F416a0ee5-fb54-4e72-9bec-c27df5f02bc2_1570x607.png 424w, 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Again, as I write this, FRMO is currently trading at a P/B of 1.50x; lower than in 2010 and comparable to the tail-end of March 2020 and is now derisked of it&#8217;s large GBTC position (by way of unrealized losses from the &#8216;crypto winter&#8217; of 2022) which now makes up just 3% of FRMO&#8217;s TBV<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-2" href="#footnote-2" target="_self">2</a> (FRMO started with just a 500bps allocation back in 2016). It should also be noted that during this whole time period of available nominal P/B data for FRMO, interest rates were largely zero-bound, so historical comps may not be the best gauge of opportunity here; though I do personally think that FRMO is trading much closer to <em>parity</em> with its <em>true</em> book value than what is reported. </p><p>Stahl remarks that while much has been written attempting to extract how Buffett identified his investment opportunities (in a similar manner to the investment community&#8217;s treatment of Ben Graham), much less time is spent on understanding the conditions of extreme investor pessimism that created those opportunities &#8212;recall the first post in this series on how the Great Depression played a large role in making Ben Graham&#8217;s outstanding track record possible. </p><div class="embedded-post-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;id&quot;:100127660,&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/p/notes-on-how-they-did-it-benjamin&quot;,&quot;publication_id&quot;:572622,&quot;publication_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;publication_logo_url&quot;:&quot;https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F1881f3fb-0f1f-4e13-b52b-d4866f4fc8bd_468x468.png&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Notes on \&quot;How They Did It\&quot;: Benjamin Graham&quot;,&quot;truncated_body_text&quot;:&quot;&#8220;Reading is forced meditation&#8221; &#8212;- David Senra &#8220;Tell me who your heroes are and I&#8217;ll tell you how you&#8217;ll turn out to be.&#8221; &#8212;- Warren Buffett One thing that I think is sort of interesting about books is that, often, their value is only realized/actualized over a long time horizon, while at the same time that value is not generally affected by interest rates &#8230;&quot;,&quot;date&quot;:&quot;2023-02-01T04:28:59.601Z&quot;,&quot;like_count&quot;:1,&quot;comment_count&quot;:0,&quot;bylines&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:58613880,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;RV&quot;,&quot;previous_name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;photo_url&quot;:&quot;https://bucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9915ba3f-81df-41ef-9515-43401d856faf_481x468.png&quot;,&quot;bio&quot;:null,&quot;profile_set_up_at&quot;:&quot;2021-11-18T11:45:26.538Z&quot;,&quot;publicationUsers&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:503784,&quot;user_id&quot;:58613880,&quot;publication_id&quot;:572622,&quot;role&quot;:&quot;admin&quot;,&quot;public&quot;:true,&quot;is_primary&quot;:false,&quot;publication&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:572622,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;Lemon Cakes Investing&quot;,&quot;subdomain&quot;:&quot;lemoncakesinvesting&quot;,&quot;custom_domain&quot;:null,&quot;custom_domain_optional&quot;:false,&quot;hero_text&quot;:&quot;I&#8217;m nobody and I have nothing to sell. 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Buffett One thing that I think is sort of interesting about books is that, often, their value is only realized/actualized over a long time horizon, while at the same time that value is not generally affected by interest rates &#8230;</div><div class="embedded-post-cta-wrapper"><span class="embedded-post-cta">Read more</span></div><div class="embedded-post-meta">3 years ago &#183; 1 like &#183; RV</div></a></div><p>This is perhaps an error, in the sustained panic of uncertain times, of ignoring, forgetting, or mis-analyzing what characteristics of a business are <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_effect">Lindy</a> or perhaps illustrates the difficulty of analyzing and pricing-in the durability or value of the intellectual capital that Buffett brought to BRK; both of these concepts are explored to a certain degree in later chapters.</p><div class="twitter-embed" 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Michael Mauboussin is deleted for whatever reason.</figcaption></figure></div><blockquote><p><em>[M]any entrepreneurs focus only on short-term growth. They have an excuse: growth is easy to measure, but durability isn&#8217;t. Those who succumb to measurement mania obsess about weekly active user statistics, monthly revenue targets, and quarterly earnings reports. However, you can hit those numbers and still overlook deeper, harder-to-measure problems that threaten the durability of your business. &#8212;- Peter Thiel, &#8220;Zero To One&#8221;</em></p></blockquote><div class="preformatted-block" data-component-name="PreformattedTextBlockToDOM"><label class="hide-text" contenteditable="false">Text within this block will maintain its original spacing when published</label><pre class="text"></pre></div><p>Further related reading: </p><ul><li><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150714191334/http://www.frmocorp.com:80/_content/essays/Berkshire%20Hathaway,%20Part%20I%20October%202008.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20150714191334/http://www.frmocorp.com:80/_content/essays/Berkshire%20Hathaway,%20Part%20I%20October%202008.pdf</a> &#9733;</p></li></ul><h1>Poor price performance affords greater wealth accumulation&#8230; <em>iff</em> you&#8217;re running a permanent capital vehicle</h1><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;People who play it too safe take the greatest risks, did you know that? In the long haul, the intelligent risk takers developed the greatest security. [It] is the wise person who learns the importance of risk taking&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://youtu.be/VN_wheOoecA?t=554">Earl Nightingale</a></em></p></blockquote><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;When we brought in the most amount of our stock was in &#8216;74, &#8216;75, and so on. That was a very good time to be buying. That was the worst crunch in 50 years. We were very lucky to have cash on hand at that time. Most people, they don&#8217;t have tons of money to invest in the bottom of these booms. We&#8217;re all in on them. We&#8217;ve been in them for a long time. We just ride it out</em>.&#8221; &#8212;- <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/132Aul_OH0hNP3B00S5jcIEtgAnbdV1Cq/view">Charlie Munger</a> </p></blockquote><p>The following chapter of the book relating to Buffett is highly related to the previous in that it continues to explore how the severe market pessimism of the 1970s, that Berkshire was caught up in, created seemingly irrational discounts, but also looks at how the structure of Berkshire Hathaway &#8212;being a permanent capital vehicle rather than a proper fund with a fluctuating share count&#8212; allowed for Buffett to capture a larger proportional economic interest in the same growing business while it was being shunned by the market at large.</p><p>The relation back to Stahl&#8217;s own permanent capital vehicle FRMO should be fairly plain and I won&#8217;t belabor that point as it is already covered in the first post in this series on Ben Graham. However, I am currently working on writing some thoughts around a similar situation that exists today which parallels Buffett&#8217;s exploitation of market pessimism around a permanent capital vehicle he controlled &#8212;which is the topic of this section&#8212; which I will be finishing some time after this post.</p><p>In the corresponding essay, Stahl presents an interesting rationalization for why investors may have discounted Berkshire so heavily. BRK shares prices traded all the way down to a ~50% discount-to-book around 1974 to 1975. At the time, BRK had an earnings yielded<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-3" href="#footnote-3" target="_self">3</a> of just 5.5% relative to its <em>nominal</em> book vs the 8% interest on the 10yr UST at that same time<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-4" href="#footnote-4" target="_self">4</a>. The 50% discount applied by the market to BRK's BV in the 1970s makes sense from a &#8216;yield-on-book&#8217; POV wherein it could be argued that, by discounting the book value nearly 50%, it created a <em>real</em> earnings yield on the (discounted) book value of around 10%. This approximated the actual yield that was available from USTs as rates were raised by Burns and then Volcker to fight inflation during that decade (plus a few extra pps as an equity premium yield requirement). Of course, this also discounted BRK&#8217;s ability to continue to grow book value (which as we saw in the previous section was indeed happening during even the worst years for the broader market), and generate increased earning on those business holdings in the long run. Basically no one was interested in alternative long-duration assets which, to be honest, kinda makes sense given that the 10yr UST yield would go on to reach 15% by late 1981; it&#8217;s just that BRK would go on to beat this (and outlast the maturity terms) by returning a 30% CAGR from 1980 to 2000<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-5" href="#footnote-5" target="_self">5</a> (and a 19% CAGR from that same period up to today). </p><p>This is similar to discounting the par value of a X%-yielding bond to raise the yield such that it is commensurate to a newly issued (X% &lt;) Y%-yielding version of the bond when rates rise, in addition to some added risk premium on the older X%-yielding bond. </p><p>While I'm not sure that it would totally make sense to try to calculate this for FRMO using their nominal income statement reports given that accrual accounting records unrealized investment gains/losses as income<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-6" href="#footnote-6" target="_self">6</a>, from this perspective of trying to determine some kind of earnings yield on book, we can use FRMO's the LTM net change in cash (since 1. their revenue figures include unrealized gains/losses from investments and 2. their operating cashflows do not cover the various investing and financing activities) to see that the business currently trades at a 1.7% cashflow/TBV<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-7" href="#footnote-7" target="_self">7</a> as of my writing this vs the 4% market yield on the 10yr UST and effective Federal Funds rate of 4.5%<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-8" href="#footnote-8" target="_self">8</a> (and I think that FRMO's nominal book value is actually understated to it's actual value as well, bringing FRMO's yield even lower)... </p><p>********** <em>UPDATE 20230815: </em></p><p><em>Using the numbers from the recently published <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/10k/FRMO_Annual_Report_2023.pdf">2023</a> annual report (FRMO&#8217;s fiscal year ends in May), the cashflow-to-TBV yield is now 2.75%. FRMO would need to trade at a ~43% discount to TBV in order to have a cashflow yield on book comparable to the current EFFR of ~5%; my emoji statement below this update still stands.</em></p><p><em>There are certain adjustment I&#8217;m OK with that could be made, such as removing crypto assets from the TBV (since these are not intended by management to be USD-generating assets, but rather accumulated for their prospective value themselves) and using the <a href="https://www.cmegroup.com/markets/interest-rates/cme-fedwatch-tool.html">Fed rate futures</a> dot plots (averaging the median rate targets for the next 3yrs + longer run) to get a CFFO/(USD)TBV of 3% vs a longrun Fed aggregate rate of 3.97%, which closes the spread to a degree.</em> </p><p>**********</p><p>Not totally sure what to make of this at the moment; I recently listened to an NPR interview where they were talking to a wine taster who was rated wines online using strings of emojis rather then commentary<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-9" href="#footnote-9" target="_self">9</a> and the rating I&#8217;d give to FRMO&#8217;s below-FFR yield-on-book would be... &#128517;&#9986;&#65039;&#129488;. </p><p>For businesses other than investment vehicles and holdCos like FRMO, book value might not matter as much and if you wanted parity with a future of 8% short-term interest rates &#8212;and who knows, maybe we'll revisit those 70s-era rates by 2024 given how things have played out over the past year&#8212; you'd want to buy stocks with durable FCF and whose fair value you believed priced the stock at or below (1/0.08=)12.5x that FCF (an 8% FCF yield) &#8212;maybe make it an even 10x P/FCF as an equity risk premium vs USTs. </p><p>In any case, having a permanent capital structure allowed Buffett to accumulate a greater share of BRK's sustained/growing pie at a discount to NAV (vs a shrinking pie at a proportionally shrinking value as would have been the case with share <em>redemptions</em> at a mutual fund or ETF during this same period of market pessimism). Throughout the 1970s, the market generally traded at a Shiller P/E well below it&#8217;s long-term 15x average&#8230;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R4s7!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05e7a6c9-a899-4d19-b305-059f29c0f42d_864x486.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!R4s7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05e7a6c9-a899-4d19-b305-059f29c0f42d_864x486.png 424w, 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y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><a href="https://www.longtermtrends.net/market-cap-to-gdp-the-buffett-indicator/; You can alternatively play around with the data here: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=ZvPP">https://www.longtermtrends.net/market-cap-to-gdp-the-buffett-indicator/</a>; You can alternatively play around with the data here: <a href="https://www.longtermtrends.net/market-cap-to-gdp-the-buffett-indicator/; You can alternatively play around with the data here: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=ZvPP">https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=ZvPP</a></figcaption></figure></div><p>This particular broad-market valuation measurement was also mentioned in the recent <a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q4-2022-Commentary_FINAL.pdf">4Q2022 HK Commentary</a> &#8212;now in stark contrast to the levels it was at during Buffett's time in obscurity&#8212; where Steve Bregman notes that... </p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Much debate about whether the market is cheap enough to now be rewarding, or just fairly priced, or maybe not. [&#8230;]</em> <em>The comprehensive version of the P/E ratio of the S&amp;P 500 is to compare the market value of all publicly traded stocks to GDP. It dispenses with all the underlying judgments and complexities about whether and how to make adjustments for companies that might have negative earnings, what to do about noncash write-downs, etc., etc. <strong>It simply relates the market value that investors have jointly assigned to the entirety of public corporate earnings and/or book value and/or intangibles to the economy in which they operate. That valuation multiple remains at the highest level in 50 years, other than last year, of course</strong>.</em>&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>(This perhaps explains FRMO&#8217;s consistently large cash position</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-11" href="#footnote-11" target="_self">11</a><em>, though I wonder how expensive this index would look vs historical levels if the FAANG stocks &#8212;which HK has much bemoaned as dragging up the rest of the market and warping perspectives (and make up a large part of the Wilshire index)</em><a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-12" href="#footnote-12" target="_self">12</a><em>&#8212; were removed.</em>)</p><p>Had BRK been a mutual fund during this time of investor pessimism in the 70s, rather than the permanent capital vehicle that it was, there would be no NAV discount at all; the capital would simply flow out in real terms by way of redemptions as investors pulled their money out of &#8220;the Berkshire fund&#8221;, which would also have impacted Buffett's ability to continue to use the &#8220;fund&#8217;s&#8221; investment income to opportunistically buy back BRK stock at a NAV discount or invest in equities at valuations that (as can be seen above) were to be the lowest he&#8217;d see for the rest of his investing career &#8212;even up to the day that I&#8217;m writing this.</p><p>Also of note, real estate billionaire Sam Zell was also making hay during the market pessimism of the 1970s:<a class="footnote-anchor" data-component-name="FootnoteAnchorToDOM" id="footnote-anchor-13" href="#footnote-13" target="_self">13</a></p><blockquote><p><em>Following a market crash in 1973, Zell spent the next three years acquiring $3 billion in real estate assets, much of it for $1 down. He built the portfolio by going to lenders and offering to take future operating losses off their hands in return for equity. Zell was able to carry the properties long enough for them to return to &#8212; and exceed &#8211;prior valuations. &#8220;As it turns out, we made a fortune,&#8221; he said.</em></p></blockquote><p>&#8230; As well as investor John Templeton. Templeton (who was also featured in William Green&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="https://www.williamgreenwrites.com/richer-wiser-happier/">Richer, Wiser, Happier</a>&#8221;, which I recommend) is also mentioned in a 2021 <a href="https://horizonkinetics.com/app/uploads/Q1-2021-Review_FINAL.pdf">HK Commentary</a> where his disciplined, (thematically) concentrated, and contrarian style was shown to hold up against the market through the 1970s and beyond:</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1ths!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2ba92fd5-c616-45ef-908c-d137656612dd_343x705.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><div class="preformatted-block" data-component-name="PreformattedTextBlockToDOM"><label class="hide-text" contenteditable="false">Text within this block will maintain its original spacing when published</label><pre class="text"></pre></div><p>Further reading: </p><ul><li><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20150714191339/http://www.frmocorp.com:80/_content/essays/Berkshire%20Hathaway,%20Part%20II%20October%202008.pdf">https://web.archive.org/web/20150714191339/http://www.frmocorp.com:80/_content/essays/Berkshire%20Hathaway,%20Part%20II%20October%202008.pdf</a> &#9733;</p></li><li><p><a href="http://www.austinvaluecapital.com/resources.html">http://www.austinvaluecapital.com/resources.html</a>; contains a downloadable PDF compiling everything written by Buffett starting from 1957 to June 2021.</p></li></ul><p></p><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://lemoncakesinvesting.substack.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Lemon Cakes Investing! Leave a like if you found this useful and subscribe for free to receive new posts.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><p></p><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-1" href="#footnote-anchor-1" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">1</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://archive.nytimes.com/dealbook.nytimes.com/2008/09/24/warren-buffett-and-the-salomon-saga/">https://archive.nytimes.com/dealbook.nytimes.com/2008/09/24/warren-buffett-and-the-salomon-saga/</a></p><p><a href="https://theconservativeincomeinvestor.com/the-moment-warren-buffett-became-famous/">https://theconservativeincomeinvestor.com/the-moment-warren-buffett-became-famous/</a></p><p><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/news/moment-america-met-warren-buffett-115906138.html">https://finance.yahoo.com/news/moment-america-met-warren-buffett-115906138.html</a></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salomon_Brothers#1990s_treasury_bonds_crisis">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salomon_Brothers#1990s_treasury_bonds_crisis</a></p><div id="youtube2-ORuTUATFd-E" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;ORuTUATFd-E&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ORuTUATFd-E?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" 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indirectly at that time.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-3" href="#footnote-anchor-3" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">3</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The essay does not actually specify earnings vs, say, FCF or some other metric, but I assume it&#8217;s earnings here.</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-4" href="#footnote-anchor-4" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">4</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/ERP-2012/pdf/ERP-2012-table73.pdf">https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/ERP-2012/pdf/ERP-2012-table73.pdf</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-5" href="#footnote-anchor-5" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">5</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Using the BRK.A marketcap data here: <a href="https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/BRK.A/berkshire-hathaway/stock-price-history">https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/BRK.A/berkshire-hathaway/stock-price-history</a></p><p>($56400MM&#247;$270MM)^(1&#247;(2000&#8722;1980))&#8722;1 = 0.3062</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-6" href="#footnote-anchor-6" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">6</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>The bulk of FRMO&#8217;s &#8220;earnings&#8221; or &#8220;net income&#8221; is actually &#8220;unrealized gains in equity securities&#8221; and FRMO&#8217;s main assets are its securities holdings, so the better description would be to call the LTM NI/TBV figure something like &#8216;net annual additional equity yield on existing equity.&#8217; With this in mind, FRMO has a 20% LTM NI/TBV.</p><p>We could also just take the &#8220;fees&#8221; (made up of HK advisory fees and the HK revenue stream ownership) and &#8220;dividends and interest income&#8221; from the <a href="https://www.frmocorp.com/_content/10k/FRMO_Annual_Report_2022.pdf">2022 income statement</a>, minus opex, and divide by TBV (&#8220;attributable to shareholders&#8221; in the balance sheet) and get a 2.7% yield on book &#8212;slightly higher than the FCF/TBV number.</p><p><a href="https://www.wallstreetmojo.com/unrealized-gains-losses/#h-unrealized-gains-and-losses-accounting">https://www.wallstreetmojo.com/unrealized-gains-losses/#h-unrealized-gains-and-losses-accounting</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-7" href="#footnote-anchor-7" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">7</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>$(&#8722;0.46MM + 2.73MM + 0.08MM + 0.88MM) / $189.32MM</p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-8" href="#footnote-anchor-8" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">8</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=198S0">https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=198S0</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-9" href="#footnote-anchor-9" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">9</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.npr.org/2022/12/10/1142099376/choosing-the-right-beverage-this-holiday-season">https://www.npr.org/2022/12/10/1142099376/choosing-the-right-beverage-this-holiday-season</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-10" href="#footnote-anchor-10" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">10</a><div class="footnote-content"><p><a href="https://www.currentmarketvaluation.com/models/buffett-indicator.php">https://www.currentmarketvaluation.com/models/buffett-indicator.php</a></p><p></p></div></div><div class="footnote" data-component-name="FootnoteToDOM"><a id="footnote-11" href="#footnote-anchor-11" class="footnote-number" contenteditable="false" target="_self">11</a><div class="footnote-content"><p>Though I&#8217;d also note that mid/smallcap stocks are currently trading around the cheapest valuations they&#8217;ve been at since the 2020 March COVID shock and the 2008 GCF.</p><p><a href="https://www.morningstar.com/articles/1128280/small-cap-stocks-are-really-cheap">https://www.morningstar.com/articles/1128280/small-cap-stocks-are-really-cheap</a> </p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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